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Title: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: CM-Rajiv on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:58:56

More info @ CES :)
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 16 December 2013, 12:00:09
So CM's do backlight like ducky!

PS: it's cool and all but give us the dope on the TOPRE board!!!
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 16 December 2013, 12:03:35
So CM's do backlight like ducky!

PS: it's cool and all but give us the dope on the TOPRE board!!!

Maybe it is the Topre board? :o  (lol doubt it tho)

A Ducky Shine style CM keyboard will be nice. Awaiting more info.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 December 2013, 12:07:08
Ooo it's so flashy. I like that touch lighting a lot.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 December 2013, 12:40:38
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Nonetheless, CM is a great and responsible company..

I only wish they'd be more daring..(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/014.gif)
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Grendel on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:25:51
I would be interested if the LED PWM frequency is in the 8kHz range.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:32:47
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Why do you still post here?
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:42:02
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Why do you still post here?

Because he's a contributing member of geekhack as much as any other.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: osi on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:45:01
Sneak us that suggested MSRP so we can all get our wallets ready :D
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:55:30
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Why do you still post here?

Because he's a contributing member of geekhack as much as any other.

Not really.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 15:11:13
So CM's do backlight like ducky!

PS: it's cool and all but give us the dope on the TOPRE board!!!

A Trigger with more lighting modes?

Sweet :)

Competition is good!

But does make it more difficult to recommend only one or two keyboards to those seeking their first mech.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 December 2013, 15:58:14
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Why do you still post here?

Because he's a contributing member of geekhack as much as any other.

Not really.

How so?
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:26:37
STOP WITH THE ATTACKS PLEASE


On topic: That touch lighting mode is really cool.

Is the video muted so that we don't know what switch it uses?
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:26:40
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Why do you still post here?

Because he's a contributing member of geekhack as much as any other.

Not really.

How so?


All he does is troll.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: CM-Rajiv on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:31:03
Sorry tp4tissue but you seem to not like ANYTHING we do.

I'd like to see what you are looking for, because these products are what we hear requested from the communities we are engaged in.
We'll continue to educate the masses on mechanicals and the benefits of our products for keyboard science. :)
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:33:28
Sorry tp4tissue but you seem to not like ANYTHING we do.

I'd like to see what you are looking for, because these products are what we hear requested from the communities we are engaged in.
We'll continue to educate the masses on mechanicals and the benefits of our products for keyboard science. :)

You should try selling an ErgoDox to see how he reacts :))
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: 1pq on Mon, 16 December 2013, 17:57:04
Sorry tp4tissue but you seem to not like ANYTHING we do.

I'd like to see what you are looking for, because these products are what we hear requested from the communities we are engaged in.
We'll continue to educate the masses on mechanicals and the benefits of our products for keyboard science. :)

You should try selling an ErgoDox to see how he reacts :))

lol, right?

I have to say, though, I'd much rather see a QFR with clears than a QFR with gimmicky lighting. I'm not really sure how the lighting enhances the experience at all. Personally, I'd never use it. A QFR with clears though...ooh baby
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 December 2013, 18:00:14
Sorry tp4tissue but you seem to not like ANYTHING we do.

I'd like to see what you are looking for, because these products are what we hear requested from the communities we are engaged in.
We'll continue to educate the masses on mechanicals and the benefits of our products for keyboard science. :)

You should try selling an ErgoDox to see how he reacts :))

(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/e/x/excitedblushplz.gif?1)
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: CM-Rajiv on Mon, 16 December 2013, 18:30:46
Sorry tp4tissue but you seem to not like ANYTHING we do.

I'd like to see what you are looking for, because these products are what we hear requested from the communities we are engaged in.
We'll continue to educate the masses on mechanicals and the benefits of our products for keyboard science. :)

You should try selling an ErgoDox to see how he reacts :))

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/e/x/excitedblushplz.gif?1)


That lighting has received a lot of attention from end users who typically don't look at mechanical keyboards as 'worth the purchase' so sometimes adding in features like this really brings the attention we need to promote keyboard science.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Grendel on Mon, 16 December 2013, 19:11:35
Well, than at least please get the lighting right! Nothing is more annoying than trying to do keyboard work in a medium-low brightness environment and seeing the LEDs flicker! Deck (TG3) and Xarmor (or whoever is behind them, probably iOne) made boards are the only ones I've come along that didn't flicker -- reason: they didn't use PWM but current limiting for brightness control. Every more modern board I've come across uses PWM in the sub 1kHz range, Logitech, Corsair, Ducky all flicker (1st hand experience.) It would be easy to fix by increasing the PWM period to 8kHz+, I have done it on that little CMS Demo board mod and it works great.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: sth on Mon, 16 December 2013, 19:13:48
Lame...  we've seen it all before...

They just went to China, and said, hey let's buy some of these, put a logo on it, and frip it for USD$..

and all the n00bs and kiddies flock...

Business as usual... no keyboard science, all gimmick...

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Why do you still post here?

he's right about cm though...
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: bueller on Mon, 16 December 2013, 19:16:55
Sorry tp4tissue but you seem to not like ANYTHING we do.

I'd like to see what you are looking for, because these products are what we hear requested from the communities we are engaged in.
We'll continue to educate the masses on mechanicals and the benefits of our products for keyboard science. :)

You should try selling an ErgoDox to see how he reacts :))

lol, right?

I have to say, though, I'd much rather see a QFR with clears than a QFR with gimmicky lighting. I'm not really sure how the lighting enhances the experience at all. Personally, I'd never use it. A QFR with clears though...ooh baby

I don't think we'll be seeing anything new with clears for quite a while, WASD have said they can't get the switches for more runs of the CODE w/clears.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 16 December 2013, 19:42:31
That lighting has received a lot of attention from end users who typically don't look at mechanical keyboards as 'worth the purchase' so sometimes adding in features like this really brings the attention we need to promote keyboard science.

Reminds me of a strategy from deep sea predators. Not exactly new, but effective.  ;D

(http://www.akinvong.com/av/3d/2007/Anger/AnglerLevel2Map07_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Azteca on Mon, 16 December 2013, 19:59:41
Able to setup only particular keys to light up when playing certain games is cool; better if you can setup several different games; better if you can have different colors any way you want per game.

Otherwise, I prefer to light all the keys before I hit them so I can see what I'm pressing. Lighting them after I hit them is not useful. The video guy should try the same with the room's light off and I bet he will not be able to hit the keys he wants but only until after he has hit all the surrounding keys.

In regard to mechanical versus rubber, mechanical are way better once you get accustomed. As keyboards are usually used 8 hours a day, if the price difference is <$100, go for quality and durability (alas, never rubber domes).
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 21:23:05
It's basically a ducky board
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 December 2013, 21:24:25
we don't want these lights CM, we want topre MX!

But seriously, if you can make a sub 200 topre mx with LEDs, that would be most ideal.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 16 December 2013, 21:25:18
Make a Topre keyboard.  All the cool kids are doing it.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 December 2013, 21:26:40
if cm makes the topre ergodox with fancy leds and gmk caps, no one will ever need another board.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: eddie on Mon, 16 December 2013, 23:01:13
Looks like a ducky keyboard with the backlights. :p
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 23:33:55
Looks like a ducky keyboard with the backlights. :p

Almost all ducky keyboards have lights
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tbc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 23:37:31
I would go bat**** crazy over a cm storm ergodox with clears and shine 3 esque lighting modes
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 23:46:12
I would go bat**** crazy over a cm storm ergodox with clears and shine 3 esque lighting modes

Ewwww ergodox
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: insomniak on Mon, 16 December 2013, 23:58:23
I'm not the biggest fan of CM fonts on their keyboards but I do love the lighting options.

Just got myself a Ducky Shine 3 TKL with white LED's and if this is cheaper and sane quality, then I just might regret my purchase
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 December 2013, 00:08:57
I would go bat**** crazy over a cm storm ergodox with clears and shine 3 esque lighting modes

back lighting an egdx is pointless.. because no one will ever agree on the letter arrangements.

And because the keys around the egdx is palm-able, there's no need for labels, because avid users could easily find all the keys without looking.

The same is not true on the rectangular board, because the horizontal length requires at least 1 jump (hand raise) for the 2-3 columns on the right side central block..

So with the regular rectangular boards.. you HAVE to look  down some times, because if you fault on a jump, the recovery cost is huge.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 17 December 2013, 00:12:27
I would go bat**** crazy over a cm storm ergodox with clears and shine 3 esque lighting modes

back lighting an egdx is pointless.. because no one will ever agree on the letter arrangements.

And because the keys around the egdx is palm-able, there's no need for labels, because avid users could easily find all the keys without looking.

The same is not true on the rectangular board, because the horizontal length requires at least 1 jump (hand raise) for the 2-3 columns on the right side central block..

So with the regular rectangular boards.. you HAVE to look  down some times, because if you fault on a jump, the recovery cost is huge.

i just want for fancy lights
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tbc on Tue, 17 December 2013, 00:12:55
What does lighting have to do work the letter layout?

Anyone can just put on their backlit alphas in qwerty.


Also, side glow and under glow.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 December 2013, 00:42:28
What does lighting have to do work the letter layout?

Anyone can just put on their backlit alphas in qwerty.


Also, side glow and under glow.

LOL n00bin' it up...

On the Egdx layouts are customized, even qwerty most often get changed up.


most layouts are just there out of tradition, and because most boards are not fully programmable, people stick with it..

There are so many little tweaks that you can do, which make it much more easy to use, and eliminating jumps are great because it greatly increases accuracy.



Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:00:09
What does lighting have to do work the letter layout?

Anyone can just put on their backlit alphas in qwerty.


Also, side glow and under glow.

LOL n00bin' it up...

On the Egdx layouts are customized, even qwerty most often get changed up.


most layouts are just there out of tradition, and because most boards are not fully programmable, people stick with it..

There are so many little tweaks that you can do, which make it much more easy to use, and eliminating jumps are great because it greatly increases accuracy.

I bet you type on a rubber dome
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:16:13
What does lighting have to do work the letter layout?

Anyone can just put on their backlit alphas in qwerty.


Also, side glow and under glow.

LOL n00bin' it up...

On the Egdx layouts are customized, even qwerty most often get changed up.


most layouts are just there out of tradition, and because most boards are not fully programmable, people stick with it..

There are so many little tweaks that you can do, which make it much more easy to use, and eliminating jumps are great because it greatly increases accuracy.

I bet you type on a rubber dome

Oh CS, you have not the slightest idea of which you speak.
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: dadgh on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:34:10
If it's less then $100 then it's awesome
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:44:13
Why does CM always has to copy something and sell it cheaper?













I love it!
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 01:57:37
Why does CM always has to copy something and sell it cheaper?













I love it!

Its terrible. Might as well buy a ducky board
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 December 2013, 03:58:03
What does lighting have to do work the letter layout?

Anyone can just put on their backlit alphas in qwerty.


Also, side glow and under glow.

LOL n00bin' it up...

On the Egdx layouts are customized, even qwerty most often get changed up.


most layouts are just there out of tradition, and because most boards are not fully programmable, people stick with it..

There are so many little tweaks that you can do, which make it much more easy to use, and eliminating jumps are great because it greatly increases accuracy.





Are there backlit ErgoDox?
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 17 December 2013, 10:39:59
this is great! thanks for the teaser!
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 17 December 2013, 10:45:06
What does lighting have to do work the letter layout?

Anyone can just put on their backlit alphas in qwerty.


Also, side glow and under glow.

LOL n00bin' it up...

On the Egdx layouts are customized, even qwerty most often get changed up.


most layouts are just there out of tradition, and because most boards are not fully programmable, people stick with it..

There are so many little tweaks that you can do, which make it much more easy to use, and eliminating jumps are great because it greatly increases accuracy.





Are there backlit ErgoDox?

I think a few DIY'ers are working on their own versions...
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: CM-Rajiv on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:14:57
I would go bat**** crazy over a cm storm ergodox with clears and shine 3 esque lighting modes

back lighting an egdx is pointless.. because no one will ever agree on the letter arrangements.

And because the keys around the egdx is palm-able, there's no need for labels, because avid users could easily find all the keys without looking.

The same is not true on the rectangular board, because the horizontal length requires at least 1 jump (hand raise) for the 2-3 columns on the right side central block..

So with the regular rectangular boards.. you HAVE to look  down some times, because if you fault on a jump, the recovery cost is huge.

Working on changing the fonts... it's a struggle to get people on board when they sell out like crazy :/
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 19 December 2013, 01:07:01
Thanks Coolermaster/CMStorm for this wonderful preview!
Title: Re: Preview of upcoming Cooler Master TKL Mechanical Keyboard
Post by: tbc on Thu, 19 December 2013, 01:11:09
don't listen to these fools about changing the font.  they would never keep the stock caps in any case.  you all know i'm right :P