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The Epsilon Keyboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41390.0)
For me it isn't an aesthetic form factor and boards like the HHKB have such a good Fn layer so I don't need top layer access to F etc.
Also getting caps is a nightmare!
For me it isn't an aesthetic form factor and boards like the HHKB have such a good Fn layer so I don't need top layer access to F etc.
Also getting caps is a nightmare!
Pretty much this.
Personally I do actually like the uniform "slab o' keys" look, but 60% boards do look cooler and are just as functional.
What i liked about the kc84 was it has pretty much every key on a tkl but its smaller and more compact.
but i guess some companies don't like to make 1,75 shifts
What i liked about the kc84 was it has pretty much every key on a tkl but its smaller and more compact.
but i guess some companies don't like to make 1,75 shifts
That's why metalliqaz made the Epsilon to fit the keycaps from an MY7000 board. :)
He probably needs to make another run of those one day...
What i liked about the kc84 was it has pretty much every key on a tkl but its smaller and more compact.
but i guess some companies don't like to make 1,75 shifts
That's why metalliqaz made the Epsilon to fit the keycaps from an MY7000 board. :)
He probably needs to make another run of those one day...
I've moved onto 60% for the next compact board. 75% is perfect if you can't remap keys. But with a programable 60%, you can get all the keys you need to use easily, 1 colum 1 row shorter
I'm in the same boat, disappointed with the lack of 75% keyboard options. I too need the F row and arrows directly accessible due to MMO games and key binds.
The mention of 60% boards doesn't even belong in this thread. All I want is a 75% board with no plate and no LEDs, yet there's literally nothing on the market and nothing coming down the pipe. Sucks...
The first gen KBT Race was also PCB.
I know they're not cherry/topre switches, but I just wanted to note that this keyboard on my Thinkpad X220 is IMO more similar to the 75% keyboards than anything else, in part because of the arrow key placement and its width. Also, the Apple Wireless Keyboard is essentially a 75% keyboard, though I know it lacks a few keys. In fact, the keyboards on all mac laptops are essentially 75%.
So while 75% may be niche in cherry/topre keyboards, which are themselves quite niche, it is actually well represented in laptop keyboards.
I slightly prefer my Keycool 84 over my Noppoo Choc Mini.
I suck at Starcraft 2 and use F2 to select all my army. On a HHKB, that would require two hands with the Fn placement. Perhaps someone will say I should be using control groups for my army on 1 and 2. But then again if I were good I would want to use F3-F6 to move the camera to my bases, so the problem still stands.
Of course I use F keys for a ton of other things too, like driving a debugger and switching virtual desktops and moving windows to different virtual desktops and midnight commander and tons of things in Emacs and Excel and it's just nice not having to use an extra modifier key.
One nice thing about using a 75% keyboard is that when you inevitably have to use a laptop keyboard, it's not as much of an adjustment.
Functions keys? mm, what do you need them for, that requiere them to have dedicated keys?
I pointed out that Starcraft 2 uses F1 for idle worker, F2 for all army, F3-F? for centering the camera on your bases. Taking your right hand off your mouse to press the Fn key is not acceptable for a RTS game. Now, you can say you should come up with different keybindings for these things, or that you should hook up a different keyboard everytime you want to play, but this is one good example where having dedicated F keys is very important.All sorts of existing applications take advantage of the keys that happen to be already present on the keyboard. That doesn’t mean that the number of keys or their layout is a good one, though.
Too cluttered looking, for me.
I'm all for having more modifiers on the thumbs and for experimenting with different layouts.
I'm all for having more modifiers on the thumbs and for experimenting with different layouts.
filco minila. master race layout - dungbeetle keycaps