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Title: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:32:11
Hi guys, I'm new here and I decided that I'm going to get a new tenkeyless board with Blues+custom keycaps to complement my Quickfire TK since it's apparently difficult to replace all of the keycaps on it.
A Quickfire Rapid is out of the question because I already have a CM product and in general I don't like the "look" they have, so far the one I'm thinking of is this Leopold: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless&pid=fc200rcab
I'm on a 100 dollar budget(not including the keycaps), should I get a Poker II or a Choc Mini instead?
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless should I get?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:35:10
Your title and last question are contradictory. Do you want a TKL or 60% layout?
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:41:11
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:35:10
Your title and last question are contradictory. Do you want a TKL or 60% layout?
Sorry, I got them mixed up, tenkeyless keyboards just have the numpad chopped off while 60% ones just have the numbers/letters, right?
If that's the difference brb, changing title
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:44:49
Example of a 60% board:
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35122654/aview/POKER2-1.jpg)
From here (http://deskthority.net/news-reviews-f4/poker-2-t5755.html)

Example of a TKL board:
(http://webwit.nl/input/filco/majestouch2/2.jpg)
From webwit's site

So yes you're correct. You might also find this helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0).


I recommend a Filco MJ2 for the TKL option and Poker 2 for the 60% option. And welcome to GeekHack! :D
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:57:52
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 February 2014, 15:44:49
Example of a 60% board:
Show Image
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35122654/aview/POKER2-1.jpg)

From here (http://deskthority.net/news-reviews-f4/poker-2-t5755.html)

Example of a TKL board:
Show Image
(http://webwit.nl/input/filco/majestouch2/2.jpg)

From webwit's site

So yes you're correct. You might also find this helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0).


I recommend a Filco MJ2 for the TKL option and Poker 2 for the 60% option. And welcome to GeekHack! :D
Thanks  :D
I can't afford the Filco for a while and the Poker is just in my budget, what would your second choice be instead of the M2 if I get a TKL?
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: abtrout on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:00:20
CM Storm QFR (Quickfire Rapid) seems to be a popular choice based on my forum lurking :) They are pretty cheap, too!
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:04:27
Quote from: abtrout on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:00:20
CM Storm QFR (Quickfire Rapid) seems to be a popular choice based on my forum lurking :) They are pretty cheap, too!
Are those still really overbranded? I'm worried the case design won't go with the keycaps I want to get for it.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:11:19
Quote from: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:04:27
Quote from: abtrout on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:00:20
CM Storm QFR (Quickfire Rapid) seems to be a popular choice based on my forum lurking :) They are pretty cheap, too!
Are those still really overbranded? I'm worried the case design won't go with the keycaps I want to get for it.

They used to be overbranded, but aren't anymore. There is no branding on the top of the case (just matte black), and a CMStorm logo on the back left side of the case (if you're sitting in front of the keyboard you can't see it).
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:12:26
See here (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8220199) for pictures of what they look like now.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:31:02
Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:12:26
See here (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8220199) for pictures of what they look like now.
The spacebar is standard size, right?
One of the reasons I'm getting another is because I can't replace all of the keycaps on my TK thanks to the 6.5x spacebar  :(
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:31:45
Yes, the QFR is a great board for modding in pretty much every way. Completely standard keyset.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:33:20
I have both a choc mini and poker 2. I definitely recommend the poker 2 cause I fat finger too much for my noppoo. Definitely not a fan of the layout and you get used to the fn layer.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: mooswa on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:42:09
Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:31:45
Yes, the QFR is a great board for modding in pretty much every way. Completely standard keyset.

QFR is great.  There is also a programmable replacement controller board for it - Frosty Flake - so you can mod it to support a custom layout as well.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:57:01
Quote from: mooswa on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:42:09
Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:31:45
Yes, the QFR is a great board for modding in pretty much every way. Completely standard keyset.

QFR is great.  There is also a programmable replacement controller board for it - Frosty Flake - so you can mod it to support a custom layout as well.
Welp, guess I'm going with the QFR after all, where do people get that grey casing for it though?
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: demik on Wed, 05 February 2014, 17:58:22
hhkb

wait didn't see the budget. sorry.



save up more and buy hhkb.







(or a used poker, since i think they retail over 100)
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 18:16:22
Quote from: demik on Wed, 05 February 2014, 17:58:22
hhkb

wait didn't see the budget. sorry.



save up more and buy hhkb.







(or a used poker, since i think they retail over 100)
no way am I getting a 260 dollar keyboard  :-X
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: demik on Wed, 05 February 2014, 18:20:43
not with that attitude you aren't!
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 05 February 2014, 19:16:52
I also recommend a used Poker I or II over the Choc Mini.  I didn't like my Choc Mini at all, especially the keycaps.  Plus it's hard to replace them whereas it's not so bad for the Pokers.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 20:07:29
Poker poker poker poker poker!!!
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:12:55
Quote from: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 20:07:29
Poker poker poker poker poker!!!
So far I'm torn between the Poker and the QFR  :-\
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:14:53
Quote from: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:12:55
Quote from: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 20:07:29
Poker poker poker poker poker!!!
So far I'm torn between the Poker and the QFR  :-\
The QFR is very nice for the price. Personally I love the 60% layout and that you can mod just about anything on it. Much more bang for your buck IMO but its all preference.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:17:26
Get a HKKB.

Disclaimer: I'm just channeling the popular opinion here.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:35:02
Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:17:26
Get a HKKB.

Disclaimer: I'm just channeling the popular opinion here.
I can't afford a HHKB. I'm paying for college and I still can't justify spending 260 dollars on a keyboard.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:43:54
Thanks for the answers guys, what are the keycaps on the QFR made of? Amazon says they're lasered but they don't specify whether it's PBT or ABS.
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:50:11
Quote from: Roibhilin on Wed, 05 February 2014, 21:43:54
Thanks for the answers guys, what are the keycaps on the QFR made of? Amazon says they're lasered but they don't specify whether it's PBT or ABS.
I believe theyre ABS
Title: Re: Which tenkeyless/60% should I get?
Post by: Roibhilin on Wed, 26 February 2014, 17:38:17
sorry if this necroposting, pulled the trigger and got a QFR with Blues!
i'd recommend it to anyone here who likes MX switches and wants a good, customizable board