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Title: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:29:40: You know that beige on really old abs plastic beige computers..

What would you guys call that...

I am looking to color match it..

This color

but even worse..

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Macintosh_128k_transparency.png/220px-Macintosh_128k_transparency.png)
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:33:37: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:29:40
You know that beige on really old abs plastic beige computers..

What would you guys call that...

I am looking to color match it..

This color

but even worse..

Show Image
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Macintosh_128k_transparency.png/220px-Macintosh_128k_transparency.png)

Wouldn't that colour be called Half-Eaten Apple....? Or Granny Morgue or even Couscous Deluxe.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:35:09: They don't just turn that color from being beige, it's smoke damage from cigarets.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:41:33: Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:35:09
They don't just turn that color from being beige, it's smoke damage from cigarets.

yea.. that's the color i'm looking for.. with the abuse
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:43:10: http://www.colorcodehex.com/d6c183/ (http://www.colorcodehex.com/d6c183/)
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:47:24: Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:35:09
They don't just turn that color from being beige, it's smoke damage from cigarets.

It's usually the UV oxidization of bromine fireproofing added to ABS plastic that turns it the yellowish brown color.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:47:46: Quote from: PointyFox on Sun, 29 December 2013, 01:43:10
http://www.colorcodehex.com/d6c183/ (http://www.colorcodehex.com/d6c183/)

Hmmmm.. close.. but it doesn't say... I'm old, and my teeth don't work... I'm looking for the My teeth don't work color...
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:22:40: soak a bunch of tobacco in bromine and iodine, strain it out them use the wash on the item... then seal it in a box with UV lamps for a few months!
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 29 December 2013, 17:11:25: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:22:40
soak a bunch of tobacco in bromine and iodine, strain it out them use the wash on the item... then seal it in a box with UV lamps for a few months!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I like this idea of using real tobacco coloring.. Though the surface is aluminum so the UV won't do anything, and if I do that to the paint, it'll probably harden and chip.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:06:54: Oh with metal? Maybe some 'bisque' appliance enamel... like on 1980's stoves.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31brKMBl6uL.jpg)

I used some of that but in gloss white for my custom PC case. It have a very very nice finish.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:20:49: I had been looking for a few months for a nice beige for my keyboard with beige/grey caps ... and then I found that I already had the right can all the time: Duplicolor beige primer. I started painting with it today, actually.

I have also got Plasti-cote Satin Super "Sand" that is a bit darker and more yellowish. If I used that, it would really look like it was discoloured in the sun.
It is really hard to accurately reproduce colours online without calibrating equipment and such, so I don't think that posting pictures would do any good.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: ideus on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:51:38: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:06:54
Oh with metal? Maybe some 'bisque' appliance enamel... like on 1980's stoves.
Show Image
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31brKMBl6uL.jpg)

I used some of that but in gloss white for my custom PC case. It have a very very nice finish.

Does this work on ABS or PBT? I want to paint a couple of spacebars.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 21:54:58: NO... it will literally MELT ABS. Vinyl dye is better for plastics, similar shade is available. Vinyl dye also holds up way better to wear than paint. I used it on my MX Revolution which I last did like 3 years ago and it's still like perfect after all the near constant contact.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:41:20: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 21:54:58
Vinyl dye is better for plastics, similar shade is available. Vinyl dye also holds up way better to wear than paint. I used it on my MX Revolution which I last did like 3 years ago and it's still like perfect after all the near constant contact.

That's interesting--I shall try it when it gets warm again. Which variety did you use? DupliColor?
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: ideus on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:48:42: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 21:54:58
NO... it will literally MELT ABS. Vinyl dye is better for plastics, similar shade is available. Vinyl dye also holds up way better to wear than paint. I used it on my MX Revolution which I last did like 3 years ago and it's still like perfect after all the near constant contact.

Alright, thank you for the tip.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:56:08: VHT penetrating I think is better, Duplicolor is also ok.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:00:51: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:56:08
VHT penetrating I think is better, Duplicolor is also ok.

Thanks--I think VHT vinyl dye is sold in a nearby auto shop. (Or maybe that's engine enamel, and they sell DupliColor vinyl dye... Either way I know what to look for now).
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:24:38: Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:00:51
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:56:08
VHT penetrating I think is better, Duplicolor is also ok.

Thanks--I think VHT vinyl dye is sold in a nearby auto shop. (Or maybe that's engine enamel, and they sell DupliColor vinyl dye... Either way I know what to look for now).

I bought mine off Amazon.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 30 December 2013, 09:49:07: Quote from: ideus on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:51:38
Does this work on ABS or PBT? I want to paint a couple of spacebars.
You mean you want a yellow-beige Space Bar? ... well, that's the first time I have heard that.

Who knows.. maybe it will catch on. :))
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 December 2013, 10:03:23: Quote from: Findecanor on Mon, 30 December 2013, 09:49:07
Quote from: ideus on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:51:38
Does this work on ABS or PBT? I want to paint a couple of spacebars.
You mean you want a yellow-beige Space Bar? ... well, that's the first time I have heard that.

Who knows.. maybe it will catch on. :))

The space bar is for a FC660M that has stems 85 mm apart, instead of the regular 100 mm posts. I may mod one gluing two stems but I do not like the feeling of a moded one, thus I prefer to paint the original I have in white.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:15:43: Take apart Leopold and fix the plate to have standard stabilizer spacing, it will never be problem again to have match spacebar :D I'm sure some of lasercutter could take care of it no problem.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:28:45: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:15:43
Take apart Leopold and fix the plate to have standard stabilizer spacing, it will never be problem again to have match spacebar :D I'm sure some of lasercutter could take care of it no problem.

This is a really good idea. I'm gonna try it.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:47:44: Once you do it, you should send picture to Leopold.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 December 2013, 13:12:50: So the concept is.. I spray on some yellow type beige... THEN.... a clear coat that's tinted brown..

I'm not sure how I'm gonna get that second coat..
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 December 2013, 13:18:50: Step 1: Get a box
Step 2: A few coats of lighter beige to match the original, but a bit darker/dirtier shade.
Step 3: Spot-spray some even darker beige/taupe from some direction (from some distance, so it does't look like a big circle of paint, but a quick light directional sweep) to get the uneven look. Basically you want to mist the darker color on very finely.
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 December 2013, 13:22:58: Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 December 2013, 13:18:50
Step 1: Get a box
Step 2: A few coats of lighter beige to match the original, but a bit darker/dirtier shade.
Step 3: Spot-spray some even darker beige/taupe from some direction (from some distance, so it does't look like a big circle of paint, but a quick light directional sweep) to get the uneven look. Basically you want to mist the darker color on very finely.

wouldn't I just get pokadotted spots like this?
Title: Re: That really old worn discolored beige..
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 December 2013, 13:26:06: Not it you follow step 3 and if you don't get a faulty/cheap spray that sprays in droplets instead of a fine mist. Some nozzles are bad and spray like that, so always test on scrap cardboard first and begin spraying away from your surface.