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Title: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Fri, 03 January 2014, 17:05:03
What are you thoughts on the new KitKat 4.4 Android OS? I'm really looking forward to the update, some nice looking UI changes and the texting looks nicer. From what I've been reading, it looks like it might get pushed out from carriers later this month?
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 January 2014, 17:14:24
I'm always 1 behind...

I am afraid of change..
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 03 January 2014, 17:17:11
I've been rocking 4.4.2 on my moto g for a while now.

The OS is a lot more polished than my galaxy nexus which is running 4.2, and a lot faster but specs probably come into play there.

The new dialer and translucent topbar are my favorite parts of the update.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 17:35:04
Running well on my N4. I like the colour theme a lot. White~beige > that blue for the top bar. :D
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: osi on Fri, 03 January 2014, 17:40:01
4.4.2 on my nexus 7 for a while. Seems snappier--could be placebo. I'm happy with it
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Malphas on Fri, 03 January 2014, 17:41:36
I've had it for a while on a Nexus 4. Nothing that exciting. The photo sphere thing came in handy (only just noticed it recently, and assuming it was introduced with Kit Kat).
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Stevenator21 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 19:53:55
One thing I do not like is the new Toast look. I love immersive mode, still need to add itinto my app, haven't gotten around to it.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 05 January 2014, 02:16:05
One thing I do not like is the new Toast look. I love immersive mode, still need to add itinto my app, haven't gotten around to it.

the apps are holding me back.. I got too many achem... unupdatable apps.. (http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-25.gif)
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 05 January 2014, 02:21:37
Any of y'all gone into developer mode and enabled the ART runtime instead of Dalvik. It did wonders for my battery life on both Nexus 5 and Nexus 4.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 02:30:49
4.4.2 is great  :thumb:
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 05 January 2014, 05:28:34
Any of y'all gone into developer mode and enabled the ART runtime instead of Dalvik. It did wonders for my battery life on both Nexus 5 and Nexus 4.

could you clarify this? what does it do...
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: oscillik on Sun, 05 January 2014, 06:45:56
I've had it for a while on a Nexus 4. Nothing that exciting. The photo sphere thing came in handy (only just noticed it recently, and assuming it was introduced with Kit Kat).

Photosphere was introduced in Jelly Bean, it was a launch feature of the Nexus 4.

Any of y'all gone into developer mode and enabled the ART runtime instead of Dalvik. It did wonders for my battery life on both Nexus 5 and Nexus 4.

could you clarify this? what does it do...


Dalvik runtime is a JIT runtime, compiling the program as you run it. ART runtime is precompiled (takes forever to compile upon first boot after changing the runtime, or after an OS update) but it's worth it for the savings in battery life, and the slight (but noticable) speed increase that occurs. There are some compatibility issues though, specifically with WhatsApp and some games. I've not come across any compatibility issues, since I don't use WhatsApp and rarely use my phone for games.

Definitely worth using, especially for the speed increase it gives when switching between apps.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: foxer on Sun, 05 January 2014, 06:49:08
I want it on my Note 3. :(
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Malphas on Sun, 05 January 2014, 13:13:55
I've had it for a while on a Nexus 4. Nothing that exciting. The photo sphere thing came in handy (only just noticed it recently, and assuming it was introduced with Kit Kat).

Photosphere was introduced in Jelly Bean, it was a launch feature of the Nexus 4.

Then I didn't notice anything significant with KitKat whatsoever. I'm going to go and switch runtimes though after reading the comments here.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: dante on Sun, 05 January 2014, 13:22:24
I'm always 1 behind...

I am afraid of change..

Fear not.  I'm still sporting a flip cell-phone.

I NEED MUH BUTTONS!
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: iri on Sun, 05 January 2014, 13:33:16
I've had it for a while on a Nexus 4. Nothing that exciting. The photo sphere thing came in handy (only just noticed it recently, and assuming it was introduced with Kit Kat).

Photosphere was introduced in Jelly Bean, it was a launch feature of the Nexus 4.

Then I didn't notice anything significant with KitKat whatsoever
AOT compilation.
i can't believe they finally made it.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:56:56
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 January 2014, 18:14:00
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 07 January 2014, 18:22:33
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)


Nexus 5 camera is as crap as the Nexus 4 camera. Peak android experience my eye.

I've not had a good Android phone since the Nexus One
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 January 2014, 18:26:44
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)


Nexus 5 camera is as crap as the Nexus 4 camera. Peak android experience my eye.

I've not had a good Android phone since the Nexus One

l33t android users don't take pictures...  that's only there for the n00bs...
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 07 January 2014, 18:30:18
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)


Nexus 5 camera is as crap as the Nexus 4 camera. Peak android experience my eye.

I've not had a good Android phone since the Nexus One

l33t android users don't take pictures...  that's only there for the n00bs...

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/Disgusted-Lucille-Eyeroll-Animated-gif-arrested-development-9465744-256-141.gif)
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Tue, 07 January 2014, 20:12:51
All smartphone cameras are crap tier anyways.
4.4.2 did make some camera improvements though.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 07 January 2014, 20:16:19
All smartphone cameras are crap tier anyways.
4.4.2 did make some camera improvements though.

That would be fine except the iPhone camera is leagues ahead of every other smartphone and some budget point and shoots. If they we're all bad that'd be one thing but use the camera on an iPhone 5(s/c) and tell me it's in the same tier as even the best Android cameras.

Smartphone cameras aren't about superb quality they're about having a camera at the ready. Android cameras fail at this utterly.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Tue, 07 January 2014, 20:34:31
All smartphone cameras are crap tier anyways.
4.4.2 did make some camera improvements though.

That would be fine except the iPhone camera is leagues ahead of every other smartphone and some budget point and shoots. If they we're all bad that'd be one thing but use the camera on an iPhone 5(s/c) and tell me it's in the same tier as even the best Android cameras.

Smartphone cameras aren't about superb quality they're about having a camera at the ready. Android cameras fail at this utterly.

I think I know what you mean. The iPhone's "software stabilizer" and auto focus is pretty good. Android's stock camera is terrible in that department.
4.2.2 significantly addressed that and I hope they make more improvements.

Pictures that are taken on the iPhone do look better when you view them through the iPhone screen.
Once you actually export the images and look at them side by side with shots taken from comparative androids, there's practically very little difference though.

Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:18:57
All smartphone cameras are crap tier anyways.
4.4.2 did make some camera improvements though.

That would be fine except the iPhone camera is leagues ahead of every other smartphone and some budget point and shoots. If they we're all bad that'd be one thing but use the camera on an iPhone 5(s/c) and tell me it's in the same tier as even the best Android cameras.

Smartphone cameras aren't about superb quality they're about having a camera at the ready. Android cameras fail at this utterly.

I think I know what you mean. The iPhone's "software stabilizer" and auto focus is pretty good. Android's stock camera is terrible in that department.
4.2.2 significantly addressed that and I hope they make more improvements.

Pictures that are taken on the iPhone do look better when you view them through the iPhone screen.
Once you actually export the images and look at them side by side with shots taken from comparative androids, there's practically very little difference though.



This is stupid,   when comparing cellphone cameras, you're essentially ranking poo among other slightly-less poo...

It's like comparing which laptop has better keyboards...   Yes there is a ranking, but they're all crummy in the end...



Egdx 4 life(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-29.gif)
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Tue, 07 January 2014, 22:17:08
This is stupid,   when comparing cellphone cameras, you're essentially ranking poo among other slightly-less poo...

It's like comparing which laptop has better keyboards...   Yes there is a ranking, but they're all crummy in the end...

Egdx 4 life
Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-29.gif)


Challenge accepted.
Panda Poo is worth than Monkey Poo ... and probably worth a fortune!
I'm 100% sure of it.

Actually some poo is great for fertilizer and has great value.
Oh that reminds me, I need some coyote urine because stupid bunnies are destroying my juniper ferns.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: oscillik on Wed, 08 January 2014, 06:42:57
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)


Nexus 5 camera is as crap as the Nexus 4 camera. Peak android experience my eye.

I've not had a good Android phone since the Nexus One

The Nexus 5 camera is actually quite a lot better than the Nexus 4 camera. I know this, because I have used both as my main phone.

(http://i.imgur.com/myDrG8nl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/byy1rhkl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uoxNq3gl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VVZXAAxl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rUfCvMvl.jpg)

all taken with my Nexus 5
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:44:59
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)


Nexus 5 camera is as crap as the Nexus 4 camera. Peak android experience my eye.

I've not had a good Android phone since the Nexus One

The Nexus 5 camera is actually quite a lot better than the Nexus 4 camera. I know this, because I have used both as my main phone.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/myDrG8nl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/byy1rhkl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uoxNq3gl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VVZXAAxl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rUfCvMvl.jpg)


all taken with my Nexus 5

Those are lovely! All the more proof that it's the photographer not the camera that makes or breaks the shot. And yeah, the camera hardware is a definite step forward.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: oscillik on Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:11:05
I've been running 4.4 ever since slim started compiling theirs, and I must say the white has grown on me. And since I am running it on my SGS4 it is a million times (scientifically proven) faster than touchjizz.

I am going to try for a nexus device on my next upgrade, but the 5 is just not worth it when I have the SGS4.

give sgs4 to mom...  nx5 is the best android experience possible, and people won't think you're a cheater by proxy because samsung cheats in their benchmarks.

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-32.gif)


Nexus 5 camera is as crap as the Nexus 4 camera. Peak android experience my eye.

I've not had a good Android phone since the Nexus One

The Nexus 5 camera is actually quite a lot better than the Nexus 4 camera. I know this, because I have used both as my main phone.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/myDrG8nl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/byy1rhkl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uoxNq3gl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VVZXAAxl.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rUfCvMvl.jpg)


all taken with my Nexus 5

Those are lovely! All the more proof that it's the photographer not the camera that makes or breaks the shot. And yeah, the camera hardware is a definite step forward.

thanks! I do try to take some nice shots, would like to get a proper camera but I already have quite a few expensive hobbies... don't need to add DSLR bodies and lenses into the mix as well!

my nexus 5 will have to suffice, but it does a pretty okay job
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 January 2014, 08:53:14
This is stupid,   when comparing cellphone cameras, you're essentially ranking poo among other slightly-less poo...

It's like comparing which laptop has better keyboards...   Yes there is a ranking, but they're all crummy in the end...

Egdx 4 life
Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-29.gif)


Challenge accepted.
Panda Poo is worth than Monkey Poo ... and probably worth a fortune!
I'm 100% sure of it.

Actually some poo is great for fertilizer and has great value.
Oh that reminds me, I need some coyote urine because stupid bunnies are destroying my juniper ferns.

On mythbusters they tested tiger poo i think, and it doesn't deter cats...  so... how sure is the coyote poo to work.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:33:41
This is stupid,   when comparing cellphone cameras, you're essentially ranking poo among other slightly-less poo...

It's like comparing which laptop has better keyboards...   Yes there is a ranking, but they're all crummy in the end...

Egdx 4 life
Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-29.gif)


Challenge accepted.
Panda Poo is worth than Monkey Poo ... and probably worth a fortune!
I'm 100% sure of it.

Actually some poo is great for fertilizer and has great value.
Oh that reminds me, I need some coyote urine because stupid bunnies are destroying my juniper ferns.

On mythbusters they tested tiger poo i think, and it doesn't deter cats...  so... how sure is the coyote poo to work.

It's urine not poo! Get your **** right  :p. Apparently because coyotes are natural rabbit predators so it scares the rabbits off (that's what the interwebs tell me).


I took a photo-sphere with my Nexus 4 in the middle of times square at 3am or something. That was pretty cool!
 
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:48:10
I came to this thread looking for KitKat's.

(http://www.mikesblender.com/kit%20kat_strawberry.jpg)

I am sadly disappointed :(
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:56:01
I came to this thread looking for KitKat's.

Show Image
(http://www.mikesblender.com/kit%20kat_strawberry.jpg)


I am sadly disappointed :(

I don't know why we don't get this cool **** in the states.
It's like kitkat thinks we muricans only want manly dark chocolate I mean ... wafer biscuit .... goods.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 09 January 2014, 22:00:02
I came to this thread looking for KitKat's.

Show Image
(http://www.mikesblender.com/kit%20kat_strawberry.jpg)


I am sadly disappointed :(

I don't know why we don't get this cool **** in the states.
It's like kitkat thinks we muricans only want manly dark chocolate I mean ... wafer biscuit .... goods.

The more I hear about all the cool KitKat flavors I think, what the hell Nestle? My Japanese friends come the US and they're mystified at all the different options we have for soft-drinks, among other things. I guess Nestle thinks American's don't like candy?
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Thu, 09 January 2014, 22:05:22
I came to this thread looking for KitKat's.

Show Image
(http://www.mikesblender.com/kit%20kat_strawberry.jpg)


I am sadly disappointed :(

I don't know why we don't get this cool **** in the states.
It's like kitkat thinks we muricans only want manly dark chocolate I mean ... wafer biscuit .... goods.

The more I hear about all the cool KitKat flavors I think, what the hell Nestle? My Japanese friends come the US and they're mystified at all the different options we have for soft-drinks, among other things. I guess Nestle thinks American's don't like candy?

Except all our soft drinks are the same thing. It's like Pepsi vs coke, sprite vs 7-up, Sunkist vs that other dude's orange soda etc etc. Actually now that I think about it ... we do have alot of soda it's just not in restaurants because they have a particular exclusive contract/sponsor. Those drink bar things in Japan are pretty cool though. I want my melon soda.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: wuqe on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:54:08
I'm enjoying KitKat... on my Galaxy S. Google says they've optimized for limited-RAM devices, and it sure seems to work better on my aged 512MB-of-ram S. Sweet!
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:56:01
I'm enjoying KitKat... on my Galaxy S. Google says they've optimized for limited-RAM devices, and it sure seems to work better on my aged 512MB-of-ram S. Sweet!

nexus fah fah fah fah 5 (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif).
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:28:01
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I'm enjoying KitKat... on my Galaxy S. Google says they've optimized for limited-RAM devices, and it sure seems to work better on my aged 512MB-of-ram S. Sweet!

nexus fah fah fah fah 5
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(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)
.

Yep.
Nexus 5 is so gooooood.
My battery life on the 5 is great.

I almost decided not to upgrade from the Nexus 4 too.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 15 January 2014, 06:22:10
Nexus 5 here I come.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: thadood on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:42:14
I jumped ship from Sprint/iPhone 5 to T-Mobile/Nexus 5. I had a Samsung Epic 4G before the iPhone - and let me say that the user experience has dramatically improved. I was constantly aggravated with the Epic, mainly due to Android. Now, however, I don't even have an urge to put a custom ROM on it to see any sort of improvement. I love this thing. Also switched from Dalvik to ART the other day and noticed a touch faster response times and better battery life.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Wed, 15 January 2014, 19:41:19
I used to change custom roms on my nexus 4 every week but that got to be too much of a pain in the ass even with tibu.
I think I was into custom roms because of how buggy 4.2 and 4.3 were.
My nexus 10 had so many soft freezes. My nexus 4 had 3 hours of battery.
Man those days were bad.
Oh and changing kernels also killed your battery life for the first 1-2 charge cycles.

I'm glad I no longer have to do that anymore.

4.4 is really a nice improvement over the derpy nature of android 4.2 and 4.3..
The one thing I do miss about not having a custom rom is not being able to adust the navbar in stock.
Transparent navbar on the homescreen has made things better though.

Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 15 January 2014, 19:43:42
What about xposed module?
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Wed, 15 January 2014, 19:50:01
What about xposed module?
That requires root, which disables OTA and some other convenient things.
So that's the trade off.
I think at that point might as well just get a custom rom with xposed modules or something similar baked in.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Sat, 18 January 2014, 10:40:12
I'm trying to install the cyanogenmod on my galaxy s4, I have the latest update from AT&T which is 4.3. I'm having a hard time rooting the phone, is this because of Knox?
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 21 February 2014, 05:33:12
I think that is because you have a boot loader that is locked.
You will be able to install only a few custom roms. You should check the appropriate forum at xda-developers for more info.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:35:30
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I'm enjoying KitKat... on my Galaxy S. Google says they've optimized for limited-RAM devices, and it sure seems to work better on my aged 512MB-of-ram S. Sweet!

nexus fah fah fah fah 5
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(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_aji.gif)
.

Yep.
Nexus 5 is so gooooood.
My battery life on the 5 is great.

I almost decided not to upgrade from the Nexus 4 too.
During the weekend I get 1d+ and 3+ hours of screen time...
I'm waiting for my Micro SD to mini usb to flash elementalX and Mahdi rom...
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:37:12
So AT&T finally rolled out Kitkat to my telephono. I really like the ability to use whichever launcher I choose, using KK google experience launcher at the moment, like it so far. I'm now on the hunt for a cooler looking text message app to replace this ugly Samsung one..
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 28 February 2014, 19:20:31
I'm having some trouble trying to get RealRacing 3 to work with Art... According to interwebs it's supposed to work...  :(
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 01 March 2014, 07:41:27
So AT&T finally rolled out Kitkat to my telephono. I really like the ability to use whichever launcher I choose, using KK google experience launcher at the moment, like it so far. I'm now on the hunt for a cooler looking text message app to replace this ugly Samsung one..

Have a look at Hello sms. Maybe you'll like it =).
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Novus on Sat, 01 March 2014, 15:14:02
You can use google hangouts - it replaced the stock text messenger on stock phones.
There's no google voice integration though which is a downside for me.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Mon, 03 March 2014, 19:23:10
So AT&T finally rolled out Kitkat to my telephono. I really like the ability to use whichever launcher I choose, using KK google experience launcher at the moment, like it so far. I'm now on the hunt for a cooler looking text message app to replace this ugly Samsung one..

Have a look at Hello sms. Maybe you'll like it =).

thanks Gliss, I tried Hello...ended up using Textra, I like the black/gray/green theme they got going on...
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 03 March 2014, 20:04:54
It's all good :) Glad you found something you enjoy using. I've tried so many different ones that the simple style of Hello sms really suits me well. It has a "night mode" too, but I like the white better than black for reading.
I'll have a look at Textra.

Edit: Looks a little like chompsms or handycent to me. Chomp and handy ended up having too many features for me, but used them both a lot back in the day ^^.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: C5Allroad on Mon, 03 March 2014, 20:36:15
Is there a way to enable sending gifs in textra? Says there is a maximum size.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Mon, 03 March 2014, 20:52:45
Is there a way to enable sending gifs in textra? Says there is a maximum size.

I'm kinda noob to it, but checkout Settings > MMS > MMS Settings > Send Size Limit?
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: rpx on Tue, 04 March 2014, 16:37:34
I highly recommend TextSecure if you're looking for an alternate SMS/MMS app.  The latest version uses data automatically if it detects another TextSecure user (like iMessage does on the iPhone).  It automatically exchanges keys and encrypts text messages between you and other encryption users.  It also protects all of your SMS/MMS messages behind a password.  You can unlock it for a period of time and quick-lock if you need to block someone from accessing your messages in a hurry.

Also- if you used TextSecure before, you probably had issues with group messaging.  It works now. :)
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: demik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:17:01
so i have 4.4.3 on my S4 and this autocomplete crap it does on chrome is annoying as ****.

i'll type g for geekhack and it goes to gg. or a for apple and it goes aa. and if i continue to type the word (ge for example) it'll continue to do it (gege)

anybody else experiencing this? it started after the 4.4.3 update.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:23:55
so i have 4.4.3 on my S4 and this autocomplete crap it does on chrome is annoying as ****.

i'll type g for geekhack and it goes to gg. or a for apple and it goes aa. and if i continue to type the word (ge for example) it'll continue to do it (gege)

anybody else experiencing this? it started after the 4.4.3 update.

I have the same phone, checkout My device > Language and input > press the gear icon next to the Samsung keyboard (if using the default keyboard) > Predictive text? Most of that sweet stuff is in that area..
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: oscillik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:27:24
so i have 4.4.3 on my S4 and this autocomplete crap it does on chrome is annoying as ****.

i'll type g for geekhack and it goes to gg. or a for apple and it goes aa. and if i continue to type the word (ge for example) it'll continue to do it (gege)

anybody else experiencing this? it started after the 4.4.3 update.

that's some cock-up with the Samsung keyboard. that doesn't happen at all on stock Android, with the stock Android keyboard.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: demik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:29:00
ah, good to know. was annoying the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:29:46
for real, i turned it off as well.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: demik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:34:52
alright, predictive text is off. works better now.

other than that hiccup, i really like this phone. i just wish it didnt have so many apps that are useless to me. im thinking of getting a nexus 5, but the fact this phone is plastic keeps me here. i tend to drop my phone a lot. and stuff like apple's iphone doesn't last me long. and i hate cases.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: digi on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:39:06
alright, predictive text is off. works better now.

other than that hiccup, i really like this phone. i just wish it didnt have so many apps that are useless to me. im thinking of getting a nexus 5, but the fact this phone is plastic keeps me here. i tend to drop my phone a lot. and stuff like apple's iphone doesn't last me long. and i hate cases.

I'm the exact same way, I also hate phone cases and drop my phone quite a bit. The Nexus 5 does look pretty swaggy, it runs pure Android and no Samsung bloatware. My buddy has it and really likes it, a tad smaller than the S4 if I remember correctly..
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: oscillik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:43:03
alright, predictive text is off. works better now.

other than that hiccup, i really like this phone. i just wish it didnt have so many apps that are useless to me. im thinking of getting a nexus 5, but the fact this phone is plastic keeps me here. i tend to drop my phone a lot. and stuff like apple's iphone doesn't last me long. and i hate cases.

if it's any help, the Nexus 5 is plastic construction also, and has a Gorilla Glass 3 screen (not like that makes much difference really, glass is glass, and the Gorilla Glass 2 on my Nexus 4 got scratches very very easily).
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: demik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:46:39
alright, predictive text is off. works better now.

other than that hiccup, i really like this phone. i just wish it didnt have so many apps that are useless to me. im thinking of getting a nexus 5, but the fact this phone is plastic keeps me here. i tend to drop my phone a lot. and stuff like apple's iphone doesn't last me long. and i hate cases.

if it's any help, the Nexus 5 is plastic construction also, and has a Gorilla Glass 3 screen (not like that makes much difference really, glass is glass, and the Gorilla Glass 2 on my Nexus 4 got scratches very very easily).

interesting. removeable battery?

alright, predictive text is off. works better now.

other than that hiccup, i really like this phone. i just wish it didnt have so many apps that are useless to me. im thinking of getting a nexus 5, but the fact this phone is plastic keeps me here. i tend to drop my phone a lot. and stuff like apple's iphone doesn't last me long. and i hate cases.

I'm the exact same way, I also hate phone cases and drop my phone quite a bit. The Nexus 5 does look pretty swaggy, it runs pure Android and no Samsung bloatware. My buddy has it and really likes it, a tad smaller than the S4 if I remember correctly..

i actually found the S4 to be pretty big when I first got it (came from an iPhone 5) but now I've gotten used to the size. Pure Android is the reason I'd get it, although I am enjoying this samsung remote thing.
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: oscillik on Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:13:26
that's the thing - no removable battery on a Nexus phone since the Galaxy Nexus. I've not found it to be a problem though, and I was initially very against the idea of a non-removable battery
Title: Re: Android 4.4 (KitKat)
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:21:47
Is there a way to enable sending gifs in textra? Says there is a maximum size.

I'm kinda noob to it, but checkout Settings > MMS > MMS Settings > Send Size Limit?
Thanks lol  :p

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Someone go try BeanStalk rom... Holy ****, best rom I've ever used.