Urge to impulse buy rising...
Urge to impulse buy rising...
^^ I have this problem way too often.
Urge to impulse buy rising...
^^ I have this problem way too often.
I have found a way of coping with this urge.
Don't have any money.
Will this have the off center stem modifiers?
It should have NKRO since it is a PS/2 model with ISO enter. Brown switch is more likely though it might have clear. It does have the original Cherry font so the keycaps have a good chance of being the thick PBT version. Also has the cool old color Cherry logo decals which can be carefully peeled off and placed elsewhere.
can anyone confirm thick pbt?Can confirm. Backspace, ISO enter, both shift, "0", "+" and enter key on numpad are THICK PBT.
Urge to impulse buy rising...
Newly added pic shows it's MX clear. Bought 2 more :DI know, I almost want to just buy more and do a clear switch GB.
~120 mx clears, 8 cherry stabs, re-legendables keys all for 25 shipped. great deal!
messaged the seller about shipping discounts, still waiting on reply
messaged the seller about shipping discounts, still waiting on reply
? Shipping is free.
can anyone confirm thick pbt?Can confirm. Backspace, ISO enter, both shift, "0", "+" and enter key on numpad are THICK PBT.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LgryMGI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fu89mTc.jpg)
Seriously - if the F and J keys come with bar, it uses thin PBT.
EDIT: sorry for the potato pics
so did anyone else notice these are being sold by j.and.r.music.and.computer.world
so did anyone else notice these are being sold by j.and.r.music.and.computer.world
says rnykauctions to me
so did anyone else notice these are being sold by j.and.r.music.and.computer.world
says rnykauctions to me
Newly added pic shows it's MX clear. Bought 2 more :DI know, I almost want to just buy more and do a clear switch GB.
~120 mx clears, 8 cherry stabs, re-legendables keys all for 25 shipped. great deal!
Are there diodes or jumpers?
Anything related?so did anyone else notice these are being sold by j.and.r.music.and.computer.world
says rnykauctions to me
who did it say your payment was sent to??
mine said j.and.r.music.and.computer.world (rnykeb@jr.com)
God, I really didn't need another keyboard but for that price I couldn't pass one up ...
Almost Gone / 8 sold in 1 hour
0 available / 50 sold
God, I really didn't need another keyboard but for that price I couldn't pass one up ...
Same, one down and...QuoteAlmost Gone / 8 sold in 1 hour
edit: they gone!Quote0 available / 50 sold
what are jumpers?
what are jumpers?
Some Cherry boards have jumpers in switches instead of diodes.
Wish they were jumpers :/
like those blank wires?Yeah. Blank wires=jumpers
Wish they were jumpers :/
unlikely because they have 1.25 modifiers, 6.25 off-stem space bar, Re-Legendable Keycap and a partially-programmable keymap. Likely, they will have diodes instead which are better IMO.
Oh, I see, but I think these jumpers can be found easily because a lot of people will not use jumpers after they desolder keyswitches from donor boards.Wish they were jumpers :/
unlikely because they have 1.25 modifiers, 6.25 off-stem space bar, Re-Legendable Keycap and a partially-programmable keymap. Likely, they will have diodes instead which are better IMO.
I just have an older cherry board I'm trying to fix up. :D
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
I have desoldered and de-dioded a cherry board like this. Even with an 808, it's still a giant pain. Probably why I have another one sitting in the corner right now that I have not got around to...
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
I have desoldered and de-dioded a cherry board like this. Even with an 808, it's still a giant pain. Probably why I have another one sitting in the corner right now that I have not got around to...
I've done like 8 or 10, with the 808 and soldapullt. Good to do when watching tv.
I recommend jumpers or diodes to stabilize the switch better for PCB mount. Cherry uses them for a reason.
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
I have desoldered and de-dioded a cherry board like this. Even with an 808, it's still a giant pain. Probably why I have another one sitting in the corner right now that I have not got around to...
I've done like 8 or 10, with the 808 and soldapullt. Good to do when watching tv.
I recommend jumpers or diodes to stabilize the switch better for PCB mount. Cherry uses them for a reason.
I recommend jumpers or diodes to stabilize the switch better for PCB mount. Cherry uses them for a reason.
but den no LEDs :'(
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It probably doesn't help that I did this while wearing this stupid brace on my left hand which prevents me from using my left thumb. Made opening the switches difficult. That's what I get for severing my tendon... oopsShow Image(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/jbedwell81/20140324_142907_zps6376eb93.jpg)
I recommend jumpers or diodes to stabilize the switch better for PCB mount. Cherry uses them for a reason.
but den no LEDs :'(
LEDs are a type of diode. I didn't exclude them...
Maybe there's a better place to discuss this, so feel free to point me appropriately.
I also bought one of these keyboards, hoping to desolder the switches and reuse the keycaps. I can't remember the last time I desoldered anything of this magnitude. So, what's the suggested tools to make this easier?
Based on what I'm reading in this thread, if I wanted to reuse these switches with an Ergodox, I would need to also open up each switch to remove the diode, correct?
How could I miss this :'(
Well the caps are interesting since they're lasered but use Cherry font, damn, 50 pcs and I just missed this, how in the hell :'(
Maybe there's a better place to discuss this, so feel free to point me appropriately.
I also bought one of these keyboards, hoping to desolder the switches and reuse the keycaps. I can't remember the last time I desoldered anything of this magnitude. So, what's the suggested tools to make this easier?
Based on what I'm reading in this thread, if I wanted to reuse these switches with an Ergodox, I would need to also open up each switch to remove the diode, correct?
Maybe there's a better place to discuss this, so feel free to point me appropriately.
I also bought one of these keyboards, hoping to desolder the switches and reuse the keycaps. I can't remember the last time I desoldered anything of this magnitude. So, what's the suggested tools to make this easier?
Based on what I'm reading in this thread, if I wanted to reuse these switches with an Ergodox, I would need to also open up each switch to remove the diode, correct?
I bought an old WYSE terminal board with plate mounted vintage blacks in it the other day. I used my Weller WES50 along with this Soldapullt (http://www.amazon.com/Edsyn-Deluxe-Soldapullt-DS017LS-Static-Safe/dp/B0019V5HRA) solder sucker and was able to completely remove all 101 switches in just under an hour. Put a dab of solder on the tip of your iron, touch it to the solder joint until it becomes liquid, put the solder sucker over it and hit the button. That solder sucker gets nearly every drop of solder out of the joint 98% of the time. Its pretty easy stuff, just tedious.
I didn't realize when I bought one that these were PCB mounted components. Im not sure what Im going to do with mine yet, though my initial inclination is to rip out all the good parts (switches, stabs, caps, and sticker) and sell them to try to recover my costs. I don't currently own any boards that are PCB mount and I don't know if I ever will.
Maybe there's a better place to discuss this, so feel free to point me appropriately.
I also bought one of these keyboards, hoping to desolder the switches and reuse the keycaps. I can't remember the last time I desoldered anything of this magnitude. So, what's the suggested tools to make this easier?
Based on what I'm reading in this thread, if I wanted to reuse these switches with an Ergodox, I would need to also open up each switch to remove the diode, correct?
I bought an old WYSE terminal board with plate mounted vintage blacks in it the other day. I used my Weller WES50 along with this Soldapullt (http://www.amazon.com/Edsyn-Deluxe-Soldapullt-DS017LS-Static-Safe/dp/B0019V5HRA) solder sucker and was able to completely remove all 101 switches in just under an hour. Put a dab of solder on the tip of your iron, touch it to the solder joint until it becomes liquid, put the solder sucker over it and hit the button. That solder sucker gets nearly every drop of solder out of the joint 98% of the time. Its pretty easy stuff, just tedious.
I didn't realize when I bought one that these were PCB mounted components. Im not sure what Im going to do with mine yet, though my initial inclination is to rip out all the good parts (switches, stabs, caps, and sticker) and sell them to try to recover my costs. I don't currently own any boards that are PCB mount and I don't know if I ever will.
You know you can just clip the plastic legs off the bottom of pcb mount switches and they are identical to plate mount. I use nail clippers, takes two seconds.
I bought an old WYSE terminal board with plate mounted vintage blacks in it the other day. I used my Weller WES50 along with this Soldapullt (http://www.amazon.com/Edsyn-Deluxe-Soldapullt-DS017LS-Static-Safe/dp/B0019V5HRA) solder sucker and was able to completely remove all 101 switches in just under an hour. Put a dab of solder on the tip of your iron, touch it to the solder joint until it becomes liquid, put the solder sucker over it and hit the button. That solder sucker gets nearly every drop of solder out of the joint 98% of the time. Its pretty easy stuff, just tedious.
damn you geekhack!
I bought 2.
I paid $53.90 for 110 clears a few months ago. But those I don't have to desolder to use elsewhere...
desoldering is half the fun!
not with radioshack desold iron
WYSE likes to bend over the lead before solderin,g which makes them a pain to desolder compared with other techniques. I think I ended up doing my last one with braid.
Here's another G80-8113, this time with a barcode reader. Starting bid $20
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221420325054
it holds the board together. At first I asked the same question: why would they do that? Then, when I accidentally soldered a PCB on crooked, I realized.
On the WYSE board I had, they bent over the thicker pin on maybe 12-13 switches and those were spread out across the whole board. When I removed those switches, I just used the tip of my soldering iron to slightly un-bend it before using the solder sucker. It was a definite PITA but those vintage blacks made it all worthwhile ... so ridiculously smooth.
I wonder what their reason was for bending those pins like that?
Somebody with a good desoldering iron wanna run a pseduo GB for these and desolder 50 boards?
Nobody in their right mind would do this for free.
Nobody in their right mind would do this for free.
So, the switches would need to sell in the $0.50-0.85 each, shipped, range to make it worthwhile?
Here's some pictures of mine that I got. Turns out that I don't really like clears as much as I thought that I would, so I'm not going to harvest them. I already spent several hours cleaning the board so I'm just going to keep it as a collectible.
http://imgur.com/a/qcvpr
Here's some pictures of mine that I got. Turns out that I don't really like clears as much as I thought that I would, so I'm not going to harvest them. I already spent several hours cleaning the board so I'm just going to keep it as a collectible.
http://imgur.com/a/qcvpr
By what method did you clean up the PCB?
Nobody in their right mind would do this for free.
So, the switches would need to sell in the $0.50-0.85 each, shipped, range to make it worthwhile?
Pretty much. Unless you're some sort of desoldering god 50 boards will take a fair amount of time. Add in the fact you can get new clears for .50c per at MKB and it's less of a good deal. These boards are good for people who want to practice desoldering and get some parts out of it, the way I see it.
If I get browns I'm going to be so irritated. >:|
If i actually get a tracking number or at least get the item marked as shipped Ill be happyI never got either. Just showed up at my door.
We updated our description and photos today to indicate the remaining stock has no smart card reader, just card swipe, and no white switches, only brown switches. Please confirm you are okay with that, if not we will be happy to issue a refund. Let us know, thanks.
I got Clears on mine, but I got mine in the first lot. This second lot seems to be Cherry Browns.
I got Clears on mine, but I got mine in the first lot. This second lot seems to be Cherry Browns.
Damn, I would never have ordered one if I thought I would end up browns. Since my order was one of the last, if not the last, it sounds like I don't have much chance getting clears.
I found them very easy to communicate with today. They sent me that notice about no more clear boards left, I responded that I wanted a refund, and about 10 minutes later my refund was processed through paypal. I am sure if you have a legitimate gripe with them, such as "item not as described/pictured" that they will work with you on it.
edit: especially since they don't have a lot of feedback yet, so any neg feedback is really going to affect them.
I found them very easy to communicate with today. They sent me that notice about no more clear boards left, I responded that I wanted a refund, and about 10 minutes later my refund was processed through paypal. I am sure if you have a legitimate gripe with them, such as "item not as described/pictured" that they will work with you on it.
edit: especially since they don't have a lot of feedback yet, so any neg feedback is really going to affect them.
Did they pay for return shipping or no?
beware: seller has listed this board as "new" but there appears to be wear on the trackpad:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181389864664
I found them very easy to communicate with today. They sent me that notice about no more clear boards left, I responded that I wanted a refund, and about 10 minutes later my refund was processed through paypal. I am sure if you have a legitimate gripe with them, such as "item not as described/pictured" that they will work with you on it.
edit: especially since they don't have a lot of feedback yet, so any neg feedback is really going to affect them.
I got my keyboard from the first batch today. It has Clears, but no Cherry sticker :(only 1/4 of the ones I got had cherry sticker
Mine from the first batch is in terrible quality, anyone else have issues with lots of gunk on the board and staining?
I ordered a week ago today and have yet to receive a shipping notice or a tracking number.
This is pretty par for old, used cherry POS keyboards. All the ones I got in were very dirty with random staples, paperclips (even a penny) in them. It's all about the parts for me, so I don't mind.That was your instant rebate.
I have bought from these guys many times, no problems whatsoever.
I had one problem with them in the past and they gave me a full refund, if a seller gives you a full refund without hesitation, come on, you can't really complain.
I am really hoping to strike a deal with them , will let everyone know later today.
This is a total steal at $25, even for the browns. I sent them a IM to see if I can buy more as an off ebay sale. I really dont know what people are complaining about, these keyboards probably cost them a fortune when they bout them new. If I end up getting more of them, if anyone wants I will share for the same price I paid. I am going to offer to buy all they they have, wish me luck.
They just now shipped mine out :X
I dont want to brag, but I have a HUGE collection. I have several hundred IBM branded from the 70's alone. I trade them, but for every one I give up, I get 10 more.
Hopefully, they will appreciate with time, a lot of time---)
I know a lot of you will be salvaging them for parts but did anyone actually test theirs? My friend bought one on my recommendation and it seems quite broken. Sucks because he was actually planning on using it.
The results of a keytest (plus the trackpad doesn't work):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RV3C3TG.png)
Judging by the pattern, there's gotta be some broken traces?
Mine came with with Browns, a singular Tactile Grey and a singular Clear. The Grey was weird (in lieu of a Clear), but the one random Clear was really weird.
I know a lot of you will be salvaging them for parts but did anyone actually test theirs? My friend bought one on my recommendation and it seems quite broken. Sucks because he was actually planning on using it.
The results of a keytest (plus the trackpad doesn't work):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RV3C3TG.png)
Judging by the pattern, there's gotta be some broken traces?
I have gotten several like this in the past... what happens is the ribbon cables that connect the matrix and controller come loose during shipping. Just open it up and I am sure you will see what I am talking about, just need to get them reseated and it will probably work properly.Friend dropped it off at my house today for me to inspect. At first I did try to reseat all the connections but it made no difference. I then decided to detach it all and check out the PBC. Unfortunately, it was as bad as I expected:
Yeah, I got a whole stack of PCBs. Some are even still soldered. I can send you a working PCB or trade a PCB+switches for your broken one.I agree. I thought these things would have much higher build quality. For the first Cherry keyboard I've tried, it seems really poor quality. I want to punch whatever engineer decided that those ribbon cables (that attach the matrix to the controller board) should be like an inch long. PITA to reattach.
Also: this is one of the many reasons I don't like the quality of cherry KBs.
For those of us just wanting to harvest switches and parts, cherry boards are great because they are single-layered pcb + leaded solder = super easy to desolder. I was able to desolder entire board with 120 switches/diodes in an hour yesterday while watching a hockey game :DAnd put them in something more deserving!
POS cherry cases are complete *****es to deal with. No screws, but those tabs get pretty stupid sometimesit's not so bad to open up. Not like an HP 2760P or stupid lenovo Helix (also a POS) or whatever.
got mine as well....it looks really nasty
Just to make sure I accurately convey my point about nasty, here is a picture. The entire keyboard was like this, even underneath the keys. It was literally like a carpet.Wow, that beats both my MX8100 with doubleshots that coffee was spilled on and the dust on my recent MY8000Show Image(http://imgur.com/QoFilBa.jpg)
Just to make sure I accurately convey my point about nasty, here is a picture. The entire keyboard was like this, even underneath the keys. It was literally like a carpet.Show Image(http://imgur.com/QoFilBa.jpg)
That's honestly pretty clean. The PCB looks decent and you can get most of the dust out by disassembling the board and attacking it with canned air.
That's honestly pretty clean. The PCB looks decent and you can get most of the dust out by disassembling the board and attacking it with canned air.
I just got my 10 units, about half with white switches. Someone must have really pissed off this seller as they are not listing any more. They did a private auction for me. For $25, its a total steal regardless of the switch type and the dirt. Nothing compressed air can't fix--)
yup, they IM me and said some purchasers were being real ?sholes and demanding refunds for something they were essentially giving away, so they would not list anymore, I bought everything they had left. Real nice people, will stop into their store next time I am in the big apple.
yup, they IM me and said some purchasers were being real ?sholes and demanding refunds for something they were essentially giving away, so they would not list anymore, I bought everything they had left. Real nice people, will stop into their store next time I am in the big apple.
I wonder if I showed up at J&R, if they would show me to this storage room and sell me other keyboards like this...that'd be cool.yup, they IM me and said some purchasers were being real ?sholes and demanding refunds for something they were essentially giving away, so they would not list anymore, I bought everything they had left. Real nice people, will stop into their store next time I am in the big apple.
That's too bad. I had a good buying experience with them and I'm happy with the board I received.
I just got my 10 units, about half with white switches. Someone must have really pissed off this seller as they are not listing any more. They did a private auction for me. For $25, its a total steal regardless of the switch type and the dirt. Nothing compressed air can't fix--)
looks like people threatened with negative feedback, i have had this done to me once, it was not fun, total abuse of power
looks like people threatened with negative feedback, i have had this done to me once, it was not fun, total abuse of power
For what I paid I'm pretty happy overall. I wasn't expecting anything amazing for 25 bucks. My biggest complaint with them was that it took 7 days after I paid for my order to ship.
For what I paid I'm pretty happy overall. I wasn't expecting anything amazing for 25 bucks. My biggest complaint with them was that it took 7 days after I paid for my order to ship.
Sale date: 04/17/14... still in transit via UPS. If I get a stupid browns board I will be so irritated. unless this vintage browns hype catches on :|
if you get the keyboard you want, or they gave you a refund for something they could not deliver on, they more than met their obligation.
I dont think they are keyboard experts like we are, I dont even think they know what a switch is, let alone the significance of the color.
if you get the keyboard you want, or they gave you a refund for something they could not deliver on, they more than met their obligation.
I dont think they are keyboard experts like we are, I dont even think they know what a switch is, let alone the significance of the color.
Someone knows something because they specifically asked me (a week after payment) to accept a board with brown switches because that is all they had left, versus the clear switches that had been advertised and I simply told them if they couldn't deliver the originally advertised item I would accept a refund and they magically found a board with clear switches within minutes of my reply. This seems to have happened before you bought your boards and you received some of both so they obviously had some left and for whatever reason were going through them trying to get rid of the browns in place of the clears.
yup, they IM me and said some purchasers were being real ?sholes and demanding refunds for something they were essentially giving away, so they would not list anymore, I bought everything they had left. Real nice people, will stop into their store next time I am in the big apple.