It looks to me that the Ergodox is a mere copy of the Kinesis advantage, but without the ergonomic shape design.I thought the point is that a lot of people type with the elbows bent and their wrists crooked while typing on a normal keyboard, so since you can move the ergodox wherever you feel like it would sit properly and you can tent it.
If I were the designer of the ergodox, I would have made each half shape like Razer Nostromo, because Ergodox does not look any more comfortable than a normal keyboard, all it adds is the extra utilisation of the thumbs.
The height elevation seem to the be same as a normal keyboard, so your hand will still have to be crooked while typing on the ergodox.
Anyway, if this were phrased in a more productive way, it would actually be a good question,
Please stop with the flame-bait. I know it’s useless to ask trolls to be nice, but a man can dream.
Anyway, if this were phrased in a more productive way, it would actually be a good question, unlike all the other threads you’ve started in the past week. So almost congratulations.
The Ergodox is better than typical keyboards in many ways, but it is clearly not perfect, and in particular the thumb key layout could definitely be improved. If you can propose an alternate design, and are willing to mock it up / prototype it (or convince someone else to), I’m sure folks would be receptive to improvements.
If you can propose an alternate design, and are willing to mock it up / prototype it (or convince someone else to), I’m sure folks would be receptive to improvements.
The height elevation seem to the be same as a normal keyboard, so your hand will still have to be crooked while typing on the ergodox.
Please stop with the flame-bait. I know it’s useless to ask trolls to be nice, but a man can dream.
Anyway, if this were phrased in a more productive way, it would actually be a good question, unlike all the other threads you’ve started in the past week. So almost congratulations.
The Ergodox is better than typical keyboards in many ways, but it is clearly not perfect, and in particular the thumb key layout could definitely be improved. If you can propose an alternate design, and are willing to mock it up / prototype it (or convince someone else to), I’m sure folks would be receptive to improvements.
it's okay. you don't need the op's permission to change a bad topic into a good one.
personally, i think from the pics, acidfire's design is spectacular. is this pretty unanimous?
Ergodox is essentially still flat in design. It should at least be curved in shape, or have a palm rest like the Nostromo.It would have been more difficult to engineer the ErgoDox to be curved like the Kinesis. I have tried and could not find a good, affordable way to do it for a DIY keyboard. Kinesis' key wells (like a plate) are injection moulded plastic, which requires an expensive mould to be made, with the cost divided over a large amount of keyboards. It also has an unusual curved PCB behind the switches.
Ergodox is essentially still flat in design. It should at least be curved in shape, or have a palm rest like the Nostromo.It would have been more difficult to engineer the ErgoDox to be curved like the Kinesis. I have tried and could not find a good, affordable way to do it for a DIY keyboard. Kinesis' key wells (like a plate) are injection moulded plastic, which requires an expensive mould to be made, with the cost divided over a large amount of keyboards. It also has an unusual curved PCB behind the switches.
With ErgoDox, all you need is basically an ordinary PCB with the components on it - the plate is actually optional (or rather, it was supposed to be).
One thing I think improves the ErgoDox, making it only slightly more curved, is to use Cherry profile keycaps for the main keys and OEM profile keycaps for the pinky columns, the OEM keycaps being about 1 1/2 mm higher.
There are ErgoDox'es with integrated palm rests. Some kits through Massdrop, others that people have built themselves. There is at least one guy that has broken off the thumb keys to put them at an angle, more like the Nostromo.
It is a DIY keyboard, and it is an open design. It itself was based on the Key64, and it has inspired several others.
BTW. Kinesis has been known to sell separate replacement key wells. Maybe you could build your own based on them. You would still have to provide the thumb keys, etc.
It looks to me that the Ergodox is a mere copy of the Kinesis advantage, but without the ergonomic shape design.
If I were the designer of the ergodox, I would have made each half shape like Razer Nostromo, because Ergodox does not look any more comfortable than a normal keyboard, all it adds is the extra utilisation of the thumbs.
Shouldn't this be in the Ergonomic forum?
Shouldn't this be in the Ergonomic forum?
Do you have pictures link to your keyboards?
Shouldn't this be in the Ergonomic forum?
Do you have pictures link to your keyboards?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vAZsiMM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A4qv2NT.jpg?1)
I much prefer the tented classic with the ErgoDock than the full hand flat. Either is preferable to a standard qwerty board though
So I suppose the Ergodox development is continuous? Will we likely to have to Ergodox 2 or something with better physical design in the future?
So I suppose the Ergodox development is continuous? Will we likely to have to Ergodox 2 or something with better physical design in the future?
The development of anything humans create is continuous:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44940.0
So I suppose the Ergodox development is continuous? Will we likely to have to Ergodox 2 or something with better physical design in the future?
The development of anything humans create is continuous:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44940.0
You know that's not true.
Human are stupid and obstinate creatures.
man, if the ergodox is actually pre-assembled with Filco-like built quality, palm rest and back lights and cost less than $150, then I'd would actually be interested.