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Title: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: rebcabin2 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 23:04:44
Just unboxed a new Leopold FC660C (Topre 45gm, unprinted 66-key mini). Fits RIGHT on top of my Mac Book Pro Retina; only needed to switch caps-lock and control ('cause of emacs) and I'm in love again. It's smaller than my Realforce boards, but has the same switches, which I like a tiny bit better than the Cherry Browns and Blues (but I love those too!). I like my Happy Hacker Pro2 also, but it doesn't fit cleanly on top of the MBP keyboard without nano-positioning, and, unless I'm living in emacs, having to press "function" to get (the annoyingly necessary) arrow keys is slightly annoying.

Ok, I know I am splitting hairs about which perfection is a better perfection. All four of the above-mentioned boards are 0.01-percenters :)  But this new one is tops by a hair.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 14 April 2014, 23:09:38
Great purchase man! My favorite keyboard. Sold all of my other topre for it.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 14 April 2014, 23:47:07
I would have gone for one of these in an instant if it had been available in white.

Instead I ended up with HHKB.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: esko997 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 23:49:18
Lucky you man, glad to hear another positive review of this board. Anxiously awaiting being able to pick up one of these!
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: daerid on Mon, 14 April 2014, 23:56:57
Been having so much fun with my RealForce I'm probably going to pick another one of these up soon.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: SSIPAK on Tue, 15 April 2014, 00:18:20
woot another FC660C member! welcome to the club :)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: morpheus on Tue, 15 April 2014, 00:53:02
Heck yeah I use one too. It's a blast!
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 04:21:44
FC660C is legit. It feels great, sounds great, and is just built so nicely. And dat form factor. I frequently use the same setup with it on top of my Retina MBP. Winnnn
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: blingcaps on Tue, 15 April 2014, 07:04:33
nice!  a fellow fc660c owner and fellow emacsen!
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 07:09:00
Wait… you don't live inside of emacs?

;)

I use a HHKB and have basically the same setup. There's a small amount of nano-positioning (I love this word) that I have to do when I set it on top of my laptop keyboard, but I added some larger rubber feet to the bottom which helps a lot with that.

The Leo seems like an awesome board though – everyone seems incredibly happy with it. I'm quite tempted by the blank version…
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 April 2014, 08:48:23
Quote from: SSIPAK on Tue, 15 April 2014, 00:18:20
woot another FC660C member! welcome to the club :)

Welcome, welcome. Best Topre purchase IMO, enjoy the club.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: rebcabin2 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 09:42:34
(emphasis emacs):

There are only two things I haven't been able to emacsulate (beat into submission so I can drive them entirely inside emacs :) so far -- corporate email and Mathematica. The setup to get through all the proxy and VPN hoops for "NotMuch" or some equivalent email client in emacs is just too much of a time sink (and it has to be redone too often), and half the value of Mathematica is the graphics-enabled notebook front end. But hope springs eternal and one day I shall emacsulate them too :)

emacs live is a game-changer, btw. I switched over all my customizations to it https://github.com/overtone/emacs-live

Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 07:09:00
Wait… you don't live inside of emacs?

;)

I use a HHKB and have basically the same setup. There's a small amount of nano-positioning (I love this word) that I have to do when I set it on top of my laptop keyboard, but I added some larger rubber feet to the bottom which helps a lot with that.

The Leo seems like an awesome board though – everyone seems incredibly happy with it. I'm quite tempted by the blank version…
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 10:11:22
I used Emacs Live when I was getting started, but have since stripped it out in favor of old school, hand-rolled elisp in the form of a single file (https://github.com/zachallaun/emacs-config/blob/master/init.el).
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:20:23
Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 07:09:00
Wait… you don't live inside of emacs?

;)

I use a HHKB and have basically the same setup. There's a small amount of nano-positioning (I love this word) that I have to do when I set it on top of my laptop keyboard, but I added some larger rubber feet to the bottom which helps a lot with that.

The Leo seems like an awesome board though – everyone seems incredibly happy with it. I'm quite tempted by the blank version…

DO IT!

(http://media3.giphy.com/media/4G5ZRnVji26ek/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:28:33
Want one of these with legends!
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 15 April 2014, 14:14:35
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:28:33
Want one of these with legends!

I have one like that, and sadly they do fade after a while; mine faded in less than two months of use. The caps are good either way, though.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Dyslexic on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:20:13
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:28:33
Want one of these with legends!

Linkbane is quite right, the legends on the non-blank variant are not the most durable -- perhaps buying the blank (FC660C/NB) and a set of the black on black hhkb caps would be a decent compromise? I've considered doing just that on more than one occasion. Love the black on black caps.

Another extraordinarily pleased FC660C owner reporting in. Seriously contemplating the dental band mod on this as my next experiment.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:21:24
Quote from: Dyslexic on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:20:13
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:28:33
Want one of these with legends!

Linkbane is quite right, the legends on the non-blank variant are not the most durable -- perhaps buying the blank (FC660C/NB) and a set of the black on black hhkb caps would be a decent compromise? I've considered doing just that on more than one occasion. Love the black on black caps.

Another extraordinarily pleased FC660C owner reporting in. Seriously contemplating the dental band mod on this as my next experiment.

Yes HHKB or realforce Keyset looks and holds up perfect. Dental bands + krytox lube sounds and feels amazing.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Dyslexic on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:23:53
Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:21:24
Quote from: Dyslexic on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:20:13
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:28:33
Want one of these with legends!

Linkbane is quite right, the legends on the non-blank variant are not the most durable -- perhaps buying the blank (FC660C/NB) and a set of the black on black hhkb caps would be a decent compromise? I've considered doing just that on more than one occasion. Love the black on black caps.

Another extraordinarily pleased FC660C owner reporting in. Seriously contemplating the dental band mod on this as my next experiment.

Yes HHKB or realforce Keyset looks and holds up perfect. Dental bands + krytox lube sounds and feels amazing.

Does it have to be Krytox lube? I've got a tube of EK's Mechlube 2 and I was wondering if that would suffice for this nifty little mod.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:08:00
Quote from: Dyslexic on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:23:53
Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:21:24
Quote from: Dyslexic on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:20:13
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:28:33
Want one of these with legends!

Linkbane is quite right, the legends on the non-blank variant are not the most durable -- perhaps buying the blank (FC660C/NB) and a set of the black on black hhkb caps would be a decent compromise? I've considered doing just that on more than one occasion. Love the black on black caps.

Another extraordinarily pleased FC660C owner reporting in. Seriously contemplating the dental band mod on this as my next experiment.

Yes HHKB or realforce Keyset looks and holds up perfect. Dental bands + krytox lube sounds and feels amazing.

Does it have to be Krytox lube? I've got a tube of EK's Mechlube 2 and I was wondering if that would suffice for this nifty little mod.

I used to have that lube (only put it on my stabilizers though) but no one here had any reviews on it so I tossed it and got the Krytox lube from Originative/ Techkeys. Ive ordered from both. It comes from mkawa either way I believe.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:17:18
The common wisdom is that the EK stuff is good for nothing except for stabilizers, while Krytox is good for everything except as a personal lubricant. Or maybe that too. Hmmm…
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Novus on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:51:48
Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:17:18
The common wisdom is that the EK stuff is good for nothing except for stabilizers, while Krytox is good for everything except as a personal lubricant. Or maybe that too. Hmmm…

Source experience?
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:38:03
Welp, just bought the non-printed version!

*exhales*

 ;D
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:41:22
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:38:03
Welp, just bought the non-printed version!

*exhales*

 ;D

GOOD CHOICE!  :thumb:

For work or home? ;)

Leo with blanks ftw!

(http://i62.tinypic.com/vfkev.jpg)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:48:52
Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:41:22
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:38:03
Welp, just bought the non-printed version!

*exhales*

 ;D

GOOD CHOICE!  :thumb:

For work or home? ;)

Leo with blanks ftw!

Show Image
(http://i62.tinypic.com/vfkev.jpg)


Ah man, both are beauties, but I have to say I'm drooling over that Leo. I love purple!

Good question, dustinhxc. I have to say this one is going to be for work, at home. Hah! I will most likely use it in a "lab environment" I am setting up for study.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:55:13
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:48:52
Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:41:22
Quote from: Lurch on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:38:03
Welp, just bought the non-printed version!

*exhales*

 ;D

GOOD CHOICE!  :thumb:

For work or home? ;)

Leo with blanks ftw!

Show Image
(http://i62.tinypic.com/vfkev.jpg)


Ah man, both are beauties, but I have to say I'm drooling over that Leo. I love purple!

Good question, dustinhxc. I have to say this one is going to be for work, at home. Hah! I will most likely use it in a "lab environment" I am setting up for study.

Can't wait!

Thank You! Yes the Leo is amazing, you will love it! :)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: rebcabin2 on Wed, 16 April 2014, 09:56:05
Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 15 April 2014, 10:11:22
I used Emacs Live when I was getting started, but have since stripped it out in favor of old school, hand-rolled elisp in the form of a single file (https://github.com/zachallaun/emacs-config/blob/master/init.el).

awesome init.el file. I shall pilfer indiscriminately from it :)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: kishagi on Thu, 17 April 2014, 06:57:15
When I get a job, this is the first thing Ill buy with my first paycheck.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Lurch on Thu, 17 April 2014, 07:00:14
Quote from: kishagi on Thu, 17 April 2014, 06:57:15
When I get a job, this is the first thing Ill buy with my first paycheck.
You are in the right place. :)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: combataran on Fri, 18 April 2014, 09:57:04
Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:41:22
Show Image
(http://i62.tinypic.com/vfkev.jpg)


That purple looks sick! You have a good eye ;D
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: morpheus on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:47:29
New FC660C with PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps from Leopold Korea:

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/review/8299751

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1397551733
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:53:26
Quote from: morpheus on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:47:29
New FC660C with PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps from Leopold Korea:

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/review/8299751

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1397551733

Those are some sharp legends for being dye subbed.
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:12:50
Quote from: morpheus on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:47:29
New FC660C with PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps from Leopold Korea:

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/review/8299751

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1397551733

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I need those modifiers..  :thumb:
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: Dyslexic on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:10:55
Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:12:50
Quote from: morpheus on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:47:29
New FC660C with PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps from Leopold Korea:

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/review/8299751

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1397551733

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I need those modifiers..  :thumb:

You were the first person I thought of when I saw the thread about the dyesubs. haha
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 19 April 2014, 16:11:30
Quote from: Dyslexic on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:10:55
Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:12:50
Quote from: morpheus on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:47:29
New FC660C with PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps from Leopold Korea:

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/review/8299751

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1397551733

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I need those modifiers..  :thumb:

You were the first person I thought of when I saw the thread about the dyesubs. haha

Thanks! We can hope they sell the keysets! :)
Title: Re: Leopold FC660C -- in love again
Post by: SSIPAK on Sat, 19 April 2014, 16:34:38
Quote from: dustinhxc on Sat, 19 April 2014, 16:11:30
Quote from: Dyslexic on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:10:55
Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:12:50
Quote from: morpheus on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:47:29
New FC660C with PBT Dye-Sub Keycaps from Leopold Korea:

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/review/8299751

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1397551733
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I need those modifiers..  :thumb:

You were the first person I thought of when I saw the thread about the dyesubs. haha

Thanks! We can hope they sell the keysets! :)
sadly they are not going to  :(