I'm not trying to cause problems or take sides, but from the evidence you have presented, it's not possible to see the actual outcome of your situation.
Perhaps AvJaB really was in the hospital, and ended up sending it slightly after those PMs.
Also it could have got lost in the mail.
the message clearly says he's in the hospital... no?
so maybe you'll get it when he gets out..?
Well... here's hoping... GLGL
the message clearly says he's in the hospital... no?
so maybe you'll get it when he gets out..?
Well... here's hoping... GLGL
the message clearly says he's in the hospital... no?
so maybe you'll get it when he gets out..?
Well... here's hoping... GLGL
the message clearly says he's in the hospital... no?
so maybe you'll get it when he gets out..?
Well... here's hoping... GLGL
His final post in the FS thread seems a bit suspect considering the PM's we've seen.Show Image(http://imgur.com/C4jmxEG.jpg)
the message clearly says he's in the hospital... no?
so maybe you'll get it when he gets out..?
Well... here's hoping... GLGL
His final post in the FS thread seems a bit suspect considering the PM's we've seen.Show Image(http://imgur.com/C4jmxEG.jpg)
How'd you get that theme?
Wow . Parcel is delivered on 26/11/2013 .
From the few PM's I had with the guy, he seemed like a total nutjob. Glad I dodged a bullet...
From the few PM's I had with the guy, he seemed like a total nutjob. Glad I dodged a bullet...
interested in looking at those PMs sir, so i know when to hit the brakes if i ever come across one! :)
I think you're all being very fast to judge, probably a logical reason tbh. I've met the guy and bought a keyboard from him myself. In fact my current Ducky was from him, he genuinely did have problems in hospital back then as I've known him in real life as well as online. Just saying.. might be fair to wait, also his point is valid, posting his public information on a public forum.. that's kinda low and shouldn't be done at all. Please at least blank out his private info (: if this was most other places you'd get in trouble for that as it's pretty bad. Seen it removed here as well before.
Not you :P you're fine but others pointed out oh scam bla bla bla. There is something that needs to be looked at im just saying for those that did judge fast not to :P yes his friend is Pexon PC's also. As you can see in the i51 thread talk (: that I made. I'll try talk to him later when I'm home and see if I can relay anything (:I think you're all being very fast to judge, probably a logical reason tbh. I've met the guy and bought a keyboard from him myself. In fact my current Ducky was from him, he genuinely did have problems in hospital back then as I've known him in real life as well as online. Just saying.. might be fair to wait, also his point is valid, posting his public information on a public forum.. that's kinda low and shouldn't be done at all. Please at least blank out his private info (: if this was most other places you'd get in trouble for that as it's pretty bad. Seen it removed here as well before.
No, I think if you read carefully you can see that not all of us judges him or anything.
We can't judge him actually. Like I already said in my previous post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53700.msg1199392#msg1199392
Logically, if he can post a WTS thread, he should come here to have explanation.
If you know he in real life as well as what he claimed here "my friend Pexon pc's" http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48023.msg1028083#msg1028083 you should ask him to come up with a peaceful solution to the OP.
:thumb:
You might know him in real life but it doesn't take a genius to realise he's pulling some ****. If the board really did take 2 months to arrive it would have arrived a week ago and not in November like the tracking indicates.
Illness or no, I refuse to believe anyone's memory is that bad.
Can we start a blacklist thread if there isn't one already?
List people's real names and addresses publicaly so that if your making a trade with someone who your not 100% sure with you have a list of known scammers to check it against?
As GH grows so does it's market place and I really do think that it should do something to try and combat this kind of thing from happening...
Can we start a blacklist thread if there isn't one already?
List people's real names and addresses publicaly so that if your making a trade with someone who your not 100% sure with you have a list of known scammers to check it against?
As GH grows so does it's market place and I really do think that it should do something to try and combat this kind of thing from happening...
I'm sure its only a matter of time before this thread is locked and info removed....but it would be nice to know when people have been scammed and/or who the buyers/sellers that are shady.
GH has a long memory, people don't generally come back after they've scammed someone. And posting people's info on GH is the last thing the mods would ever approve of, they'd be opening themselves up to all sorts of legal dramas.
The systems you are describing are essentially heatware. I suggest everyone tries to encourage others to use it. Sure, if people are willing to give up old reputable GH accounts, they could do the same with their heatware accs but There really isn't much else to do imo.
GH has a long memory, people don't generally come back after they've scammed someone. And posting people's info on GH is the last thing the mods would ever approve of, they'd be opening themselves up to all sorts of legal dramas.
I have a strict if you scam me, I will literally send you a package filled FILLED to the brim with spiders or cockroaches or some other ridiculously terrifying bug (I'm sorry OP this may not work for you due to customs) Their are many sites that sell crazy insects by the bulk for relatively cheap. Luckily I am yet to be scammed. Scammers beware... I got spiders for dat a$$
Sad to see this, I actually bought a board off him and got it within 2 weeks.This is what confuses me as I got mine all perfectly fine :s I almost bought this off him as well but yeah. I will try talk to him tonight as maybe theres just a mistake
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
Even scammers don't scam- all-the-time.. and even scammers have friends...Show Image(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/CBSA/smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-009.gif)
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
Even scammers don't scam- all-the-time.. and even scammers have friends...Show Image(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/CBSA/smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-009.gif)
Shots Fired!
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
Even scammers don't scam- all-the-time.. and even scammers have friends...Show Image(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/CBSA/smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-009.gif)
Shots Fired!
No? I'm not accusing anyone.. but merely indicating that SUCH scenario, is a possibility.
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
GH has a long memory, people don't generally come back after they've scammed someone. And posting people's info on GH is the last thing the mods would ever approve of, they'd be opening themselves up to all sorts of legal dramas.
What legal dramas?
GH has a long memory, people don't generally come back after they've scammed someone. And posting people's info on GH is the last thing the mods would ever approve of, they'd be opening themselves up to all sorts of legal dramas.
What legal dramas?
It could be construed as defamation of character. It might be true but if all you have is hearsay you're gonna have a rough time in court.
****ing hate scammers, how can you even tell us to not call him a scammer with all that evidence? xD
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
This guys tried to sell for $210 on GH and for $130 on DT? What was he even thinking, not like he scammed a member of these forums. Damn, the nerve of this dude...Maybe getting desperate to get rid of it?
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
your friend is a *****
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
your friend is a *****
Lets blame on CC, skull is why this happened
Didn't expect you to take it serious :))What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0)
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
your friend is a *****
Lets blame on CC, skull is why this happened
No, not really. AvJaB is such an irresponsible idiot. But if you want to blame CC, send him a PM. I'm sure he'll get a chuckle out of it.
Life is very serious!
Life is very serious!
Livin' that Clack life, baby.
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
your friend is a *****
^: more like "douche"
What the hell :)) ---------------------> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53640.0
:)) . Him is scammer . :p
Sorry pointless comments like this need to be removed. You're not contributing anything here. I also respect the OP feels he's been scammed and if he has then fair I'll admit I was wrong about Jack, but you guys posting his real info is pretty ****ty.
Okay . I'm out but pls call him reply right now . If him don't reply here . I and some people will call him is scammer !
Yes I respect that, but simply posting "him is scammer". It's not productive at all. It's also pretty bad to just judge, I respect the evidence looks pretty bad against him and even I have a tiny bit of doubt btu he's still a good friend of mine and I'll talk to him.
your friend is a *****
**** = sh1t . Right :))
/* j/k =)) .
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@Blusey : Have you talked to him yet ? .
I don't see anything wrong with a "Wall of Shame" thread. No need for real names or addresses, but screen names and other aliases will do just fine. I've personally had a little trouble with one member here that started all the way back in July of last year. I just haven't had too much time to deal with the $20 that I sent him with nothing in return.
I'd agree to it as long as there is ample proof, decided by the mods
Otherwise they can just start new accounts everywhere with a different username and still rip people off. Shame the hell out of them, I don't care, post their name and address everywhere you want. (just follow the TOS!)I don't see anything wrong with a "Wall of Shame" thread. No need for real names or addresses, but screen names and other aliases will do just fine. I've personally had a little trouble with one member here that started all the way back in July of last year. I just haven't had too much time to deal with the $20 that I sent him with nothing in return.
the real name and addresses is exactly what keeps people accountable....
post their name and address everywhere you want. (just follow the TOS!)
That is what I meant! :thumb:post their name and address everywhere you want. (just follow the TOS!)
Not on this site! They will get removed as soon as we see them or someone reports them to us. No personally identifying information, please.
I'd agree to it as long as there is ample proof, decided by the mods
"The mods" take no responsibility for any trade / buying / selling actions, as stated in the rules (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31625.0). All we do is moderate proper forum behavior and see that people follow forum rules. Threads like these don't get locked unless there's personal information posted and as long as the posts are respectful and stick with facts / personal experiences, so take it as you will :)
As far as banning people and what not--that's on a case-by-case basis, depending on various arguments.
I'd agree to it as long as there is ample proof, decided by the mods
"The mods" take no responsibility for any trade / buying / selling actions, as stated in the rules (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31625.0). All we do is moderate proper forum behavior and see that people follow forum rules. Threads like these don't get locked unless there's personal information posted and as long as the posts are respectful and stick with facts / personal experiences, so take it as you will :)
As far as banning people and what not--that's on a case-by-case basis, depending on various arguments.
I know that you don't take any responsibity in trades. But if you're going to let a wall of shame be made, then you should handcheck each person who gets on there truely deserves to get on. Even staying on there for a short period of time is bad, so making sure only the guilty get on first is the best option. And the mods should be able to approve of people to get on because they're the only ones who can be fully trusted
I'd agree to it as long as there is ample proof, decided by the mods
"The mods" take no responsibility for any trade / buying / selling actions, as stated in the rules (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31625.0). All we do is moderate proper forum behavior and see that people follow forum rules. Threads like these don't get locked unless there's personal information posted and as long as the posts are respectful and stick with facts / personal experiences, so take it as you will :)
As far as banning people and what not--that's on a case-by-case basis, depending on various arguments.
I know that you don't take any responsibity in trades. But if you're going to let a wall of shame be made, then you should handcheck each person who gets on there truely deserves to get on. Even staying on there for a short period of time is bad, so making sure only the guilty get on first is the best option. And the mods should be able to approve of people to get on because they're the only ones who can be fully trusted
If I remember he was also trying to sell that board on Bit-Tech. I don't think it ever did sell.
Edit: Yeah, he's been trying since 9th January for about $190.
The only lesson it seems is not to trust anyone and to never trade. No one is willing to do anything because that could be construed as taking responsibility of which no one seems to want, while at the same time using geekhack to promote the GB and classifieds with GH keys etc... Meh it's upto the people who run it to dictate how to run it but I think it's pretty ****ty to treat members who get caught out with little more than 'lolnothingtodowithme'
The only lesson it seems is not to trust anyone and to never trade. No one is willing to do anything because that could be construed as taking responsibility of which no one seems to want, while at the same time using geekhack to promote the GB and classifieds with GH keys etc... Meh it's upto the people who run it to dictate how to run it but I think it's pretty ****ty to treat members who get caught out with little more than 'lolnothingtodowithme'
For example...
We can Pay the mod to bounty hunt....
So, lets say we pay Moz to get Megaxpop's keyboard back.. by allowing Moz to get to keep a percentage of that recovered funds..
i think AvJab contacted tp4 and said, "hey dude i'm taking lots of heat,can you derail this thread?"
i think AvJab contacted tp4 and said, "hey dude i'm taking lots of heat,can you derail this thread?"
This is precisely the problem with Bartering..
Which is why most large trades in real life are done through a PAID-middle-man to arbitrate in case of default..
If you have his address, why don't you send British GHers to... persuade him... to give you his CC?
If you have his address, why don't you send British GHers to... persuade him... to give you his CC?
;)
If you have his address, why don't you send British GHers to... persuade him... to give you his CC?who says it's a he?
;)
You're more than welcome if YOU want to, fellow British GHer.
;)
If you have his address, why don't you send British GHers to... persuade him... to give you his CC?
Listen. Do you smell that?
It's lawyers. Thousands of them. They're gearing up to rain litigious fire down upon GH with their Birkenstock bomb sights.
If you have his address, why don't you send British GHers to... persuade him... to give you his CC?
;)
You're more than welcome if YOU want to, fellow British GHer.
;)
You're more than welcome if YOU want to, fellow British GHer.
;)
Let me go to the gym for a few more months and I'll get him...
I was joooooooking.'murica is very seeeeeerious.
You're more than welcome if YOU want to, fellow British GHer.
;)
Let me go to the gym for a few more months and I'll get him...
Manchester Reppin'!
You're more than welcome if YOU want to, fellow British GHer.
;)
Let me go to the gym for a few more months and I'll get him...
Mean streets of brum coming DOWN HARD YO
Manchester Reppin'!
You're more than welcome if YOU want to, fellow British GHer.
;)
Let me go to the gym for a few more months and I'll get him...
Mean streets of brum coming DOWN HARD YO
Following up on this thread - when this all kicked off I sent AvJaB a polite PM linking him to the thread and asking him to do the right thing, he has contacted me recently to say that he has been getting all manner of threats sent to him and says if they don't stop he will be going to the police.
He wants the thread and his account deleted but I've suggested he returns the keyboard first, he has contacted megaxpop and ensured me he will be returning the keyboard but the threats and dox'ing needs to stop in order for this to happen.
I'm going to link the mods in on the situation as well and will post here with any updates as they come in.
Ill keep it short and to the point.
There are reasons why I have not been at my computer in doing so not seen this thread/been on geekhack, recently I have come back to this and it has beeen rather overwhelming.
I have messeged an admin and mega, admin is being kept in the loop for the whole thing and I have asked mega what he would like, he said cash, the cc or his keyboard.
To clean this up quickly ill just take the cash offer for the sake of haste.
@bazh I have been unable to get on the internet due to personal reasons, thats why there has been no explanation, contact with mega etc.
I just feel a bit annoyed that so many people felt the need to say hateful things and send me messages on other forums etc without getting my side of this all.
I will be sending him money later and just want all of this to be over.
Ill keep it short and to the point.Well after reading this I still didn't got your side of things besides that you are going to pay the guy up what you owe (which is great). I am sure you have your reasons of being inactive and stuff but seeing the board went through many forums to be sold for different prices it seemed like you want to get rid of it quickly without anyone noticing. In my mind from what I read from your post is like saying: I took a car from car dealer, didn't pay for it, I tried to sell it around, no one bought it, now everyone knows the car is not payed and I am going to pay the car dealer for it just to get all of this to be over. I am not saying anything but whenever a future deal pops up and you want/might be part of it there always will be the guy that will link this thread about you, so you will be better off explaining your reasons to clear your name at least if possible.
There are reasons why I have not been at my computer in doing so not seen this thread/been on geekhack, recently I have come back to this and it has beeen rather overwhelming.
I have messeged an admin and mega, admin is being kept in the loop for the whole thing and I have asked mega what he would like, he said cash, the cc or his keyboard.
To clean this up quickly ill just take the cash offer for the sake of haste.
@bazh I have been unable to get on the internet due to personal reasons, thats why there has been no explanation, contact with mega etc.
I just feel a bit annoyed that so many people felt the need to say hateful things and send me messages on other forums etc without getting my side of this all.
I will be sending him money later and just want all of this to be over.
@bazh I have been unable to get on the internet due to personal reasons, thats why there has been no explanation, contact with mega etc.
I just feel a bit annoyed that so many people felt the need to say hateful things and send me messages on other forums etc without getting my side of this all.
I will be sending him money later and just want all of this to be over.
Ive said im not going into it, i cannot be bothered wasting more time on it when you guys clearly just want to start an argument.
Ive said im not going into it, i cannot be bothered wasting more time on it when you guys clearly just want to start an argument.
the reason i have sent him money is because he said he wanted one of the three, the keyboard, cash or the skull, for convenience and speed i have just sent him money because im sure he would rather have cash straight away.
Discussion over. money sent, im done.
I just feel a bit annoyed that so many people felt the need to say hateful things and send me messages on other forums etc without getting my side of this all.
Payment sent, debt cleared, this was between me and megaxpop, please all stop getting involved when it has nothing to do with you, im not replying anymore.