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Title: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: kskwerl on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:38:02
I never had reds but it was available in blue/red so I chose red. Feels like I'm typing on paper, is there anyway to increase the feel of these to make it feel more like BLACKS LOLLL
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: kskwerl on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:38:56
LMAO I also ordered the white one and I got a black one ROFL XFD cranked, jokes on me  :thumb:

took 3 weeks to get too LOLLLLLLLLLLL
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 08 February 2014, 15:17:10
what?
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: kskwerl on Sat, 08 February 2014, 15:58:57
I ordered Leopold 210TP in white and got a black one. I've also never used MX reds before, they are so light compared to blues/topre. I want to know if there is any kind of mod I can do to make the MX reds feel more like blues/brown/black
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:04:29
Just add heavier springs and you get blacks, browns and blues are different types of switches.
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: kskwerl on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:05:04
I ordered this
http://imgur.com/XJGNb7W,yoKNGtP

This is what I got

http://imgur.com/XJGNb7W,yoKNGtP#1
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: kskwerl on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:06:07
Just add heavier springs and you get blacks, browns and blues are different types of switches.

Thanks man, can you point me to wear I can get some heavier springs? Never modded a keyboard before  :-[
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:10:47
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
Blacks are 60g, but I'd look up some guides first just to make sure you know what you're doing
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: kskwerl on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:28:31
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
Blacks are 60g, but I'd look up some guides first just to make sure you know what you're doing

yea that would be a good idea since I don't have a clue and also no idea how to open up this numpad, thanks again for your help
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:37:25
np
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: quickcrx702 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 18:44:58
Another option if you want spare parts is to buy a used Cherry MX black POS keyboard on ebay, they can be had for $20 sometimes.  Just swap the springs.  Example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/G80-11900LUMEU-0-Cherry-Model-MX-11900-USB-CYA-White-Keyboard-W-Touchpad-/271225181010?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f2647d352
Just make sure that it's actually MX Black or MX clear.  Email the seller, ask them to pop a keycap with a butterknife and take a picture.  If not just keep searching on ebay, a cheap board will turn up.

As suggested earlier, the springs only option would be better if you only want springs, and don't care about spare keycaps, switches, etc.  Also, Leopold keyboards are plate mounted as far as I know, which makes them much more of a PITA to mod than a standard PCB mount.  You would need to be handy with a sodomy iron, vs just using tiny screwdrivers to pop open the switch housing.  Unless your time isn't worth much, or you really want to learn about keyboard modding by taking a hands on approach, it's better to just buy another board.
Title: Re: Leopold 210TP with MX Red, Can I increase force?
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 08 February 2014, 18:47:21
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
Blacks are 60g, but I'd look up some guides first just to make sure you know what you're doing

Stock blacks are 60g at actuation. Korean springs are measured by bottom out force. So you need something heavier than 60g in terms of korean springs.

However the cheapest way to do this is just buy some blacks and swap them, or just buy springs. Then you desolder and swap and resolder.