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Title: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:23:01
This is now my favorite OS for everything other than gaming!
It's sooooo smooth and compiz manager is amazing too, I'm sure I haven't really gotten to the nooks and cranny of linux at all but it is a really great experience so far.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: lcs on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:24:21
It is indeed very nice :)

And there are lots of games for linux now. Also that will only grow :)
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:24:33
Which distro? What desktop environment/window manager?
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: lcs on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:27:08
Which distro? What desktop environment/window manager?

By his previous thread I'd say he's using ubuntu. compix works with gnome only? I don't know.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:29:44
I like Ubuntu 12.04 but w classic gnome theme. Much cleaner looking.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:32:38
I like Ubuntu 12.04 but w classic gnome theme. Much cleaner looking.

That's what I'm using, bro. Stop copying me! :))
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: iri on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:33:18
This is now my favorite OS for everything other than gaming!
you've been using it for how many minutes?

compiz manager is amazing too
are you ****ing kidding me? it's buggy as hell, at least in my 13.04.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: eth0s on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:35:18
I wonder if I should finally switch to Linux.  I hate windows beyond words.  I have hated it for years and years.  But like Patti Hearst, I'm afraid to leave my abuser.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:35:43
This is now my favorite OS for everything other than gaming!
you've been using it for how many minutes?

compiz manager is amazing too
are you ****ing kidding me? it's buggy as hell, at least in my 13.04.
In 13.10 it seems fine.... And FOR YOUR INFORMATION I have been using it for a day so far...
Installed last night and played with it today...

Compiz is working except cube desktop....
Other than that, I love it. When Planetside 2 has a launcher that works on linux, windows will still be my primary OS... Ubuntu will be for browsing, using and enjoying it.
Ubuntu running Unity
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:37:38
Unity isn't terrible, like everyone complains. I've used it. But I prefer Gnome Classic, because that's what I am used to.

I also like XFCE and lxde. Xubuntu is nice.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: osi on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:54:44
Welcome to the world of Linux padawan. Ubuntu is a good start :thumb:
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:57:03
Once I really learn about it, I will start changing kernels and such... Can't wait.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:57:05
I like Ubuntu 12.04 but w classic gnome theme. Much cleaner looking.

That's what I'm using, bro. Stop copying me! :))

Good choice! :-)
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:57:15
Gnome 3 (Classic) for me. I quit using Ubuntu since they started to move away from open source. Debian is my daily driver these days.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:01:17
So this is like android pretty much... Many different 'flavors'. I really like the look of gnome 3.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:04:01
Android  ftw!!!!!!   free apps...  (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/d5f02ecd.gif)
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: iri on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:04:28
And FOR YOUR INFORMATION I have been using it for a day so far...
woohoo!!

p.s. you don't need to switch kernels on modern distros. also you don't need to build your own kernels.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:07:02
Oh.... Still learning about linux... There is still a lot of uncharted territory's 
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:09:45
Yeah, no one recompiles kernels anymore, unless it's for some specialized application, like an ultra-lightweight dristro running on some embedded system. But even then, RAM and processor and storage are cheap now, so you can use off-the-shelf distros mostly. Take the RasPi for example.

Modern Linux is install and go. Of course, you can play around with it and customize it to your liking. If you really want to try and build your distro up from a basic system, try Arch some day.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:15:36
I love how it doesn't bog down on boot....
This is amazing...
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: lcs on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:16:27
Try this: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: iri on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:19:14
Try this: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
the kid just tried his first sip of beer, and you offer him a deadly moonshine.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: lcs on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:20:09
Try this: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
the kid just tried his first sip of beer, and you offer him a deadly moonshine.

It is fun! He'll like it :) And he can virtualize things, so no problems!
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: osi on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:34:37
The best way to quickly explore the many flavors of linux is to have a USB stick available to you.

Grab this program - YUMI - from here

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/

The site has easy to follow documentation on how to get started.

Distrowatch is a great source for seeing other distributions to try.

Distrowatch.com


Load up your USB with whatever you like and boot into  live environment. It let's you get a feel for the OS and its particular features. You may have already experienced this from your previous sessions with ubuntu.

When you are done checking it out restart, pull your USB drive back out and you are back to normal.

Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:40:38
The best way to quickly explore the many flavors of linux is to have a USB stick available to you.

Grab this program - YUMI - from here

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/

The site has easy to follow documentation on how to get started.

Distrowatch is a great source for seeing other distributions to try.

Distrowatch.com


Load up your USB with whatever you like and boot into  live environment. It let's you get a feel for the OS and its particular features. You may have already experienced this from your previous sessions with ubuntu.

When you are done checking it out restart, pull your USB drive back out and you are back to normal.


Will do lol. I got their program to make a bootable USB... So I'll install that later and experiment with different things.
WOAH WOAH WOAH. I need to learn about commands with terminal before I can do anything. I see that's its important for things like installing team speak and spotify. Like Iri said.…
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:42:21
That's one way to go, but damn USB is slow. Everybody has their favorite distro and opinion when it comes to Linux...that's for sure. I've just installed them directly on PCs over the years. Now, if I had the hardware and software (which I do), I would just install in VMware to take one for a test drive.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:43:47
That's probably the way I'll go once I learn the ropes. Remember still very new with Linux.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:44:03
If you really want to learn the ins and outs install a server version without the GUI. Raspberry Pi is really good for learning *nix and programming. It's what it was designed for.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:56:39
What are ya'll customizing linux to do... besides visuals..

(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-11.gif)
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: Novus on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:03:04
Bypass an atrocious tablet start screen  :)) ... on the desktop.
How many of you guys have ubuntu on your phone?
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:09:39
Bypass an atrocious tablet start screen  :)) ... on the desktop.
How many of you guys have ubuntu on your phone?


i thought android was linux?
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:18:03
If you really want to learn the ins and outs install a server version without the GUI. Raspberry Pi is really good for learning *nix and programming. It's what it was designed for.
I thought about that... Once I start dual enrollment next year I will take up introduction to programming.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: smknjoe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:30:06
High school or College?What's dual enrollment? If you are really interested in CS then start learning now. You don't have to wait to take classes. http://www.raspberrypi.org/about
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:44:49
High school or College?What's dual enrollment? If you are really interested in CS then start learning now. You don't have to wait to take classes. http://www.raspberrypi.org/about

+1 for this sentiment.  Sounds like you have the right mindset HUNTERANGEL121.  Go forth and dig in, learn everything you can, and have fun.  Knowledge you gain by experimentation motivated by a project you care about will stick around longer than what you learn in classes.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:03:36
Lol thanks guys! I'll take a look into that link when I get home!
It's something I really like too.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:10:36
Lol thanks guys! I'll take a look into that link when I get home!
It's something I really like too.

It's good that you've taken an interest in something far away from the evil Microsoft Empire.  I wish I had that type of guts to achieve, but just too scared to risk everything when it all runs as is.

Plus being older kind of keeps that old line of "if it aint broke why fix it" firmly in your eye.  If I had major problems with Gatesie's Monstrosity I would be pushed towards Ubuntu or something else that's easy to setup and use but the length and breadth of information is longer than MS's junk pile and far more confusing.

It's like you know the downsides of MS but who knows the downsides of Ubuntu?
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:28:41
Microsoft is slowly becoming like Apple. As soon as most game companies real ease launchers on Linux, there will be no more Microsoft in my home.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: demik on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:41:58
Microsoft is slowly becoming like Apple. As soon as most game companies real ease launchers on Linux, there will be no more Microsoft in my home.

shut the hell up
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:48:27
But it's true!
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER SHUUUUUNNNNNN-Charlie the unicorn.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: demik on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:50:08
linux for less than 24 hrs. super leet hacker that hates MS and Apple now.

Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:54:08
Not calling my self 1337 hacker! I'm saying Microsoft is apples prodigy and learning the apple way.
I've always hated apple.…
Still love windows. But they're going down that route and will turn out like apple.
Actually my PC is the only windows machine in my home. The other two are macs.…
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: quickcrx702 on Thu, 06 February 2014, 20:14:15
This is now my favorite OS for everything other than gaming!
It's sooooo smooth and compiz manager is amazing too, I'm sure I haven't really gotten to the nooks and cranny of linux at all but it is a really great experience so far.

Eventually the cube, and all of the animations will grow old and become annoying.  It's kind of like black lights, when you are a teenager they are great, but as you get older you realize they aren't necessary to blaze.  Also, I hate to tell you this, but Ubuntu isn't a great distro to learn anything on.  Ubuntu is nice if you just want everything to work out of the box, but you end up losing a lot of knowledge about what's under the hood.  For example you don't need to really edit any config files, resolve any manual dependencies, and there are gui tools for pretty much any system administration task that you need to do.  You won't become a command line ninja that way, and because of that you will lose a lot of functionality. 

I recommend using Ubuntu for a while to get an idea of how Linux works from the outside, then switching to Gentoo or Arch to learn about how it works on the inside.  Another distro that you might want to learn is CentOS or Fedora, not because you will learn anything, but because most web servers you'll use will use them.  There are a lot of Redhat specifics that you should learn about(Ex: SELinux, RPM, etc).  If you have absolutely nothing to do over a summer, then LFS is a great choice and will teach you much more.

Once you spend time in the trenches, you will eventually grow tired of editing config files and compiling software, and will come back full circle to a Debian distribution.  If you like eye candy, ubuntu is great, but I recommend trying CrunchBang or a similar minimalist distro.  Less is more sometimes.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 06 February 2014, 20:30:52
I'm going to be getting different versions and eventually build one up from scratch. Like I said I know nothing about it now. My plan is to studio while I can go into dual enrollment knowing something about it.
I see that Ubuntu is about eye candy.
I'll be looking into different distros also. This is so I can kind of get an understanding of how it all works.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: iri on Fri, 07 February 2014, 01:18:01
I need to learn about commands with terminal before I can do anything. I see that's its important for things like installing team speak and spotify. Like Iri said.…
installing you say? sudo apt-get install <whatever_you_need>

but who knows the downsides of Ubuntu?
i do.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: quickcrx702 on Fri, 07 February 2014, 02:17:32
Top is also a must, along with piping commands into each other with |.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: iri on Fri, 07 February 2014, 02:43:53
ps aux in addition to top
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: tuxsavvy on Fri, 07 February 2014, 06:23:14
htop > top
ps aux and pgrep goes hand in hand, along with pgrep comes with many pid tools like pkill.

If you want command line package manager (similar to synaptic in some ways) but faster, try aptitude.

The best way into linux in my humble opinion is to work from command line up. Understand how to get around in command line and appreciate it because unlike windows, linux does not roll over and play dead when the GUI part dies. The GUI part under linux is known as X11 or better yet Xorg which is just X daemon/services/server. Daemons can be start/stopped anytime and switching between them is somewhat a breeze.

If you get familiar with command line and cannot live without it, even in X environment I would suggest using things yakuake. I have a whole bunch of terminal "tabs" open and I personally love the idea of having the console "floating". It is available whenever I want it and virtually wherever (within X mainly) I want.

On the topic of android, it is not really seen as a proper linux. It is basically linux kernel that is running Dalvik (Java) virtual machine which makes hardware compatibility a trivial issue (across various devices running android). Technically android can be seen as a linux operating system but most linux enthusiasts will tell you that it is also an abomination of linux at that. I have maemo/meego smartphone here, I bet not many would know what they are.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: iri on Fri, 07 February 2014, 06:59:32
Sailfish OS is out.
Title: Re: In love with linux!
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 07 February 2014, 12:02:59

On the topic of android, it is not really seen as a proper linux. It is basically linux kernel that is running Dalvik (Java) virtual machine which makes hardware compatibility a trivial issue (across various devices running android). Technically android can be seen as a linux operating system but most linux enthusiasts will tell you that it is also an abomination of linux at that. I have maemo/meego smartphone here, I bet not many would know what they are.
Now there is ART in kitkat.
Sailfish OS is out.
Sailfish looks amazing!
Ok.... So I've read atleast 6 different articles about linux, seems I will like it... I've always been the type to screw around with stuff, I like to this type of stuff....