Sometime in 2006 some Korean guys re-created the PCB for the rare Cherry G80-5000, because US Layout versions were nearly impossible to find.Also found this : http://curio.egloos.com/2139078
Could a plate and case be made also? That would be so sweetThe 5000 case is already perfect, there's no need to make another. Plate.. maybe.. but I love PCB mount. I really am just looking for info on these PCBs, as I want to turn my HAMPO into an ANSI 5000.
Let's make a GH5000!Very ambitious :)) Get yourself a G80-5000 and open it up.. then you'll realise why it's ambitious.
Doesn't the ergodox kinda do what the G80-5000 does though? I can't really complain since I have a G80-5000 myself, but...
Who am I kidding, I'd buy a GH5000 anyways.
Unstaggered columns, ew. I'd totally buy an ergodox if they made one with the standard stagger.how to symm sgg?
Unstaggered columns, ew. I'd totally buy an ergodox if they made one with the standard stagger.
So I opened up my 5000. The two PCBs that the switches mount on to have no components/microcontrollers etc. They only have holes for switches and diodes. Those two PCBs then connect by cable to a third PCB which has the controller etc.
Since the two switch-PCBs are so simple it should be pretty easy to just remake them but in ANSI layout. I'll see if I can do it. I've never touched a PCB cad program before though.
I don't think remaking the 5000 as a GH5000 is a good idea. For me, the best part is the case. It would be pretty damn hard to improve upon it in any way imo.
I got to see a 5000 once, and it was a little floppy. I think cherry can make sturdier cases.When I first took mine out of box and it started flopping about I was very disappointed.. Then I put the feet up and realised how effective they are. I find it's incredibly sturdy. Even when I push down hard on the wrist rests there's barely any flex/movement. I've been using it in the most split + most tilted position. It's even sturdier in the other positions..
That said, the case is the real winner in any of these designs. The way the two halves connect and the adjustability that it brings is what makes these keyborads so great and expensive (even compared with the ergodox)
Unstaggered columns, ew. I'd totally buy an ergodox if they made one with the standard stagger.
Ugh I wouldn't.
Anyway, it's been made. Some koreans copied the ergodox design but changed it to have staggered layout shortly after it was released. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
Honestly I'd love to get behind the ED but I don't get along with unusual layouts. I could get used to them but I I use my laptop way too much and it always screws me up.That's another great thing about the 5000. The layout's the same.. It's only your hand position that's changing, so it doesn't take long at all to get used to the board.
Honestly I'd love to get behind the ED but I don't get along with unusual layouts. I could get used to them but I I use my laptop way too much and it always screws me up.That's another great thing about the 5000. The layout's the same.. It's only your hand position that's changing, so it doesn't take long at all to get used to the board.
Dimensions of the left hand PCB have been measured and made in to a DXF file. Now I just need to do the same for the right hand PCB, then put in all the switch holes and copy the circuitry.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kvK7OR9.png)
Dimensions of the left hand PCB have been measured and made in to a DXF file. Now I just need to do the same for the right hand PCB, then put in all the switch holes and copy the circuitry.Sweet! I'm thinking of buying a set of PCBs when its finished and make some kind of case for itShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/kvK7OR9.png)
I have no idea, sorry. I'm no good with electronics/PCB design, which is why I'm pretty much just copying the the two Cherry PCBs and adapting them to ANSI.Dimensions of the left hand PCB have been measured and made in to a DXF file. Now I just need to do the same for the right hand PCB, then put in all the switch holes and copy the circuitry.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kvK7OR9.png)
You sir, are a legend. How hard do you think it would be to replace the controller PCB with something ATMEGA based? I want to make one of these things.
Sweet! I'm thinking of buying a set of PCBs when its finished and make some kind of case for it
And a closeup of the pinouts. The two holes circled red are connected together with a jumper wire that goes through to the other side of the PCB. Not sure why..
And a closeup of the pinouts. The two holes circled red are connected together with a jumper wire that goes through to the other side of the PCB. Not sure why..
Cherry just does that for whatever reason.
Actually: you should check if the boards aren't actually 2 layer. Cherry on a lot of their other boards will have the top layer be only groubd plane, and they'll have a signle ground jumper (taht looks a lot like that) to connect them. No idea why they do this, but I'm sure they have their reason.
The KB PCB has the LEDs but the current limiting resistors for them are on the controller.
Making a teesny control this would be really easy: just feed the matrix to the correct pins and install a firmware. You can even connect the Lock lights (with resistor), just make sure the firmware you pick supports them. I dont wire up lock lights on the KBs I make, but others might want them.
Other than that, we'd need something to do with the spacebars. hmm.
Looks like we could use 2.75 spacebars with a 1.25 mod to fill in the gaps, that would work if I'm judging the key sizes correctly.The spacebars are 3.5x each and extend to about 4.5x
Looks like we could use 2.75 spacebars with a 1.25 mod to fill in the gaps, that would work if I'm judging the key sizes correctly.The spacebars are 3.5x each and extend to about 4.5x
Phototekq, how often do you use the part of the spacebar that extends outwards past the PCB?I use it all the time. I don't have extended fully though. Each spacebar has 4 notches. I have them extended 2 notches.
Phototekq, how often do you use the part of the spacebar that extends outwards past the PCB?I use it all the time. I don't have extended fully though. Each spacebar has 4 notches. I have them extended 2 notches.
If we wanted to make it not-fully-closeable, we could have the spacebars just stick past the edge a little.
And for the people that want it to be fully closeable, they can just put on a smaller spacebar key.
Just a thought.
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keep it winkeyless! :p
nice pic bueller