Thanks for taking pictures :)
They are very good! I have trouble getting good shots of black keyboards.
These pics have me really curious. This board looks so close to my Das 2 that I can't tell the difference besides the keys and the logo. Are these two boards both manufactured by Cherry?
Have you noticed any ringing when the keys are pressed or the board tapped? I raised a thread about this a while ago as my Cherry G80-3000had this ring which drove me nuts. There was no way to get rid of it I could see - it was the individual key mechanisms that were ringing. But if no one else has this issue maybe I just got a bad copy - I'd get another one if it came without the ringing.
Have you found any ring qhen you use the keyboard?
The ringing is part of the switch mechanism and is there on every cherry blue if the owner can here it or not.
There is a loose piece of plastic that sits on the main blue stem part. Its this that causes the click and the ringing after. The ring comes from the spring and the plastic part vibrating inside the switch after each key stroke. The part bounces slightly and rubs the spring as it does so.
Its not a flaw in the design just a part of it.
If you have a blue cherry to hand you can open it and see what I mean. I should take some shots of it I guess.
Or just hold down the stem and shake the switch. You will hear the white part rattle and touch the spring.
:)
Woo hoo!
Mine just came in about an hour ago and I'm loving it! This is my first mechanical keyboard and I can tell this is going to change my life. I can definitely understand how this can become an addiction... :D
Interestingly, whenever i turned on my computer with it connected via USB, GRUB didnt see it, but when Ubuntu loaded it worked... I guess I need to use the PS/2 to USB adapter if I want to be able to pick my OS at startup... but that's a minor detail...
Best ~$70 I've ever spent!
theres no reason why i should be using a $10 dell keyboard
You'll be suprised how little you can get a couple of NIB AT101Ws for. :)
A bunch of us, myself included, bought a ton of them (NIB) from some guy selling them for $10 each. Great, great 'board.
I bought a g81-1800 recently and the lack of dimples on F/J annoyed the hell out of me.
If it wasn't for you mentioning it I would never have noticed the concavity difference. I wonder why they thought concavity would be easier to feel out than dimples.
Mine didn't have any particular odor, in before you find smuggled body parts in the box it came in :o
BTW, my keyboard smells strangely of formaldehyde out of the box. Did yours also smell like that?
Same here, did you buy yours from GeminiComputers?
I bought a g81-1800 recently and the lack of dimples on F/J annoyed the hell out of me. If it wasn't for you mentioning it I would never have noticed the concavity difference. I wonder why they thought concavity would be easier to feel out than dimples.You just have to feel horizontal instead of vertical. Scooped F and J keys are quite elegant, IMO.
Mine doesn't smell of formaldehyde, but there is what I'd call a "PCB smell"--although a rather nasty one (still not as nasty as some of the graphics cards I had, though).Pcbs are basically paper and Formaldehyde.
-huha
The formaldehyde smell might be explained by POM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylene) keycaps. I guess the 'board in question is black?
Let us know if you find a Cherry Brown one that does NOT have the Chinese lettering for less than $100. I did a half hearted search once and came up empty
The fact that the image on the product page has a broken link does not give me a good impression about POSGlobal, which is why I'm kind of hesitant.
Yeah, buy it and let us know if they really have it in stock. The POS thing in the name seems to be scaring everyone off. Since Gemini is sold out it's the only game in town.
I wish you were a REAL Canadian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TncdhLGjFTE) so I could tell more Canadian jokes.
LOL - POSglobal vs POShouse - got em mixed up.
NO hits on Reseller Ratings for either. Hmm.....
If you could only get Canadian Tire to special order.
LOL - POSglobal vs POShouse - got em mixed up.
NO hits on Reseller Ratings for either. Hmm.....
I actually contacted the German distributor of cherry keyboards today. They also do laser/print special layouts, so I figured I might as well give it a shot and ask for a blank layout. To my surprise they said it would be no problem and they can deliver the g80-3000 with either blue or black switches and completely blank keys. This goes at about $10 more than the retail price, which makes this a really cheap DASII. I think I'll order one!
LOL -
The Germans get the Cherrys.
The Americans got Unicomps, lots of Ebay, Deck, a few others.
The Japanese get the best.
The Canadians get:Show Image(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05/Beaver_450x403.jpg)
I actually contacted the German distributor of cherry keyboards today. They also do laser/print special layouts, so I figured I might as well give it a shot and ask for a blank layout. To my surprise they said it would be no problem and they can deliver the g80-3000 with either blue or black switches and completely blank keys. This goes at about $10 more than the retail price, which makes this a really cheap DASII. I think I'll order one!
LOL -
The Germans get the Cherrys.
The Americans got Unicomps, lots of Ebay, Deck, a few others.
The Japanese get the best.
The Canadians get:
-jayray999
Did you have any choice in courier company? UPS is the worst for us because they charge a ridiculous amount as customer broker fee.
I don't remember but look at this: https://www.posglobal.com/global_shipping.asp
But it's a moot point because the website wont let you checkout till it is back in stock. I remember when I ordered it said 6 In Stock. Now it just says Call.
LOL -
The Germans get the Cherrys.
The Americans got Unicomps, lots of Ebay, Deck, a few others.
The Japanese get the best.
The Canadians get:Show Image(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05/Beaver_450x403.jpg)
Oops. I did not see that. It did let me check out though.
I just tried again. Same thing. It empties my cart after I enter my Zipcode or I click Checkout. Weird. Try http://www.barcodespot.com if you are keen. They sell it for $67 buy again not sure if it is in stock.
Patrick,
I didn't say jump YET!Show Image(http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/images/6_1/2007_11_13_SkyHawks_Recruiting_M.jpg)
Well, I'm hoping for a soft landing at least.
But if I try it again now, it empties my cart. Did I get the last one in stock? God knows.
Don't sweat it. I had to file a credit card complaint against Cheapshotbilliards.com. Webwit had an issue with DeviantArt (LOL - had it's Dada aspects though). Stuff happens.
I betcha it'll work out.
Discipline. What's that??
I hope it does work out. Discipline...used to be my middle name, not anymore I guess.
eww..... That didn't come out right.
If it makes you feel any better I edited "it's" to "its" in my last post. Picky, picky, pikcy.
I doubt I'll ever buy from POSGlobal.com again. Pricing and shipping cost are good, but for peace of mind, this site is very bad. Returning products there would be a nightmare since nobody answers the phone there.
jayray999
If I read you correctly, the packing and the shape in which the product arrived were very good, right?
For $62.47 you can order from http://www.totalbarcode.com where people not only pick up the phone but will inform you that if you order via NexTag.com (search for G80-3000), they'll waive the the $3 Ground shipping charge. Unfortunately TotalBarcode don't currently keep it in stock but promise to ship in 7-10 business days after you've ordered.
Maybe POS doesn't stand for what everybody thinks it does!
I was going to say congrats but am not sure if that's appropriate.
You should bribe your UPS guy to just sneak them into the garage for you. After answering the door I always tell my wife, "Honey, it's just a Jehovah's Witness again..." and sneak it down to the basement.
Okay, believe it or not, I managed to get someone on the phone at posglobal.com. He said he has to cancel my order since he does not have the keyboard in stock.
Sorry it did not work out.
Patrick, if nothing else I think you've scared off anyone from ordering from a company with POS in their name.
I wonder why Cherry is selling these cheaply despite retailers having to special order them??? Doesn't sound like an overstock problem like I originally thought. Strange.
Thanks for the Gemini post - we'll try and talk a non-Canadian next time into going through the process. Or at least a Québécois .
Maybe start with the basics - What OS are you running?
You only said that because Obama wouldn't invade Canada. You're lucky Cheney isn't in charge.
I've had this keyboard for a while now, and there were a few times where one of the modifier keys would stick until I pressed it again. It didn't physically stick in place, but my computer thought it was still pressed down. I can't reproduce this in any consistent way, so I don't know if it was just a fluke or my imagination or my computer. Has anyone else had this problem?
You only said that because Obama wouldn't invade Canada. You're lucky Cheney isn't in charge.
I have the feeling that I type very fast on my ABS. The keys are so smooth compared to my Dell, yet I'm always close to 80 WPM. The best score I can get is around 85 WPM. I can get about 87-90 WPM on the Customizer, but get tired very quickly. Weird, isn't? I have the feeling that I type much faster on the ABS but the numbers don't follow. But, on the Cherry, I can constantly hit 87 WPM and up.
I have found that the shapes of keyboards influence my typing speed apart from the switches themselves. Keyboards with higher keys (Model M, Filco, ABS, etc.) cause me to type slower than 'boards with lower keys (Dell, Cherry, etc). Also keyboards with wider front "lips" (Model M, Dell Cherry) help me type faster as well as my hands don't feel as cramped on the 'board (the Filco and ABS have thinner front lips).
That being said, the Cherry G80 and the Dell AT-101W are my two fastest 'boards.
In my case, I found that because the keys on the Cherry feels smaller, I make less mistakes and go faster. I mean that the gap between keys seems to be wider. Of course, the level of humidity also affects my speed. If my fingers get a bit sweater, they tend to leave each key relatively slower. The "Teflon" coating on the Cherry helps in that case. I wonder what it would be like to have an ABS with clicky ALPS. I would then be comparing fairly similar keyboards. Maybe the click on the Cherry is helping me type faster.
...it's VERY rare I'm typing faster than I can think
I would be worried if I could do that :-) Most likely it would be my brain dying more than my typing speed increasing dramatically.
You're right about the keys being wider on Filco'sShow Image(http://kb.o2dazone.com/filco01.jpg)
(Filco Majestouch & Cherry G80-3000).
I also noticed that, and thought it was NKRO that was making me error out so much. With that said, my muscle memory has made up for the bigger surface on the keys and "taught" me to type more precisely. I feather type a little better on browns than blues, probably because of lower resistance in the spring...but really I don't bother too much with my wpm, it's VERY rare I'm typing faster than I can think
G i jooooooooooooooooooooe
I have the phone recording. Must convict.
Numbers don't lie.
Measuring the main key cluster:
IBM - Width 11" (CTL to CTL)
Height 3.5" (~ to CTL)
Filco - Same
Realforce - Same
Das - Same
$10 Logitech - tad bigger and kinda wierd left CTL placement (LOL)
Using a Starrett Hardened Steel Machinist Ruler - Precision measurements since 1880. (http://www.starrett.com/)
Ladies and Gentleman of the jury - if the key tops are the same and the spacing is the same....
Note: the Realforces have an ever so slightly mid-bulge.
I don't have a Dell or Cherry board to compare but I'm skeptical anybody would mess with IBM spacing.
I'm just reacting to this. When I have a typo it has nothing to do with the key size. Key feel and texture.... maybe.
Allow me to go on a rant...to be honest, I only find "word per minute" to be good for bragging rights for social networking virtuoso's. Otherwise, I'm busy staring at code forming logic in my head more than I am furiously striking keys. Most wpm tests don't really use characters I'm familiar to using (regular expressions anyone?) anyways...so I find them to be less important the more tests I take.
Edit: I take that back, having a fast WPM does have it's niche. Things like word processing or a secretary position, basically looking at a sheet of paper and typing it into a computer still requires that you type very fast. But more and more as paper is phased out, I find this becoming less important.
It is a bragging right in a way. I won't deny that. It's also very satisfying for my ego :-). The reason why I learned to touch type was because I was wasting too much time when I was learning to code, and when I started to code for a living (long time ago). But, like you said, it does have its benefits. I'm currently working towards an Arts degree part-time which means a lot of essays to write. I'm so glad I can type fast. Now, I'm trying to be as accurate as possible. Typing fast is useless if I'm going to leave mistakes everywhere and have to go back and make some corrections.
I'm not so sure about a paperless world though. I find people printing more as a result. People print more e-mails, print more invoices, etc. The same amount of printing is occurring, but shifted from being done by the service companies to being done by the customers.
The only professions I see where pure typing speed is beneficial are in writing, dictation and transcribing fields. I code at work, and I spend more time thinking about what to type than actually typing it. Same thing posting here. My thought process slows down my typing since I have to think about what I type. I almost never do any straight transcription.
I went from hunt and peck to touch typing. Therefore, I noticed a big difference. Please note, that from 1992 to 1996, I did not touch a keyboard at all, so when I went to learn programming, typing was a nightmare.
Today, it's a skill I'm glad I acquired. Because I work full-time and study part-time, I'm glad I can spend more time reading textbook than typing. I like to read, and then summarize what I've read.
I learned to touch type in 1995 when I got my first ergo 'board (the original MS Natural). I was pretty much forced to since you really can't hunt and peck on those (that, and pretty much defeats the purpose of having an ergo 'board).
Measuring the main key cluster:
IBM - Width 11" (CTL to CTL)
Height 3.5" (~ to CTL)
Filco - Same
Realforce - Same
Das - Same
$10 Logitech - tad bigger and kinda weird left CTL placement (LOL)
Using a Starrett Hardened Steel Machinist Ruler - Precision measurements since 1880. (http://www.starrett.com/)
LOL - I actually measured using the 1/64th inch scale but it worked out exact IF you measure from top of key cap edge to edge. We're only talking the part your fingers touch. Area and spacing, not whether it's scooped etc.
LOL - I actually measured using the 1/64th inch scale but it worked out exact IF you measure from top of key cap edge to edge. We're only talking the part your fingers touch. Area and spacing, not whether it's scooped etc.
Don't make me buy another Starret rule - they're expensive!
D-EJ915: No, it was the right word. I don't know what precision ripster's super-rule has but my ruler is only marked in tenths of an inch which are significantly bigger than the milimetres on the other side. (come to think of it, they must be 2.54 times bigger)
LOL - that's no fun.
As long as they don't have P.O.S. in the title you should be OK.
Here's one person (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=88548&postcount=8) who bought from them.
Out of stock there too. Nice of them to wait days to let me know.
Evidently, I may be just putting the G80 on my christmas list. "I want Japanese comics and keyboards." Is that wrong to say at my age and career level?
if any canadian want a G803000LSCRC2 you could try :
http://www.1click2computers.com/product_details/detail.asp?prod_id=G803000LSCRC2&from_dist=I
i bought mine there, they seem out of stock for now... but sending an email to know the eta isnt that hard =)
How much did it cost for shipping?
Cherry - G80-3000LSCRC-2 $73.46
Sub Total: $73.46
Shipping and Handling: $15.00
(5.00%) Gst: $4.42
(7.50%) Qst: $6.97
Total:$99.85
order date 12/8/2008
just something that some might find usefull... when i got the keyboard the spacebar was really stiff because it was actually a green keyswitch so i took it apart and changed it for a blue one from some other useless key...i used the print screen keyswitch if i remember correctly.
Musta been on your Filco typing this.
You misspelled "typos;" you forgot the "s."
just something that some might find usefull... when i got the keyboard the spacebar was really stiff because it was actually a green keyswitch so i took it apart and changed it for a blue one from some other useless key...i used the print screen keyswitch if i remember correctly.