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geekhack Community => Ergonomics => Topic started by: hoggy on Tue, 25 February 2014, 11:39:16

Title: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: hoggy on Tue, 25 February 2014, 11:39:16

I thought it would be nice to build up a gallery of lots of ergo keyboards - one that would be useful to browse if you wanted to identify a keyboard, or maybe even find one that you might find useful.

Boards

Boards are listed/grouped so they are close to each other if they look like each other. They are not ordered by merit.

Completely Split
At least two parts that can be placed apart from each other

(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/71/Datahand.jpg)
From webwit (http://deskthority.net/wiki/DataHand_Professional_II)
DataHand Professional II Keyboard

Columnar/ XY / Matrix
(https://d3jqoivu6qpygv.cloudfront.net/img_bucket/ergodox/_W3T2166.jpg)
From Massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/ext/ergodox/assembly.php)
Ergodox

Staggered
Kinesis Evolution
Kinesis Freestyle
Comfort keyboard
BTC 8120

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/hoggyboard/DSC_0290_zpsaxyd8hyd.jpg)
Ergomonixx MyKey

Adjustable Split
The parts cannot be separated, but can be altered a bit.
Staggered

Apple Adjustable

(http://i.imgur.com/C1MdgH9.jpg)
Cherry G80-5000HAMPO (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13934201987268&key=ae397ad5dec9dcac1cf8902258ac4def&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D55234.0&v=1&libId=7866042c-e3b3-4412-8c2f-389c8fa02ee6&out=http%3A%2F%2Fdeskthority.net%2Fwiki%2FCherry_G80-5000&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D125.0&title=Ergo%20Keyboard%20spotters%20guide%20(Wheel%20of%20Keyboards!)&txt=G80-5000HAMPO)
From photekq (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1238272#msg1238272)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg/720px-ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg)
From Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg)
Ergo Logic/Flex Pro keyboards (both made by Chicony)

(http://www.repetitive-strain-injury.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kbpc-dachneigung-seitlich.jpg)
From repetitive-strain-injury.de (http://www.repetitive-strain-injury.de/blog/produktvorstellungen/fujitsu-siemens-tastatur-kbpc-e/)
Fujitsu-Siemens KBPC E keyboard

(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/uhk-with-keycluster-trackball-dark-bg.jpg)
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/ (https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/)
Ultimate Hacking Keyboard (in progress)

Goldtouch

(http://goldtouch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gtu-0088-split.jpg)
From goldtouch.com (http://www.goldtouch.com)
Goldtouch v2

Goldtouch Go

(http://goldtouch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gtp0044-eagle-left.jpg)
From goldtouch.com (http://www.goldtouch.com)
Goldtouch Go2

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/hoggyboard/Matias%20Ergo%20Pro/DSC_0576_zps3zyh0do0.jpg)
http://matias.ca/ergopro/pc/ (http://matias.ca/ergopro/pc/)
Matias Ergo Pro

Pace
Perfectouch 101

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/thehumansolution/smartfish-ergomotion-keyboard-10.jpg)
From http://www.thehumansolution.com/smartfish-ergomotion-keyboard.html (http://www.thehumansolution.com/smartfish-ergomotion-keyboard.html) - unavailable
Smartfish Ergomotion

Touchstream

Symmetric Staggered
µTron
NEC MSeries

Fixed Split

Staggered
Acer 31
Chicony KB-7001

(http://park1.wakwak.com/~kyokugen/toy/keyboard/stealth_1.jpg)
http://park1.wakwak.com/~kyokugen/toy/keyboard/stealth.htm (http://park1.wakwak.com/~kyokugen/toy/keyboard/stealth.htm)
Filco Stealth FKB-92ERG

Marquardt Mini-Ergo
MS Ergo 4000
MS Sculpt

Northgate Omnikey

3D
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39152.0;attach=46704;image)
From Pepstein (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39152.msg1143339#msg1143339)
Kinesis Advantage

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Kinesis-Contoured_Keyboard_Classic-1.jpg)
From Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kinesis-Contoured_Keyboard_Classic-1.jpg)
Kinesis Classic

(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/Dual%20hand%20fully%20ergonomic%20keyboard%20with%20trackball.jpg)
From maltron.com
Maltron 3D with trackball

Columnar/ XY / Matrix
Datadesk/Darwin
Maltron Executive

(http://www.esrille.com/keyboard/photo.jpg)
From Esrille (http://www.esrille.com/keyboard/)
Esrille

(https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/image/data/Truly_Ergonomic_Mechanical_Keyboard-207.jpg)
From Truly Ergonomic (https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/index.php)
Truly Ergonomic Keyboard (TECK)

TypeMatrix 2020
TypeMatrix 2030

(http://www.maltron.com/media/com_hikashop/upload/thumbnails/150x200/2d-black-640_411785153.jpg)
Maltron 2D
From maltron.com (http://www.maltron.com/keyboard-info/maltron-dual-hand-flat-2d-keyboard)

Typematrix 2030
Typematrix 2020

Mixed Split
(http://www.yogitype.com/images/slideshows/home/design.png)
Yogi Type
From yogitype.com (http://www.yogitype.com)

(http://xahlee.info/kbd/i3/scythe/scythe_ergo_diver_keyboard_boxed.jpg)
Ergo diver
From Xah Lee (http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergonomic_keyboards_2.html)

Vertical
Staggered
Safetype

No Split
Staggered
Symmetric Staggered
3D
Columnar/ XY / Matrix

One Handed
(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/lh_single_300x200.jpg)
Left Hand Maltron
From maltron.com (http://www.maltron.com)
Matias Half hand

Other
Orbitouch
Alphagrip

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 11:44:06

(http://i.imgur.com/C1MdgH9.jpg)
From photekq (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1238272#msg1238272)

G80-5000HAMPO (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-5000)

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide
Post by: hoggy on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:17:23

That's a really sweet (& clean) board.

Does anyone know this one?
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/hoggyboard/20140225b_zpscd335e7e.jpg)
(if you're selling one, call me!)

Hint:

The make and model of the keyboard are on the front, so I've used the photo that doesn't show the board off in all it's glory.
It uses alps and was made a company that's still popular today.

[edit]I'll reveal the name this Friday (28th Feb)

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 25 February 2014, 20:08:37

Quote from: hoggy on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:17:23

That's a really sweet (& clean) board.

Does anyone know this one?

Does it count if we didnt know it beforehand but were able to figure it out using clever search-fu?

bytheway, I had some ideas and my guess was right on the manufacturer.

KB uses legit green alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL_Green) with a white for the spacebar.

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide
Post by: Input Nirvana on Tue, 25 February 2014, 22:10:48

Welcome to

WHEEL...…OF…...KEYBOARDS

With your host, Hoggy Hoggerson <raucous applause> and his lovely assistant, Babe-O-Licious <more applause>………………………...

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 00:43:46

Looks like first blood goes to dorkvader! Clever search fu sounds legit to me; you might enjoy the extinct ergo keyboard thread.

Babe? I knew I forgot something...

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 26 February 2014, 00:59:08

Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 11:44:06

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C1MdgH9.jpg)

From photekq (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1238272#msg1238272)

G80-5000HAMPO (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-5000)

That's a bad pic for it CPT, since the keycaps are from a G81-3000SAG.

Here are better pictures : http://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157641268223723/

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 01:01:10

Does anyone want to spin the wheel? I'm sure we could manage with a few boards to ID at the same time.

[edit] Added a few categories - please let me know if you have any suggestions

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 07:56:37

(https://d3jqoivu6qpygv.cloudfront.net/img_bucket/ergodox/_W3T2166.jpg)
From Massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/ext/ergodox/assembly.php)
Ergodox

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39152.0;attach=46704;image)
From Pepstein (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39152.msg1143339#msg1143339)
Kinesis Advantage

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Kinesis-Contoured_Keyboard_Classic-1.jpg)
From Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kinesis-Contoured_Keyboard_Classic-1.jpg)
Kinesis Classic

Can I make a suggestion that there be a little citation of where the pictures are from in the OP? :D

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:35:19

Thanks for that.

Adding a citation is a great idea - thanks! Hope you don't mind me stealing your formatting...

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: Proword on Wed, 26 February 2014, 18:53:27

From the Maltron Website

Left Hand(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/lh_single_300x200.jpg) (http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/singlert_350x233.jpg) Right Hand

Dual 3D Maltron with integrated trackball

(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/Dual%20hand%20fully%20ergonomic%20keyboard%20with%20trackball.jpg)

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: Snarfangel on Wed, 26 February 2014, 19:10:22

Quote from: Proword on Wed, 26 February 2014, 18:53:27

From the Maltron Website

Left Hand
Show Image
(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/lh_single_300x200.jpg)

Show Image
(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/singlert_350x233.jpg)
Right Hand

Dual 3D Maltron with integrated trackball

Show Image
(http://www.maltron.com/images/stories/Dual%20hand%20fully%20ergonomic%20keyboard%20with%20trackball.jpg)

As an aside, I am looking forward to the day a Maltron keyboard will show up to my door unannounced. A Kinesis would also be acceptable. This is in no way a subtle hint.

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 19:29:48

Quote from: hoggy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:35:19

Thanks for that.

Adding a citation is a great idea - thanks! Hope you don't mind me stealing your formatting...

Not at all. Steal away :)

(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/71/Datahand.jpg)
From webwit (http://deskthority.net/wiki/DataHand_Professional_II)
DataHand Professional II Keyboard

(https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/image/data/Truly_Ergonomic_Mechanical_Keyboard-207.jpg)
From Truly Ergonomic (https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/index.php)
Truly Ergonomic Keyboard (TECK)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg/720px-ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg)
From Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg)
I think it's the Ergo Logic and Flex Pro keyboards?

(http://www.repetitive-strain-injury.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kbpc-dachneigung-seitlich.jpg)
From repetitive-strain-injury.de (http://www.repetitive-strain-injury.de/blog/produktvorstellungen/fujitsu-siemens-tastatur-kbpc-e/)
Fujitsu-Siemens KBPC E keyboard

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 00:17:39

Thanks guys!

A hint for the mystery board

It was made by Filco

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:28:23

The mystery board is ...

FILCO FKB-92ERG "Stealth"
(http://park1.wakwak.com/~kyokugen/toy/keyboard/stealth_1.jpg)
http://park1.wakwak.com/~kyokugen/toy/keyboard/stealth.htm (http://park1.wakwak.com/~kyokugen/toy/keyboard/stealth.htm)

Only found it by accident a few days ago. There are more pictures on the site.

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 28 February 2014, 13:23:39

It is difficult to see in the pics, but is it tented also?

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 28 February 2014, 15:35:22

That Ergo Logic and Flex Pro look crazy.

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:21:44

Apparently there was a gold version? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38179.0 http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1968532242?see_lz=1

(http://i.imgur.com/CfcT5qQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zejAv7c.jpg)

Title: Re: Ergo Keyboard spotters guide (Wheel of Keyboards!)
Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:40:12

Also interesting that the Japanese reviewer on that page you linked, hoggy, really disliked the switches the board came with. [clicky green Xiang Min KSB switches? Or did they start out white and the pictured green switches are older linear SKCL Alps he transplanted?]

I love the Google translate summary of the feel after the SKCL green Alps made it in there:

Quote

There is no click-clack feeling inherent in the simple switch of course. In ALPS old mechanical axis and famous highest peak is expected, there is not even love of one minute. This sense of stability does not come true also CHERRY axis. If you are using only this or that ... be keying feeling better than MX5000, and from formed a guy maybe, MX5000 has been gathering dust in the corner of the room. It is a feeling for joy that was disguised as good unexpected somehow, you want to regular for a while. [...]

The sound of keystrokes when is comfortable without even resonate to it is fairly quiet when compared to the MX5000. Keystroke sound MX5000 When you have to be a high-pitched sound of "plock! Plock!", The sound of feeling such as "Tanttan~tsu" It is the impression docile very quiet and green axis Stealth and the continuous keying. This is really all right. The lack of high-pitched sound even with the bottom is very good. Image of feel like, how long out the sound will be collapsed completely mechanical that exists in general. ... It is the feeling that I want to try also mute white axis to become this.

It was thought it might be useless because some, such as first of making the housing to just transplant the switch, but was totally groundless. Existence, really great. [...]

Oh, that's right. Is the best. Key top iron plate mount and keying sense, two-color molding moist and green axis of ALPS, ergo, a ten-less. And I have made changes to the keyboard ideal Oira was jam-packed. It is hoped that doing it put your hands more in the future, we want to further pursue the ideal.

Also, wow, he got that used Filco ergo thingy for 4000 Yen (currently ~$40), and a used Sharp X68000 keyboard for 2000 Yen (~$20) to harvest the green Alps switches from. Not bad!