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Title: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:52:26
G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-TRIAD-CHERRY-Keyboard-G80-3314-HAU-Type-AT-/111274583043

original Cherry doubleshots

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/qAEAAOxy4dNS9QGH/$_57.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FCsAAMXQVT9S9QGP/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: daetsid on Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:57:52
G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-TRIAD-CHERRY-Keyboard-G80-3314-HAU-Type-AT-/111274583043

original Cherry doubleshots

Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/qAEAAOxy4dNS9QGH/$_57.JPG)


Great deal!
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: UniClown on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:00:17
Definitely some unique keys here! I'm tempted. Some one buy it before me.  :p
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:03:01
Wow, that's a new one... never seen this before. Nice price on a pretty bizarre model. I'm tempted but it would go against my no keyboards I wouldn't use rule I implemented this year. Layout is just too odd for me.
I might have to pester GMK to see if they can find the tooling for those cursor keys though.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: UniClown on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:04:36
Wow, that's a new one... never seen this before. Nice price on a pretty bizarre model. I'm tempted but it would go against my no keyboards I wouldn't use rule I implemented this year. Layout is just too odd for me.
I might have to pester GMK to see if they can find the tooling for those cursor keys though.

They look almost exactly like the Ducky Shine arrow keys
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/27915_428524187201311_1281296601_n.jpg)
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:06:46
Looks like it's not all doubleshots--some caps are pad-printed.  Probably the ones with more unusual writing.  Maybe even the arrow keys?  Looked at it too for caps, but didn't like the bland look.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:34:55
the layout is really bizarre. Is the keyboard NOoooooS? Like from the 1970s?

yeah, I also passed on it. The F XT is much more useful than this layout.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:35:58
Layout is pretty similar to the 130* models, which is basically DEC layout copy. Hard to say... there are obviously even some pretty non standard keys on that are doubleshot. I guess I will find out soon enough if GMK have those cursors or not... if so they will be going into the extras pack on the white/dark grey set. Those cursors are basically the only thing I liked about Wyse... now if possible in Cherry that is super.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:38:35
I'm just looking at the little bag with 3 extra caps on the first photo.  You can see that bag upside-down vs. in the shot zooming in on that bag.  In that combination photo, it looks like some of the caps don't have any black plastic underneath.  Based on my WEY caps, some of the doubleshots or padprinted choices are not intuitive, so I guess they could be anything there...

P.S.: Are you going to PM the seller about the arrow cluster?
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:46:16
I just email to GMK. I needed to ask about some other thing anyway.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:58:55
Looks like someone got it :D 
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 February 2014, 18:31:21
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-TRIAD-CHERRY-Keyboard-G80-3314-HAU-Type-AT-/360855544453?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5404aaa285

>10 available, new in box
$70 shipped (same seller, raised price)
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 07 February 2014, 18:32:28
I kinda want one, but at $70 that's slightly out of impulse buy territory..
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: urbancamo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:10:44
These keyboards have a VMS or OpenVMS layout - this is an operating system created by Digital Equipment Corporation in the 1970s and still sold by HP today. I would imagine this particular variant was created to be used connected to a PC running terminal emulation software remotely connected to a bespoke Point of Sale system running under OpenVMS. I believe Blockbuster, for example, is still using a VMS based product. Looking at the keycaps they seem to relate to car sales so maybe this was used with a car-sales application?

The G80-1306 is an equivalent model made by Cherry to connect directly to older VAX and Alpha based computers running OpenVMS. It is a DEC LK201 clone. The LK201 uses a DEC specific connection and protocol however.

Note that if this keyboard emulates the later DEC keyboards that use the PS/2 connector (later Alpha workstations and VT500 series of terminals have this connection for example) eg. the LK461, then you can expect it to operate with scan code set 3. Having said that, this has an AT connector, so may provide custom scan code set 2 values for the non-standard keys.

Hope that helps! I want one but I live in the UK and it all adds up!
Gotta love a keyboard that has an 'Instruct' key rather than 'Return'!
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:37:06
they got 98 boards. o_O
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:40:50
they got 98 boards. o_O


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-TRIAD-CHERRY-Keyboard-G80-3314-HAU-Type-AT-/360855544453?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5404aaa285
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: tinlong117 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:42:01
they got 98 boards. o_O


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-TRIAD-CHERRY-Keyboard-G80-3314-HAU-Type-AT-/360855544453?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5404aaa285

:?
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: REVENGE on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:58:16
Nice. These hidden stocks of NOS boards are getting rarer, but still popping up!
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Michael on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:02:25
..
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: urbancamo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:28:47
I would imagine these are Cherry blacks... has anyone asked?
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 08 February 2014, 05:11:10
Yeah this looks identical to my DEC branded keyboards, which by the way are horrible boards. They're rubber dome, and the plungers feel like they're rubbing against sandpaper. When I cracked one open I discovered that Cherry had manufactured the PCB, and possibly other parts in the DEC board.

Definitely an interesting find. Hopefully the price comes back down at some point.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 08 February 2014, 08:21:29
Yeah this looks identical to my DEC branded keyboards, which by the way are horrible boards. They're rubber dome, and the plungers feel like they're rubbing against sandpaper. When I cracked one open I discovered that Cherry had manufactured the PCB, and possibly other parts in the DEC board.

Definitely an interesting find. Hopefully the price comes back down at some point.

Let's hope these greedy scumbags take a few years to sell their overpriced stock. I hate profiteers. It's not as if the people who collect these keyboards (us) are rich.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: REVENGE on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:42:46
Yeah this looks identical to my DEC branded keyboards, which by the way are horrible boards. They're rubber dome, and the plungers feel like they're rubbing against sandpaper. When I cracked one open I discovered that Cherry had manufactured the PCB, and possibly other parts in the DEC board.

Definitely an interesting find. Hopefully the price comes back down at some point.

Let's hope these greedy scumbags take a few years to sell their overpriced stock. I hate profiteers. It's not as if the people who collect these keyboards (us) are rich.

$70 for a NOS Cherry MX keyboard with doubleshots is profiteering?  :))
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: ebacho on Sat, 08 February 2014, 17:24:19
Yeah this looks identical to my DEC branded keyboards, which by the way are horrible boards. They're rubber dome, and the plungers feel like they're rubbing against sandpaper. When I cracked one open I discovered that Cherry had manufactured the PCB, and possibly other parts in the DEC board.

Definitely an interesting find. Hopefully the price comes back down at some point.

Let's hope these greedy scumbags take a few years to sell their overpriced stock. I hate profiteers. It's not as if the people who collect these keyboards (us) are rich.

$70 for a NOS Cherry MX keyboard with doubleshots is profiteering?  :))

People are grumbling because the one in the OP was listed for $50 I believe.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 08 February 2014, 18:12:33
Right, the seller listed one at $50 with free shipping, and it sold quickly.  So he "tested the waters" with it and listed the rest at $70.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 08 February 2014, 19:41:46
even at $50 I couldn't call it a good deal. It's not really usable, so it's all about either collecting or stripping for parts.

At 80+ (70+shipping) it's a significantly poorer deal.

This is definitely for the sucker who will fall for anything 'new' or 'cherry doubleshot'.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 08 February 2014, 19:43:43
It's still got the same free shipping within the US, so $70 shipped.  Extra $20 over the original price.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: ebacho on Sat, 08 February 2014, 19:47:11
even at $50 I couldn't call it a good deal. It's not really usable, so it's all about either collecting or stripping for parts.

At 80+ (70+shipping) it's a significantly poorer deal.

This is definitely for the sucker who will fall for anything 'new' or 'cherry doubleshot'.

It's certainly a unique piece with an interesting history at least, unlike other boards on the market today.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 09 February 2014, 09:12:07
even at $50 I couldn't call it a good deal. It's not really usable, so it's all about either collecting or stripping for parts.

At 80+ (70+shipping) it's a significantly poorer deal.

This is definitely for the sucker who will fall for anything 'new' or 'cherry doubleshot'.

It's certainly a unique piece with an interesting history at least, unlike other boards on the market today.

There are way too many vintage keyboard on the market now with weird layouts. If you don't exercise fiscal discipline, you'll wind up collecting everything under the sun.

When I was in my tens (around ten years old) I collected transformers. In my teens I collected Casio gadget watches. In my late teens I almost started on Soviet Bloc stuff, until I forced myself to give up over-attachment to material things.

Now I don't regret it. $50 or $70 or $7000 may be cheap to a collector, but I don't see the point of amassing a collection of 1000 weird looking keyboards that you can never use. If you can use it, you can make it yours.

I use a Model F XT very often despite its weird layout, so I am pleased to say it's truly mine. I also own a TG3 Police keyboard but never use it. I know I own it, but I cannot actually tell you where it is because I can't remember. Is that mine? It's out of sight, out of mind. If a thief swiped it from my house I might not know for years because that keyboard is not in my rotation list.

So my question to those who think $70 is still cheap is this: if a thief broke into your house and stole your weirdo keyboard, would you actually miss it? If you won't even notice it gone, I would say even $7 is too much to pay for that keyboard.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: laden3 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 09:31:31
This is a keyboard forum, people collect keyboards?
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: ZeDestructor on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:14:47
even at $50 I couldn't call it a good deal. It's not really usable, so it's all about either collecting or stripping for parts.

At 80+ (70+shipping) it's a significantly poorer deal.

This is definitely for the sucker who will fall for anything 'new' or 'cherry doubleshot'.

It's certainly a unique piece with an interesting history at least, unlike other boards on the market today.

There are way too many vintage keyboard on the market now with weird layouts. If you don't exercise fiscal discipline, you'll wind up collecting everything under the sun.

When I was in my tens (around ten years old) I collected transformers. In my teens I collected Casio gadget watches. In my late teens I almost started on Soviet Bloc stuff, until I forced myself to give up over-attachment to material things.

Now I don't regret it. $50 or $70 or $7000 may be cheap to a collector, but I don't see the point of amassing a collection of 1000 weird looking keyboards that you can never use. If you can use it, you can make it yours.

I use a Model F XT very often despite its weird layout, so I am pleased to say it's truly mine. I also own a TG3 Police keyboard but never use it. I know I own it, but I cannot actually tell you where it is because I can't remember. Is that mine? It's out of sight, out of mind. If a thief swiped it from my house I might not know for years because that keyboard is not in my rotation list.

So my question to those who think $70 is still cheap is this: if a thief broke into your house and stole your weirdo keyboard, would you actually miss it? If you won't even notice it gone, I would say even $7 is too much to pay for that keyboard.

At the same time though, I have an AT101W and an Acer 6331 (or is it 6311?) I almost never use. I wouldn't really mind losing either, since I got both for free, but I would notice really rather fast if my current M or Ducky with MX Blacks disappeared.
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:22:08
There are way too many vintage keyboard on the market now with weird layouts. If you don't exercise fiscal discipline, you'll wind up collecting everything under the sun.

When I was in my tens (around ten years old) I collected transformers. In my teens I collected Casio gadget watches. In my late teens I almost started on Soviet Bloc stuff, until I forced myself to give up over-attachment to material things.

Now I don't regret it. $50 or $70 or $7000 may be cheap to a collector, but I don't see the point of amassing a collection of 1000 weird looking keyboards that you can never use. If you can use it, you can make it yours.

I use a Model F XT very often despite its weird layout, so I am pleased to say it's truly mine. I also own a TG3 Police keyboard but never use it. I know I own it, but I cannot actually tell you where it is because I can't remember. Is that mine? It's out of sight, out of mind. If a thief swiped it from my house I might not know for years because that keyboard is not in my rotation list.

So my question to those who think $70 is still cheap is this: if a thief broke into your house and stole your weirdo keyboard, would you actually miss it? If you won't even notice it gone, I would say even $7 is too much to pay for that keyboard.

This argument transcends the scope of this thread and is more on the philosophical side of collecting vs. practicality.  I'm certain that for every person who will read this thread and will be interested in buying this keyboard just because, there will be a person who will shrug and decide that it's not practical enough for them.  Certainly most regulars on this forum own more than one keyboard for personal use (just an educated guess), so practicality goes out of the window for most of us simply starting with the fact that no one needs more than one keyboard per computer (unless for some specialized use).

P.S.: 4 sold so far
Title: Re: G80-3314 HAU ($50 shipped CONUS)
Post by: ZeDestructor on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:29:08
the fact that no one needs more than one keyboard per computer (unless for some specialized use).

Trudat. I keep a Dell SK-8815 barebones USB keyboard lying around as my debugging keyboard of debugging. It's the only one I have that is standard, native USB (My Ducky has dodgy USB thanks to NKRO hack) and everything PS/2 is through a converter.