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Title: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 20 January 2014, 21:19:48
That is all.  Then it would be the perfect travel keyboard.  Could even use it with those giant phones known as tablets!
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 January 2014, 21:25:56
Why not wireless GH60 with HHKB  layout.

Unless you wanted topre.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 20 January 2014, 22:51:14
Bluetooth dongle plugged in the back?
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 20 January 2014, 22:53:02
Why not wireless GH60 with HHKB  layout.

Unless you wanted topre.

That seems to be not exactly right around the corner.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: Coreda on Mon, 20 January 2014, 22:56:49
Bluetooth dongle plugged in the back?

You had me excited for a moment, but then I realized you'd need to power the keyboard, too. Would make an awesome idea for a replacement case, though!
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: yasuo on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:09:25
Even,Hasu ever make HHKB bluetooth :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:56:10
http://handheldsci.com/kb
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:03:56
i choose with cable than adapter though bluetooth,adapter too big for portable :))
except mod adapeter in in the case HHKB :rolleyes:

Hasu project
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1191835#msg1191835
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/bluetooth-mod-for-hhkb-t3446-30.html?hilit=hhkb%20bluetooth
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: atlas3686 on Tue, 21 January 2014, 01:07:03
Hasu is busy with this but it's a while off, I would imagine the power issue is quite a big problem.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: tuxsavvy on Tue, 21 January 2014, 01:10:56
Apart from power comes issues with encryption (or lacking part thereof). Then there's the need to address issues whilst using bluetooth such as when keyboard is running low on power, keyboard is charging and keyboard is fully charged.

Bluetooth mod isn't exactly easy as it may seem.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 07:17:42
Why not wireless GH60 with HHKB  layout.

Unless you wanted topre.

That seems to be not exactly right around the corner.

Hey...this is geekhack....everything is right around the corner.....the never ending...corner....
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:03:00
Bluetooth has long latency times, high power requirements and tends to get into sleep mode easily within short waiting times. A usb cable bothers you that much?
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:04:05
Bluetooth has long latency times, high power requirements and tends to get into sleep mode easily within short waiting times. A usb cable bothers you that much?

Actually I despise USB cables, I prefer everything to be wireless.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:17:44
Bluetooth has long latency times, high power requirements and tends to get into sleep mode easily within short waiting times. A usb cable bothers you that much?

Actually I despise USB cables, I prefer everything to be wireless.


Of course. However, wireless makes sense for things that need to be moved when in use, most of the time, maybe a mouse. But a keyboard is in a fixed position when it is in use. I am not trying to convert you out of your preference. I just pointed a simple fact. I may think no cables makes a keyboard looks nicer, but besides that I do not see a reason to pollute the environment with more wasted batteries, or your personal space with some extra hertz of EMR. 
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:19:40
Bluetooth has long latency times, high power requirements and tends to get into sleep mode easily within short waiting times. A usb cable bothers you that much?

Actually I despise USB cables, I prefer everything to be wireless.


Of course. However, wireless makes sense for things that need to be moved when in use, most of the time, maybe a mouse. But a keyboard is in a fixed position when it is in use. I am not trying to convert you out of your preference. I just pointed a simple fact. I may think no cables makes a keyboard looks nicer, but besides that I do not see a reason to pollute the environment with more wasted batteries, or your personal space with some extra hertz of EMR. 

Well that's what I liked about the Logitech K750....solar power :D
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:22:39
Bluetooth has long latency times, high power requirements and tends to get into sleep mode easily within short waiting times. A usb cable bothers you that much?

Actually I despise USB cables, I prefer everything to be wireless.


Of course. However, wireless makes sense for things that need to be moved when in use, most of the time, maybe a mouse. But a keyboard is in a fixed position when it is in use. I am not trying to convert you out of your preference. I just pointed a simple fact. I may think no cables makes a keyboard looks nicer, but besides that I do not see a reason to pollute the environment with more wasted batteries, or your personal space with some extra hertz of EMR. 

Well that's what I liked about the Logitech K750....solar power :D

Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:30:21
I believe its too late for me to worry about EMR...I sit at a computer all day 5 or 6 days a week, use a smart phone all the time etc....
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:33:44
I believe its too late for me to worry about EMR...I sit at a computer all day 5 or 6 days a week, use a smart phone all the time etc....


OMG! your neurons are being fried by the second!!  :-X  Just like any of us. Haha! save those extra blutooth herz for just one more call a day...
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:36:21
I believe its too late for me to worry about EMR...I sit at a computer all day 5 or 6 days a week, use a smart phone all the time etc....


OMG! your neurons are being fried by the second!!  :-X  Just like any of us. Haha! save those extra blutooth herz for just one more call a day...

Honestly though I'm not a big fan of bluetooth, I don't use bluetooth anything  :-\
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:38:27
Bluetooth has long latency times, high power requirements and tends to get into sleep mode easily within short waiting times. A usb cable bothers you that much?

Filco minila has a very (very) low latency and battery life is still 50% after 2 months. I can live with that :)
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:44:07
Maybe a 2.4 GHz Wireless Technology based board then.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 21 January 2014, 11:55:41
http://handheldsci.com/kb

that's cool.  10 hours battery life is a little paltry, though.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:02:21
Yo dawg, I heard you like hacking so we made this Happy Hacking so you can get hacked while you hack on your Hacking
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:05:04
Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a PBT spacebar! :3
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:05:30
i choose with cable than adapter though bluetooth,adapter too big for portable :))
except mod adapeter in in the case HHKB ::)

Hasu project
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1191835#msg1191835 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1191835#msg1191835)
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/bluetooth-mod-for-hhkb-t3446-30.html?hilit=hhkb%20bluetooth (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/bluetooth-mod-for-hhkb-t3446-30.html?hilit=hhkb%20bluetooth)

Sounds like it would be an interesting mod though. I imagine it doesn't take too much space once you take the adapter out of the case.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: osi on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:06:14
Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a PBT spacebar! :3

+1!
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:11:51
Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a PBT spacebar! :3
crooked,f;ex :-X
just RF DK i know has pbt spacebar :)
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: hasu on Tue, 21 January 2014, 23:35:31
They know the demand for wireless HHKB greatly and had considered its development, I think. But we can't see wirelss HKKB so far.

https://twitter.com/PFU_HHKB/status/81325977711558657
"With regard to wirelessly enabled HHKB series, I feel acutely To your expectations and requests of everyone. I would like to continue to develop positively considered towards the future." - by google translate

BTW, my last BT mod had problems on latency and battery life.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 23:44:11
They know the demand for wireless HHKB greatly and had considered its development, I think. But we can't see wirelss HKKB so far.

https://twitter.com/PFU_HHKB/status/81325977711558657 (https://twitter.com/PFU_HHKB/status/81325977711558657)
"With regard to wirelessly enabled HHKB series, I feel acutely To your expectations and requests of everyone. I would like to continue to develop positively considered towards the future." - by google translate

BTW, my last BT mod had problems on latency and battery life.


I knew it.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: hasu on Tue, 21 January 2014, 23:49:40
Oh, I don't know it.
They know the demand for wireless HHKB greatly and had considered its development, I think. But we can't see wirelss HKKB so far.

https://twitter.com/PFU_HHKB/status/81325977711558657 (https://twitter.com/PFU_HHKB/status/81325977711558657)
"With regard to wirelessly enabled HHKB series, I feel acutely To your expectations and requests of everyone. I would like to continue to develop positively considered towards the future." - by google translate

BTW, my last BT mod had problems on latency and battery life.


I knew it.

Oh, I didn't know it.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:10:45
the perfect travel keyboard. 

I'd say the perfect travel keyboard would be a 40%. Much more portable than a 60%, albeit by one row.
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:14:10
the perfect travel keyboard. 

I'd say the perfect travel keyboard would be a 40%. Much more portable than a 60%, albeit by one row.
I aggre with this is 40% trackpoint+scrool wheel not expensive i think :)
40% end design of mini keyboard
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:48:21
Wireless option would be sweet...
Title: Re: Dear Manufacturers of HHKB: Make a bluetooth version.
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 22 January 2014, 02:20:25
BTW, my last BT mod had problems on latency and battery life.

that's the same problem I had with all those DIY BT modules. Don't know why. Apple, Filco, Logitech BT keyboards seem to last forever.