have you looked at autohotkey? it'll give you all the hotkeys you could ever want, even on a regular 104 key board.
Any idea if I could get a hold of one of those in the U.S.?
Ortek MCK-142Pro (http://www.neotec.co.jp/syouhin/key/ortek/mck142/mck142.html)
Not sure about switches. fake alps ( strong man type ) most likely.
Mine has real Alps. Has the Alps logo on the switch and they mention the name Alps in the manual (and "from Japan").
Also, it has double injection caps. Mine seems to be old though, the driver came on a 5 1/4" floppy. :)
There are plenty of weird and wonderful keyboards out there that have weird and wonderful connections to match. For instance, check out this IBM Model F P/N 1387033 (http://search.ebay.com/200255855151) [no affiliation with seller]. It's the earlier IBM 122 housing, Model F flavour, without the number pad. But it's made for the IBM 3290 , a mid-eighties 19" orange plasma split-screen four session 3270 terminal(!), not the PC/AT...
Very nice.Show Image(http://www.recycledgoods.com/Images/s_p_7720_1.jpg)
I want to use a model F p/n 6110344. I prefer clicky feel and sound of model F. But it refuses to be connected to Windows PC.
Show Image(http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/6110344/front_1v.jpg)
I always meant to send you an e-mail years ago when I was reading Still Crazy in babelfish English, or when I was becoming more and more amazed at what you've written about and photographed at little bit of keyboards, or I could have said something to you at comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Usenet.
With the blue text on the keycaps for PC commands, that's the keyboard for the IBM 5271 3270 PC, isn't it? .....
I haven't imagine that a non-Japanese reader would ever read my still crazy page.
So, you've been reading comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware. I go there once a week but I don't have a good working ps/2 right now so I can't follow on-going topics there. I'd like to reconfigure my macho 9595s and fire'em up, and set up TokenRing LAN someday.
I really don't know what the keyboard is. I'm not familiar with terminals such as 3270, 5250 and so on.
Mine has an AT DIN-ish plug but not the one shown in the pic of ISA control card.
Keyboard Keyboard
Language Part No.
Danish 1386543
English UK 1445095
English US 6110344
French 1385096
German 1445099
Italian 1445098
Norwegian 1386545
Spanish 1445097
Swedish/Finnish 1386544
Swiss (French) 1386853
Swiss (German) 1386854
Keyboard Keyboard
Country Part No.
Danish 1389038
English UK 1385744
English US 1351768
French 1385747
German 1385745
Italian 1385746
Norwegian 1389040
Spanish 1385748
Swedish/Finnish 1389039
Swiss (French) 1389036
Swiss (German) 1389037
Lowpoly once explained kbkbale org, but.... it's hard for me to understand. It seems to be a looooong road until I can have letters on my screen with the gigantic board.
Thanks for your info about IBM terminals.
Question for you dw, as you seem to be the authority on terminals. According to this site (http://www.clickykeyboard.com/buyersguide.htm), the Model M terminal keyboards are totally incompatible with modern PCs. Is the 1397000 a special case? When was it produced?
Hey, no worries. Glad people are getting more out of it. I've already got some great ideas from everyone's input.
Right now I'm leaning towards getting the X-keys 52 key pad and something like a Filco tenkeyless. Seems like the combo (with the X-keys pad to the left of the keyboard) would take up about the same amount of desk real estate as a terminal style board, but I wouldn't be wasting any of it with the numpad that I don't often use. Function keys to the left of the keyboard are far more valuable to me.
Question for you dw, as you seem to be the authority on terminals.
According to this site (http://www.clickykeyboard.com/buyersguide.htm), the Model M terminal keyboards are totally incompatible with modern PCs. Is the 1397000 a special case? When was it produced?
I think one terminal keyboard on clickykeyboards was supposed to work on ps/2 and it was the German version. They appear regularly here on ebay.de and many seem to work on a modern PC.
Host Connected Keyboard
Belgium 1397501
Canadian French 1396900
Cyrillic 1397515
French 1397506
German/Austrian 1397500
Italian 1397507
LA Spanish 1396901
Swiss French 1397511
Swiss German 1397512
English (U.K.) 1397513
English (U.S.) 1396400
Austrian German 1396902
Belgium 1396903
Cyrillic 1396916
Danish 1396904
Dutch 1396905
French 1396990
Greece 1396917
Iceland 1396919
Italian 1396908
Norway 1396909
Portugal 1396910
Spain 1396911
Sweden/Finland 1396906
Swiss/French 1396912
Swiss/German 1396913
Turkey 1396921
Yugoslavia 1396920
UK 1396914
US (EMEA only) 1397025
EDIT:
snipped picture of IBM part number picture of 1387033 (http://search.ebay.com/200255855151)
Just wanted to say that this layout is awesome. Very ideal for me.
You should be able to swap controllers, assuming that the terminal space saver uses the same controller as the full size one.
It's a 1397024.Computer Computer (http://www.com-com.co.uk/IBM/parts/1397024.ihtml) believe in it, at least. It doesn't show up in announcement letters or the EPRM, but then neither do so many part numbers... Very probably an alternate or superceded P/N for 1397025, the US Eng version in the EMEA.
a multi-media keyHeh, a speaker-generated click/beep is a bit of a stretch for the definition... Earlier terminals had a solenoid powered clicker in the keyboard (3178s for example); later there was a speaker either in the keyboard or the terminal base; my 3180 keyboards have click +/- and on/off keys. This is what is being emulated.
P.S. This one is plug and play. I used a PS/2 to USB adapter, plugged it into a Windows box, and it uses the blue over the black characters....This is the point of terminal emulator keyboards. To work just as regular keyboard would and so with standard drivers, while replicating the physical experience and offering the same access to commands of a terminal.
I'm thinking about a Unicomp Terminal Emulator board in black with black blank keys and a PS/2 Connector... $99+25 for a set of black blanks... Not a bad deal for a new BS board.Yeah, very interesting... I know I will end up talking to Unicomp at some point...
Has anyone ever peeled up the keys on one of these? Can you swap out the ISO enter, backslash, and left shift with ANSI-layout ones from a spare M? That's half the reason I don't consider one.Probably, if you drill all the rivets out and swap a few springs' locations.
And what of the editing block? The labels don't correspond with the standard layout.
Probably, if you drill all the rivets out and swap a few springs' locations.
Has anyone ever peeled up the keys on one of these? Can you swap out the ISO enter, backslash, and left shift with ANSI-layout ones from a spare M? That's half the reason I don't consider one.
And what of the editing block? The labels don't correspond with the standard layout.
IBM PC3270 #1393656 (old version; top left keycap is "Help")
IBM PC3270 #1397000 (new version; top left keycap is "Attn")
In conclusion, I don't have one.
But...having the right programming equipment and a code dump from a host-connect board to work with...and the programming skills to tweak the code to work... that's the problem....my knowledge is such that I could not even begin to start...but I do see that is is possible...and potentially very flexible.
In this case, I don't think this is possible because the 1397003 is a Model M and the 1387033 is a Model F, which presumably has the controller attached to the same PCB as the key contacts,