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Title: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: obra on Mon, 06 January 2014, 21:48:44
Justin from TEX confirms to me that they have a working prototype of a 60% mechanical keyboard with a trackpoint they're developing :)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=626698797365823&set=a.590574027644967.1073741834.472792412756463&typ
e=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=626698797365823&set=a.590574027644967.1073741834.472792412756463&typ
e=1&theater)
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: demik on Tue, 07 January 2014, 23:00:56
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6573/08frontfloatinggs6.jpg)

i've lusted over this keyboard ever since i found geekhack.

original thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=4917.0
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 08:16:47
Miniguru lives!

Now here's hoping they make a bigger one for those of us who aren't fond of 60%...
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: HongKongFui on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:13:00
what are those 2 nippels at the spacebar?
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:27:09
Mini Guru Website
http://www.guru-board.com/ (http://www.guru-board.com/)
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:29:31

Quote from: demik on Tue, 07 January 2014, 23:00:56
Show Image
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6573/08frontfloatinggs6.jpg)


i've lusted over this keyboard ever since i found geekhack.

original thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=4917.0

That is a beauty.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mooswa on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:38:08
I want one!  Hopefully TrackPoint will be as good as modern Lenovo version. 
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:42:04
Quote from: HongKongFui on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:13:00
what are those 2 nippels at the spacebar?
Left and right click. They activate when you press the spacebar down
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: justin.wu on Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:09:06
Quote from: demik on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:42:04
Quote from: HongKongFui on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:13:00
what are those 2 nippels at the spacebar?
Left and right click. They activate when you press the spacebar down

Next week we will show more high resolution picture , our keyboard is a little different miniguru :)

Please wait & see :)
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:47:03
Quote from: justin.wu on Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:09:06
Quote from: demik on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:42:04
Quote from: HongKongFui on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:13:00
what are those 2 nippels at the spacebar?
Left and right click. They activate when you press the spacebar down

Next week we will show more high resolution picture , our keyboard is a little different miniguru :)

Please wait & see :)

I am always interested in new keyboard developments. and (as always) the engineering that goes into making them. I hope tex can do it again!

can't wait.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: demik on Thu, 09 January 2014, 00:24:08
Quote from: justin.wu on Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:09:06
Quote from: demik on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:42:04
Quote from: HongKongFui on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:13:00
what are those 2 nippels at the spacebar?
Left and right click. They activate when you press the spacebar down

Next week we will show more high resolution picture , our keyboard is a little different miniguru :)

Please wait & see :)

cool, can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: bbl on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:42:02
Is it a wireless or a wired keyboard? 

What options do you have on the switch, says, MX Brown?
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: terran5992 on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:52:29
Do people really use trackpoint these few days?
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:48:12
Quote from: terran5992 on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:52:29
Do people really use trackpoint these few days?

Avid trackpoint users will tell you how good and accurate it is compared to touchpad(s). I personally have always used mouse + keyboard, but I can see this design being extremely convenient when you don't have space to use a mouse.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 09 January 2014, 04:02:58
Very interested in this. With the Matias 60% coming and now this, 2014 is going to be an interesting year.

I much prefer the Trackpoint nub to a touchpad. More accurate and easier to reach. It takes less space, too :)
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 09 January 2014, 04:11:26
Quote from: terran5992 on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:52:29
Do people really use trackpoint these few days?
Absolutely! It's the best pointing device ever!
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: developej on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:41:02
If there are dedicated arrow keys, I'm gonna cry
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Britney Spears on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:20:37
Quote from: developej on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:41:02
If there are dedicated arrow keys, I'm gonna cry
+1
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mrmillsy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:31:40
Are or aren't?

Arrow keys are the tits.  I use them far more often than those other wastrels - right ctrl/shift/alt, menu, and - the worst offender! - caps lock.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:33:24
I really really really like this. I love 60% boards in general but this is lovely.

The inclusion of a trackpoint is great for laptop users, and the colour combinations this site offers look awesome. I may have to get one in that Red Alert colour scheme for playing RTS games on the move... And I've only just noticed those mouse buttons - those are seriously cool.

I also like the fact you can connect it to the power if you need a hub.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:33:47
Quote from: developej on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:41:02
If there are dedicated arrow keys, I'm gonna cry

Tears of joy, right? :))
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mrmillsy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:35:52
I think I've only ever used that section of the keyboard for the occasional typing of € (alt gr).
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: justin.wu on Fri, 10 January 2014, 12:55:16
Standard US ASCII layout !!

don't cry !!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: mrmillsy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:31:40
Are or aren't?

Arrow keys are the tits.  I use them far more often than those other wastrels - right ctrl/shift/alt, menu, and - the worst offender! - caps lock.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mooswa on Fri, 10 January 2014, 13:30:17
Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:48:12
Quote from: terran5992 on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:52:29
Do people really use trackpoint these few days?

Avid trackpoint users will tell you how good and accurate it is compared to touchpad(s). I personally have always used mouse + keyboard, but I can see this design being extremely convenient when you don't have space to use a mouse.

To me, trackpoint to touchpad is what vim home row navigation to dedicated cursor keys.  After some learning curve, the need imposed by latter to move hand away for such pervasive task as navigation just feels silly.

Having said that, not all trackpoints are created equal.  Love Lenovo, hate Dell; Endura pro's trackpont was also a let-down.

Let's hope this board's trackpoint is as good as Lenovo; the board is fully programmable (to put arrow keys on any home row combo WASD, ESDF, HJKL, IJKL) and has no silly dedicated cursor keys. ;D  That would be my money-is-no-object-keyboard-nirvana.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: developej on Fri, 10 January 2014, 16:04:36
You said it, bro
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 January 2014, 16:17:55
If you make mini with trackpoint that is bluetooth... you will have a killer for a tablet keyboard.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mooswa on Fri, 10 January 2014, 17:46:32
...and for HTPC keyboard.  I can see that thing fitting nicely on my coffee table.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: developej on Sun, 19 January 2014, 08:26:28
so...any news? 'next week' is over and we didn't get more pictures!
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: developej on Sun, 19 January 2014, 10:11:41
i don't know what to think :D
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 19 January 2014, 10:13:17
here's some more info here for tex's new board in case anyone finds this thread first

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53669.0
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 19 January 2014, 10:47:33
I suppose the TrackPoint works with a Mac since your photo is showing one.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 January 2014, 10:54:15
Do keyboard with trackpoint not disturb...
what it is convenient?
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mooswa on Sun, 19 January 2014, 11:15:12
Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 January 2014, 10:54:15
Do keyboard with trackpoint not disturb...
what it is convenient?

Yes ...
buy replacing it with something even more convenient ?
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 January 2014, 11:27:14
Quote from: mooswa on Sun, 19 January 2014, 11:15:12
Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 January 2014, 10:54:15
Do keyboard with trackpoint not disturb...
what it is convenient?

Yes ...
buy replacing it with something even more convenient ?
i don't think others :rolleyes: Trackpoint+symmetrical i think suitable
because have loose position in the middle :)
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: ricercar on Sun, 19 January 2014, 11:46:33
Now that's a new idea; using cherry switches for the trackpoint clickers. I'm sold.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: bueller on Sun, 19 January 2014, 12:22:16
Quote from: ricercar on Sun, 19 January 2014, 11:46:33
Now that's a new idea; using cherry switches for the trackpoint clickers. I'm sold.

I'm not so sure it's a great idea, MX switches have far higher travel than usual mouse buttons. I think it would lead to fatigue over time.
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:01:24
Spacebar is the most used "character" in any language. I don't believe that having 3 extra thumb buttons would make a difference for your thumb!
Title: Re: 60% with Trackpoint
Post by: mooswa on Sun, 19 January 2014, 15:35:39
Quote from: bueller on Sun, 19 January 2014, 12:22:16
Quote from: ricercar on Sun, 19 January 2014, 11:46:33
Now that's a new idea; using cherry switches for the trackpoint clickers. I'm sold.

I'm not so sure it's a great idea, MX switches have far higher travel than usual mouse buttons. I think it would lead to fatigue over time.

May be with thick thick o-rings it will be ok?