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Title: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:05:54
I see a lot of people here and other sites say that clears are the best for programming. Why is that?
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: demik on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:07:14
proof of people saying this?
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:08:00
A lot of people say Blues are for typing. Doesn't stop me from playing games on them. It's just personal preference.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:09:13
I see a lot of people here and other sites say that clears are the best for programming. Why is that?

Just best for any kind of typing "imo" due to the tactile feedback. This is why they're horrible for gaming, again "imo".

It's just personal preference.

^ This

Edit - Awww I totally thought this was page 2 of the ergo clear thread :(
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: demik on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:09:48
A lot of people say Blues are for typing. Doesn't stop me from playing games on them. It's just personal preference.

you're still typing tho.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:11:35
Probably because they feel great to type on but not continuous typing, like for long essays, rather for something with intermissions.  That's because bottoming out on them is tougher than on lighter switches, but the actuation force is fairly light.  So doing bursts of typing is not very tiring, especially if you don't bottom out, whereas continuous typing might be fatiguing.  I definitely like stock Clears a lot for general purpose typing of intermittent sort.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:26:35
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Guillairmo on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:29:15
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

I agree.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:51:16
Probably because they feel great to type on but not continuous typing, like for long essays, rather for something with intermissions.  That's because bottoming out on them is tougher than on lighter switches, but the actuation force is fairly light.  So doing bursts of typing is not very tiring, especially if you don't bottom out, whereas continuous typing might be fatiguing.  I definitely like stock Clears a lot for general purpose typing of intermittent sort.

Ok thank you. Seemed like people just like them more but didn't know the reason why.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:52:26
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

They don't give you special coding powers, like if you paint your calipers red you get +20hp?
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:56:44
You know what else is good for programming? Keyboards. :D
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:57:42
You know what else is good for programming? Keyboards. :D

I also heard if they are connected to a computer they work even better!
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: tbc on Mon, 13 January 2014, 22:59:42
that's bull.  don't hate on wireless :p
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: kolonelkadat on Mon, 13 January 2014, 23:47:55
People have often wondered what mx switch was best for programming. An intuitive approach to overcome this quagmire is the evaluation of systems. The design of clear switches is such that they have an increased coefficient of inductive coupling. Despite the fact that futurists continuously hypothesize the exact opposite, clear switches depend on this property for correct behavior. To mitigate issues caused by inductive coupling, keyboards such as the code keyboard will often include special capacitors known as "decoupling capacitors." At the peak of inrush current, these decoupling capacitors will excite electrons with a spin of s=1/2.  These electrons then induce a magnetic dipole moment which interacts with the typists own neural network, locking the spin of the neural electrons to Sn=(1/2)-. The notion that electrons interact with the synthesis of simulated annealing is always considered theoretical. Whether electron spin lock will have a net positive or net negative impact on the subjects brain waves tends to follow a gaussian distribution.  Although, these unstable experimental results could be caused by gaussian electromagnetic disturbances in our mobile telephones. Certainly, this is a direct result of the analysis of extreme programming.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: joneslee85 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 23:53:16
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

I agree. Honestly, I hate those marketers who try to create hype

For example, the all awesome Das Keyboard with blank keys or the CODE keyboard for programmers.

To me, buy the switch testers, or borrow your friends's and see if you like the switch or not. For my personal pref, I like Red for programming
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Mon, 13 January 2014, 23:53:54
People have often wondered what mx switch was best for programming. An intuitive approach to overcome this quagmire is the evaluation of systems. The design of clear switches is such that they have an increased coefficient of inductive coupling. Despite the fact that futurists continuously hypothesize the exact opposite, clear switches depend on this property for correct behavior. To mitigate issues caused by inductive coupling, keyboards such as the code keyboard will often include special capacitors known as "decoupling capacitors." At the peak of inrush current, these decoupling capacitors will excite electrons with a spin of s=1/2.  These electrons then induce a magnetic dipole moment which interacts with the typists own neural network, locking the spin of the neural electrons to Sn=(1/2)-. The notion that electrons interact with the synthesis of simulated annealing is always considered theoretical. Whether electron spin lock will have a net positive or net negative impact on the subjects brain waves tends to follow a gaussian distribution.  Although, these unstable experimental results could be caused by gaussian electromagnetic disturbances in our mobile telephones. Certainly, this is a direct result of the analysis of extreme programming.

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Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Mon, 13 January 2014, 23:54:46
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

I agree. Honestly, I hate those marketers who try to create hype

For example, the all awesome Das Keyboard with blank keys or the CODE keyboard for programmers.

To me, buy the switch testers, or borrow your friends's and see if you like the switch or not. For my personal pref, I like Red for programming

Do you know any testers that have clear switch's. Can only find ones with red,blue,black,brown,green.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 13 January 2014, 23:55:46
CM has one:

http://www.cmstore-usa.com/mechanical-key-switch-demo-board/
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 00:00:10
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?
I agree too.
Personally, I think the stock Clear should be only used for POS system.
It should not be used for any coding.
Ergo Clear is ok but not stock Clear please  :'(
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 January 2014, 00:06:39
where did you hear this?!?!?!
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: funkymeeba on Tue, 14 January 2014, 00:21:53
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?
I agree too.
Personally, I think the stock Clear should be only used for POS system.
It should not be used for any coding.
Ergo Clear is ok but not stock Clear please  :'(

I beg to differ! I love my stock clears for programming. Hell, I love them for everything.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 14 January 2014, 00:25:29
Team Stock Clears, assemble!

No but really, some notions tend to get very exaggerated.  There's nothing wrong with typing on stock Clears--it's really not that tough, especially if you don't bottom out--which is not too difficult on Clears.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: sClass on Tue, 14 January 2014, 00:49:35
CM has one:

http://www.cmstore-usa.com/mechanical-key-switch-demo-board/

Thank you. Will have to pick this up.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 14 January 2014, 02:05:56
Team Stock Clears, assemble!

No but really, some notions tend to get very exaggerated.  There's nothing wrong with typing on stock Clears--it's really not that tough, especially if you don't bottom out--which is not too difficult on Clears.

are people that hate stock clears also people that always bottom out?  cause i could see where the hate is coming from then
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 14 January 2014, 02:37:35
What.... who says this...    NO ONE has ever said this... LIES..
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:24:27
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

^^ this

Although I loved clears before that was a thing.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Comment on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:49:50
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

^^ this

Although I loved clears before that was a thing.
Hipster Spamray in da house!
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:53:25
Hype surrounding Code keyboard?

^^ this

Although I loved clears before that was a thing.
Hipster Spamray in da house!

HiPsTeRaY?
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:44:58
Team Stock Clears, assemble!

No but really, some notions tend to get very exaggerated.  There's nothing wrong with typing on stock Clears--it's really not that tough, especially if you don't bottom out--which is not too difficult on Clears.

are people that hate stock clears also people that always bottom out?  cause i could see where the hate is coming from then

Why use more force than you have to?  :p
Seems like if you had enough finesse to not bottom out, you'd probably want the lighter ergo-clear anyways. Want to try them out sometime personally.
Title: Re: Why do people say that clear switchs are for programming?
Post by: keymaster on Wed, 15 January 2014, 14:14:54
As others have pointed out, it's mostly preference. If you find MX Clears comfortable/satisfying to type code on, then it's "great" for programming -- for you. It also depends on your typing style, whether you bottom-out or not.

People have often wondered what mx switch was best for programming. An intuitive approach to overcome this quagmire is the evaluation of systems. The design of clear switches is such that they have an increased coefficient of inductive coupling. Despite the fact that futurists continuously hypothesize the exact opposite, clear switches depend on this property for correct behavior. To mitigate issues caused by inductive coupling, keyboards such as the code keyboard will often include special capacitors known as "decoupling capacitors." At the peak of inrush current, these decoupling capacitors will excite electrons with a spin of s=1/2.  These electrons then induce a magnetic dipole moment which interacts with the typists own neural network, locking the spin of the neural electrons to Sn=(1/2)-. The notion that electrons interact with the synthesis of simulated annealing is always considered theoretical. Whether electron spin lock will have a net positive or net negative impact on the subjects brain waves tends to follow a gaussian distribution.  Although, these unstable experimental results could be caused by gaussian electromagnetic disturbances in our mobile telephones. Certainly, this is a direct result of the analysis of extreme programming.

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