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Title: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: Crhis on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:54:00
Hi,

I noticed that the Topre keyboard at Verkokauppa (http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/43872/cjscv/Topre-Realforce-105UFW-White-langallinen-nappaimisto-suomenk) is significantly cheaper than the only other vendor I can find in Europe, but I'm a bit unsure about ordering. I can't find any information about the layout - presumably it's Finnish, but is that significantly different to UK/USA? Does it even matter if I just switch out the keys for a different set anyway? (if that's possible)

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: nappi11 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:12:52
It's quite close to Nordic ISO I guess. Frankly it means that standard ANSI US caps won't fit very well.

Take a look and compare:
ISO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_Kingdom.svg

ANSI:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/ANSI_Keyboard_Layout_Diagram_with_Form_Factor.svg
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 19 January 2014, 17:33:10
Topre keyboards from Verkkokauppa have Swedish/Finnish layout. Swedish is a significant minority language in Finland so they use the same layout in Finland for both languages.
It is an ISO layout that is very close to other Nordic layouts. It is somewhat close to German without the swapped Z and Y, and with different symbols next to Return and 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Sweden.svg

Compared to UK layout there are some more differences. All symbol legends and most of the shifted legends on the number row are different from UK.
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: Tisca on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:11:01
The layout is exactly as in the photo on the site. The problem with switching caps is that at least I haven't found any complete Topre ISO sets in the years I've owned one. You could always get the black model. With the black on dark grey you won't see the legends anyway so just change language in OS.
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: Hyde on Sun, 19 January 2014, 19:38:42
All white Topre !!!  Makes me wonder why they didn't do that to the US version too.

Looks so nice !  :D
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: epzy on Sun, 19 January 2014, 19:59:17
So cheap... if only it was TKL... >.>
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:02:35
Layout is Nordic ISO and very hard to find replacement keycap sets for.
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 27 January 2014, 06:59:19
Quote from: Oobly on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:02:35
Layout is Nordic ISO and very hard to find replacement keycap sets for.
Has Topre changed to use some cheap-ass multi-language "Nordic" layout now? That is usually was "Nordic ISO" means: all letters from Swedish/Finnish, Norwegian and Danish layouts printed.

The layout in the pictures is Swedish/Finnish.
Title: Re: Verkkokauppa Topre Layout
Post by: epzy on Tue, 28 January 2014, 16:04:25
Quote from: Findecanor on Mon, 27 January 2014, 06:59:19
Quote from: Oobly on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:02:35
Layout is Nordic ISO and very hard to find replacement keycap sets for.
Has Topre changed to use some cheap-ass multi-language "Nordic" layout now? That is usually was "Nordic ISO" means: all letters from Swedish/Finnish, Norwegian and Danish layouts printed.

The layout in the pictures is Swedish/Finnish.

Nope. Only Swe/Fin.