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Still quite high. I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.
It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.
I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.
It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.
That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is
I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.
It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.
That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is
But that's the joy of the F122. It's like having a battle station at your command. A retired World War II battle station that requires some tinkering and elbow grease to work, with your key presses supported by the three layers of steel. It's the perfect fit for those of us that churn our own butter and raise own sheep for clothing.
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.
Model F's IMO feel better.
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.
Model F's IMO feel better.
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.
Model F's IMO feel better.
Of course they do. I own some myself. One working XT that I really love. But after months, I still haven't gotten off my ass to fix my F122, and I have a couple others without spacebar, which tells you a lot about how important it is to me to fix my Fs.
M122 already feels good enough to keep using it. It's heaven compared with any scissors switch or chiclet or even alps. So for people who can't afford to pay more, M122 is a serviceable substitute.
I don't believe in the Razer hate propaganda also. Granted, Razer isn't that great. But for someone on a budget faced with a secondhand Filco at $120 shipped, and a secondhand Razer at $50 shipped, I'd say just go with the Razer. The extra $70 difference could mean a week's rent or groceries for some students or in-between job geeks.
It's a pragmatic, value-conscious mentality that isn't fashionable, I know. But not everyone on this site is a top programmer making $200k a year. We've got Vietnamese and Filipino kids who probably make $500 a month or less.
Unless you insist on having an F buckling-spring-over-capacative-contact switch or the ultra-heavy metal backplate, the M122 is just as much of a visually imposing battleship as the F122.
the ONLY reason to buy an F122 is if you are a super F-purist
To be honest, I'm not a *huge* fan of the Model F. The ping of the springs buckling is both higher pitched and louder, the key effort is lower, and the downward stroke feels less tactile.
I would like nothing more than to have a Model F that looked exactly like a standard Model M, the only reason I bother with the F-122 is because it is the only way to get a near-ANSI experience.
I would like nothing more than to have a Model F that looked exactly like a standard Model M, the only reason I bother with the F-122 is because it is the only way to get a near-ANSI experience.
Not the only way. Modding an AT to near-ansi is pretty simple.
Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(
Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(
You what now?
The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.
(And I'm still working on case options for this thing once I get around to it....)
I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.
It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.
That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is
But that's the joy of the F122. It's like having a battle station at your command. A retired World War II battle station that requires some tinkering and elbow grease to work, with your key presses supported by the three layers of steel. It's the perfect fit for those of us that churn our own butter and raise own sheep for clothing.
Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(
You what now?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P1pYBa.jpg)
The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.
(And I'm still working on case options for this thing once I get around to it....)
Even still: the hard part is replacing the mat.
The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.
The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.
The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.
Contrary to popular belief amongst gamers, lots of regular people work with numbers * A LOT * in the real world.
I can take those Model Fs off your hands if you do not plan to fix them. Just give them to me for free, and I'll pay for shipping.
Oh my God! This is epic. I've been looking for an excuse to get an AT... How hard was it to modify it?
I have 3 or 4 of this part #.
Is there really any difference in the 122 key model F part numbers when they look the same? Literally the only difference I see in this one and the other F-122s I have is the part #.
I saw the last one from the same seller sold for over $150.00... is that to be expected of all model F 122 keys in decent condition?
Is there really any difference in the 122 key model F part numbers when they look the same? Literally the only difference I see in this one and the other F-122s I have is the part #.The main difference is the keycaps. Usually the PF keys have different legends. For example, some 3179/3180 keyboards have PF13-PF19 front printed with the colours it was able to display. There are also small differences in the keycap legends to the left and in the nav cluster.
I have been looking all over the site and I can't find any good information on this:
What do you guys think of the keyboard that came with IBM's 3196 Terminal? From what I have gathered it is a Model f variant. My only hesitation is the fact I already have an aircraft carrier and am not sure if the smaller Model F will be worth my money.
Perfect! Thank you for the response.I have been looking all over the site and I can't find any good information on this:
What do you guys think of the keyboard that came with IBM's 3196 Terminal? From what I have gathered it is a Model f variant. My only hesitation is the fact I already have an aircraft carrier and am not sure if the smaller Model F will be worth my money.
Its a crappy terminal M
F's never came in standard layouts