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Title: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 11 March 2014, 22:52:22
All gone, thanks guys!

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I somehow had the good fortune of getting a whole bunch of the big IBM 4704 keyboards from a nearby e-cycler. I have absolutely no idea where they came from, all they could tell me was that they picked them up through one of their local e-waste collection events. So there's pretty much no chance of me getting any more.

(http://i.imgur.com/GzWfmfr.jpg)

They're all in pretty good shape. They're dirty, which is no surprise. Expect there to be scratches and marks on the paint. All the keycaps are intact. Not all of the two-piece relegendables have their top pieces, however most do. The vast majority of them are missing their feet. All of the ones left are missing their feet. I obviously have no way of testing them for function.

I have 16 to sell now. There's one missing some caps that I'll put up later, I just want to get through all the good ones first. Given the rarity of these I'd like to ask $150 shipped CONUS for each. International is fine, we can work out shipping depending on where exactly you're located. Keep in mind that shipping costs are going to be very high because the keyboard itself weighs about 10 pounds.

If there is a lot of interest I may limit them to one per person so that as many people as possible can have a chance at getting one. I'm not really sure what to expect.

With regards to the feet, I'm not sure what the 62 key kishsaver feet look like but these are just two plain rubber feet:

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(http://i.imgur.com/FBqn134.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XgII6N7.jpg)
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 11 March 2014, 22:59:14
wow, you must have done a lot of sniping on ebay to get so many  :eek:
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 11 March 2014, 23:00:34
wow, you must have done a lot of sniping on ebay to get so many  :eek:

I got lucky at a local E-Waste recycler  :D
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 11 March 2014, 23:59:23
wow, you must have done a lot of sniping on ebay to get so many  :eek:

I got lucky at a local E-Waste recycler  :D

No woner these guys are in such bad condition. from your description, didn't sound as though you lovingly restored them and decided to pass them on. you got them for $1 each or something?  :p
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 12 March 2014, 01:11:23
wow, you must have done a lot of sniping on ebay to get so many  :eek:

I got lucky at a local E-Waste recycler  :D

No woner these guys are in such bad condition. from your description, didn't sound as though you lovingly restored them and decided to pass them on. you got them for $1 each or something?  :p

Yep, just about. I was very happy to save these guys from being shredded  :))
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 13 March 2014, 19:40:06
Bump
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza - Now with some ALPS/SMK
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:18:01
Bump, added things.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza - Now with some ALPS/SMK
Post by: morpheus on Mon, 17 March 2014, 04:16:34
GLWS, those are nice Alps
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza - Now with some ALPS/SMK
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 18 March 2014, 18:38:16
Prices adjusted.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:46:32
Just a few left.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Model M Extravaganza - Added Model F 5291
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:40:40
Added a Model F. It also just occurred to me that you can remove stabilizer inserts, so I took one from the donor board and put it in the gray label which was lacking a numpad enter stabilizer.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 01 September 2014, 04:04:54
Bringing this back to the top with a whole bunch of stuff to sell.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 01 September 2014, 10:09:42
The Northgate cable is not a male-male-PS/2 cable.

I described how to make a clean simple PS/2 installation in reply #157 of the Blue Alps Tour thread.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.msg1262678#msg1262678 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.msg1262678#msg1262678)

Otherwise, you need an original mini-DIN6-to-AT cable and a separate AT-to-PS/2 adapter.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:25:41
The Northgate cable is not a male-male-PS/2 cable.

I described how to make a clean simple PS/2 installation in reply #157 of the Blue Alps Tour thread.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.msg1262678#msg1262678 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.msg1262678#msg1262678)

Otherwise, you need an original mini-DIN6-to-AT cable and a separate AT-to-PS/2 adapter.

Thanks for clearing that up! I'll get that taken care of sometime this week. For now I have updated the OP with that info.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo (Updated 9-1)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 02 September 2014, 17:48:22
Some stuff has sold, still plenty available.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo (Updated 9-1)
Post by: PublicAnarchism on Tue, 02 September 2014, 19:14:41
Interested in a model M. What is the price?
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo (Updated 9-1)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 02 September 2014, 19:30:17
The price for each keyboard is listed at the end of its description, within the "more" tags.
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo (Updated 9-1)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 04 September 2014, 00:12:12
ttt
Title: Re: [WTS] Sniper's Vintage Extravaganza 2: Electric Boogaloo (Updated 9-1)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:42:25
Only Model Ms left.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 17 September 2014, 21:44:10
Bump with a big find.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: sleepy916 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 21:47:39
Pmed! Great get!

Foot too plz.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: Parak on Wed, 17 September 2014, 21:47:43
Will take one with a foot.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: E TwentyNine on Wed, 17 September 2014, 21:54:20
Nice haul.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: HaaTa on Wed, 17 September 2014, 22:46:07
I'll take one.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 17 September 2014, 23:01:16
I've been wanting a Model F but that thing is absolutely huge. I think I'll leave these for others to grab.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: macmakkara on Thu, 18 September 2014, 07:27:55
I would love to get one. Im located at finland so we have to solve international shipping.

Nothing.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: JPG on Thu, 18 September 2014, 07:40:28
Wow nice loot! Sadly out of my budget for a keyboard with a layout I would not use (too wide for me), but still a very nice keyboard!


GL with sale and GL to all buyers!
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: snoopy on Thu, 18 September 2014, 07:53:17
you got pm
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: tinlong117 on Thu, 18 September 2014, 09:29:42
Ygpm, I'll take one too.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: Monster-Toys on Thu, 18 September 2014, 11:33:05
I did send a PM, too.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 18 September 2014, 16:06:25
Definitely interested in an IBM 107 in excellent shape. Sent PM.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 18 September 2014, 17:33:21
All PMs should have been replied to at this point. Intl shipping is still in the works. Will be sending quotes for intl shipping shortly.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 18 September 2014, 19:12:52
Remember those M13 pictures you did?

If you did a similar-quality one of the 107, I would much appreciate it. Need it for my desktop backgrounds folder.

Anyway: paid. Can't wait! This is the KB I want more than any other (that has yet been made).
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edit:
These appear to use generation 1 or 2 (of 4 I know of) of IBM relegendable. They dont' always stick on the caps very well.

The only other source I know of for these is fentek
http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm

The fentek (appear to be gen 4) ones are super expensive, though.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 18 September 2014, 20:16:35
Remember those M13 pictures you did?

If you did a similar-quality one of the 107, I would much appreciate it. Need it for my desktop backgrounds folder.

Anyway: paid. Can't wait! This is the KB I want more than any other (that has yet been made).
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edit:
These appear to use generation 1 or 2 (of 4 I know of) of IBM relegendable. They dont' always stick on the caps very well.

The only other source I know of for these is fentek
http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm

The fentek (appear to be gen 4) ones are super expensive, though.

Will do. Thanks for the info on the relegendables. How are you able to tell what generation they are? I noticed that some of the boards seem to have a square-ish piece under the relegendable and some of them just look like the bottom part of a Model M two-piece cap. Is that it?

Edit: For anyone on the fence, there are about 5 keyboards that are unaccounted for thus far.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: REVENGE on Thu, 18 September 2014, 20:34:46
Can I put pre-emptive dibs on any 62 or 77 keys that you might find in the future? ^_^
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:02:04
Can I put pre-emptive dibs on any 62 or 77 keys that you might find in the future? ^_^

Same here
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:18:26
Can I put pre-emptive dibs on any 62 or 77 keys that you might find in the future? ^_^

Ha, I sure hope I find some.

This e-cycler takes in stuff from all over the state and they're pretty good about hanging on to keyboards for me, so I suppose it's not too far fetched that I might eventually run into some more of these or some of the smaller models. One can only hope.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 19 September 2014, 07:27:22
Can I put pre-emptive dibs on any 62 or 77 keys that you might find in the future? ^_^

If you start a small list I'd love to be a part of it in the odd chance you run across some :)
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: Hypersphere on Fri, 19 September 2014, 07:35:04
Can I put pre-emptive dibs on any 62 or 77 keys that you might find in the future? ^_^

Ha, I sure hope I find some.

This e-cycler takes in stuff from all over the state and they're pretty good about hanging on to keyboards for me, so I suppose it's not too far fetched that I might eventually run into some more of these or some of the smaller models. One can only hope.
Same here. I am particularly interested in an IBM 62-key Model F. Thanks.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: JPG on Fri, 19 September 2014, 07:39:54
62 key here too!
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 20 September 2014, 21:09:57
I got mine today. Packing was great and the keyboard was in decent condition considering it's age.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 20 September 2014, 22:05:17

Will do. Thanks for the info on the relegendables. How are you able to tell what generation they are? I noticed that some of the boards seem to have a square-ish piece under the relegendable and some of them just look like the bottom part of a Model M two-piece cap. Is that it?

Edit: For anyone on the fence, there are about 5 keyboards that are unaccounted for thus far.

The "generation name" 1-4 is just a conjecture based on mould marks and plastic composition. I have reason to believe they are in the proper order but no hard data. I guess I'll have to actually take pictures and document this now.

So, these were meant to go on over a the bottom half of a normal IBM 2-piece, but for some reason some of the bottom halves are a little different. I suspect IBM did this to get the paper to stick on a bit better, but that's just a wild guess. I have not seen this "new" bottom half on any other IBM KB than under some relegendables. I guess I'll have to document that as well. I didn't think people would be ineterested.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 21 September 2014, 12:39:36

Will do. Thanks for the info on the relegendables. How are you able to tell what generation they are? I noticed that some of the boards seem to have a square-ish piece under the relegendable and some of them just look like the bottom part of a Model M two-piece cap. Is that it?

Edit: For anyone on the fence, there are about 5 keyboards that are unaccounted for thus far.

The "generation name" 1-4 is just a conjecture based on mould marks and plastic composition. I have reason to believe they are in the proper order but no hard data. I guess I'll have to actually take pictures and document this now.

So, these were meant to go on over a the bottom half of a normal IBM 2-piece, but for some reason some of the bottom halves are a little different. I suspect IBM did this to get the paper to stick on a bit better, but that's just a wild guess. I have not seen this "new" bottom half on any other IBM KB than under some relegendables. I guess I'll have to document that as well. I didn't think people would be ineterested.

Oh yeah, I would be interested in seeing the differences. I was looking at all the boards yesterday and trying to make a connection between the date and the shape of the bottom cap piece, but I've got a 1985 and a 1989 with the same style of cap and then a 1987 with a different one  :confused:
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 September 2014, 22:19:28
A couple buyers backed out so I have 2 left except for one with some issues which I will list after these 2 go. I think everyone has had a fair chance at this point so if anyone wants a second then let me know.

If we had something arranged already or are working something out then I still have your keyboard--it isn't being sold to someone else.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:33:27
Last one up, this one's a little roughed up.
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: Aer Fixus on Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:16:58
Mine came today and I am very happy! I was pleasantly surprised to find that mine had F1-12 printed on the side of the top row. Now I won't have to buy the function keys from Unicomp like I thought I was going to have to do (and they're even one-piece caps, too)!

Thanks, ComradeSniper!

Now, to wait until someone finds a bunch of 77 key keyboards! :P
Title: Re: [WTS] IBM 4704 Model F 107 key keyboards
Post by: just1n on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:29:24
Ygpm, I'll take one too.



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