Perhaps he is working on all of the keyboards etc instead of browsing Geekhack.
Perhaps he is working on all of the keyboards etc instead of browsing Geekhack.
Gb to buy pasph a plane ticket to kick wfd's ass
Still buying from Hardforum:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1798971&highlight=
That scammer...
Time to get real, son!
No no no!!! Like demik said, blow his **** up in front of everyone.Time to get real, son!
You mean "you've lost your money, face it"?
out of curiosity....does anyone know what happens to these items that never get sent back?Probably he just put them in the closet or store room
I keep imagining that they get sold off because I see some of these 'non-returners' on other forums with alot of nice bling which comes very close to the value of the missing items people complain about.
Just for the record he must send to memore or less 600 bucks
1 Vortex alu case
1 Universal TKL plate
3 Phantom kits (pcb, plate, Teensy etc..)
Still buying from Hardforum:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1798971&highlight=
That scammer...
Thanks.
Finally he has aswered for the first time in almost 5 months:
"Hey, haven't caught up in GH for several months, I'll come on the forum to address everything tomorrow. Last time I was on, I only updated a few people. You're calling me a scammer now huh?"
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Can't really argue. There are not many things that could keep someone from taking two minutes out of a few months to make a post when he has people's stuff in his possession.Thanks.
Finally he has aswered for the first time in almost 5 months:
"Hey, haven't caught up in GH for several months, I'll come on the forum to address everything tomorrow. Last time I was on, I only updated a few people. You're calling me a scammer now huh?"
No Comment
Yup.
Thanks.
Finally he has aswered for the first time in almost 5 months:
"Hey, haven't caught up in GH for several months, I'll come on the forum to address everything tomorrow. Last time I was on, I only updated a few people. You're calling me a scammer now huh?"
No Comment
Yup.
Does wfd even have any of your stuff or are you just posting this to stir the pot?Thanks.
Finally he has aswered for the first time in almost 5 months:
"Hey, haven't caught up in GH for several months, I'll come on the forum to address everything tomorrow. Last time I was on, I only updated a few people. You're calling me a scammer now huh?"
No Comment
Yup.
I would be amazed if there was even a single person who didn't consider him to be a scammer. Regardless of his intentions or future conduct, his prior actions make him an ******* and an outright embarrassment to the community. I hope he comes back long enough to return everyone's merchandise that he has stolen and then promptly ****s off.
This is what i want to know.Does wfd even have any of your stuff or are you just posting this to stir the pot?Thanks.
Finally he has aswered for the first time in almost 5 months:
"Hey, haven't caught up in GH for several months, I'll come on the forum to address everything tomorrow. Last time I was on, I only updated a few people. You're calling me a scammer now huh?"
No Comment
Yup.
I would be amazed if there was even a single person who didn't consider him to be a scammer. Regardless of his intentions or future conduct, his prior actions make him an ******* and an outright embarrassment to the community. I hope he comes back long enough to return everyone's merchandise that he has stolen and then promptly ****s off.
Personally, I've never found WFD to be a scammer. My dealings with him were all prior to his departure, but I found him very helpful, generous and responsive. Not trying to defend him or his actions (or lack thereof), just giving an alternative perspective.
I don't know why he's fallen off the map and it's been frustrating to see other people having issues with him. Especially since WFD was such an active and vibrant member of the community.
Hope things get resolved quickly.
Does wfd even have any of your stuff or are you just posting this to stir the pot?
Always post first think later.I wish I could do this but I have to follow the rules and tos...
Perhaps some of you have not experienced a life-altering event.
I have - it was not pleasant. For about a month I was totally consumed by something happening to me and my family which was completely unexpected and out of my control.
Only after things started to settle down could I even think about read threads here.
WFD sounds like he has had a few such things happening one after another - I hope his situation stabilises soon.
Perhaps some of you have not experienced a life-altering event.I have experienced a life-altering event, and I understand we all have different ways of dealing with whatever real-life crisis we are going through, but I still feel like we should consider pasph's (and others) perspectives.
I have - it was not pleasant. For about a month I was totally consumed by something happening to me and my family which was completely unexpected and out of my control.
Only after things started to settle down could I even think about read threads here.
WFD sounds like he has had a few such things happening one after another - I hope his situation stabilises soon.
I know first hand what it is like to juggle a job a family a life altering event and a forum like this. Everyone will handle it differently and honestly my internet presence comes last. FU If you can not understand that I got married then had my grandmother and grandfather die within 3 months and you may have not received the amount of attention you required during the dsa dolch bull****. Personal attacks are not allowed here. So Keytrun please stay out of the conversation when you have no idea wtf is going on.
Personal attacks are not allowed here.
With all do respect, go ! $#@ yourself.
Personal attacks are not allowed here.With all do respect, go ! $#@ yourself.
dont see why everything has to devolve into bickering, whatever way you swing it, what we all want here is for someone who was held in high regard to do the right thing here, some people will remember what a big part of the community wfd was, and some people have no idea, and because of that, opinions are gonna differ, but whoever anyone defends here, as i say, we all want the same thing
I know first hand what it is like to juggle a job a family a life altering event and a forum like this. Everyone will handle it differently and honestly my internet presence comes last. FU If you can not understand that I got married then had my grandmother and grandfather die within 3 months and you may have not received the amount of attention you required during the dsa dolch bull****. Personal attacks are not allowed here. So Keytrun please stay out of the conversation when you have no idea wtf is going on.
Domo, please re-read your comment and then re-read Keytrun's comment, and think about which one actually sounds like a personal attack. Being able to relate to someone's behavior does not excuse it. That's a fallacious argument. "We all make mistakes" is a fallacy as well.
I don't want to get into this though, so I'll leave further arguing to everyone else. I'm thankful that I had no property in WFD's hands, such that this doesn't affect me like it does others.
I don't buy it. Not to stir the pot but if you were able to post on those other forums and buy stuff then you should have been able to at least reply to the person(s) here who's stuff you've had for a ridiculous amount of time. To me this all looks like a way to buy time / temporarily save face. Whether you've had a tough time or not doesn't excuse you from your responsibilities. Do you think if you stopped paying rent your landlord wouldn't kick you out just because you've had some issues? I would honestly be surprised if this pasph guy ever gets his stuff back.
This is what I propose in the mean time. You put all of his stuff on top of a recent newspaper (where the date is visible) and take pictures. If you can't fit it all in one picture then take multiple ones, but they should be on the newspaper. That way he can verify that you still actually have his belongings and haven't sold them. Also, I think its pretty crappy of you to respond to his message with "You're calling me a scammer now huh?" when you've had some of his stuff for nearly two years now, as well as decided to disappear for nearly half a year. There is literally no other reasonable conclusion anyone would draw given the circumstances, especially given the fact that you've been spotted in other sites.
I'm not super well versed in the legal repercussions of all of this, but my best friend is an IP lawyer. If you don't post the pictures here in the next week I would advise pasph to take legal action. I'm sure someone on this forum has your contact information. If you do post the pictures but don't send him the stuff back I would, again, advise pasph to take legal action. I'll communicate with pasph, as well as my friend and try to get it all coordinated. I can assume that pasph has sent you money based on the fact that he's asking for a refund. If you took his money / property without delivering goods or services then its theft. Pasph, if you used paypal to pay him I would recommend preparing to contact them and try to get your money back. If paypal gives you the money back then they'll go after WhiteFire for the money that they lost. Likely putting him into collections or contracting an attorney's office to deal with it. I'm not sure exactly how everything transpired, but if you could message me with all of the specifics I can relay it to my lawyer friend and provide you with the best actionable advice going forward - again assuming that you aren't provided with a) proof he still has your belongings, b) a refund or c) your stuff.
If there's anyone else who is interested in what I've said you are more than welcome to send me a PM with your specifics. I am in no way guaranteeing that you will ever get your stuff back, or see a dime for that matter but I will see what I can do to help you out. I have had a few family friends who got screwed online before and I was able to get them their money back. Hopefully WhiteFireDragon still has all of your stuff and will send it all out as soon as possible. Then this whole thing can be avoided. Though, I don't really have much faith in him given the fact that he still hasn't posted.
Holding someone's personal items that they originally paid for is pretty much equivalent to holding someone's money--this is regarding the statement that someone hasn't paid for additional parts or return shipment. And it's usually not about money only--it's stressful for the owner as well. To me there's an easy solution: arrange return shipment without any assembly--just return all the original parts (or ask for additional payment for extra parts) and say that you simply don't have the time to do the modifications or assembly anymore. I am certain most people would prefer that and would arrange assembly with someone else rather than wait 6+ months. This applies to a number of people on GH who have offered assembly services and then just got too busy or whatever the excuse. Instead of shipping everything back, they for some reason chose to hold on to all the parts seemingly indefinitely, thinking that it's somehow better. It's not. It's a lot less stressful for everyone to make that trip or two to the post office and just ship everything back. Obligation off everyone's shoulders, no drama.
Ok, he has sent me a PM stating he needs 1 or 2 weeks to sort and ship my stuff.
I've lost so much time chasing him through the internet that i can wait 2 weeks more.
Damn, that's ridiculousOk, he has sent me a PM stating he needs 1 or 2 weeks to sort and ship my stuff.
I've lost so much time chasing him through the internet that i can wait 2 weeks more.
3 weeks are gone and still nothing :rolleyes:
Ok, he has sent me a PM stating he needs 1 or 2 weeks to sort and ship my stuff.
I've lost so much time chasing him through the internet that i can wait 2 weeks more.
3 weeks are gone and still nothing :rolleyes:
1 month and still nothing
Ok, he has sent me a PM stating he needs 1 or 2 weeks to sort and ship my stuff.
I've lost so much time chasing him through the internet that i can wait 2 weeks more.
3 weeks are gone and still nothing :rolleyes:
1 month and still nothing
i know who u r
i know what u want
i will check view source
and i will send google streetview images of ur house
i know who u rShut up.
i know what u want
i will check view source
and i will send google streetview images of ur house
soz...?i know who u rShut up.
i know what u want
i will check view source
and i will send google streetview images of ur house
WFD is most likely gone for good now. People whose stuff he had possession of should probably just consider it a loss at this point. I predict we won't ever again hear from WFD on this forum in the future. :(
WFD is most likely gone for good now. People whose stuff he had possession of should probably just consider it a loss at this point. I predict we won't ever again hear from WFD on this forum in the future. :(
poor pas. if i had the money id refund him his loss. been more than a champ waiting for wfd.
Just for the record he must send to me
1 Vortex alu case
1 Universal TKL plate
3 Phantom kits (pcb, plate, Teensy etc..)
WFD is most likely gone for good now. People whose stuff he had possession of should probably just consider it a loss at this point. I predict we won't ever again hear from WFD on this forum in the future. :(
poor pas. if i had the money id refund him his loss. been more than a champ waiting for wfd.
Yeah, no joke. What is it you are missing again, pasph? Maybe I can send you a Filco or something.
Edit: found it.Just for the record he must send to me
1 Vortex alu case
1 Universal TKL plate
3 Phantom kits (pcb, plate, Teensy etc..)
I can't cover all that, but I can send you a Phantom kit and Universal TKL plate. Anyone have a Vortex TKL case they want to donate to the cause? I will accept donations toward restoring (at least some of) pasph's missing goods, and send them on to pasph.
WFD is most likely gone for good now. People whose stuff he had possession of should probably just consider it a loss at this point. I predict we won't ever again hear from WFD on this forum in the future. :(
poor pas. if i had the money id refund him his loss. been more than a champ waiting for wfd.
Yeah, no joke. What is it you are missing again, pasph? Maybe I can send you a Filco or something.
Edit: found it.Just for the record he must send to me
1 Vortex alu case
1 Universal TKL plate
3 Phantom kits (pcb, plate, Teensy etc..)
I can't cover all that, but I can send you a Phantom kit and Universal TKL plate. Anyone have a Vortex TKL case they want to donate to the cause? I will accept donations toward restoring (at least some of) pasph's missing goods, and send them on to pasph.
I have a plate (not universal, I don't think) vintage Browns with Clear for caps and Grey for space and a teensy I can donate. I just need the PCB (or can send stuff on) and case. I have Cherry stabilizers on the way and Costar on hand. The plate was painted (mediocre job since) but I can sand it.
I have $25 I can put towards the vortex case.
****ing scamhack....
What color was the Vortex case, and where can it be found for sale?
These are reasonably priced. I will buy one for pasph. What color? Black, grey, or red.
put me down for 50. i started it id be a damn shame if i didnt contribute. ill send you the money after work jd. send me your paypal addy
Whatever funds I receive will go toward purchasing Phantom PCBs, Teensys, etc. for pasph, and to cover international shipping costs. Any amount over the actual amount spent will be transferred directly to pasph. :)
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Whatever funds I receive will go toward purchasing Phantom PCBs, Teensys, etc. for pasph, and to cover international shipping costs. Any amount over the actual amount spent will be transferred directly to pasph. :)
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I'll have some spare Phantom plates by the end of the week and would happily donate one to the cause. If that's not needed I can definitely swing some cash to help cover the cost of something else.
I can't speak for pasph, but I think a spare Phantom plate would be a great donation, strict. It definitely goes with the spirit of our efforts to restore the things pasph lost.
And thanks to everyone who has donated to the cause so far!
I can't speak for pasph, but I think a spare Phantom plate would be a great donation, strict. It definitely goes with the spirit of our efforts to restore the things pasph lost.
And thanks to everyone who has donated to the cause so far!
Jest let me know what layout (125, 150, 7bit) and where to send it :thumb:
I got zero money (no kidding, literally zero in the bank)but you might have a pile of cash in your backyard, sweetie
Faith in geekhack restored.
It's highly commendable of you to be so positive after what you've been through.Faith in geekhack restored.
"Faith in geekhack" has never been lost
Well looks like I lost my phantom board, teensy, 2 plates aswell as my Filco TKL board. Had a feeling I would never see any of it again, it hurts so much to be out of pocket by that sort of money.