If youre looking for cheap 7x bars, 11800 is best option (but like you said the color is off)
If you want a more standard color, dyesub sets will have them, but dyesub sets are a bit expensive.
Compaq MX 11800 board. ... the keys are really nothing to write home about except for the fact it has the 7x PBT spacebar with standard stem positions.I heard that some of these keyboards have thick 1u PBT keys while others have thin PBT keys. All are still lasered and in a shade that is specific for the Compaq MX 11800.
German Cherry dyesubs from ebay.de and take the space bar from that.There are also winkeyless Cherry keyboards with lasered thick PBT keys. The space bar is the same as when the other keys have dye-sub legends.
Just wanted to say thanks for the informative post :thumb:
Hmm, well at the very least, are all (unmodified) 11800 boards guaranteed to have a PBT bar? There are quite a few on eBay.yea 11800 has pbt
How are you so certain? I'm not sure. All the other Cherry boards I've bought with PBT caps have had ABS spacebars. Do you have a link?
My 11800 has PBT, and I really doubt cherry would put pbt on one board out of all of their boards
Are you REALLY sure they're PBT? Like, you've done the acetone test to the underside, and it wasn't affected? Because Cherry liked to make ABS spacebars in molds that had PBT stamped in them.
I can confirm Cherry G80-11800 has a thick PBT space bar (4 stems on the bottom totally).
7x Cherry PBT space bar weight: ~7.5g
7x GMK ABS space bar weight : ~6.8g
7x SP ABS space bar weight: ~6.2g
I can confirm Cherry G80-11800 has a thick PBT space bar (4 stems on the bottom totally).
7x Cherry PBT space bar weight: ~7.5g
7x GMK ABS space bar weight : ~6.8g
7x SP ABS space bar weight: ~6.2g
is the molding of the Cherry and GMK space bars exactly the same? (Including stems) If not, that could account for the weight difference rather than the density of the material.
They are not exactly the same but they have similar structures. The PBT space bar is hard and steady. It is not easy to bend the PBT one while the ABS is. Plus, the PBT space has well-finished shapes, surfaces and corners. It is not easy to tell in the picture but I believe we all can tell which one is a PBT space bar when we touch it and try to bend it.
Here is my comparison between the three 7x space bars
Atrocious lighting, but here is an MX 11800 all-PBT spacebar with the Originative BSP set. The match is not exact, but it's not bad. If you didn't know there was a difference, you'd probably never notice.
off topic: I think I am going to desolder the right shift and nudge it over to the 2.75x position; don't think I'm going to get a beige 1.75x shift for a while.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ugzSG8B.jpg)
Judging from those winkeys and the f and j nubs it looks like he's using a BSP set, which are A profile. A profile mods are a bit higher than "normal" mods, which is probably what you're observing.
Correct. The spacebar is std Cherry profile. The mismatch is very minor and doesn't bother me, especially considering it's a full PBT spacebar. Worth it :D
Also, the perspective of the shot is distorting things and greatly exaggerating the perceived height difference. It's quite a good match.