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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: MOZ on Mon, 10 February 2014, 01:21:11
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Since there many of the GHers who have CMYK or RGB sets, and almost all of them skip on the Menu/Win/Fn keys, I suggest having a Menu/Win key GB for colors that would go well with with the existing GMK/non-GMK RGB/CMY/other sets.
Note:
1. I would like to go with GMK, not SP, so here are the color choices:
(http://i.imgur.com/01fsu7a.jpg)
2. Existing color schemes: BoCMY, WoCMY, WoRGB, BoRGB, WoP
3. Recommended colors, I suggest purple for CMY and purple scheme, and yellow for RGB
4. Recommend sets:
Set to go with CMYW/K (15 keys all profile B) -- Black: CR, White: CP, Purple: DY, Yellow: CV, Green: AE:
2x 1.25u Win Key (BoP) -- Match CMYK (Ivan's GB)
2x 1.00u Win Key (BoP) -- Match CMYK (Ivan's GB)
1x 1.25u Menu Key (BoG) -- Match CMYK (Ivan's GB)
1x 1.00u Menu key (BoG) -- Match CMYK (Ivan's GB)
2x 1.25u Win Key (WoP) -- Match CMYW (Dubsgalore's GB)
2x 1.00u Win Key (WoP) -- Match CMYW (Dubsgalore's GB)
1x 1.25u Menu Key (WoG) -- Match CMYW (Dubsgalore's GB)
1x 1.00u Menu key (WoG) -- Match CMYW (Dubsgalore's GB)
1x 1.00u Fn Key (BoY) -- Match CMYK (Ivan's GB)
2x 1.00u Fn Key (WoY) -- Match CMYW (Dubsgalore's GB)
Set to go with RGBW/K (14 keys all profile B) -- Black: CR, White: CP, Green: N7, Yellow: CV, Purple: DY:
2x 1.25u Win Key (BoY) -- Match RGBK (Team-Redline's GB, KBD-MOD)
2x 1.00u Win Key (BoY) -- Match RGBK (Team-Redline's GB, KBD-MOD)
1x 1.25u Menu Key (BoP) -- Match RGBK (Team-Redline's GB, KBD-MOD)
1x 1.00u Menu key (BoP) -- Match RGBK (Team-Redline's GB, KBD-MOD)
2x 1.25u Win Key (WoY) -- Match RGBW (Elite-Keyboard's shop, KBD-MOD)
2x 1.00u Win Key (WoY) -- Match RGBW (KBD-MOD)
1x 1.25u Menu Key (WoP) -- Match RGBW (Elite-Keyboard's shop, KBD-MOD)
1x 1.00u Menu key (WoP) -- Match RGBW (KBD-MOD)
2x 1.00u Fn Key (BoG) -- Match RGBK (Team-Redline's GB)
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Possibly interested.
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I really do not use the menu key. I have it remapped as an additional FN key for my own chords combinations. I may be interested in the win and fn. Interested in the WoP and suggest a white on dark grey (CC) combination. And for size 1.25u and 1u are all we ever need.
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interested for sure
interested in RGB pack too
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I would even be interested (maybe even more so) in a pack of blank keys in the bottom profile in both 1x and 1.25x of all the above colours.
It could be called the FN-pack.
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Very interested your IC. Especially that is BoW :) . When do you have mockup?
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The color options are too many in my opinion, hence bring up lot of keys with a color that someone might not like it. Aside by a lot of keys, the price is also a concern i believe.
Besides, what window and menu logo u plan to use? I believe the preference vary by very much too. I do understand how hard it is to please everyone :-X .
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I am really interested in this and I totally agree with you color choices and options. Will order this set in a heartbeat once the GB goes live :p
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Small correction: There was no intention of BoW, it was suppose to by BoY.
So essentially it is, black and white on yellow and purple.
This would go in-synergy with the existing black and white on CMY and RGB sets out there, creating a more consistent keyboard
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Even though I don't have keyboard that have those keys, I am still interested just because they are gmk
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Colorful ...Intrested in RGB
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Almighty MOZ, you are a saviour! Super interested! This should help out the MOQs of the other ones.
P.s. I'd love a 1.25u fn in WoG :)
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Color me interested
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possibly interested, but there isn't a black on purple set made yet I believe? Unless Ivan is planning this in the future which he might have mentioned?
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I'm interested
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Interested.
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Will be interested for purple only, since there's already have green and yellow keys available on previous/current group buy.
Black/White on Purple:
One FN 1x, 1.25x
Two Win 1x, 1.25x
One Menu 1x, 1.25x
16 keys in total.
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Will be interested for purple only, since there's already have green and yellow keys available on previous/current group buy.
Black/White on Purple:
One FN 1x, 1.25x
Two Win 1x, 1.25x
One Menu 1x, 1.25x
16 keys in total.
Can you please link to where these keys have been available in green/yellow?
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Will be interested for purple only, since there's already have green and yellow keys available on previous/current group buy.
Black/White on Purple:
One FN 1x, 1.25x
Two Win 1x, 1.25x
One Menu 1x, 1.25x
16 keys in total.
Can you please link to where these keys have been available in green/yellow?
Sorry, I actually want to mean the green is being used for shift and fn keys the on the gb run by feng currently.
Same for win key with yellow color as well.
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Will be interested for purple only, since there's already have green and yellow keys available on previous/current group buy.
Black/White on Purple:
One FN 1x, 1.25x
Two Win 1x, 1.25x
One Menu 1x, 1.25x
16 keys in total.
Can you please link to where these keys have been available in green/yellow?
Sorry, I actually want to mean the green is being used for shift and fn keys the on the gb run by feng currently.
Same for win key with yellow color as well.
I think Purple win & menu caps is better than yellow color ;)
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I'm VERY interested in the white on purple keys but I think the set should include the Win, Menu, and Fn keys. Go big or if that's not possible then at least have the third key as an add-on option.
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As I think most would put this with CMY[K/W] I would be in favour of dropping the WoY and BoY Win/Menu keys (too much yellow for me :p) and adding 1.25u fn in the same colours as 1.00u fn keys. Which would drop the overall amount of keys by 8, possibly meaning this could hit around the $30 or less mark -judging by $35 for 22 keys including lots of shifts for CMYW. Just my thoughts :)
Edit: ...Or just include 1.25u blanks in purple and green. That would satisfy my fn needs.
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2x shift!
edit: interested.
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Made some changes to the sets:
-- Separated the set into two, one matching the RGB, one matching the CMY sets. I won't segregate further into CMYK/CMYW/RGBY/RGBW as hitting MOQ might be hard in that case.
-- Removed 1.00u Fn white-on-green as there are no 1.75u white-on-green shifts to match (If there is please let me know, so I can add it back into the set)
-- CMY matching set has 2 1.00u Fn white-on-yellow keys to match one CMYW set which can populate two boards with 1.75 shift, unlike CMYK set, which can populate only one, and hence only one black-on-yellow 1.00u Fn is part of the set
-- Similarly two 1.00u black-on-green FN have been included in the RGB set to populate and match two RGB sets
-- Added information for existing sets
Note:
1. This is not a Round 2 for the existing sets in RGB or CMY, rather it is a complimentary set, to have all color mods for the two bottom rows.
2. The black-on-purple isn't intended to match any existing purple sets but two match the CMYK set, as white-on-purple would not go well with black-on-CMY.
3. I know Feng's new GB has yellow WIN keys, but is lacking MENU keys, and isn't a viable option for those already with RGB sets and looking to add only yellow WIN/MENU keys.
Please let me know what other colored 1.25u Fn keys would you like (As there seems to be strong interest), please mention the set it is supposed to match (CMY or RGB).
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Again, I'll just say that instead of purple fn/menu in 1.25; why not purple win key + green (AE) fn key (1x WoP/BoP win + 1x WoG/BoG fn) to match the CMY sets--these can replace the purple fn/menu keys. And are menu keys still necessary? Shouldn't the 'fn key' just replace that, so we can save some space? As for the 1u keys, I have no clue :P
tl;dr
Replace:
1x WoP menu, 1.25u
1x BoP menu, 1.25u
Add-in:
1x WoG fn, 1.25u
1x BoG fn, 1.25u
* G = GMK AE green
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It does actually make sense to replace the purple menu keys with green ones and similarly, yellow menu with purple menu, as the menu and win key will be the only two different keys in same color, will look out of place. Good suggestion :)
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1. Menu key or Fn key?
2. Old WIN logo or new one?
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I'm not sure on purple menu for the RGB set, but yeah I'd love for all contrasting colours for each set ;P. Maybe orange (V2) menu/fn for that one?
As for 1/2
1. Fn key definitely
2. Windows 8 one is fine imo ^^
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I'm going to ask someone with the caps to take a shot of purple with RGB.
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I'll get in on the CMYW/K set.
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Looking forward to seeing this happen :)
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It's a good idea. I think it would also be nice to pick some color with white/black legend for backspace, tab and caps lock so one could have all colorful mods along with cheap used sets to fill in along with what is missing at EK.
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It's a good idea. I think it would also be nice to pick some color with white/black legend for backspace, tab and caps lock so one could have all colorful mods along with cheap used sets to fill in along with what is missing at EK.
Suggestions are welcome :D
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I think a full touch caps lock at the least would be a good idea. Most used set come with stepped and most are not able to use this. Maybe on V2?
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I think a full touch caps lock at the least would be a good idea. Most used set come with stepped and most are not able to use this. Maybe on V2?
Very good idea! A centerstemmed capslock key that matches CMY keys and also goes well with black/beige alphas would be awesome!
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Open to color suggestions for:
Caps lock
Tab
Backspace
Enter
again matching the CMY/RGB sets
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What about V2 orange for capslock and enter (same row) and CC grey for Tab and backspace?
Personally, I think a capslock and an enter key would be enough for these add on sets. These two keys would go well with the symmetry the RGB/CMY mod sets provide. Even more colors on a single board might be overkill. Furthermore it would blow up the price even more.
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I like the new sets separated for CMY and RGB. I think adding all of the modifiers would muddy it up too much, the amount of colours and choices you would have to cater for would start to increase the price and possibly put people off. That being said, I do think you could get away with caps + enter as Lechner says. As long as you add a 1.25 FN key!! :P
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So everybody onboard with replacing menu key with Fn key?
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I think keep both. I don't think anyone needs 2x1.00u fn keys in the same colour, so just drop one of those and add 1x1.25u for each fn colour.
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+1 for keeping both and having size options that will work on a Filco.
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Fn legend doesn't exist in anything but 1x1 yet.
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Then include blanks? Some blank purple caps would be cool. Can't increase the cost by more than $2 a key.
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I'm for anything that gets more color (in a classy way) on GMK sets.
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What's the word on this? I really hope this sees the light of day.
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Fn legend doesn't exist in anything but 1x1 yet.
Is there a generic icon we can use then, like SP has the diamond, as blanks would look out of place with other DS caps.
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Then include blanks? Some blank purple caps would be cool. Can't increase the cost by more than $2 a key.
I think blanks are a good idea. It lets you use the keys for other purposes, not just the bottom for for win/fn/menu.
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Fn legend doesn't exist in anything but 1x1 yet.
Is there a generic icon we can use then, like SP has the diamond, as blanks would look out of place with other DS caps.
How about this?
(http://i.imgur.com/OsEwato.jpg)
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I'm not sure what you are trying to show :confused:
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I'm not sure what you are trying to show :confused:
That was my mistake for posting late at night/early in the morning when I should have just succumbed to sleep. I thought you were talking about the Menu key.
As you were.
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I think their doubleshot old XP style windows and menu key look ****. They were the first new legends they ever cut as far as I understand... and they look like it too. Nowhere near as refined looking as new 8 style.
Just remember in blanks, you must add in even numbers to avoid ending up in the old 400 MOQ tier. Add blanks don't add that much cost, and if it stops whining and boosts interest might as well.
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I think their doubleshot old XP style windows and menu key look ****. They were the first new legends they ever cut as far as I understand... and they look like it too. Nowhere near as refined looking as new 8 style.
Totally agree, I absolutely hate those old legends. I can dig it on my Classic Beige set for the nostalgia but it looks out of place on more modern sets.
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Any word on a GB start date? Or are we still judging initial interest?
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I think their doubleshot old XP style windows and menu key look ****. They were the first new legends they ever cut as far as I understand... and they look like it too. Nowhere near as refined looking as new 8 style.
Totally agree, I absolutely hate those old legends. I can dig it on my Classic Beige set for the nostalgia but it looks out of place on more modern sets.
I really like the idea of Windows 8 legends on Purple GMK :p
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Still open for discussion, I won't be starting any new GB until I complete my current ones, if anyone wants to pick it up by then, they are welcome to do so. Otherwise, I might start the GB myself.
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A capslock and the Win/Fn Keys in Cherry profile are exactly what I'm looking for. Let's do this!
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interested in:
2 1.25x win8 key
2 1x win8 key
1 1.25x menu key
1 1x menu key
3 1.25x blanks
3 1x blanks
in both purple and yellow. 24 keys total. although I think this might be too many keys for others :(
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Interested in anything GMK at this point (:
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Interested in anything GMK at this point (:
That's the spirit!
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I'll get in on the CMYW/K set.
This for sure. Possibly RGB as well.
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Interested.
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Just a heads up, I am not sure if I will be able to run this GB, because even assuming we get this underway in the next week, we are looking at the end of May/early June as end of production, at which point I do not think I will be in India anymore and back in South Africa, where I am not as well versed with the logistics and would not like to take this on for then.
Having said that, I am willing to work with anyone who is up for handling distribution and offline logistics. If someone wants to run this on their own, they are most welcome to take over. :)
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I can always roll this idea into the next mini pack buy if nothing else.
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I can always roll this idea into the next mini pack buy if nothing else.
Your experience will be appreciated in running this set as part of your upcoming GBs.
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Thank you Ivan, I will continue the discussions in this thread and mockup some sets so the workload on you is reduced later.
I had a couple of other things planned, for which I am awaiting on replies, if those go through, we can add those to these mini packs.
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I can always roll this idea into the next mini pack buy if nothing else.
ivan is such a tease...
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How so am I a tease? For the most part I do what I say I will if there is enough interest to carry it through... sometimes I am super slow about it I do admit.
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haha, don't worry. you're a good tease.
you always show us interesting things. it's good for everyone that you actually follow through.
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I need more GMK
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yay ivan do it up