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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 January 2014, 10:22:07
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPS-DOKIU-SAVER-COSTOM-KEYBOARD-Tenkeyless-85-key-The-only-one-in-the-world-/281243389099
Not sure why no one posted this yet. ::)
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Haven't we been laughing at this for a couple of months, haven't we?
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I think someone once post it
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Haven't we been laughing at this for a couple of months, haven't we?
I thought this was a new one...doh....
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I think someone once post it
I think it's been posted twice before. The first time it was listed, the seller was asking for $800. Everytime the seller relists it he raises the price a $100 or so. Maybe there is some reverse reverse psychology at work...or perhaps it's just idiocy.
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Haven't we been laughing at this for a couple of months, haven't we?
Maybe he did a Mandolin mod. Added the SoarerSupercrystal that can withstand Richter 15 earthquakes and 500mph super typhoons. With a keyboard like that, you are guaranteed still to be typing when the end of the world comes - although you probably won't have any power to your computer, the internet would be dead, and your printer wouldn't have survived that apocalypse.
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Others threads
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52369.msg1159822#msg1159822
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50467.msg1101319#msg1101319
whereas AKiMbo just sell arround 300-400$ with same switches just not included the bag :rolleyes:
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He's declined 3 offers. I'd love to know how much the offers were for.
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I made an offer of $5 just for the lols, it got auto-declined hahaha
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Honestly, I think it's worth probably $400-$500. It does have a pristine set of SGI dye subbed keycaps. But jesus christ man, $1k+ is like a mortgage payment.
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Honestly, I think it's worth probably $400-$500. It does have a pristine set of SGI dye subbed keycaps. But jesus christ man, $1k+ is like a mortgage payment.
Yeah I mean even $600 I could understand someone paying considering the caps. But the price he's asking is nuts.
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He's declined 3 offers. I'd love to know how much the offers were for.
He declined an offer of £26.82 on 28/12/2013 04:13:01
Thats all I can find unfortuantly
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Honestly, I think it's worth probably $400-$500. It does have a pristine set of SGI dye subbed keycaps. But jesus christ man, $1k+ is like a mortgage payment.
It needs mandolin crystals to reach 1k, doesn't he know that?
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If you just want the keycaps, buy a SGI Granite.
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If you just want the keycaps, buy a SGI Granite.
SGI Granites in good condition aren't exactly the most common thing, I tried finding one when I was building my Duckmini. Even the other "common" keyboard whose caps are used in Korean customs, the Wang 724, is hard to find nowadays too.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silicon-Graphics-AT-101-SGI-Keyboard-9500900-w-S100-Mouse-DB25-Connector-/221352696754?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3389a61bb2
Make the seller an offer. Looks like you could make an adapter or mod the cable to PS/2 if you want to use the keyboard.
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If you just want the keycaps, buy a SGI Granite.
It's not just the caps. I'll attempt to break down the price:
-SGI caps in good condition ($50)
-Linear green alps switches in good condition ($100)
-Dokiu saver kit ($200)
-Keyboard case ($50)
-Time invested into building the keyboard ($75)
-Shipping ($50)
That's $525 shipped.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silicon-Graphics-AT-101-SGI-Keyboard-9500900-w-S100-Mouse-DB25-Connector-/221352696754?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3389a61bb2
Make the seller an offer. Looks like you could make an adapter or mod the cable to PS/2 if you want to use the keyboard.
While this probably qualifies as good condition, I was referring more to mint or NIB condition. With the one you linked, it clearly needs a good clean and retrobrite. PBT caps aren't immune to shine either, which isn't an easily fixable problem.
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-Time invested into building the keyboard ($75)
Are you saying that you would build (including testing, packing, and shipping) one of these for somebody for $75?
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-Time invested into building the keyboard ($75)
Are you saying that you would build (including testing, packing, and shipping) one of these for somebody for $75?
Hell no! Desoldering ALPs are a PITA. Don't get any ideas fohat!
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Honestly, I think it's worth probably $400-$500. It does have a pristine set of SGI dye subbed keycaps. But jesus christ man, $1k+ is like a mortgage payment.
Yeah I mean even $600 I could understand someone paying considering the caps. But the price he's asking is nuts.
The number of rare and valuable keyboards that I threw in the trash in the 20th century would make most geek hackers weep. The SGI got passed by a Linux box with an NVIDIA, same with the sun3 and sun4 keyboards, who uses a terminal anymore (WYSE and DEC), the Northgate Omnikey was too heavy, and how many PC/XT/AT or model M's went through my hands. You mean to tell me the key caps are worth $500?
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Honestly, I think it's worth probably $400-$500. It does have a pristine set of SGI dye subbed keycaps. But jesus christ man, $1k+ is like a mortgage payment.
Yeah I mean even $600 I could understand someone paying considering the caps. But the price he's asking is nuts.
The number of rare and valuable keyboards that I threw in the trash in the 20th century would make most geek hackers weep. The SGI got passed by a Linux box with an NVIDIA, same with the sun3 and sun4 keyboards, who uses a terminal anymore (WYSE and DEC), the Northgate Omnikey was too heavy, and how many PC/XT/AT or model M's went through my hands. You mean to tell me the key caps are worth $500?
...and the custom case, controller, and price of switches and assembly as AKIMbO outlined rather well. Caps aren't the only factor in price, but its pretty much universally agreed that this particular keyboard is way overpriced as it stands.
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I think that's too expensive...
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Hype
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double post, sorry
Since I have this space, I will also say that as a sometime seller of rare items, I get irritated by having the "peanut gallery" providing their opinions on items that they do not intend to buy.
Obviously, you might do well to buy something that was significantly underpriced in order to resell it at a profit, but the price of a unique item is sometimes quite difficult to ascertain.
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but its pretty much universally agreed that this particular keyboard is way overpriced as it stands.
I don't know who "agreed" to that. We live in a free market economy, and are watching it in action. Clearly, each poster has his own idea of what the price "should" be, but nobody is saying "I would pay $X" for it. Otherwise, they are just mouthing off.
Since Akimbo had difficulty selling a similar board at less than half the price, but did sell it, it could be surmised that his price was more realistic.
This particular keyboard is worth exactly what somebody is willing to pay for it, this week. That tipping point has not been established as it is a fixed price sale. In an auction, a current "going rate" might or might not be established, depending on how many serious buyers got involved, that week.
Why is one beat up Superman comic book worth thousands of dollars, while thousands of "similar" ones are virtually worthless?
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after that very articulate post. as well as akimbos price break down.
400$ max.
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He attended my seminar :)
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He attended my seminar :)
That would be the crystal method?
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-Time invested into building the keyboard ($75)
Are you saying that you would build (including testing, packing, and shipping) one of these for somebody for $75?
Hell no! Desoldering ALPs are a PITA. Don't get any ideas fohat!
How different is it from desoldering Cherry MX switches?
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I don't know who "agreed" to that. We live in a free market economy, and are watching it in action. Clearly, each poster has his own idea of what the price "should" be, but nobody is saying "I would pay $X" for it. Otherwise, they are just mouthing off.
Since Akimbo had difficulty selling a similar board at less than half the price, but did sell it, it could be surmised that his price was more realistic.
This particular keyboard is worth exactly what somebody is willing to pay for it, this week. That tipping point has not been established as it is a fixed price sale. In an auction, a current "going rate" might or might not be established, depending on how many serious buyers got involved, that week.
Why is one beat up Superman comic book worth thousands of dollars, while thousands of "similar" ones are virtually worthless?
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Fohat, just to address your point.
Value is not universal. It varies from person to person. The 'market value' is merely the highest price at which something on the market can be sold in a reasonable time.
If somebody believes the keyboard is worth one million dollars and is willing to pay for it, the market value is $1m at that time.
If no other similar keyboard can be sold at one million and sellers eventually ask for $100 and it sells, then market value has dropped to $100.
It is obvious to me that the market does not think highly of Model F122s, but adores and loves SSKs. The market also loves 456gt enough for this keyboard to be sold at $800+. I do not care enough for bronze to pay $300 for 456gt, let alone $800.
Am I a market? Not if other buyers get ahead of me and plunk down $800.
But if this is a severe recession and most geekhackers are out of a job and Boost is desperate to get some cash. He winds up lowering price to $200 and I step in. The market value has adjusted accordingly to $200.
Does it mean I got a good deal on something with a market value of $800? Sorry, if no one is willing to pay $800, market value at that time is not $800. Since I am the only buyer at $200, I am the market, and I got what I wanted to pay for. I didn't get a 'good deal'; I only got a 'good deal' if I'd valued 456gt at $200 and got it for $180.
That's what happens during recessions. So it is important to save your money, because when in a recession everyone's out of work and out of money, and then you can buy good stuff at lower prices.
I'm really dumb for talking all this crap and still not living up to my theories. I am really the peanut gallery.
As for SSKs, let's have another financial panic like in 2008, and prices will adjust. I think SSKs are in a bubble; let's see if people will pay even $100 for them in a severe recession when sellers desperately need cash and buyers are out of cash.
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double post, sorry
Since I have this space, I will also say that as a sometime seller of rare items, I get irritated by having the "peanut gallery" providing their opinions on items that they do not intend to buy.
Obviously, you might do well to buy something that was significantly underpriced in order to resell it at a profit, but the price of a unique item is sometimes quite difficult to ascertain.
Point taken. I was lamenting more at the stuff I've thrown out that has value now.