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Title: Model M on modern pc
Post by: ianxblog on Sun, 09 February 2014, 02:54:44
Does the IBM Model M fully work on a modern PC using a AT to PS/2 adapter?

That's it, thanks :)
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 03:12:31
Yes.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: damorgue on Sun, 09 February 2014, 03:15:23
Not guaranteed. Even though your motherboard has a PS/2 connector it might not be able to supply enough current, something which has been an issue with PS/2 ports on modern motherboards.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: ianxblog on Sun, 09 February 2014, 03:19:51
How can i know?

Its a pretty "dated" motherboard. Bought on 2009

GA-G31M-ES2C rev 1
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: quickcrx702 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 03:53:58
http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UNI0P4A
http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: EDI on Sun, 09 February 2014, 04:50:17
Not guaranteed. Even though your motherboard has a PS/2 connector it might not be able to supply enough current, something which has been an issue with PS/2 ports on modern motherboards.

I thought this "not enough current" thing only applied to USB to PS/2 adapters.
AT and PS/2 are basically the same connector. PS/2 is only smaller.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 February 2014, 07:43:18
You start losing current as soon as you leave the source.

Every inch of wire and every mechanical connection causes you to lose something, so you should always strive to keep cable lengths and numbers of connections to a minimum.

That said, I have been pretty lucky, and have used long cables and multiple connectors with few problems.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: aref on Sun, 09 February 2014, 10:57:26
I recently bought a new PC and my Model M KBs work fine under PS/2 and USB.
Also, I found the standard Model M cable allows for all functions to work as they
should. An (aftermarket) USB cable I bought would not wake my PC; and occasionally
the keyboard would lag. When I went back to the standard Model M cable, the KB
worked with no issues.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:02:18
Not guaranteed. Even though your motherboard has a PS/2 connector it might not be able to supply enough current, something which has been an issue with PS/2 ports on modern motherboards.

Interesting info, I stand corrected...
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:47:48
my model m will function after booting with the generic (purple end) converter- but no LED's.......

the generic (purple end) works with all my other ps2 boards- no issues

works like a charm with the "ziotec" straight up- immediately :thumb:
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: kod on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:06:15
I've had no trouble using model Ms on reasonably modern dell desktops with a generic adaptor.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: aref on Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:12:59
http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UNI0P4A
http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A

I have a Unicomp Ultra Classic and it's a nice keyboard. Lexmark's buckling-spring switch, licensed by IBM and I was told taken over by Unicomp, is a nice switch. It has a slightly different feel from my original IBM Model Ms, requiring a little less down force to actuate each key; and (to me) the keys feel as if they have a bit more travel than my original Model Ms. Regardless, the keyboards are a good buy and perform flawlessly on older and newer PCs. I first used mine on a five-year-old PC and now on a new Dell desktop. I picked up a black Ultra Classic with gray key caps; it looks great and is not as wide as a traditional Model M; and at $79, it's a good value. I'd use it more of the time if I wasn't so enamored of my RF87U and SSK.
Title: Re: Model M on modern pc
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 10 February 2014, 22:44:35
my model m will function after booting with the generic (purple end) converter- but no LED's.......

the generic (purple end) works with all my other ps2 boards- no issues

works like a charm with the "ziotec" straight up- immediately :thumb:

I'm not convinced that purpose one is as generic as you may think. It looks like the excellent ID innovations multimode USB adapter and should perform admirably without issue.