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Title: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: jellyrok on Sat, 19 April 2014, 02:18:58

Hi all;

Since 96 I used several keyboards. Mitsumi, Pleomax, Dell, Apple, Hp, Logitech, Microsoft but after I noticed this world, it is a new era for me.

Attached image is the standard Turkish keyboard layout.
I use cad software for 6-7 hours and spreadsheets for 2 hours at least daily.
So the native language characters are so important for my job.

There are so much to learn from this forum but I need a start point for my needs.

Thinking of a TKL keyboard for now. HHKB or Poker like keyboards will probably slow me down as they have so many function keys.
Probably Cherry browns are suitable..
What about the keycaps? I hate stickers so laser engraving or paint job is needed.

Please guide me for vendors, sellers or sites..

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: Tony on Sat, 19 April 2014, 05:49:38

Mech keyboards usually have only standard QWERTY (US) layout and therefore keycaps, but you can set your country layout in the OS and then touch type, regardless of the legends printed on the keycaps.

If you need legends to type, then you have to buy Turkish keycaps.

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: jellyrok on Sat, 19 April 2014, 08:19:11

Quote from: Tony on Sat, 19 April 2014, 05:49:38

Mech keyboards usually have only standard QWERTY (US) layout and therefore keycaps, but you can set your country layout in the OS and then touch type, regardless of the legends printed on the keycaps.

If you need legends to type, then you have to buy Turkish keycaps.

That's the point I need help.. No one has Turkish Ready layouts to sell.

So some alternatives, experiences good or bad results would be very helpful..
Dye sub vs Engraved vs Etched  vs .. which one is logical for just one set of keycaps..

Besides someone using autocad can share experiences with the brands or anything related with mechs..

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:46:24

I think for such a "rare" layout you should consider WASD Keyboards, they can make you keycaps with custom printing. You could also look for used Cherry G80 or G81 keyboards on Ebay that have a Turkish layout.

Layout and keyswitches are more of a matter of taste.

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: Tony on Sat, 19 April 2014, 21:35:03

Custom keycaps can be unnecessarily expensive. If you stick with Turkish layout, I think there's almost no practical solutions available.

Have you tried using US layout and a software such as Autohotkey to type Turkish characters?

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: jellyrok on Sat, 19 April 2014, 23:06:59

Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:46:24

I think for such a "rare" layout you should consider WASD Keyboards, they can make you keycaps with custom printing. You could also look for used Cherry G80 or G81 keyboards on Ebay that have a Turkish layout.

Layout and keyswitches are more of a matter of taste.

Thanks for the advice, will check them out..

Quote from: Tony on Sat, 19 April 2014, 21:35:03

Custom keycaps can be unnecessarily expensive. If you stick with Turkish layout, I think there's almost no practical solutions available.

Have you tried using US layout and a software such as Autohotkey to type Turkish characters?

Autohotkey seems interesting. I will give it a chance..thanks..

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: ynrozturk on Sun, 20 April 2014, 09:58:07

You can use Autohotkey like someone else mentioned. As for the caps, just use blanks caps and not have to worry about the characters.

Selam bu arada.

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: jellyrok on Mon, 21 April 2014, 01:45:58

Quote from: ynrozturk on Sun, 20 April 2014, 09:58:07

You can use Autohotkey like someone else mentioned. As for the caps, just use blanks caps and not have to worry about the characters.

Selam bu arada.

I didn't have time to check autohotkey but; this keyboard will be rarely used by my wife also.. so blank keys and software based solutions are not an option..

In the end everything is getting clear day by day..

As I don't have any options to try different keyboards I'll pull the trigger for Filco Majestouch 2 TKL Browns. I've read so many good comments about it..

Custom keyset from WASD is a must. But have questions about it also..

I checked the designs that were made by others but none of them choose the font used on the one below.
I think that's Helvetica and curious about: is it because of the shape of the keycaps or something else?

(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/12250)

I plan to use the above color scheme or the one below:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2ihbakp.jpg)

ynrozturk : Selamlar, yorumlarını bekliyorum..

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 April 2014, 05:41:18

hey jellyrok, like others have said, your best bet is WASD keyboards, they have some templates you should start from, you can find them here http://support.wasdkeyboards.com/customer/portal/articles/1380026-layout-template-files

let me know if you need help with the layout

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 21 April 2014, 07:23:53

Quote from: jellyrok on Mon, 21 April 2014, 01:45:58

Custom keyset from WASD is a must. But have questions about it also..

I checked the designs that were made by others but none of them choose the font used on the one below.
I think that's Helvetica and curious about: is it because of the shape of the keycaps or something else?

Show Image

(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/12250)

I plan to use the above color scheme or the one below:

Show Image

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2ihbakp.jpg)

I'm not sure if I understand your question. The keycaps you posted were not made by WASD.

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: jellyrok on Mon, 21 April 2014, 08:55:00

Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 21 April 2014, 07:23:53

Quote from: jellyrok on Mon, 21 April 2014, 01:45:58

Custom keyset from WASD is a must. But have questions about it also..

I checked the designs that were made by others but none of them choose the font used on the one below.
I think that's Helvetica and curious about: is it because of the shape of the keycaps or something else?

Show Image

(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/12250)

I plan to use the above color scheme or the one below:

Show Image

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2ihbakp.jpg)

I'm not sure if I understand your question. The keycaps you posted were not made by WASD.

You are right; I just mentioned the "color Scheme" not the keycaps itself..

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 April 2014, 09:04:44

BTW, I love frank franzetta!

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: jellyrok on Mon, 21 April 2014, 09:27:41

Quote from: Matt3o on Mon, 21 April 2014, 09:04:44

BTW, I love frank franzetta!

we need to remember some values about the old days..

if you love frazetta probably you will also love vallejo and rojo too.

below is a short clip for the masters of fiction the old fashioned way.. ;D

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 April 2014, 09:34:07

vallejo, rojo, elmore I love all of them. but Franzetta has a special place in my heart :)

Title: Re: Need Advice for a Beginner (Turkish Layout)
Post by: davkol on Tue, 22 April 2014, 14:00:52

BTW why Q-keyboard and not F-keyboard?