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Title: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:12:14
I was thinking about designing and printing a nice base that tents the ergodox for better ergonomics. Has anyone done this before?

I dont have an ergodox yet(ordered it last month from massdrop), but I think I can design something before I receive it. I was thinking about making adding lead weights(The type that you stick on to car wheels) to the inner part of the base, in order to give it a nice heft. Anyhow, tell me what you guys thing.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: lcs on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:16:11
Yes, it is a good idea.

I don't know if someone made one themselves, but you can just use something like this (http://www.amazon.com/Standoff-Hex-Head-Screw-Pcs/dp/B00CTWD4EQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1382490240&sr=8-5&keywords=standoffs).

I would gladly get some depending on the price, if you made one :)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:18:14
Yes, it is a good idea.

I don't know if someone made one themselves, but you can just use something like this (http://www.amazon.com/Standoff-Hex-Head-Screw-Pcs/dp/B00CTWD4EQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1382490240&sr=8-5&keywords=standoffs).

I would gladly get some depending on the price, if you made one :)

That would probably scratch up your desk. I've seen people use those and then have a towel underneath, so thats not so pretty. I'll design something on CAD really quickly and show you what I plan on doing.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: lcs on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:21:25
Good point, I haven't thought about the scratching. I can't find those easily here in Brasil anyway :P I saw that in some modelling shops I could get plastic ones, but didn't check in person.

Waiting for your design :)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: daerid on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:23:39
Yes, yes, and more yes.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:35:00
I did this in a couple of minutes
(I could also add holes so that you could bolt it on to your ergodox using the existing screwholes, but you may need to buy slightly longer bolts)
(http://i.imgur.com/YcQ8MeG.jpg)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:45:02
you guys ever think of re-purposing 2 android tablet covers and use them as a tenting base?

tablet cover (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9B6BLK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00H9B6BLK&linkCode=as2&tag=420usa-20)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: lcs on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:50:33
I did this in a couple of minutes
(I could also add holes so that you could bolt it on to your ergodox using the existing screwholes, but you may need to buy slightly longer bolts)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YcQ8MeG.jpg)


I would like to bolt it to the edox itself.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:52:09
I did this in a couple of minutes
(I could also add holes so that you could bolt it on to your ergodox using the existing screwholes, but you may need to buy slightly longer bolts)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YcQ8MeG.jpg)


I would like to bolt it to the edox itself.

Exactly, I can line up the holes to the existing holes and then bolt everything together.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: lcs on Thu, 13 February 2014, 18:56:04
I did this in a couple of minutes
(I could also add holes so that you could bolt it on to your ergodox using the existing screwholes, but you may need to buy slightly longer bolts)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YcQ8MeG.jpg)


I would like to bolt it to the edox itself.

Exactly, I can line up the holes to the existing holes and then bolt everything together.

That would be perfect :) :)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 19:09:36
you guys ever think of re-purposing 2 android tablet covers and use them as a tenting base?

tablet cover (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9B6BLK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00H9B6BLK&linkCode=as2&tag=420usa-20)

That would probably be really unstable, considering that its not meant to take any real loads.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: SonOfSonOfSpock on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:32:07
That looks like a great idea!
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:54:15
That looks like a great idea!
Thanks. All I really need is an ergodox so that I can make some prototypes. I ordered mine on Massdrop recently, but the wait-time is pretty pretty long.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:02:58
I would think a base that could be essentially another plate on the bottom with some sort of adjustable mechanism would be the best way to go as not everyone likes the same amount of tenting.  There are a couple ideas floating in my head right now that could work, though it would add to the cad work, complexity of the build and cost.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: Larken on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:20:38
As an alternative, the Kinesis v3 lifters suggested by Glod have served me pretty well for the last 6 months, plus it has 3 different angles @ 5, 10 and 15 degrees. I use velcro, but someone handy could probably just drill a few holes in the bottom plate and the lifters if they want to secure it using bolts.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/9158764321_032ca5c5d0_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: davkol on Fri, 14 February 2014, 06:20:17
I'm interested in some alternative to Kinesis V3. Given my access to a 3D printer, it sounds like a better option than overpaying for shipped proprietary stand.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 14 February 2014, 06:36:54
Interested.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: kod on Fri, 14 February 2014, 08:59:17
Just from eyeballing the 3d render, I'd recommend reducing the overall height.  It's already a really tall keyboard, and if you tent it in such a way that the lower edge of the case is even higher off the ground...
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 18:31:40
Just from eyeballing the 3d render, I'd recommend reducing the overall height.  It's already a really tall keyboard, and if you tent it in such a way that the lower edge of the case is even higher off the ground...

Thanks for the suggestion, Theres a couple of other ways I can design it. I'm going to find ways to:

1. Decrease the amount of material used
2. Design it so that the angle could be adjusted between 5/10/15 degrees(are those the most popular angles)
3. make it look cool :)
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: h1ro on Sat, 15 February 2014, 09:00:58
There are also the tented case models on the ergodox.org site itself:

http://ergodox.org/Downloads.aspx

But yes, definitely interested here too
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: Canut on Mon, 17 February 2014, 12:35:59
Subscribed.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Mon, 17 February 2014, 12:51:25
Subscribed.
Thanks, although It will take at least a month until I'll be able to print constantly. I have access to printers in my school, but I've also ordered my own printer which I am patiently waiting on.

If anyone wants to volunteer I can send someone a prototype to see if it fits correctly, Although you will have to pay for shipping, and it will only be one side.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: davkol on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:37:16
If you could share a design, it'd be enough, because hackerspaces are all over the place nowadays.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: CJNE on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:05:43
As an alternative, the Kinesis v3 lifters suggested by Glod have served me pretty well for the last 6 months, plus it has 3 different angles @ 5, 10 and 15 degrees. I use velcro, but someone handy could probably just drill a few holes in the bottom plate and the lifters if they want to secure it using bolts.
Hmm, are those all plastic parts? It might be possible to 3d print something similar to those as an option...

Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:43:31
As an alternative, the Kinesis v3 lifters suggested by Glod have served me pretty well for the last 6 months, plus it has 3 different angles @ 5, 10 and 15 degrees. I use velcro, but someone handy could probably just drill a few holes in the bottom plate and the lifters if they want to secure it using bolts.
Hmm, are those all plastic parts? It might be possible to 3d print something similar to those as an option...

Well 3d printing has it's quirks. I wouldn't design a. 3d printed part in that fashion since I believe it would be more fragile then let's say a sold block. Of course I could do some testing and whatnot, but I don't think it's doable.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 17 February 2014, 18:00:22
There is one topic already talking about this idea.
I don't remember where I saved the dammed link ...

The idea is simple: we need one design with less bridges, something between the original ErgoDox case and that acrylic one.

To be honest I said there that I would draw one case using this idea but I'm still trying to find some free time to make it.

The plate is almost done, now I'm drawing the bottom part of the case to fit into this plate ...
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Mon, 17 February 2014, 18:17:42
There is one topic already talking about this idea.
I don't remember where I saved the dammed link ...

The idea is simple: we need one design with less bridges, something between the original ErgoDox case and that acrylic one.

To be honest I said there that I would draw one case using this idea but I'm still trying to find some free time to make it.

The plate is almost done, now I'm drawing the bottom part of the case to fit into this plate ...

I have all the dimensions for the original case, but I don't have any dimensions for the layered acrylic case. Do you have that?
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 18 February 2014, 15:27:20
There is one topic already talking about this idea.
I don't remember where I saved the dammed link ...

The idea is simple: we need one design with less bridges, something between the original ErgoDox case and that acrylic one.

To be honest I said there that I would draw one case using this idea but I'm still trying to find some free time to make it.

The plate is almost done, now I'm drawing the bottom part of the case to fit into this plate ...

I have all the dimensions for the original case, but I don't have any dimensions for the layered acrylic case. Do you have that?
Yes, I do.
Last week I soldered one for LCS and I checked the case dimensions (massdrop acrylic case).
The acrylic case is almost the same one done by lister, only a few cosmetic changes.

3mm top
4mm spacer
5mm plate
4mm spacer
3mm bottom
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: luis911 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 15:34:34
There is one topic already talking about this idea.
I don't remember where I saved the dammed link ...

The idea is simple: we need one design with less bridges, something between the original ErgoDox case and that acrylic one.

To be honest I said there that I would draw one case using this idea but I'm still trying to find some free time to make it.

The plate is almost done, now I'm drawing the bottom part of the case to fit into this plate ...

I have all the dimensions for the original case, but I don't have any dimensions for the layered acrylic case. Do you have that?
Yes, I do.
Last week I soldered one for LCS and I checked the case dimensions (massdrop acrylic case).
The acrylic case is almost the same one done by lister, only a few cosmetic changes.

3mm top
4mm spacer
5mm plate
4mm spacer
3mm bottom
I think the through-holes are positioned completely differently. Perhaps the holes where you mount the PCB are the same relative to one another, but the holes to bolt the layers together are completely different. I haven't found any accurate dimensions for that. I can definitely calculate it by digitally  layering the drawing of the acrylic case on top of the original case and lining up the PCB mount through holes, but I would want to be 100% sure.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 20 February 2014, 06:48:50
There is one topic already talking about this idea.
I don't remember where I saved the dammed link ...

The idea is simple: we need one design with less bridges, something between the original ErgoDox case and that acrylic one.

To be honest I said there that I would draw one case using this idea but I'm still trying to find some free time to make it.

The plate is almost done, now I'm drawing the bottom part of the case to fit into this plate ...

I have all the dimensions for the original case, but I don't have any dimensions for the layered acrylic case. Do you have that?
Yes, I do.
Last week I soldered one for LCS and I checked the case dimensions (massdrop acrylic case).
The acrylic case is almost the same one done by lister, only a few cosmetic changes.

3mm top
4mm spacer
5mm plate
4mm spacer
3mm bottom
I think the through-holes are positioned completely differently. Perhaps the holes where you mount the PCB are the same relative to one another, but the holes to bolt the layers together are completely different. I haven't found any accurate dimensions for that. I can definitely calculate it by digitally  layering the drawing of the acrylic case on top of the original case and lining up the PCB mount through holes, but I would want to be 100% sure.
I think you are right - I didn't checked the screw holes at all.
However I'll ignore these screw holes cause my main idea is to reduce the border size - for my design I think that only the PCB dimensions and switch posintions are important.
I'm still drawing the sketches - only the plate is ready and I'll change it in order to fit into the bottom case.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: boxfulofsanity on Wed, 02 April 2014, 12:55:32
I'm interested in a 3D printed tent!
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: OldDataHands on Sat, 12 April 2014, 12:13:29
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57001.0
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: duq on Sat, 12 April 2014, 16:34:14
In.
Title: Re: Would anyone be interested in a 3d printed Ergodox tent?
Post by: Ch0nG on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:44:42
I would be interested in a full-hand version made for a standing desk (e.g. the steepest part is opposite of the Teensy).