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Title: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: SaySo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 05:50:27
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Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: skcheng on Fri, 21 March 2014, 10:11:09
Can this be ordered without the MX Switches?
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: xmagusx on Fri, 21 March 2014, 10:19:18
Yes, under options. Switch type: None (-$44)
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: xmagusx on Fri, 21 March 2014, 10:20:52
Looks like they didn't do well with the assembly service. Haven't seen that option offered again since round 4
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 21 March 2014, 10:21:56
It's amazing how many rounds of GB this board makes.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 21 March 2014, 11:13:48
they should shoot for one round yearly, moq 2000, price that at 180 or less, and offer 6-8 types of cherry switches.

multiple rounds don't do much good
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 21 March 2014, 13:30:24
they should shoot for one round yearly, moq 2000, price that at 180 or less, and offer 6-8 types of cherry switches.

multiple rounds don't do much good

That may be asking too much, given that there have already been at least two big GBs.  Are there 2000 "enthusiasts" left who don't have one?
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: xmagusx on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:06:26
they should shoot for one round yearly, moq 2000, price that at 180 or less, and offer 6-8 types of cherry switches.

multiple rounds don't do much good
Multiple rounds increase availability and decrease turnaround time. If they could get the price under 100 that way, it might be worthwhile for some, but for most, having to wait for either the high MOQ to be met, ordered, processed, quality controlled, shipped or having to wait until next year if they missed this year's GB just isn't worth a ~10% savings, and for many it wouldn't even be worth a 50% savings. This in turn would just drive up the time to meet that high MOQ even more.

They way that they're doing it is ideal as far as I'm concerned, honestly, because if they can show that there is sufficient and regular demand for the product, they can either start keeping stock of them or partner with a company to produce them en masse -- ordering in advance and using those further savings to pay for the storage, profit their company, and even potentially drop the price a bit for everyone. With the added bonus that their customers would no longer need to wait for a group buy to complete in order to get one shipped to them.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:57:08
For anyone who wants to make an ergo-clear Ergodox: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 21 March 2014, 16:06:06
It's amazing how many rounds of GB this board makes.

I just ordered one.  If mkawa is to be believed (I know, what a shady guy :p ), the number of members here is growing exponentially, so there must be a lot of people in my boat who discovered enthusiast keyboarding recently and are kicking themselves every. single. day. for missing out on all the GBs that have happened here in the last few years.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: avtar on Fri, 21 March 2014, 17:30:39
I just ordered one.  If mkawa is to be believed (I know, what a shady guy :p ), the number of members here is growing exponentially, so there must be a lot of people in my boat who discovered enthusiast keyboarding recently and are kicking themselves every. single. day. for missing out on all the GBs that have happened here in the last few years.

Not directly related but have you considered joining these group buys?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 21 March 2014, 17:49:33
they should shoot for one round yearly, moq 2000, price that at 180 or less, and offer 6-8 types of cherry switches.

multiple rounds don't do much good

All the GBs they have done added together isn't even 2000 I don't think.

You are right though: they should at LEAST add the stabilizer slots to the PCB if they're going to keep the price the same.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 22 March 2014, 00:14:50
I just ordered one.  If mkawa is to be believed (I know, what a shady guy :p ), the number of members here is growing exponentially, so there must be a lot of people in my boat who discovered enthusiast keyboarding recently and are kicking themselves every. single. day. for missing out on all the GBs that have happened here in the last few years.

Not directly related but have you considered joining these group buys?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0

No, although I am participating in Ivan's thick PBT cherry group buy.  Actually, the reason I'm so interested in the Ergodox is the same reason I'm not interested in the group buys you've linked - I experiment a lot with various layouts.  When you're trying to get used to new key mappings and function layers, the last thing you need to deal with are legends that lie to you about what you're pressing!! ;)  I'm really excited about the layouts that an Ergodox will enable.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 22 March 2014, 12:48:02
Also want to point out that this group buy has reached the lowest price ($199) since I last checked.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: daerid on Sat, 22 March 2014, 16:53:12
I haven't seen the ErgoDox not hit $199 since MD started offering it.

I will say though, I got in on the November drop, and the quality case is light years ahead of where it used to be. The acrylic is stronger and clearer, and the laser cuts are much smoother. It looks like a much better board once assembled.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: brialona on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:13:03
MSRP $570.00

LOL
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:34:49
MSRP $570.00

LOL

That represents the price of a one-off, or prototype.

I will say though, I got in on the November drop, and the quality case is light years ahead of where it used to be. The acrylic is stronger and clearer, and the laser cuts are much smoother. It looks like a much better board once assembled.

This is good to know. Of the first and second-gen ergodoxes I have made for people those cases weren't great. One even had some missing chunks from the acrylic (and I STILL need to hear back from the person if I should complete it or not).
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 20:55:00
Massdrop is not shipping to Viet Nam? I can't join :'(
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: bazh on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:14:33
Massdrop is not shipping to Viet Nam? I can't join :'(

You might want to shoot them a pm, or ask them in the discuss section
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:19:04
Massdrop is not shipping to Viet Nam? I can't join :'(

You might want to shoot them a pm, or ask them in the discuss section
Yeah. i sent email to support and they confirm :'(
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: Sniping on Sat, 22 March 2014, 23:25:03
I haven't seen the ErgoDox not hit $199 since MD started offering it.

I will say though, I got in on the November drop, and the quality case is light years ahead of where it used to be. The acrylic is stronger and clearer, and the laser cuts are much smoother. It looks like a much better board once assembled.

That's very interesting, I've been told that they don't use their local shop anymore and get their cases done from China.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: bazh on Sun, 23 March 2014, 01:35:17
Massdrop is not shipping to Viet Nam? I can't join :'(

You might want to shoot them a pm, or ask them in the discuss section
Yeah. i sent email to support and they confirm :'(

damn, I always though I could buy something on there... so much interesting stuffs
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:36:33
they have to add each country separately. Just email them or whatever and they should add it.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: irendulic on Mon, 24 March 2014, 17:01:21
I can't seem to find that info on massdrop page - how long does it take for them to ship them? Is it like month+ until they are completed or less than that?
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 24 March 2014, 17:46:39
I can't seem to find that info on massdrop page - how long does it take for them to ship them? Is it like month+ until they are completed or less than that?

It took about 8 weeks from closing to me getting my kit today.  Also, smd soldering is a pita even with good, production quality gear.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: fatchoi on Tue, 25 March 2014, 04:50:09
Hi guys, should I wait for the backlit version? I'm still undecided whether to get one Ergodox or not...
And can the Ergodox use 3-leg (plate mounted) switch? The switches ($44 for 78 switches) are simply too expensive if they are only 3-leg.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:51:37
the ergodox can use either pcb mounter or plate mounted switches.

I am using an ergodox without a case and pcb mounted switches.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: skcheng on Sat, 29 March 2014, 17:44:37
I pulled the trigger and I'm getting a classic with no switches and the blank PBT caps, even though I can't type on blank caps to save my life LOL. 

The more I look at the layout and the thumb positions, the more I think it will be quite the learning curve to get used to .......   

How long did it take everyone to get used to typing on the Ergodox??
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 March 2014, 20:15:55
I pulled the trigger and I'm getting a classic with no switches and the blank PBT caps, even though I can't type on blank caps to save my life LOL. 

The more I look at the layout and the thumb positions, the more I think it will be quite the learning curve to get used to .......   

How long did it take everyone to get used to typing on the Ergodox??
I could use it right away, but the hard part for me was learning to touchtype properly! :p
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 29 March 2014, 20:18:12
the ergodox can use either pcb mounter or plate mounted switches.

I am using an ergodox without a case and pcb mounted switches.

how is it? seeing how the case is $100 but the pcb is just $38 and I can throw on some old switches from POS boards, this seems like really cheap. but how are the pcb mounted switches feeling?
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: xmagusx on Sat, 29 March 2014, 20:35:03
How long did it take everyone to get used to typing on the Ergodox??
Less than a week and I had reached my old typing speed and drastically reduced my discomfort. Once I got an ErgoDock (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47887.0) a couple weeks later to go along with it, it has been heaven.

Andrew
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: daerid on Sat, 29 March 2014, 23:35:48
I'll be honest, it's hard for me to use the ErgoDock these days. For some reason it makes my right wrist get all stiff and sore.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 14:10:06
Slightly less than an hour to go!
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: xmagusx on Mon, 31 March 2014, 14:14:11
I'll be honest, it's hard for me to use the ErgoDock these days. For some reason it makes my right wrist get all stiff and sore.
Well, feel free to shoot me a message if you want to unload it, I could use a spare.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:30:48
According to the discussion page on Massdrop, all parts are in and shipments are going out over the next few days.

They've also started yet another round.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Fri, 16 May 2014, 03:18:01
According to the discussion page on Massdrop, all parts are in and shipments are going out over the next few days.

They've also started yet another round.
When?
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 16 May 2014, 03:34:27
Why did I join this forum.... All I do is spend money that I don't have..
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 16 May 2014, 03:42:23
double posted like an idiot =/
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 16 May 2014, 10:09:30
Why did I join this forum.... All I do is spend money..
Because here is Geekhack
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: strict on Fri, 16 May 2014, 11:33:47
Why did I join this forum.... All I do is spend money..

I cannot stress enough how true this is. When I joined I swore up and down I would buy a Filco and be done. Im now in the process of building my third board (ErgoDox) and fighting a losing battle to convince myself I don't need an MX Oktoberfest.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 16 May 2014, 11:42:10
I have a southpaw friend who wants to use the right set for a gamepad, would that work? I am unsure since the right piece is supposed to connect the left.
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: wuqe on Fri, 16 May 2014, 12:37:59
The right side definitely works by itself. Just verified yesterday when I misplaced my TRRS cable for an hour... :oops:
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 20:03:10
To anyone who just received your kit - did you get both SMD and though hole diodes, or just SMD?

I soldered on the SMD diodes. As per some advice on GH, I applied solder to both pads and then tacked down one side and then the other. This turned out to be a bad idea, because it stressed the joints and about 15 diodes didn't work.

(So, I strongly recommend only applying solder to one side, tacking it down, and THEN soldering the other.)

I would just throw on through-holes if I had them, but I don't see them in my kit so I think I'll need to order some more SMD diodes. Argh  :'(
Title: Re: Another round for Ergodox on Massdrop
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 04 June 2014, 20:23:21
Good warning!
I haven't received it yet, but I was planning on putting solder on both sides(or not being cheap and buying some solder paste, and using a heat gun.