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Title: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: DevAndy on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:36:58
Which one do you prefer and most importantly, a unique reason why?
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:41:48
TypeRacer because it's **** you might reasonably type. Higher likelihood of complex words and symbols as well.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:43:26
yeah typeracer is better for a real-world typing speed

10fastfingers is cow house that then orange house tomato
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: xredman on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:44:04
I like to use 10FastFingers because I don't feel too pressured to win. 10FastFingers allows me to type freely without screwing up my WPM.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: DevAndy on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:49:41
The thing is I feel 10FastFingers has more accurate speed as it begins once you start typing. Also for practising the tests are amazing (most used words)
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: Idontkno on Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:13:57
I like to show my friends my score on 10fastfingers, but the truth is that typeracer is much more accurate. You don't use any punctuation in 10ff and the words are always the same, resulting in usually faster WPM on 10FF

My example

10fastfingers.com
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(http://puu.sh/6pK2T.png)

typeracer.com (relatively easy first time)
(http://puu.sh/6pJCk.png)
(http://puu.sh/6pJRx.png)

take a few tests on both sites, I'd say my real wpm is probably around 91-92 based off of these.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: Beca on Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:25:17
only reason i prefer 10fastfingers over typeracer is because it's impossible for me to type the numbers reasonably fast.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:51:43
yeah typeracer is better for a real-world typing speed

10fastfingers is cow house that then orange house tomato

A+++++
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 18 January 2014, 18:01:55
yeah typeracer is better for a real-world typing speed

10fastfingers is cow house that then orange house tomato

A+++++

Nuh..uhn....


10 fast fingers helps you practice quick key roll memorizations and burst rhythm..


typeracer helps you with some basic punctuation practice, and stream processing...


to type fast .... in the real world...   BOTH skill sets are required...

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Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: davkol on Sat, 18 January 2014, 18:45:27
keyhero.com I'm not a fan of Flash, but that website lets review your typos and shows a nice graph of speed.
Otherwise, I practice at 10fastfingers.
No Type Racer for me, the racing part is too abtrusive IMO.
Oh, and I like hi-games.net as well, because its quotes are quite funny and again, it records typing and I can go back to the mistakes I'd made.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: eddie on Sat, 18 January 2014, 18:56:16
10fastfingers all the way! It makes me feel better about myself because I get higher typing speeds while using it versus typeracer.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 18 January 2014, 19:23:53
10fastfingers all the way! It makes me feel better about myself because I get higher typing speeds while using it versus typeracer.

LOLOL...

you can get pretty fast speeds on typeracer too... just practice the same passage 3-4 times each time you play under "practice" mode... rather than racing..

the racing part doesn't really mean much... because the distribution statistics is already in place.. which means it's pointless to put yourself through it...  you already know exactly where you are with respect to other players, you don't need to race them to find that out...
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 18 January 2014, 19:24:37
keyhero.com I'm not a fan of Flash, but that website lets review your typos and shows a nice graph of speed.
Otherwise, I practice at 10fastfingers.
No Type Racer for me, the racing part is too abtrusive IMO.
Oh, and I like hi-games.net as well, because its quotes are quite funny and again, it records typing and I can go back to the mistakes I'd made.

don't play the racing part on typeracer.. it's not time-efficient.. cuz you have to wait 4-9 seconds for the race bracket to fill up..

Just play the practice mode..
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: DevAndy on Sat, 18 January 2014, 19:41:34
Well, just got premium membership for TR. :)
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: Reomero on Sat, 18 January 2014, 19:44:18
TypeRacer is more accurate to showing your WPM in the "real world" because you type passages of text with full punctuation instead of a string of random (easy?) words which reoccur often.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: Linkbane on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:05:23
Typeracer is generally more accurate, but there are pretty stupid passages with an overabundance of numbers. That, and the sometimes ridiculously inflated high scores (Jack getting >200 wpm, for instance, on a very short passage) which are completely inaccurate. While I feel 10FF is slightly inflated, it does help you type words very quickly, which is important for increasing speed overall, and it doesn't have a particularly wide range of results.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 19 January 2014, 01:38:29
keyhero.com I'm not a fan of Flash, but that website lets review your typos and shows a nice graph of speed.
Otherwise, I practice at 10fastfingers.
No Type Racer for me, the racing part is too abtrusive IMO.
Oh, and I like hi-games.net as well, because its quotes are quite funny and again, it records typing and I can go back to the mistakes I'd made.

don't play the racing part on typeracer.. it's not time-efficient.. cuz you have to wait 4-9 seconds for the race bracket to fill up..

Just play the practice mode..

Does it record stats including accuracy then?
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 January 2014, 03:02:54
keyhero.com I'm not a fan of Flash, but that website lets review your typos and shows a nice graph of speed.
Otherwise, I practice at 10fastfingers.
No Type Racer for me, the racing part is too abtrusive IMO.
Oh, and I like hi-games.net as well, because its quotes are quite funny and again, it records typing and I can go back to the mistakes I'd made.

don't play the racing part on typeracer.. it's not time-efficient.. cuz you have to wait 4-9 seconds for the race bracket to fill up..

Just play the practice mode..

Does it record stats including accuracy then?

who cares...   You know when you made a mistake.. and  over 10 rounds.. if you feel you've made less mistakes than the last 10 rounds... hurray you've improved...

don't worry about stats...   Just hit the deck typing.... (http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/furball-panda-emoticon-6.gif)


but I think it give you speed.. and the premium account probably gives you a better record of stuff..
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 19 January 2014, 03:15:04
I *do* care, because that's the point of using those sites for me. I don't type really consciously, thus I don't know what mistakes I make in particular (e.g. if I didn't press the key enough to actuate, or if I pressed a different key instead). I just want to go back to that trigraph, focus on practicing it a bit... and the problem usually disappears.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 January 2014, 04:43:03
I *do* care, because that's the point of using those sites for me. I don't type really consciously, thus I don't know what mistakes I make in particular (e.g. if I didn't press the key enough to actuate, or if I pressed a different key instead). I just want to go back to that trigraph, focus on practicing it a bit... and the problem usually disappears.

?? 

in the txt box, the game doesn't let you advance unless you correctly type the word..

So you should know "relatively" over the course of a few runs.. how well you did...  how often you feel you got stuck up...

My point is... there are no consequences for making mistakes...  you should optimize all awareness towards getting more practice in, and doing it smoother and faster..

Which is why I find stats other than wpm, ultimately not terribly relevant..

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Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 19 January 2014, 06:02:11
There's something like error-driven learning and I don't mean the AI term, but learning from mistakes, analyzing and fixing them, whatever it's called.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: yjfknt on Sun, 19 January 2014, 06:23:28
I do both but the highest I've gotten on typeracer is 140 and it was a short easy passage. 10fastfinger is much easier.
Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:22:10
There's something like error-driven learning and I don't mean the AI term, but learning from mistakes, analyzing and fixing them, whatever it's called.

um... yes this is true... but it's more of a process intended for complex tasks..   I don't feel typing is at all extensive enough such that you can make enormous procedural mistakes, where implementing numerous stop-gap error-learning methods would help greatly.

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Title: Re: Typeracer vs 10FastFingers?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 19 January 2014, 08:48:29
There's something like error-driven learning and I don't mean the AI term, but learning from mistakes, analyzing and fixing them, whatever it's called.

um... yes this is true... but it's more of a process intended for complex tasks..   I don't feel typing is at all extensive enough such that you can make enormous procedural mistakes, where implementing numerous stop-gap error-learning methods would help greatly.

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I don't see any significant difference between typing and say interpreting music. Anyway, it has worked for me (just an experiment resulting in a ~10 wpm gain).