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Title: Another IBM SSK
Post by: thecableguy on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:11:03
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box-/131110156558?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1e86c6390e

Let's see how high it will go  :D
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:16:07
listed for 15 min and already over 200
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:19:04
Don't worry guys, I already bid $1.5k on it, don't even try to outbid me.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:19:37
Don't worry guys, I already bid $1.5k on it, don't even try to outbid me.

The earlier you bid, the higher it is.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: demik on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:19:48
200k here, the e-peen is totally worth it
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:19:58
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:20:46
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.


Nice and naked ;)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: thecableguy on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:23:58
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.


Nice and naked ;)

Haha.  Are you talking about a keyboard?   :))
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:04
So if we use logic here; that ****ty, dinged up industrial sold for 1k, that must mean this will go for at least double... amirite?


I bet that person that just bought the crappy one must have some regrets now. But then again, they have more dollars than sense. So I am sure they will also bid on this one ;)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:32
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.


Nice and naked ;)

Haha.  Are you talking about a keyboard?   :))

No just other men
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:36
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.


Nice and naked ;)

Haha.  Are you talking about a keyboard?   :))

;)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:36:09
Another industrial popping out of no where? :))
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:41:10
Wonder if it will hit 500 before an hour's time listed.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:51:28
Another industrial popping out of no where?

I'm sure that the seller figures that this one will go for considerably more than the last one, since it is so much better.

Unfortunately, it often works the opposite way and the first one sells for the most.

All a function of how many drooling buyers with deep pockets are lurking out there.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: smknjoe on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:53:08
...they just keep popping up like magic! I don't think I've ever seen a NIB Industrial before. Why does it not have a logo? Field replacement stock?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:57:39
The lack of a badge/logo seems odd to me for a brand new keyboard in the IBM box, complete with the ship label from IBM (due to the FRU numbers would seem to mean it was part of a larger shipment to a corporate customer).

41G3600 is a valid ISSK p/n, so this one looks correct as a variant, wonder if it was destined to be badged at the customer location (maybe an A/B industrial?).
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 04 February 2014, 21:12:48
And it's already 300 within minutes! :))
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 04 February 2014, 21:40:32
The lack of a badge/logo seems odd to me for a brand new keyboard in the IBM box, complete with the ship label from IBM (due to the FRU numbers would seem to mean it was part of a larger shipment to a corporate customer).

41G3600 is a valid ISSK p/n, so this one looks correct as a variant, wonder if it was destined to be badged at the customer location (maybe an A/B industrial?).

For a while, unicomp had replacement top (not bottom) covers for industrial SSKs, Perhaps it's one of those? I'm not too familiar with IBM FRUs from the early 1990's Perhaps you were supposed to apply whichever case badge it was supposed to have.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 05 February 2014, 01:55:57
So if we use logic here; that ****ty, dinged up industrial sold for 1k, that must mean this will go for at least double... amirite?

I bet that person that just bought the crappy one must have some regrets now. But then again, they have more dollars than sense. So I am sure they will also bid on this one ;)

Unlikely-- the guy who outbid me on the last one was from Germany, and this seller doesn't offer international shipping.

And since I'm not terribly interested in a NIB SSK without a badge, I'll probably pass this one up as well.

The lack of a badge/logo seems odd to me for a brand new keyboard in the IBM box, complete with the ship label from IBM (due to the FRU numbers would seem to mean it was part of a larger shipment to a corporate customer).

41G3600 is a valid ISSK p/n, so this one looks correct as a variant, wonder if it was destined to be badged at the customer location (maybe an A/B industrial?).

There have been NIB Model Ms lacking badges before, so it's definitely not an uncommon thing. Definitely annoying, for sure.
--> getting the black badge for that thing is probably going to be more difficult than the SSK itself considering unicomp doesn't have any left.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 05 February 2014, 03:10:07
There have been NIB Model Ms lacking badges before, so it's definitely not an uncommon thing. Definitely annoying, for sure.
--> getting the black badge for that thing is probably going to be more difficult than the SSK itself considering unicomp doesn't have any left.

Did you know that here in convict town they have badge makers that can produce a hand full of badges out of plastic, aluminum, stainless steel and/or ceramic coated steel.  They specialize in small logos on plates/flat surfaces and what not.

I'm sure you'll have something similar where you live.  That way you can imitate the original plastic badge with something that makes any SSK or 101 keyboard shine with exclusivity  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 05 February 2014, 06:35:34
The oval labels seem too big and wrongly placed on these, and I have always preferred metal badges to plastic labels anyway.

Something superior could be easily made (considering the price that this will fetch, a new label would be trivial) and probably look much better.

Of course, this item will be bought by a purist, so the label may well be very important. If I bought it, and I won't, I would be pleased to leave it naked. I only wish that the oval depression was not there.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: snoopy on Wed, 05 February 2014, 06:46:26
this board is totally worthless without the badge. so nobody bid on it!
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Thechemist on Thu, 06 February 2014, 23:42:35
Here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-LOGO-FOR-COMPUTER-NEW-BLACK-DESKTOP-KEYBOARD-LAPTOP-UNITS-AND-MODIFIED-/261392469569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdc348e41) is the badge for it.

Edit: and gone.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Fri, 07 February 2014, 07:06:44
Here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-LOGO-FOR-COMPUTER-NEW-BLACK-DESKTOP-KEYBOARD-LAPTOP-UNITS-AND-MODIFIED-/261392469569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdc348e41) is the badge for it.

Edit: and gone.

That's not the correct badge, it's too large.  The seller has had others and someone bought one of these a while back.  Didn't fit.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Thechemist on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:02:36
Here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-LOGO-FOR-COMPUTER-NEW-BLACK-DESKTOP-KEYBOARD-LAPTOP-UNITS-AND-MODIFIED-/261392469569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdc348e41) is the badge for it.

Edit: and gone.

That's not the correct badge, it's too large.  The seller has had others and someone bought one of these a while back.  Didn't fit.

I measured my badges and they were also 1-1/4 x 3/4"
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:35:55
That's not the correct badge, it's too large.  The seller has had others and someone bought one of these a while back.  Didn't fit.

I measured my badges and they were also 1-1/4 x 3/4"

The standard M oval badge is 1" x 3/4".  The SSK badge is slightly smaller.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:26:24
Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:27:21
Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.


That's nice.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:44:09
Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

They say once you go black you can't go back
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:46:40
I like how the price jumped by $1.2k. :))
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:47:37
I like how the price jumped by $1.2k. :))


It's a common problem known as; more dollars than sense.




Also...


So if we use logic here; that ****ty, dinged up industrial sold for 1k, that must mean this will go for at least double... amirite?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: thecableguy on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:52:44
US $3,050.00 already
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:53:46
US $3,050.00 already


Looks like someone is more serious than harryM about owning it.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: thecableguy on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:56:03
Holy cow!  US $4,850.00 with 1 day 16 hours left.  :eek:
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:58:10


Looks like someone is more serious than harryM about owning it.

No, I will own this product. I must have it.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:00:06
That private feedback bidder....Seems legit :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:01:18


Looks like someone is more serious than harryM about owning it.

No, I will own this product. I must have it.


seek help
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:01:52
That private feedback bidder....Seems legit ::)


So can the seller see their feedback? If not, that would be a red flag, I would imagine.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:02:47
US $9,877.00
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: mm87 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:04:24
The other guy bidding against harryM is probably just driving the price up without actually wanting to buy it, after harryM so confidently assured us that he WILL be the one winning it.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: REVENGE on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:04:25
US $9,877.00
In 5 minutes...

On the bright side, now that the price has been artificially inflated, the information might propagate more extensively through the network and increase supply.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:05:30
The other guy bidding against harryM is probably just driving the price up without actually wanting to buy it, after harryM so confidently assured us that he WILL be the one winning it.


It's a common problem known as; more dollars than sense.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: thecableguy on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:09:05
Although any price is possible when you have serious collectors bidding, a price this high is just insane.   
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:13:05
so is harryM the guy with private feedback?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:14:24
so is harryM the guy with private feedback?
Could be either or -- not sure if troll vs troll, or troll vs harryM.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:15:27
I call bull****.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:17:01
Back to 586
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: REVENGE on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:17:21
We are happy to report that radioactivity has returned to normal levels.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:18:41
So..seller deleted bids or did ebay step in?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: REVENGE on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:20:10
So..seller deleted bids or did ebay step in?
Did the CIA do 41G3613?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:26:15
Back to 586

When keeping it real goes wrong.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:34:23
Thats just mind boggling how it went close to 10k, back down to 586 because of 2 people bidding. Were they both bunk bidders? How in the hell... lol.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:41:09
so harryM - what happened, bro?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:45:38
Thats just mind boggling how it went close to 10k, back down to 586 because of 2 people bidding. Were they both bunk bidders? How in the hell... lol.

As this board is Virgin, it is very desirable. I am unsure whether to contact the seller and make an offer due to the shrill bidder.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:46:12
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f7/f743a0663b5ecd5db55dc9bc2d3763532cac41e336e2924e559c29298c681459.jpg)

I don't like to assume shill bidding, but you never know sometimes. Either eBay cancelled the bids for some reason, or someone pulled back their bids due to an "error", also known as a lapse in judgement.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:50:58
Well, the sellers name is on the money




'Rayp999' (r a p e)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:53:45
Show Image
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f7/f743a0663b5ecd5db55dc9bc2d3763532cac41e336e2924e559c29298c681459.jpg)


I don't like to assume shill bidding, but you never know sometimes. Either eBay cancelled the bids for some reason, or someone pulled back their bids due to an "error", also known as a lapse in judgement.

Whilst my maximum price was not reached, an offer to the seller now could seal a price much lower than lets say, a second chance offer at the end.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:58:35
Well, the sellers name is on the money

'Rayp999' (r a p e)

So I didn't see the bidding happen, so I'm only assuming here. But my bet is that Daddy Warbucks here has a very high bid entered and someone else decided to test the waters to see how high that bid goes? And that shill bidder, whom we'll call "Anne" quickly retracted their bids.

I'm going to just grab some popcorn and see how this one plays out.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 08 February 2014, 06:16:49
Alright, who's the joker here?  Currently at $666.66.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:18:31
Both shill bids were made within a minute of each other:

r***2 ( private ) Retracted: US $9,777.00  Bid: Feb-08-14 02:00:43 PST Retracted: Feb-08-14 02:14:09 PST

f***d ( 118     ) Retracted: US $9,999.00  Bid: Feb-08-14 01:59:51 PST Retracted: Feb-08-14 02:11:51 PST


And both were retracted about ten minutes later within a few minutes of each other.  Doubt the seller is that quick.  We know that ebay wouldn't do a thing.

Both were from bidders who previously had bid on German items.

The one with the private rating has 3 bid retractions in the past six months and not much else.  The other bids on computer equipment, almost exclusively keyboards - he may have been the winner of one of the recent ssk and industrial auctions that went to German winners.

They're obviously the same person.

And now that they exposed what the real highest bidder's high bid was, someone came along as a wiseass and bid $656.66, knowing full well someone had a higher bid in and it would autobid to $666.66.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:37:06
This board is perfect with the date of manufacture matching my sons birthday. My bid will be placed at the end.

Me and my partner have been saving for a deposit on a house, however I am sure she will understand the importance and rarity of this purchase.

Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 10:47:33
I am sure she will understand the importance and rarity of this purchase.


I am not too sure you understand women... :P
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:11:50
Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

I must warn you that I am prepared to bid $1,0000,0000 for this keyboard. As we speak, my assistant curator is preparing to receive the specimen for inclusion in the basement level exhibit of my private keyboard museum. I already have a pallet of virgin SSK's, but I am bidding on this one just so you can't have it. Prepare for your destiny.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Laser on Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:13:51
So, is it a trick to scare people from bidding, knowing that there is someone who (hypothetically) can bid large amounts of money?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:28:33
I must warn you that I am prepared to bid $1,0000,0000 for this keyboard. As we speak, my assistant curator is preparing to receive the specimen for inclusion in the basement level exhibit of my private keyboard museum. I already have a pallet of virgin SSK's, but I am bidding on this one just so you can't have it. Prepare for your destiny.

 :p

In all seriousness though, I will be winning this item  :thumb:
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:01:03
So, is it a trick to scare people from bidding, knowing that there is someone who (hypothetically) can bid large amounts of money?

If someone bid $800 and it went for $2K I doubt they would feel like they just missed out. I can see retracted bids from shrills putting people off, it would be interesting to know if their are any other serious collectors bidding on this piece. I assume there are.

I am not too sure you understand women... :P

 :)) I'm sure she won't mind  ;)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: smknjoe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:06:36
Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:12:14
Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

Yes!
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:12:49
Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

+1
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 08 February 2014, 14:15:53
I'm preparing for a $1,500 snipe
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 08 February 2014, 14:19:27
You guys should work something out in private so that you don't just hurt each other needlessly while lining the pockets of a stranger.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tinlong117 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:00:29
lel, 1,133.11 usd
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:11:18
lel, 1,133.11 usd

 :-X

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:47:32

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

a 15K bid at the end will seal the deal for what the person before me was willing to pay. If it goes above 15K then I am happy to let it slip as I have quite the collection already.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:50:17
Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

Yes!

I shall post pictures when I get back from work  :D
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:52:15

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

a 15K bid at the end will seal the deal for what the person before me was willing to pay. If it goes above 15K then I am happy to let it slip as I have quite the collection already.

You mean the same as how you, out of the numerous that messaged the guy, somehow talked the guy selling 30 model Ms in bulk to sell you only one for $100 when he refused earlier in the week to sell all 5 for $750?  Hm.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:56:03
Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard...  Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:34:28
Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard...  Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

What do you believe this SSK to be worth?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: daetsid on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:39:03
Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard...  Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

What do you believe this SSK to be worth?

15k to you, right? : >
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: smknjoe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:44:47
$600-$800 at the most.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:31:13
I'm gonna paint an SSK gray and see what I can get for it after this show.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: smknjoe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:33:15
Don't forget to print out an appropriate label for the back. ;)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:14:23
Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:15:22
it has the industrial case and is pretty much new
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:17:15
Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

Merged your new thread with the original thread here.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:17:47
Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

No functional difference, just prettier and rarer.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:24:47
Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

The industrial keyboards have more placebo than the regular buckling spring systems.

 :p
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:29:47
Thanks for merging my thread, Photoelectric. Knew these boards were scarcer but didn't know what a premium that scarcity commanded.

So industrials are different aesthetically but not functionally?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:31:27
Thanks for merging my thread, Photoelectric. Knew these boards were scarcer but didn't know what a premium that scarcity commanded.

So industrials are different aesthetically but not functionally?

Yup
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: smknjoe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:33:48
...and I don't think any Industrial has ever sold for more than ~$800.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:35:31
...and I don't think any Industrial has ever sold for more than ~$800.

This one sold for $1,100 last week

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-1395682-Space-Saver-Industrial-Grey-Vintage-/171225517180?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item27ddd60c7c
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: smknjoe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:37:37
Besides that one.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:39:16
Prices are on the rise. The build quality of these, well second to none. Even a modern mechanical keyboard isn't built to last with marketing people interfering and cost cutting etc. It makes no sense to make a keyboard to last forever, though the IBM was.

You can always take a model M and put key caps on it or spray it grey, or whatever... But it will never be of that original quality.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:40:38
You're right, harryM, their placebo is off the charts.  :D :D
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:41:47
Prices are on the rise.

Let's see pics of the last one!  :)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Thechemist on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:09:52
Code: [Select]
Bidder                                                                         Action                                                         Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)                                                Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:25:48
Apparently a lot of people feel the way that I do, in that the absence of the label is not a negative, and may be a plus.

Either badge or label seems fine on a standard M, but they just seem too big and awkward on the SSK.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:45:10
Code: [Select]
Bidder                                                                         Action                                                         Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)                                                Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

<sigh>
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:47:45
Code: [Select]
Bidder                                                                         Action                                                         Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)                                                Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

<sigh>

Maybe they meant to bid $1,400.00?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 February 2014, 16:11:07
Whatever happened to stealth and keeping your business on the down-low?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:30:32
The joker is back.  1999.99.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:11:37
That's the same jackass that pushed the bid up to 666.66 earlier, with the same method.  Even the current top bidder has a retraction in the past six months.  Have never seen more bidders with retractions in one auction or so many outrageous bids.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:28:04
That's the same jackass that pushed the bid up to 666.66 earlier, with the same method.  Even the current top bidder has a retraction in the past six months.  Have never seen more bidders with retractions in one auction or so many outrageous bids.

Just to think who is really getting hurt here: The poor little keyboard.  It will be recovering from this trauma for a long time.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:37:09
Yes, I'm sure it'll be heartbroken.

(http://i.imgur.com/TK9zjDF.jpg)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:23:22
I didn't even know that it was possible to retract a bid.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:48:12
I didn't even know that it was possible to retract a bid.


I didn't either. :(
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:54:21
Anyone want to call the final price?  :p
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:00:53
I… didn't expect that.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:01:30
well that was anticlimatic
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:01:58
Bets on whether the top bidders will pull out by not paying after rethinking the value?
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:07:03
"Yeah, sorry, I was out of the house, my dog must have bid on that."
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:00
Anyone want to call the final price?  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/KBNcZ.gif)
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:48
Aww... I wanted it to go to $15,000.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Thechemist on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:53
nothing tops " I was drunk"
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:11:57
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:17:44
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

I'm not sure I follow that logic here.  The top bidder still bid up to or even above the amount it is at now.  It was within that person's allocated maximum bid value.  Even with potential fake bids to get the price up.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:33:04
Seems about right, less than twice what a decidedly inferior specimen went for last week.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: demik on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:35:10
Ssk 2014 overhyped over priced keyboard.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:40:50
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

I'm not sure I follow that logic here.  The top bidder still bid up to or even above the amount it is at now.  It was within that person's allocated maximum bid value.  Even with potential fake bids to get the price up.

Yes, in the end, he's still paying what he was willing to pay.

But he's paying more than what he would have paid if there were none of this nonsense with the over-the-top bidding and retractions.

There's some obviously fake bids in there using information gained from the high retracted bids.  Whether they were working in conjunction with the seller or just being *******s will remain a mystery.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 09 February 2014, 21:46:26
The joker is back.  1999.99.

And it stayed there, interesting.

Well it's a great keyboard! I hope whoever got it enjoys it!

I can't wait for 3 years from now when Hall effect KBs hit these prices.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 09 February 2014, 23:39:38
The joker is back.  1999.99.

And it stayed there, interesting.

Well it's a great keyboard! I hope whoever got it enjoys it!

I can't wait for 3 years from now when Hall effect KBs hit these prices.

Yeah, that ain't going to happen :P
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Zaskar on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:50:00
But he's paying more than what he would have paid if there were none of this nonsense with the over-the-top bidding and retractions.

There's some obviously fake bids in there using information gained from the high retracted bids.  Whether they were working in conjunction with the seller or just being *******s will remain a mystery.


Hard to believe so many people bid so early. You need to wait until the last 10-30 seconds to place your bid, a single maximum value that you would be willing to pay (the closer to the end the better, but don't let a slow machine or problem with the bid cause you to miss it). Only exception is if there is a buy it now that's priced higher then you are willing to pay, in which case place minimum bid to remove it and then wait.

Any earlier bids is like playing cards and keeping yours face up on the table in front of you for everyone to see.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:08:24

You need to wait until the last 10-30 seconds to place your bid, a single maximum value that you would be willing to pay (the closer to the end the better, but don't let a slow machine or problem with the bid cause you to miss it). Only exception is if there is a buy it now that's priced higher then you are willing to pay, in which case place minimum bid to remove it and then wait.

Any earlier bids is like playing cards and keeping yours face up on the table in front of you for everyone to see.

Hello.

Sniping.

Any legitimate bid at any time removes the Buy It Now.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:11:04
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Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: EverythingIBM on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:07:23
I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:31:05

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:38:26

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

Shill bidding is violating the terms of a bid retraction. Once that is looked at, the transaction can continue.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

Shill bidding is violating the terms of a bid retraction. Once that is looked at, the transaction can continue.

You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:15:36
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:18:02
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:25:39
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.

Would it have sold for less, though?  There last two high bids look more legit than most of the rest, it's still entirely possible that it would have hit $2000 no matter what the guy with 1 feedback did.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:28:29
More
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right?  Only to the previous current bid?  I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600.  But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier.  Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing.  Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.
Would it have sold for less, though?  There last two high bids look more legit than most of the rest, it's still entirely possible that it would have hit $2000 no matter what the guy with 1 feedback did.

I suppose that's why it's "messy". All this is really speculation.
Title: Re: Another IBM SSK
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:49:29
I hope EverthingIBM will give us the full story when all is said and done.