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Title: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 January 2014, 20:00:55: A little while ago I made a thread of me goofing around with some key cap ideas (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52640.msg1169075#msg1169075) that were inspired by old typewriters. Since some people seemed genuinely interested in them, I decided to do an interest check and see what people thought.

This isn't something I'll be able to undertake quite yet since I'll need to get an SP color ring to confirm the colors together, I'll have to get quotes, and I'll have to do some research on whether I want to set up a DBA or something else for tax reasons (though I plan on it being non-profit like my last one). I may also hit up Bunny and/or i3oilermaker to see about running it through them. So don't expect this super soon, it's just something I want to test and see how people feel.

Lastly, if you know 3D software and wanted to help out with making renders from these files (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52988.msg1179529#msg1179529), you'd be my hero.

Interest Check Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1FJGarxcE7lqHiegespPBSX9UWKoMBI6kYbbWWv1KtUs/viewform)

Each set will come with a `~ and \| cap in both Alpha and Mods colors so you can choose symmetry or tradition. In the case of the Princess/Signature/Smith Corona sets, there will be a red Tab, Backspace, and += cap so that you can choose which of the inspired layouts you want.

Princess 300 - SP colors RAS, WCK, BX

(http://i.imgur.com/DWCWXlc.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/02HoeBo.png)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/oRBRpTj.png)

http://i.imgur.com/a5i6GlG.png

Signature 511 - SP colors BFT, RAS, GTL

(http://i.imgur.com/9GBcwg6.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/YzhGjG5.png)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/v9Cgu3I.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/zrjIU2E.png)

Smith Corona - SP colors BEY, RAS, WA

(http://i.imgur.com/TnyVFNq.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Zu0UJFy.png)

Alternate layouts:

More
(http://i.imgur.com/L0vsUuv.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/B87H4qO.png)

Triumph De Jur Perfekt - SP colors WCK, TAA, TBN, VAV

(http://i.imgur.com/ZKeqR0g.png)

Royal Apollo GT 10 - SP colors GT, YL, WCK, GSP, YCC, GTA (probably do grey alphas and grey legends the same grey or do orange on cream, but needed some more contrast in the small picture)

(http://i.imgur.com/581hbMO.png)

Underwood Universal - SP colors VAF, WA, GBA

(http://i.imgur.com/9nJS3ku.png)

For special legends, I was thinking a small typewriter and maybe something like this Royal logo (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8JyQl6AfJQ4/T6b2PiSDyEI/AAAAAAAAA5A/o9-OSyRUmo4/s1600/RoyalLogo.JPG) since more than a few were royal inspired. I don't have quiet the talent to make something, so I'd need some help and am more than willing to take suggestions. We could also do a Code key.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:35:48: No interest in any of these color ways? If not, I guess I'll sadly take them with me and hope something comes along similar in the future. I'm partial to the Underwood Universal and Princess 300.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:43:58: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:35:48
No interest in any of these color ways? If not, I guess I'll sadly take them with me and hope something comes along similar in the future. I'm partial to the Underwood Universal and Princess 300.

Hey, I'm interested because you can do a set in SA Profile that mimic the actual typewriter keys themselves. Please say you won't be sticking with DCS only?

I love the look of old typewriter keys because I use to have some back in the olden days where typewriters were only available and no such thing as Computers. Damn infernal PC's >:( .

It was so much easier when all you needed was a sheet of white A4 letter sized paper to get a message out :thumb: .

I like your Royal Apollo GT 10 colour-way because no one has done that colour combo yet.....plus I always liked the Royal over most other typewriters.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:47:40: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:35:48
No interest in any of these color ways? If not, I guess I'll sadly take them with me and hope something comes along similar in the future. I'm partial to the Underwood Universal and Princess 300.

I'm not sure what was going on, but I didn't see this thread until you posted this response. A possible bug in the forum software? Can anyone else confirm this?

Also, I love the Princess 300. I'm just so-so on the others.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:50:16: Quote from: Elrick on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:43:58
Hey, I'm interested because you can do a set in SA Profile that mimic the actual typewriter keys themselves. Please say you won't be sticking with DCS only?

I love the look of old typewriter keys because I use to have some back in the olden days where typewriters were only available and no such thing as Computers. Damn infernal PC's >:( .

It was so much easier when all you needed was a sheet of white A4 letter sized paper to get a message out :thumb: .

I like your Royal Apollo GT 10 colour-way because no one has done that colour combo yet.....plus I always liked the Royal over most other typewriters.

Since all the typewriters that inspired the sets were low or lower profile keys, I was planning DSA or DCS only. And, to be honest, I really hate SA profile, so I was looking at doing profiles I'd like if I was going to run it. That said, if there's enough interest and if DCS and/or DSA can hit the second or third pricing tier without SA cannibalizing one of those profiles, I'd consider adding it.

I really like the Apollo GT 10 too, but something about the Underwood Universal makes it my favorite.

Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:47:40
I'm not sure what was going on, but I didn't see this thread until you posted this response. A possible bug in the forum software? Can anyone else confirm this?

Also, I love the Princess 300. I'm just so-so on the others.

Weird. I know I've been having some weird approval issues of late, first with my Taobao thread in great finds, then with this.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: lcs on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:54:44: I'm with you, Dubs. Really like the princess, smith corona, and the last one.

Would like edox kits :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 21:06:39: Smith corona yes please I'd buy one to match mine

The royal one and the underwood one are awesome too.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 06 January 2014, 21:20:01: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:50:16
Since all the typewriters that inspired the sets were low or lower profile keys, I was planning DSA or DCS only.

I really like the Apollo GT 10 too, but something about the Underwood Universal makes it my favorite.

That's fine if you want the recent typewriter profiles because those that you mentioned only appeared towards the end of their lifetime. I was thinking of the SA profiles resembling the much older Vintage Royals (from 1910 to 1940) that were all manual (no electricity).

Of course you wouldn't remember using them because they were very old and not easy to type with. But they were beautiful in a Steam-punk sort of way.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: justnits on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:57:37: please don't make DSA, making DSA is bad for my wallet! :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 08 January 2014, 14:49:23: I really can't decide which one of Royal Apollo GT 10, Princess 300 und Triumph De Jur Perfekt I like the most. These three look very nice and I'm only curious about the beige color from the Princess 300 set. Would love to see the colors when you get the answers from SP.
I'm not sure about which kind of profile I like. So I guess I'm open for that one. Hopefully this'll get into a GB I really like those sets you created :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:03:30: Whats moq for bsp custom sets? Is it possible at all?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:41:54: Quote from: Moosecraft on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:03:30
Whats moq for bsp custom sets? Is it possible at all?

A lot IIRC

And they don't have 1.25x mods which is a big no-no for a lot of people.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 10 January 2014, 01:06:11: Quote from: Moosecraft on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:03:30
Whats moq for bsp custom sets? Is it possible at all?

I doubt it would really be possible for sets like this. I'd love GMK, but that would be impossible. The best that could be done is SP or maybe Devlin unless Tai Hao suddenly opened up a ton more options.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: n0rvig on Fri, 10 January 2014, 14:28:23: Nubbs those are gorgeous. I love the black & green one.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: jiggityjane on Fri, 10 January 2014, 15:39:30: Quote from: n0rvig on Fri, 10 January 2014, 14:28:23
Nubbs those are gorgeous. I love the black & green one.

This (if by black he means brown).

Tis a thing of beauty. I would in for a set of those.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 10 January 2014, 18:47:33: Voted for Signature 511 DCS Cherry/SP Font.

Hope it doesn't go through...I don't want to buy anymore key sets..
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: DelKey on Sat, 11 January 2014, 09:41:35: I really like the Triumph and Royal color ways. They're more unique or at least less common. I'm glad that the timing isn't soon- I've binged recently and would be happy to bank some money before the next buying spree.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:09:12: Not a ton of responses so far, but Underwood Universal is edging out the others. Everything is super close between the sets. Large and centered and DCS seem to be the preferred though, which the Cherry font taking a close second. It's split pretty even between including the Tsangan and not including it.

Of course, I'll be finishing up the other GB before even thinking about touching this.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: funkymeeba on Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:35:03: Down with DCS! I want that DSA. :D
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:37:22: Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:09:12
Not a ton of responses so far, but Underwood Universal is edging out the others. Everything is super close between the sets. Large and centered and DCS seem to be the preferred though, which the Cherry font taking a close second. It's split pretty even between including the Tsangan and not including it.

Of course, I'll be finishing up the other GB before even thinking about touching this.

Huh, I really felt like the Princess 300 blew everything else out of the water. A bit bummed that it doesn't look like it will happen. Good luck with the GB whenever it occurs, though!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:57:07: Honestly, I'll probably try and do each or get someone to try and do each (except for those three that are so close in color) based upon the fact that they're all pretty much tied. At this point it's more of a which one do you want to do first bit.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: sublime on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:11:36: Even if this doesn't pull through I'd still like to add my input: my choice goes to the Triumph De Jur Perfekt.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 12 January 2014, 23:37:11: Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:09:12
Not a ton of responses so far, but Underwood Universal is edging out the others. Everything is super close between the sets. Large and centered and DCS seem to be the preferred though, which the Cherry font taking a close second. It's split pretty even between including the Tsangan and not including it.

Of course, I'll be finishing up the other GB before even thinking about touching this.

Just give it time, also get some actual photos of typewriters because some people here have never heard or seen any of them. I don't blame them because most were born when Core2 duo's were sold near them.

Besides that's democracy in action, if you don't like it - instigate a coup and take over it yourself.
Better to dictate what will happen next. I would vote for a coup only because it belongs here :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 23:44:05: Oh, I'm definitely giving it time, I just thought it was interesting how close everything is.

As for pics, they're in the first link in the post, but I'll post them again.

Princess 300

(http://i.imgur.com/EaqbE80.png)

Signature 511

(http://i.imgur.com/M7ddO0L.jpg)

Smith Corona

(http://i.imgur.com/7jexXQJ.jpg)

Triumph De Jour Perfekt

(http://i.imgur.com/6acBczQ.png)

Royal Apollo 10-GT

(http://i.imgur.com/pzuWkO3.png)

Underwood Universal

(http://i.imgur.com/T5TJjim.jpg)

If it keeps being pretty much split, I'll make an executive decision on it. I just wanted to try and get a feel for what would hit the MOQ the easiest.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: naokira on Mon, 13 January 2014, 00:36:03: I like the princess 300 colorway. I'd be down for the graphite legends too, if there is :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 13 January 2014, 02:43:24: Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 23:44:05
Oh, I'm definitely giving it time, I just thought it was interesting how close everything is.

As for pics, they're in the first link in the post, but I'll post them again.

Princess 300

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/EaqbE80.png)

Signature 511

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M7ddO0L.jpg)

Smith Corona

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7jexXQJ.jpg)

Triumph De Jour Perfekt

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6acBczQ.png)

Royal Apollo 10-GT

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pzuWkO3.png)

Underwood Universal

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T5TJjim.jpg)

If it keeps being pretty much split, I'll make an executive decision on it. I just wanted to try and get a feel for what would hit the MOQ the easiest.

Thanks for the beaut photos but you have helped to support my first request in having these key-caps done in an SA Profile. Due to the visual evidence you have now provided (my secret plan has worked......hehehe ;) ).

If you're going to do type writer keys make them as original as they can be. That would be a far greater salute to these wonderful specimens than doing them in standard DCS format only.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 13 January 2014, 08:54:12: The main profile will be DSA or DCS with maybe an option for SA if there are enough people who ask for it while still hitting the DSA or DCS numbers. I hate SA, so if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it in profiles I want to use.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: AFKfapping on Tue, 14 January 2014, 02:42:33: Extremly interested in Princess 300 and Smith Corona made a gh account just to tell you how interested i am in those keysets ! you already have me bought if you decide to actually make them
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:32:14: Quote from: jiggityjane on Fri, 10 January 2014, 15:39:30
Quote from: n0rvig on Fri, 10 January 2014, 14:28:23
Nubbs those are gorgeous. I love the black & green one.

This (if by black he means brown).

Tis a thing of beauty. I would in for a set of those.

Yeah that!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 14 January 2014, 12:37:07: I love the idea of retro colorschemes (colorways, whatever!) -- I like the Underwood and the Signature the best. What about something that reproduces the rounded corners of the original typewriters? I'm thinking something like the Wario key from techkeys, which was achieved by making a DS circle, and then printing over it.

To me, what makes these old typewriters stand out are the odd shapes of the keys.

[attachimg=1]

I'm not saying this wouldn't be expensive, but can you imagine it? It would look freakin' awesome. If you had a black case, with all the keys like that, then the retro keyshape would jump out at you. Maybe we could do a limited run of a just a single key, like the Enter or Backspace, to test out the idea?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:22:23: I am basically interested in everything in Cherry/DCS profile with Cherry font.

Will probably get one set of this as well :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 15 January 2014, 17:02:43: I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed dis for us guys. The designs look so awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 15 January 2014, 18:45:55: Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 14 January 2014, 12:37:07
I love the idea of retro colorschemes (colorways, whatever!) -- I like the Underwood and the Signature the best. What about something that reproduces the rounded corners of the original typewriters? I'm thinking something like the Wario key from techkeys, which was achieved by making a DS circle, and then printing over it.

To me, what makes these old typewriters stand out are the odd shapes of the keys.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53052.0;attach=50883;image)

I'm not saying this wouldn't be expensive, but can you imagine it? It would look freakin' awesome. If you had a black case, with all the keys like that, then the retro keyshape would jump out at you. Maybe we could do a limited run of a just a single key, like the Enter or Backspace, to test out the idea?

Dye-sub perhaps? You couldn't do the black background, but you could do the keyshape(s) and legends on a neutral background.

Put them on a 60% PCB and drop it into a dead-but-still-pretty typewriter case? Awesome.

- Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. Smith-Corona for me, but that is just because I had one back in the day.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 15 January 2014, 20:23:25: I would buy one of whichever was produced since they all look fantastic.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 16 January 2014, 06:47:50: Quote from: samwisekoi on Wed, 15 January 2014, 18:45:55
Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 14 January 2014, 12:37:07
I love the idea of retro colorschemes (colorways, whatever!) -- I like the Underwood and the Signature the best. What about something that reproduces the rounded corners of the original typewriters? I'm thinking something like the Wario key from techkeys, which was achieved by making a DS circle, and then printing over it.

To me, what makes these old typewriters stand out are the odd shapes of the keys.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53052.0;attach=50883;image)

I'm not saying this wouldn't be expensive, but can you imagine it? It would look freakin' awesome. If you had a black case, with all the keys like that, then the retro keyshape would jump out at you. Maybe we could do a limited run of a just a single key, like the Enter or Backspace, to test out the idea?

Dye-sub perhaps? You couldn't do the black background, but you could do the keyshape(s) and legends on a neutral background.

Put them on a 60% PCB and drop it into a dead-but-still-pretty typewriter case? Awesome.

- Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. Smith-Corona for me, but that is just because I had one back in the day.

Boiler made this key a while back: http://techkeys.us/collections/pbt/products/w-key
It's a double-shot white circle with the 'W' dye-subbed into it. So yeah, this is possible.

[attachimg=1]

I'd like to see a cream-cheese, white, or pale blue DS 'fingerpad shape' onto black. Those colors would accept a black dyesub imprint. Why black for the key itself? So that it might blend together on a black case and not be seen, and maybe, maybe make those fingerpad shapes stand out more. Doing an entire set this way might be really hard, but maybe an 'Enter' key and 'Esc' key would be possible, to put the concept to the test? For the 'Enter' we could just widen the shape.

Also, the shape I put down as reminiscent of the Smith-Corona isn't quite accurate; it's actually a bit more nuanced:

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 16 January 2014, 09:03:28: I know caps like that would be expensive, probably making the GB as expensive or more expensive than a GMK buy. So if there is anything like that done, it would probably be for an Esc key or Geekhack key.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 16 January 2014, 11:08:53: Well, a flat-profile keycap that used the Krogenar/i3oilermaker method would mean a single 1x double-shot mold, then those could be dye-subbed with the legends.

So, I stand corrected, the Krogenar retro-keyshapes on black keycaps are totally doable with available technology. Mods would have to be either expensive or contrasting. Perhaps normal double-shot with the 1x shape color used for the legends. Or the inverse of that.

- Ron | samwisekoi

[EDIT]
In fact, the existing i3oilermaker molds could be used to create an even older look, Brass-era Underwood ("Below Tree") keycaps, anyone?
[/EDIT]
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 16 January 2014, 13:31:53: Quote from: samwisekoi on Thu, 16 January 2014, 11:08:53
Well, a flat-profile keycap that used the Krogenar/i3oilermaker method would mean a single 1x double-shot mold, then those could be dye-subbed with the legends.

So, I stand corrected, the Krogenar retro-keyshapes on black keycaps are totally doable with available technology. Mods would have to be either expensive or contrasting. Perhaps normal double-shot with the 1x shape color used for the legends. Or the inverse of that.

- Ron | samwisekoi

[EDIT]
In fact, the existing i3oilermaker molds could be used to create an even older look, Brass-era Underwood ("Below Tree") keycaps, anyone?
[/EDIT]

Like this?

[attachimg=1]

A DS w/(Dyesub or UV or padprinting) key would only really work with single letter keys. The shiftable numerics might be able to fit, but could look really weird. A circle would provide more space for a legend, though. I'm going to try putting some cut vinyl stickers onto some clear DCS alphas to see how they would look.

If they looked even remotely non-stupid, maybe get an otaku-style set for alphas, and draw whatever you want onto them, LOL!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:15:16: Ok, instead of stickers, here's a mockup using an Otaku-style daskeyboard. (mx blues, ick...) with just the alphas with a DS-circle on them.

Honestly, I would attempt to maybe draw the legends onto the circles using a gel pen - calligraphic characters? We're only talking about making a single legend on a single unit keycap for alphas. Then I got to looking at the numeric pad. To do the numeric keypad would require only three legends to be cut, right? One circle, the two verticals, and the single horizontal. Then you could 'add' a typewriter-style keypad to a layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 24 January 2014, 03:48:26: If this becomes a GB we do need an ISO Kit please! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 24 January 2014, 08:58:19: Quote from: genkidama on Fri, 24 January 2014, 03:48:26
If this becomes a GB we do need an ISO Kit please! ;)

One will be made available, but it will have to meet MOQ in order to be made. ISO always has a hard time hitting the MOQ and it can get expensive to try and subsidize it for a handful of people. That's a while out though. I need to finish my current GB before really thinking about this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 24 January 2014, 10:20:33: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 24 January 2014, 08:58:19
Quote from: genkidama on Fri, 24 January 2014, 03:48:26
If this becomes a GB we do need an ISO Kit please! ;)

One will be made available, but it will have to meet MOQ in order to be made. ISO always has a hard time hitting the MOQ and it can get expensive to try and subsidize it for a handful of people. That's a while out though. I need to finish my current GB before really thinking about this one.

I hope we'll manage to meet MOQ for ISO otherwise it would break my heart. But maybe you are fancy to make some nebula-flavoured ISO Kit for this set? :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:04:20: If someone would do just 3 renders (Black, White, MidGrey) we could generate a PSD where you can easily change luminance and color to generate new schemes.
Perhaps a easier solution than generating a new render each time...
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: swill on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:25:52: I'd be interested, but not in SP. If you do it with gmk I would buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 24 January 2014, 15:14:31: The problem with doing this with GMK is twofold.

Color matching, and MOQ.

These probably won't be the most popular sets ever, and GMK doesn't have any reasonably close light blue in their selection.

but It'd still be sweet if we could.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 24 January 2014, 15:14:41: Quote from: swill on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:25:52
I'd be interested, but not in SP. If you do it with gmk I would buy.

GMK would be my preferred as well, but there's the MOQ issue and the fact that they have fewer color options.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 19 February 2014, 12:22:47: Quote from: Krogenar on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:15:16
Ok, instead of stickers, here's a mockup using an Otaku-style daskeyboard. (mx blues, ick...) with just the alphas with a DS-circle on them.

Honestly, I would attempt to maybe draw the legends onto the circles using a gel pen - calligraphic characters? We're only talking about making a single legend on a single unit keycap for alphas. Then I got to looking at the numeric pad. To do the numeric keypad would require only three legends to be cut, right? One circle, the two verticals, and the single horizontal. Then you could 'add' a typewriter-style keypad to a layout.

Nice. A 60% with SA caps would have very few profiles, making it much easier to hit MOQ. Also, legend labels could be made by Fentek.

- Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:08:23: So, I got a GMK color ring in the hopes that I might be able to match a set to their colors and get a nice thick set. Only one of the sets really looked like they'd be able to come close. There was no brown, their orange is too vibrant, and their blues aren't muted enough, but they do have something that approximates the Underwood Universal theme:

(http://i.imgur.com/9nJS3ku.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/8UHy3fr.jpg)

The colors are off in the picture a little and it's a medium grey, a nice green color, and a light off white. It's close enough to look good, but not close enough to match perfectly.

I still need an SP color ring, but I don't want to shell out $40 for one, so I'm seeing what can be done.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:11:52: Would the actual colors be cream/green as the end result (something like a muted CCnG)? The mock-up looks quite a bit turquoise.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:22:45: The mockups definitely have more tourquiose in them. If it was done with GMK, it would be similar to these two colors, with the green as the Alphas and the Grey as the mods, and off white legends:

(http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Pastel/Blockx/Warm-Grey/Warm-Grey.gif)

(http://www.danielsmith.com/ItemImages/Large/P76233B.jpg)

I was hoping GMK would have some more color options, but they're pretty limited. I may have to go SP for it.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:24:32: Yeah, they are :( I used to think they had a teal color, but it was just someone's photograph not presenting the colors accurately. What I thought was teal I now have on my WEY keyboard, and it's actually a muted grayish green. The only turquoise/teal color they now offer was from IvanIvanovich's order of CMYK, and that's a pretty saturated cyan/turquoise.

Apparently GMK is receptive to creating custom colors, but likely won't make them for the 250-set MOQ (only for the original 400 MOQ).
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:27:21: Here's a slightly closer match to the colors:

(http://i.imgur.com/jZdGhVL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SV7Os0B.png)

Yeah, they have a pretty cyan/turquoise, but nothing that would work for the set. I might be able to get something similar to the Royal Apollo GT 10 set, but the others will just be too far off. I might try and get some pictures later to show how far off the colors are.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Dodgy on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:21:11: Totally digging the Royal Apollo set
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:24:59: I have seen this for a while, are you still considering it?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:31:34: Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:24:59
I have seen this for a while, are you still considering it?

Yeah, I've just been working on getting color samples so that I can make sure everything looks good together. The GMK samples just came in and samwisekoi just graciously offered to let me borrow his SP ring.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:34:42: Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:31:34
Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:24:59
I have seen this for a while, are you still considering it?

Yeah, I've just been working on getting color samples so that I can make sure everything looks good together. The GMK samples just came in and samwisekoi just graciously offered to let me borrow his SP ring.

OK, I'll be checking the thread. Thank you very much for the answer. Have you considered pbt with sublimated legends? or you are only after double shots?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:57:58: You'd run into worse color matching problems with dyesub, not to mention that it wouldn't work with the modifiers on most sets and the alphas on some. Doubleshot is the only way most of these will work.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 10:53:29: Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:57:58
You'd run into worse color matching problems with dyesub, not to mention that it wouldn't work with the modifiers on most sets and the alphas on some. Doubleshot is the only way most of these will work.

Yeah, you are right. DS will also get a closer look to the originals I suppose.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: morpheus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 11:04:28: Royal and Underwood are looking banging. I would consider getting these two if I had a choice.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: jebbs on Thu, 20 March 2014, 01:17:09: I quite like the Princess 300. Will stick around for updates.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 23 March 2014, 09:13:47: if they were real vintage typewriters from 19th-early20th century we should be seeing something like the retro DCS - big round keys with big fonts

this looks like boring old electric typewriters to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 11:42:33: Got the color rings from SamwiseKoi yesterday and I'll start working out the colors for SP since it looks like GMK just doesn't have close enough colors.

Quote from: berserkfan on Sun, 23 March 2014, 09:13:47
if they were real vintage typewriters from 19th-early20th century we should be seeing something like the retro DCS - big round keys with big fonts

this looks like boring old electric typewriters to me.

If you look at the IC form, you'll see that the mockups aren't necessarily indicative of the final product. They could be DSA or DCS and they could be SP's legend, Cherry legend, or the large and centered legend.

If you still feel that way after looking at the form, then don't participate when the GB goes live. No one is forcing you to buy them. Like I said, these are vintage inspired color ways. I'm not trying to perfectly replicate vintage typewriters, be they the manual or electric ones that inspired the sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ephrog on Tue, 25 March 2014, 23:27:52: I cannot explain how much I want that Smith Corona set.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 25 March 2014, 23:36:43: I'm liking the Princess 300, Signature 511, & Triumph De Jur Perfekt. Especially if they were DSA.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 26 March 2014, 00:19:29: I've been following this on and off and finally decided to throw my votes in. I'd like to see at least one of these make their way to production.

Can you explain what the difference between Princess 300 and Raindrop would be though? Because I'm having a hard time seeing it as being significantly different. (unless it's different color choices, which is fine)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: PointyFox on Wed, 26 March 2014, 00:24:36: They need big letters like 7bit's "round 3".
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:01:30: Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 26 March 2014, 00:19:29
I've been following this on and off and finally decided to throw my votes in. I'd like to see at least one of these make their way to production.

Can you explain what the difference between Princess 300 and Raindrop would be though? Because I'm having a hard time seeing it as being significantly different. (unless it's different color choices, which is fine)

Good question. To me, they are considerably different, but it may not be different enough for some people and I may just have to try and score myself a RainDrop set, then start a Princess 300 RainDrop mod Group Buy for those interested in the design.

Here's Raindrop colors and Princess 300 proposed colors side by side:

(http://i.imgur.com/vhmjmAk.jpg)

Darker Picture
More
(http://i.imgur.com/WUduyRJ.jpg)

Lighter picture
More
(http://i.imgur.com/AInJXBZ.jpg)

And all three of the proposed colors:

(http://i.imgur.com/aDOm75h.jpg)

Lighter picture:

More
(http://i.imgur.com/l08Wu5M.jpg)

Royal Apollo GT colors (two sets, the greys are incredibly close in color, don't let the different exposure fool you)

Color set 1:

(http://i.imgur.com/2WUQoeN.jpg)

Additional picture:

More
(http://i.imgur.com/OtdsiBj.jpg)

Color Set 2:

(http://i.imgur.com/F3tLxcH.jpg)

Additional pictures:

More
(http://i.imgur.com/poGfQ03.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BwLHQdQ.jpg)

Underwood Universal:

(http://i.imgur.com/vu55IHe.jpg)

Additional pictures:

More
(http://i.imgur.com/Qa90P2O.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8bAhtXf.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:05:12: I see the difference now, thanks for the clarification. :thumb: I really like the look of the blue in the Princess 300 now that you've done the side by side / color chip comparison. It's got a great vintage/muted look to it.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:16:44: That's exactly what I was aiming for. I really want to capture some of that vintage feel in the color choices. It really hasn't been easy picking the right red, grey, and blue since there are so many options and I want to make sure they all play well together while still giving the vintage vibe. I'm still working on the colors for the other two sets as well as trying out some other ideas. There are so many options for some of the sets that it becomes a little difficult to pick the right color sometimes because others could work as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:39:11: That Royal Apollo is just gorgeous
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 March 2014, 15:04:48: Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:39:11
That Royal Apollo is just gorgeous

I have to agree.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ericdrum on Thu, 27 March 2014, 16:15:57: Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 20:39:11
That Royal Apollo is just gorgeous

Love it too. I voted for that one.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 27 March 2014, 21:02:45: Gimme dat apollo

so nice
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 28 March 2014, 21:03:33: It's really nice that this set is getting more interest!
I am still voting for the same sets as I did last time, but wanted to remember to include an ISO Kit for those who need it like I do :)

Keep it going bro!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 15 April 2014, 11:02:57: Royal Apollo - Set #1 looks great.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: swornxin on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:27:13: Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 04 January 2014, 20:00:55
Royal Apollo GT 10 - SP colors GT, YL, WCK, GSP, YCC, GTA (probably do grey alphas and grey legends the same grey or do orange on cream, but needed some more contrast in the small picture)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/581hbMO.png)

This is awesome. Would purchase.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:26:42: I got home too late to photograph the last colors I'm thinking of doing for the remaining sets. Due to the recent interest in the Apollo 10 GT, I may run that one first.

I'm also debating doing an SP Underwood Universal or a "close enough" GMK run of it. I love some GMK goodness, so I'll have to decide later.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:40:41: Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:26:42
I got home too late to photograph the last colors I'm thinking of doing for the remaining sets. Due to the recent interest in the Apollo 10 GT, I may run that one first.

I'm also debating doing an SP Underwood Universal or a "close enough" GMK run of it. I love some GMK goodness, so I'll have to decide later.

Apollo 10 GT done by GMK would be sick.

If you go with SP are you going with DCS profile?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:46:12: GMK doesn't have anywhere near the right colors for Apollo 10 GT unfortunately, just the "close enough" colors for the Underwood Universal. I'm also not sure they'd do custom colors. I'll try and post the colors as comparison later so you can see.

I plan on doing DSA for the profile and maybe a second run later in DCS. DSA goes more with the vintage vibe.

Also, I'm going to see what I can do for a discount for someone who comes up with a nice custom legend for the Winkey and/or menu key, even if it means it will come out of my own pocket. I'd love to see some ideas from people. I was thinking a dumbed down typewriter, the Royal or TA logo, or something else.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 16 April 2014, 23:06:22: Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:46:12
GMK doesn't have anywhere near the right colors for Apollo 10 GT unfortunately, just the "close enough" colors for the Underwood Universal. I'm also not sure they'd do custom colors. I'll try and post the colors as comparison later so you can see.

I plan on doing DSA for the profile and maybe a second run later in DCS. DSA goes more with the vintage vibe.

Also, I'm going to see what I can do for a discount for someone who comes up with a nice custom legend for the Winkey and/or menu key, even if it means it will come out of my own pocket. I'd love to see some ideas from people. I was thinking a dumbed down typewriter, the Royal or TA logo, or something else.

Ah I see. So it would be Apollo 10 GT in DSA? I agree the vintage look of DSA would work well.

As for the "close enough" colors for Underwood Universal I would like almost anything in GMK (especially Princess 300) ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 16 April 2014, 23:09:38: Unfortunately, Underwood Universal is the only one with "close enough" colors for GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 16 April 2014, 23:10:59: Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 16 April 2014, 23:09:38
Unfortunately, Underwood Universal is the only one with "close enough" colors for GMK.

That would still look very badass.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 April 2014, 23:42:17: +1 for making GMK work. As much as I love the way the SP sets look, I usually wind up not using them because I'm not a huge fan of the feel. So if you could make GMK work, I'd at least use it more.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 17 April 2014, 08:32:53: Sounds promising :)
I hope the DCS profile GB will come around as I'm not a fan of the DSA profile But it's true it's more the right profile for such an old-fashioned set. As I have no experience with either SP or GMK I like both ^^ Is it a big difference between them in cost?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 17 April 2014, 08:44:51: DSA Triumph De Jur Perfekt would be legit!
Underwood and 511 are killer too.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 17 April 2014, 08:52:44: Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 April 2014, 23:42:17
+1 for making GMK work. As much as I love the way the SP sets look, I usually wind up not using them because I'm not a huge fan of the feel. So if you could make GMK work, I'd at least use it more.

I'll try and get the pictures up tonight for comparison. I'd love some GMK, but we'll see. If I do go GMK, I'll be trying to see if I can get Bunnylake to help run it since they have an infrastructure in place already and I don't really have the time to set up a DBA or something to make the tax issues less of a deal.

Quote from: genkidama on Thu, 17 April 2014, 08:32:53
Sounds promising :)
I hope the DCS profile GB will come around as I'm not a fan of the DSA profile But it's true it's more the right profile for such an old-fashioned set. As I have no experience with either SP or GMK I like both ^^ Is it a big difference between them in cost?

GMK demands a premium. You also can't get custom legends and the like with it. However, it is much thicker and the caps are fantastic feeling.

Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 17 April 2014, 08:44:51
DSA Triumph De Jur Perfekt would be legit!
Underwood and 511 are killer too.

I'm not sure I can find the right colors for the De Jur Perfekt. I'm trying to match some, but I'm not 100% happy with the colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 17 April 2014, 22:01:09: As promised, GMK "close enough" Underwood Universal. I quite like it, but I like the SP colors better.

(http://i.imgur.com/trwDn1R.jpg)

And here's Smith Corona (or closest I could do that looked good):

(http://i.imgur.com/3DRLl10.jpg)

And Signature 511:

(http://i.imgur.com/lhPAqPK.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 17 April 2014, 22:17:02: Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 17 April 2014, 22:01:09
As promised, GMK "close enough" Underwood Universal. I quite like it, but I like the SP colors better.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/trwDn1R.jpg/img]

And here's Smith Corona (or closest I could do that looked good):

[img]http://i.imgur.com/3DRLl10.jpg)

And Signature 511:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lhPAqPK.jpg)

They would all look great. I like the Signature 511 better then the Smith Corona. (I love the cream alphas on the Princess 300)

And green GMK key cap looks awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:13:47: Trying to get things figured out with PMK since it's bloody unintuitive to sign up to set up a GB. Given the recent love for the Apollo GT 10, I think that's the one I'll be doing.

To make it more affordable, I plan on doing something a little different. Since it's a stripe set, I'll be doing a base set comprised of your Ctrl/Alt/Spacebar, Shift, Caps/Enter, and Tab/\| row and the option for a number stripe for 60% boards or a Function row strip for Tenkeyless. I'm still not sure if I'll build in the Tsangan. Sorry ISO people, but ISO will be separate, as will the numpad. I'm also debating adding a blank row to the numpad for people who have independent numpads. So, yeah, this will happen in the near future, I'm just getting stuff finalized.

Also, I'll be talking to Mkawa about using the Cherry legend.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:43:24: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:13:47
Trying to get things figured out with PMK since it's bloody unintuitive to sign up to set up a GB. Given the recent love for the Apollo GT 10, I think that's the one I'll be doing.

To make it more affordable, I plan on doing something a little different. Since it's a stripe set, I'll be doing a base set comprised of your Ctrl/Alt/Spacebar, Shift, Caps/Enter, and Tab/\| row and the option for a number stripe for 60% boards or a Function row strip for Tenkeyless. I'm still not sure if I'll build in the Tsangan. Sorry ISO people, but ISO will be separate, as will the numpad. I'm also debating adding a blank row to the numpad for people who have independent numpads. So, yeah, this will happen in the near future, I'm just getting stuff finalized.

Also, I'll be talking to Mkawa about using the Cherry legend.

Great news :)

So you mentioned before that you would probably use DSA profile. Are you still going with that?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:50:22: Yup, DSA is the plan. I loathe SA and DSA is more in line with the "vintage" feel, so I'm going that route over DCS. I'll also be talking to Bunny about "close enough" Underwood since I know he doesn't want to do SP anymore and I don't want to set up a DBA to run a GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 07:23:48: So would I be correct to summarise that we are looking at a possible Apollo GT colour scheme, in DSA profile.

Number or Function stripe will be optional meaning - included in the base set as extras?

Number pad and ISO separate kits.

Tsangan kit likely to be a separate accessory.

Cherry legends?

Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:13:47
Trying to get things figured out with PMK since it's bloody unintuitive to sign up to set up a GB. Given the recent love for the Apollo GT 10, I think that's the one I'll be doing.

To make it more affordable, I plan on doing something a little different. Since it's a stripe set, I'll be doing a base set comprised of your Ctrl/Alt/Spacebar, Shift, Caps/Enter, and Tab/\| row and the option for a number stripe for 60% boards or a Function row strip for Tenkeyless. I'm still not sure if I'll build in the Tsangan. Sorry ISO people, but ISO will be separate, as will the numpad. I'm also debating adding a blank row to the numpad for people who have independent numpads. So, yeah, this will happen in the near future, I'm just getting stuff finalized.

Also, I'll be talking to Mkawa about using the Cherry legend.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:23:59: Please share a mockup of the Apollo GT set and subsets.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:27:50: Signature 511 or the Underwood Universal in DCS profile with Cherry font =D
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:51:59: Quote from: okwchin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 07:23:48
So would I be correct to summarise that we are looking at a possible Apollo GT colour scheme, in DSA profile.

That is looking like it's the one I'll be doing first, yes.

Quote from: okwchin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 07:23:48
Number or Function stripe will be optional meaning - included in the base set as extras?

Given the design of the set with the stripe, it makes sense to offer it as a base sent of modifier rows from Ctrl/Alt/Win/Space up to Tab and Alpha rows ZXCV to QWER. To complete the set, you'd need to buy either a TKL stripe with number row like you see in the OP or a number row stripe for full sized/TKL and 60% keyboard respectively.

Quote from: okwchin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 07:23:48
Number pad and ISO separate kits.

Yes

Quote from: okwchin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 07:23:48
Tsangan kit likely to be a separate accessory.

Yes

Quote from: okwchin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 07:23:48
Cherry legends?

Waiting to hear back from Hashbaz on that one. So far no response.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: zflamewing on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:00:49: 'm probably late to the game on this one but I'm digging Triumph , Underwood, and Princess as far as color ways. The two-tone browns with the green is just super appealing to me. I'd be more inclined toward SA or DSA for a profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:37:05: I know the profile preferences are entirely personal, but I think DSA may appeal to a wider group of people, because the taller SA may look a little out of place in small keyboards like 60%. Also DSA matches the retro style for a set like this.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:43:10: doesn;t nubbinator absolutely hate SA?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:47:00: Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:43:10
doesn;t nubbinator absolutely hate SA?

Hate is putting it mildly. If there were a word stronger than abhor, despise, or execrate, I would use it to describe my feeling toward SA. SA is anathema to me.

And like ideus said, DSA generally holds wider appeal than SA, though the last few SA sets have done well. I'd be okay with DCS also, but I think DSA fits the retro feel better.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Wed, 30 April 2014, 00:48:19: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:47:00
Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:43:10
doesn;t nubbinator absolutely hate SA?

Hate is putting it mildly. If there were a word stronger than abhor, despise, or execrate, I would use it to describe my feeling toward SA. SA is anathema to me.

And like ideus said, DSA generally holds wider appeal than SA, though the last few SA sets have done well. I'd be okay with DCS also, but I think DSA fits the retro feel better.

This set in DCS certainly could look good, but agree that DSA fits this theme better.

If cherry font is not happening, what would the next option be. I am not too fussed, and both large font, or something clean would work well for this theme.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 24 May 2014, 03:42:52: Haven't heard about this in while. Any new info?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 May 2014, 10:36:48: I'm going to wait a little longer. There are too many GBs going on at PMK right now. I do want to move forward with it though. I was also hoping someone might help with some custom legends for the set, but haven't gotten any ideas or help.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 24 May 2014, 22:16:33: Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 24 May 2014, 10:36:48
I'm going to wait a little longer. There are too many GBs going on at PMK right now. I do want to move forward with it though. I was also hoping someone might help with some custom legends for the set, but haven't gotten any ideas or help.

Okay, makes sense.

If I knew how to help you with the legends I would. Hopefully someone will come forward.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Sun, 25 May 2014, 02:21:09: Ooh, all of these look excellent. Would definitely be interested in some DSAs.

Do you think windowed caps & scroll locks would be a possibility?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Heliosphere on Tue, 27 May 2014, 23:31:52: I really like the Apollo and Underwood colorways. Since I only recently started getting more into keycap sets, I'm glad I found this IC before a GB started. Can't wait to see the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: esko997 on Tue, 27 May 2014, 23:34:46: Very interested in the Triumph De Jur Perfekt set, regardless of profile (though SA would be awesome!). These look amazing Nubbinator!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 28 May 2014, 02:44:12: Do you have a rough estimate on when we might move forward with these key sets?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Cods on Mon, 09 June 2014, 05:28:46: Quite keen on:
1. Princess 300
2. Smith Corona
3. Royal Apollo GT
4. Underwood Universal

Understand that colour matching may mean Apollo GT gets up first in DSA, and am in for a set of those.

If the lighter sets (Princess & Smith Corona) have a chance of happening, they'd be great!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:15:37: What's the status on this?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:21:46: Quote from: Kakkun on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:15:37
What's the status on this?

Soon TM
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 14 June 2014, 03:20:08: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:21:46
Quote from: Kakkun on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:15:37
What's the status on this?

Soon TM

Great news :thumb:

Been waiting on these.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Sat, 14 June 2014, 05:43:00: Excited to see an apollo come to light.

Forgot to ask, or couldn't find if we were thinking PBT or ABS with this production? Obviously, PBT would be awesome as it would hopefully allow the key set to last as long as the typewriters these were based on. Maybe if I were better at colour codes, I could interpret what material it was.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:10:03: Loving these
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: IonutZ on Sat, 14 June 2014, 11:26:47: Royal Apollo GT 10! I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 01 July 2014, 21:57:21: Submitted the Royal Apollo GT 10 set for approval on PMK, so we'll see how long it takes to get it up and running and if I have to adjust anything. Hopefully I didn't forget anything in any of the sets.

These are what I submitted. Note, legend size is off a little and I'm not sure the laurel will be able to be cut, but we'll see.

Base set:

(http://i.imgur.com/nfhU3vB.png)

60% Stripe:

(http://i.imgur.com/QO2N6ZD.png)

Tenkeyless stripe

(http://i.imgur.com/yF69xlk.png)

Numpad

(http://i.imgur.com/eJvCAD6.png)

Tsangan

(http://i.imgur.com/Wxymvwo.png)

I decided to go with stripes in the hope that it ends up making things cheaper and lets you buy the sets you want. I deliberated on the Tsangan, but the more I looked at it, the harder time I had including it in the base set since it basically made the base a full 60% set in numbers of keys in it.

And so you remember the colors and the inspiration:

(http://i.imgur.com/PVAFTBa.jpg)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/tOgqiEr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/O0gbS1B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NCwC5C2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 01 July 2014, 21:59:41: Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 01 July 2014, 21:57:21
Submitted the Royal Apollo GT 10 set for approval on PMK, so we'll see how long it takes to get it up and running and if I have to adjust anything. Hopefully I didn't forget anything in any of the sets.

These are what I submitted. Note, legend size is off a little and I'm not sure the laurel will be able to be cut, but we'll see.

Base set:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nfhU3vB.png)

60% Stripe:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QO2N6ZD.png)

Tenkeyless stripe

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yF69xlk.png)

Numpad

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eJvCAD6.png)

Tsangan

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Wxymvwo.png)

Very cool Nubbs. I like the font like that. I hope it can be done that way on DSA.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:01:29: Great job. It looks very tempting.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:33:39: I'll definitely get the parts for a tkl keyboard.
A couple requests though:
Will Win8 keycaps be possible?
What about a stepped caps lock?

Anyways, this is awesome! Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:38:25: Don't forget to let us know what Profile you will select, PLEASE don't make it another DCS version (too many already) ::) .
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:41:18: Quote from: Kakkun on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:33:39
I'll definitely get the parts for a tkl keyboard.
A couple requests though:
Will Win8 keycaps be possible?
What about a stepped caps lock?

Anyways, this is awesome! Thanks!

I was planning on sticking with the older winkey. It's a DSA set, I don't think there's such a thing as a DSA stepped caps.

Quote from: Elrick on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:38:25
Don't forget to let us know what Profile you will select, PLEASE don't make it another DCS version (too many already) ::) .

DSA. I felt that DSA works best with the concept of this set. I hate SA and DCS just doesn't fit the "vintage" concept.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:41:27: Quote from: Kakkun on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:33:39
I'll definitely get the parts for a tkl keyboard.
A couple requests though:
Will Win8 keycaps be possible?
What about a stepped caps lock?

Anyways, this is awesome! Thanks!

God I pray this set doesn't come with the win8 logo.

Quote from: Elrick on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:38:25
Don't forget to let us know what Profile you will select, PLEASE don't make it another DCS version (too many already) ::) .

~~Dubbs~~ Nubbs mentioned a while back that he will probably go with DSA to fit the more retro look.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:42:44: And no Win 8 logo, I megaloathe it and I don't think it fits the set.

Nubs, not dubs ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:47:15: Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:42:44
And no Win 8 logo, I megaloathe it and I don't think it fits the set.

Nubs, not dubs ;)

Sorry typo.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:58:38: Oh yeah, my bad about the caps key. And no problem with the old style win keys. I'll be using the decorative ones anyways.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Wed, 02 July 2014, 01:00:25: Thats a nice yellow.
Couple questions I would like to ask;

1) The legends, they will be noticeably larger than whats on the mockup as you mentioned

2) Are the location of the legends representative of the product? top left corner for both alphas and modifiers?

3) Meaning that we are not going for large centred text as in the original type writer that this is inspired by?

4) what sort of MOQs can we reasonably target? obviously larger MOQs mean lower starting prices, but larger MOQs increase risk of failure. Seems that GBs right now are very tricky to realise, and even a poll indicating commitment does not convert into real purchases. I know this is not something that is as simple as simply throwing out a number. Hindsight helps.. :)

And finally, I do agree on holding back on the GBs for a little while, the over saturation of failing GBs is not a good case for bringing your one up right now. As much as I would like to have a set right away.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 02 July 2014, 01:10:10: Quote from: okwchin on Wed, 02 July 2014, 01:00:25
Thats a nice yellow.
Couple questions I would like to ask;

1) The legends, they will be noticeably larger than whats on the mockup as you mentioned

2) Are the location of the legends representative of the product? top left corner for both alphas and modifiers?

3) Meaning that we are not going for large centred text as in the original type writer that this is inspired by?

I thought that as well since he provided a pic showing a Royal Apollo GT with it's keys showing clearly super LARGE graphics on the keys (that look more like SA than DSA, just saying).

I think what he has done now was to make the current 'key-set' into a Korean Style (nothing wrong with that) with super tiny legends throughout.

Would like to know why he went this way instead of sticking with the true typewriter style that he seemed so originally, transfixed with :-[ ?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Wed, 02 July 2014, 01:11:52: It could be that the mockup he used was not aimed to demonstrate legends, but only the colour? Heres hoping.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 08:49:57: Legends will be Cherry legends. I asked in the poll what people wanted and it was split between Cherry legends and large and centered with Cherry legends eking out a small lead, so I went with that.

MOQ is set at 25, how many people will buy the set is not something I can predict.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 03 July 2014, 23:56:48: Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 08:49:57
Legends will be Cherry legends. I asked in the poll what people wanted and it was split between Cherry legends and large and centered with Cherry legends eking out a small lead, so I went with that.

MOQ is set at 25, how many people will buy the set is not something I can predict.

If it looks RIGHT then people will come :thumb: . The colour is nice hence don't worry about it, just concentrate on the Legend Placement upon each key surface.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Fri, 04 July 2014, 05:31:47: Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 08:49:57
Legends will be Cherry legends. I asked in the poll what people wanted and it was split between Cherry legends and large and centered with Cherry legends eking out a small lead, so I went with that.

MOQ is set at 25, how many people will buy the set is not something I can predict.

All reasonable and logical answers, lets see how we go :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 04 July 2014, 12:36:27: Looked at it more and decided to go back to large and centered. I'm waiting on SP to contact me so I can discuss it with them and update the pictures. Here's updated pics:

(http://i.imgur.com/poveln5.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/lSGntt7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/QiLbSXW.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/mLYc8QP.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/YSMldPc.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: okwchin on Sat, 05 July 2014, 12:22:30: Hope this goes well when the time is right :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 05 July 2014, 12:32:03: DSA?
Do you have any pictures of the Letters?
I would love some keycaps with big fonts in the center ...
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:17:12: Are the Laurels, Windows, and Menu keys representative of the actual design? The logos look pretty big.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 05 July 2014, 21:08:33: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 04 July 2014, 12:36:27
Looked at it more and decided to go back to large and centered. I'm waiting on SP to contact me so I can discuss it with them and update the pictures. Here's updated pics:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/poveln5.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lSGntt7.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QiLbSXW.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mLYc8QP.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YSMldPc.png)

It looks great man. Good choice :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 06 July 2014, 10:44:13: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 04 July 2014, 12:36:27
Looked at it more and decided to go back to large and centered. I'm waiting on SP to contact me so I can discuss it with them and update the pictures. Here's updated pics:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/poveln5.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lSGntt7.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QiLbSXW.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mLYc8QP.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YSMldPc.png)

Looks amazing nub. Loving the winkey design
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Cods on Thu, 10 July 2014, 06:31:13: Waiting to buy in DSA...
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 17 July 2014, 22:56:34: Alright, finally heard back from SP. It appears that the issue right now is the custom legend, something I'm not entirely able to do on my own. Here are the guidelines for a custom legend (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-VJ_zCP34bkSnEwalFhdG1oYjFQVzhpV0FxOUtuSUZQZGtN/edit). If anyone could help, that would be huge. It looks like the laurels won't happen, so I'm looking at a lyre or one of the vintage Royal Typewriter logos.

(http://i.imgur.com/wZ0FARE.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/9WRr0W4.png)

Thanks in advance if anyone can help with an SVG vector image of one or both of the above.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Enigma on Fri, 18 July 2014, 04:38:59: I saw in the OP that you were looking for someone to put up some renders for you. If nobody has done it already, I can give that a go.

The files seem to be unavailable though, if someone can point me in the right direction for them I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Fri, 18 July 2014, 17:38:16: Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 17 July 2014, 22:56:34
Alright, finally heard back from SP. It appears that the issue right now is the custom legend, something I'm not entirely able to do on my own. Here are the guidelines for a custom legend (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-VJ_zCP34bkSnEwalFhdG1oYjFQVzhpV0FxOUtuSUZQZGtN/edit). If anyone could help, that would be huge. It looks like the laurels won't happen, so I'm looking at a lyre or one of the vintage Royal Typewriter logos.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wZ0FARE.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9WRr0W4.png)

Thanks in advance if anyone can help with an SVG vector image of one or both of the above.

Did the Royal Logo. I based the dimensions on the actual logo instead of your image. Hope you don't mind.

Fore the lyre, you're going to need someone more skilled than me.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 18 July 2014, 17:56:40: Quote from: Kakkun on Fri, 18 July 2014, 17:38:16
Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 17 July 2014, 22:56:34
Alright, finally heard back from SP. It appears that the issue right now is the custom legend, something I'm not entirely able to do on my own. Here are the guidelines for a custom legend (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-VJ_zCP34bkSnEwalFhdG1oYjFQVzhpV0FxOUtuSUZQZGtN/edit). If anyone could help, that would be huge. It looks like the laurels won't happen, so I'm looking at a lyre or one of the vintage Royal Typewriter logos.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wZ0FARE.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9WRr0W4.png)

Thanks in advance if anyone can help with an SVG vector image of one or both of the above.

Did the Royal Logo. I based the dimensions on the actual logo instead of your image. Hope you don't mind.

Fore the lyre, you're going to need someone more skilled than me.

As long as it's the right size for the cap, I'm happy. They should be able to scale it themselves, but it sounds like they won't. If it pans out, your numpad or tsangan is on me.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Spopepro on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:02:28: Here's the lyre. All lines meet min spacing as I understand it. Legend should fit nicely on any profile. There is a layer with a 1" legend, and a layer with key top outlines. Let me know if any adjustments should be made.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:07:34: Quote from: Spopepro on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:02:28
Here's the lyre. All lines meet min spacing as I understand it. Legend should fit nicely on any profile. There is a layer with a 1" legend, and a layer with key top outlines. Let me know if any adjustments should be made.
Uh, could you take a look at mine? I didn't really think about sizing and line thicknesses.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Spopepro on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:18:15: Quote from: Kakkun on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:07:34
Quote from: Spopepro on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:02:28
Here's the lyre. All lines meet min spacing as I understand it. Legend should fit nicely on any profile. There is a layer with a 1" legend, and a layer with key top outlines. Let me know if any adjustments should be made.
Uh, could you take a look at mine? I didn't really think about sizing and line thicknesses.

You're golden. It comes up on mine as being 4" by 4", but I don't think it's a problem... but I don't know about SP since it sounds like they want dimensions. I'm somewhat unsure on that end.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:18:57: Colors are interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:51:38: Quote from: Spopepro on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:18:15
Quote from: Kakkun on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:07:34
Quote from: Spopepro on Fri, 18 July 2014, 21:02:28
Here's the lyre. All lines meet min spacing as I understand it. Legend should fit nicely on any profile. There is a layer with a 1" legend, and a layer with key top outlines. Let me know if any adjustments should be made.
Uh, could you take a look at mine? I didn't really think about sizing and line thicknesses.

You're golden. It comes up on mine as being 4" by 4", but I don't think it's a problem... but I don't know about SP since it sounds like they want dimensions. I'm somewhat unsure on that end.

Yeah, I don't get why they want the vector to be the exact dimension when vectors are scalable. They should ask about height or percentage of cap face.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: brybell on Mon, 21 July 2014, 02:51:26: im in looks awesome
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: daybreak365 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:32:07: Since these are vintage-style sets, I think they would look better in DSA or SA rather than DCS.

Definitely love the color schemes though!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 28 July 2014, 12:17:11: Got the e-mail from Melissa that this should go live next Monday. I'll try to get a little sig banner made up to help promote it and I'll be sure to post here, DT, and Reddit when it goes live.

It's DSA, centered font and wilk have mods with the Royal logo and the lyre (one of the symbols of Apollo). Other than the mods, it will be like the last set of pics.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:19:44: #SP Hype

Base Set:

(http://i.imgur.com/mUOuWCP.png)

60% Stripe:

(http://i.imgur.com/DaGhzdT.png)

Tenkeyless stripe

(http://i.imgur.com/5OigbXb.png)

Numpad

(http://i.imgur.com/NHdLifo.png)

Tsangan

(http://i.imgur.com/cBNviiF.png)

I decided to go with stripes in the hope that it ends up making things cheaper and lets you buy the sets you want. I deliberated on the Tsangan, but the more I looked at it, the harder time I had including it in the base set since it basically made the base a full 60% set in numbers of keys in it.

Color chit:

(http://i.imgur.com/PVAFTBa.jpg)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/tOgqiEr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/O0gbS1B.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:53:46: :thumb: I can get behind that. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:55:32: SWEET!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:56:39: Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:19:44
#SP Hype

Base Set:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mUOuWCP.png)

60% Stripe:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/DaGhzdT.png)

Tenkeyless stripe

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5OigbXb.png)

Numpad

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NHdLifo.png)

Tsangan

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/cBNviiF.png)

I decided to go with stripes in the hope that it ends up making things cheaper and lets you buy the sets you want. I deliberated on the Tsangan, but the more I looked at it, the harder time I had including it in the base set since it basically made the base a full 60% set in numbers of keys in it.

Color chit:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PVAFTBa.jpg)

More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tOgqiEr.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/O0gbS1B.jpg)

Looks good. How many days will the GB run for?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:58:20: I think I was planning on 30 days, maybe a little longer. I already forgot what I set it up at.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 30 July 2014, 09:01:21: This set is absolutely beautiful Nub! Looking forward to getting a set.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Cods on Mon, 04 August 2014, 15:34:39: I saw on Reddit that this was live on the SP PMK site... and it kinda is.
There's a link to it on the top of the Group Buy page, and a page that comes up when you click that link... but it's empty.

I know that this is an SP site issue, nubbinator, not your issue, but figured you might like to know.

Something about take my money... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 04 August 2014, 18:33:06: Quote from: Cods on Mon, 04 August 2014, 15:34:39
I saw on Reddit that this was live on the SP PMK site... and it kinda is.
There's a link to it on the top of the Group Buy page, and a page that comes up when you click that link... but it's empty.

I know that this is an SP site issue, nubbinator, not your issue, but figured you might like to know.

Something about take my money... :rolleyes:

I'll email them again. I noticed that earlier.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Kakkun on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:50:57: I wonder if someone could make renders of this to put up? Or is it too late?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:58:50: It appears that it is live and working now (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/royal-apollo-gt-10-base-set/).

Quote from: Kakkun on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:50:57
I wonder if someone could make renders of this to put up? Or is it too late?

I've been trying to get someone to do renders since the get go and get some pics up. I even tried enticing with gifts, but no one has offered.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Hanni on Tue, 05 August 2014, 10:51:30: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:58:50
I've been trying to get someone to do renders since the get go and get some pics up. I even tried enticing with gifts, but no one has offered.
What a pity :(
It could help a lot to make a decision.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: aj-kun on Tue, 05 August 2014, 14:20:41: hey nubbinator, you're gb is missing a off-center stepped caps-lock for us korean board users. any chance you can fix that?

(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/1893500430_98a06fb7_9991.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GLUgRQv.jpg)
WYSE DSA and HYPERFUSE DSA have it
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Cods on Tue, 05 August 2014, 17:17:01: I emailed SP about website issues when trying to order Royal Apollo yesterday.

Royal Apollo DSA is up right now. Purchased one of everything!
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: sonnt on Wed, 03 September 2014, 04:38:59: not reached tipping point, what a pitty
any chance we can have it run again?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Sent on Wed, 03 September 2014, 05:13:30: Nubs said they'd probably try again later.

More info here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61402.msg1458156#msg1458156).
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 16 January 2015, 22:33:06: I still haven't given up on these ideas, but since it appears DSA gets too much hate these days, I'm now wondering if people might be interested in Royale Apollo GT10 if I did SS profile instead. Let me know what you think.

More color accurate mock up of Royal Apollo GT10

(http://i.imgur.com/NeJszwW.png)

Shortcut to mockup (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23faf2c5&t=%2348524c%3B&=Esc&_x:1%3B&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&_x:0.5%3B&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&_x:0.5%3B&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_x:0.5%3B&=PrtSc&=Scroll%20Lock&=Pause%0ABreak%3B&@_y:0.5&c=%23d49a08%3B&=~%0A%60&_c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.5%3B&=Insert&=Home&=PgUp&_x:0.5%3B&=Num%20Lock&=%2F%2F&=*&=-%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&_c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.5&c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:0.5&c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=7%0AHome&=8%0A%E2%86%91&=9%0APgUp&_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&_c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&w:2.25%3B&=Enter&_x:4&c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=4%0A%E2%86%90&=5&=6%0A%E2%86%92%3B&@_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&w:2.25%3B&=Shift&_c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:1.5%3B&=%E2%86%91&_x:1.5&c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08%3B&=1%0AEnd&=2%0A%E2%86%93&=3%0APgDn&_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08&w:6.25%3B&=&_c=%23d49a08&t=%2348524c&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_x:0.5%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.5&c=%2348524c&t=%23d49a08&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel)

60% mock up:
(http://i.imgur.com/ygauQxS.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 January 2015, 00:42:02: Are all the key caps available in SS profile?
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 17 January 2015, 00:43:05: I'd have to double check with SP. Jacobulus got a full set I believe.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 17 January 2015, 02:57:48: Pardon my ignorance but what is "SS profile"?

I am familiar with DCS, DSA and SA profile from Signature Plastics, but have never heard of the above...
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 17 January 2015, 03:03:08: Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 17 January 2015, 02:57:48
Pardon my ignorance but what is "SS profile"?

I am familiar with DCS, DSA and SA profile from Signature Plastics, but have never heard of the above...

(http://i.imgur.com/TjqpVPv.jpg)

http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 17 January 2015, 03:05:35: Thanks for the fast reply :thumb:

Hmm, I am not really sure what to think of this profile. Doesn't look very comfortable to type on.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 17 January 2015, 03:07:49: Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 17 January 2015, 02:57:48
Pardon my ignorance but what is "SS profile"?

I am familiar with DCS, DSA and SA profile from Signature Plastics, but have never heard of the above...

I swear I was about to ask that :)

Then I found this
(http://i.imgur.com/LMalsj8.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:04:56: Quote from: trizkut on Sat, 17 January 2015, 03:03:08
Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 17 January 2015, 02:57:48
Pardon my ignorance but what is "SS profile"?

I am familiar with DCS, DSA and SA profile from Signature Plastics, but have never heard of the above...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TjqpVPv.jpg)

http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

SS looks like SA profile if it were terrified of me and leaning toward the back of the keyboard to get as far away from me as possible. :D

nubbinator, why do you want my keyboard to be afraid of me? :(
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:07:53: Because the number row and function row of SA suck. If you use a keyboard with a slight rake, I see SS or DSS being the best of those weird sets. I just think it could be fun to do something we haven't done before.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:14:54: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:07:53
Because the number row and function row of SA suck. If you use a keyboard with a slight rake, I see SS or DSS being the best of those weird sets. I just think it could be fun to do something we haven't done before.

Oh I'm totally with ya there. I will support the endeavor, I just thought it looked kinda adorable that the keycaps are tilted. ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: engicoder on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:35:40: I would support this if it will be SS; we need to get a set of these in people's hands and get some opinions on it. Hey if this colorway doesn't work, maybe I'll roll my adult only ILSA SHE-WOLF OF THE SS set :p
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:37:04: Im not sure why I havent seen this before now, but if it means anything that Royal Apollo colorway is sweet :p
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 20 January 2015, 01:56:18: The Princess 300 colourway appeals to me the most.

I'd love to see a GB for a set in SS profile! I really love contoured SA profile when used on a very flat keyboard (how I use mine), but I think SS will work well on more angled boards and the keytop heights and angles match what people are used to (Cherry, DCS and OEM profile).
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Cods on Thu, 22 January 2015, 01:44:08: I'm also a bigger fan of Princess, but would be interested enough in trying SS profile that I'd go for it in Royal Apollo. Put it up, I'm in!

Oddly, I used to like both how DSA looks and how it is to type on, but this week I replaced SA (Nuclear Data - all Row 3 SA) with DSA (Granite R2) on my FC660M and I'm making heaps of typing errors. I'm going to switch back to SA and see if that fixes things for me. YMMV. Not bandwagon jumping with the DSA 'hate', as I've not really been very active reading GH lately, and was unaware of it until I saw nubbinator's comment above.
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: morpheus on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:16:18: I would totally go for the Royal Apollo and the Triumph De Jur Perfekt.

Also, would love to see it done by GMK ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: retainerbox on Thu, 02 April 2015, 09:46:47: I love the Princess 300 in DSA. but also, I'm in the process of finding new caps for a Planck, so more keyset options would be nice if possible... :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: ileben on Fri, 10 April 2015, 03:52:02: I'm not sure if this is still relevant or if it got necroed accidentally... April,april,january?

Anyway, I would be totally up for Princess 300 in DCS, just because i don't have that profile yet, and I don't like spherical. Also, granite legends and red Esc key please :) I would also prefer if legends were actually in a colour that contrasts the alpha keys more, like it is on the original typewriter.

EDIT: typo
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: sprit on Fri, 15 May 2015, 21:51:50: Nice! I am in for Smith Corona, Princess! Thanks for this ! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Vintage typewriter inspired cap sets
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 18 May 2015, 09:53:24: Cool to see this thread is alive. Posting For Updates.