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Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: ozar on Tue, 24 February 2009, 13:18:35
Nice... NIB, Buy It Now ($130), probably won't last long and has inexpensive shipping ($6.29):

http://search.ebay.com/250378890276

Seller is kind of new, though.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 13:45:52
Man, where was this guy a week ago : ( Thats a steal at 130.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: ozar on Tue, 24 February 2009, 14:03:01
Yep, one of those NIBs last week went for $180 plus a lot more for shipping.

If I hadn't already spent so much on keyboards lately, I'd buy this one immediately.  I do worry a bit about a seller that is so new, though.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 14:03:56
Quote from: ozar;22632
Yep, one of those NIBs last week went for $180 plus a lot more for shipping.

If I hadn't spent so much on keyboards already here lately, I'd buy this one immediately.


Actually, it was more like 175.02.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: ozar on Tue, 24 February 2009, 14:11:25
Quote from: bigpook;22634
Actually, it was more like 175.02.


Oops... yeah, I just took another look and it was $160 plus $18.55 shipping:

http://search.ebay.com/170303161989
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 February 2009, 15:11:16
Quote from: bigpook;22634
Actually, it was more like 175.02.


You wouldn't want to forget about those 2 cents. :)
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wheel83 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 15:58:03
i bought it.  and the unhealthy obsession begins... haha
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 15:59:39
Quote from: itlnstln;22640
You wouldn't want to forget about those 2 cents. :)

Sorry, I had to look it up. It's 174.05 : )

I can't believe I went that high. I really wanted a NIB though, and I look forward to getting it.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 16:02:30
wheels83, did you get this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=250378890276

I wish this was up  a few days ago, I would have snagged it.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wheel83 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 16:05:51
yes thats the one i snagged. i have no use for it.  but nib is awesome.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 16:19:44
Quote from: wheels83;22661
yes thats the one i snagged. i have no use for it.  but nib is awesome.


Same here, I already have an excellent example of a model m mini, but the NIB is almost too good to be true.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 16:51:11
Quote from: webwit;22667
I got one of these last year (exact same NIB model) for the same price ($130). I wonder how many are out there.

Maybe its me, but I don't see a whole lot of model m mini's much less NIB.
The fact that they are still NIB is really amazing to me too.

There seem to be way more full size model m's available, which makes sense to me.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 17:26:33
Quote from: webwit;22676
This time of year, especially with the crisis, is probably not the best to get the highest price as a seller.


Someone forgot to tell me that.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wheel83 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 17:43:05
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-PN-37L0888-Space-Saver-II-Keyboard-RT3200_W0QQitemZ250379443025QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

does anyone know if those keys are hot swappable with this keyboard ??? ibm model m space saver

if not where can i find black keys to swap out ?
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 17:52:15
I don't think they are swappable. And I don't think the keys are available in black. I could be wrong though, but I don't recall ever seeing a black model m mini....
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wheel83 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 18:08:00
the ibm m13 is a black model m mini, sort of.  anyways ive heard of people getting black unicomp keys somehow.  i think black on white might look ok.  just seeing if its an option.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 18:10:53
I don't think the m13 is buckling spring though, that can be a problem. You can get black keys from Unicomp but they are not lettered. I did this with a Unicomp spacesaver and it looked pretty cool.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: cchan on Tue, 24 February 2009, 18:36:01
The M13 is BS, but it's not mini by any stretch of the imagination...
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: cchan on Tue, 24 February 2009, 18:37:04
Oh, and the SpaceSaver II's keys will not work on an M.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bhtooefr on Tue, 24 February 2009, 18:40:50
The M13 is merely a (regular 101-key with drainage holes and permanent PS/2 cable) Model M with a TrackPoint and a PS/2 passthrough for an external mouse added on.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 24 February 2009, 18:41:32
Sorry, I was way off on that one.

Heres the M13...

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11706/subcatid/0/id/132564
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: Mercen_505 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 20:39:10
Man, I never thought I'd see space savers going for more than M13s and Industrial Ms.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wheel83 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 20:52:56
I think m13's sell for 175$-300$ these days.  and i have read that they aren't as good as original model m's (my word is **** tho).
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: Mercen_505 on Tue, 24 February 2009, 20:59:00
I lucked out and got one for under 100 USD, but I had to do some repair work on it. It's definitely not as well built as my older Ms are, but I can't complain.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wumpyr on Wed, 25 February 2009, 03:46:26
My M13's seem to have a different feel to a classic M.  I'd prefer an older Model M feel, and two piece keys, but hey it's black and has character! :)
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: Biggs on Thu, 26 February 2009, 12:55:45
Quote from: bigpook;22658
Sorry, I had to look it up. It's 174.05 : )

I can't believe I went that high. I really wanted a NIB though, and I look forward to getting it.


If it's any consolation, Bigpook, the one you got comes with the original box (same date).  The one Wheels got did not but was ~$50 cheaper. ;)

Is it safe to say that Model M spacesavers with a birth date of March 1991 until 1996 are Lexmark-manufactured?

From Wikipedia:
In March of 1991, IBM divested a number of its hardware manufacturing operations, including keyboard manufacturing, to the investment firm Clayton & Dubilier, Inc. in a leveraged buyout to form Lexmark International, Inc.[2][3] The Model M keyboard continued to be produced by Lexmark in the United States, Mexico, Brazil, and Scotland with IBM being the major customer.[4] Many of the keyboards had IBM part number 52G9658, 83G2383, 42H1292, and others. Because of pricing pressures, many of these Model M keyboards were manufactured with a new lower-cost keyboard design to improve its competitiveness in the keyboard business.[5] Integrated keyboard cable and uniform print color on the keys were among some of the changes made.

In 1996, a company called Unicomp bought the Model M design from Lexmark.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: wheel83 on Thu, 26 February 2009, 13:01:06
dang i didnt realize that.  o well.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 26 February 2009, 17:50:33
Maybe I am lucky....but I do have a Lexmark mini that was made in '94 and I have no issues with it.


Heres the '91 I just got.

(http://ajm.no-ip.info/model-m/mini-002.jpg)

Upfront...

(http://ajm.no-ip.info/model-m/mini-001.jpg)


I have tried many keyboards in the last year and they are all good in way or another but the Model M mini
has it all, for me anyways.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: ozar on Thu, 26 February 2009, 17:57:50
Really nice, bigpook... I'm hoping to get one like that some day soon!
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 26 February 2009, 18:15:57
Yeah, thanks. It really is. It is no longer NIB though : )  I am very happy to have a brand new mini. I didn't think I would ever get my hands on one until now.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: Biggs on Thu, 26 February 2009, 19:46:08
Does it have 2-piece keys, Bigpook?
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 26 February 2009, 20:06:20
Yes it does. I had  a mini that was made in 87 I think ( I no longer have it) IIRC it had one piece keys. My '94 has 2 piece keys too.
I had a thread here somewhere about 1 piece versus 2 piece. I think its subtle, but I prefer 2 piece. Of course, I could be imagining it too : )

I am really liking it too. My only issue is it gets wonky after awhile if I have it plugged into a KVM. I tried both USB and PS/2 KVMs and have had issues. Right now it is plugged into the computer and it works fine.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: Biggs on Thu, 26 February 2009, 20:21:43
I just noticed your mini doesn't have pseudo numpad lettering.
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 26 February 2009, 20:39:51
Quote from: Biggs;22956
I just noticed your mini doesn't have pseudo numpad lettering.

That is correct. It also has some additional lettering on some of the keys.
I think it was originally made for some financial institution.

funny. I just tried it out, press shift and numlock but the 'numpad' does nothing. Thankfully, I never used it.

ps: you would think a financial institution would want a numpad, no?
Title: NIB IBM PS/2 Space Saver Clicky Keyboard
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 26 February 2009, 20:42:19
I found this

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/261381

the link points to an '89 model that looks like the 'numpad' works.
My '91 model does not.