Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:36:49
How much interest is there in the following GMK bundle?
- Classic Beige 1.25x mods
- Center stem, full-touch caps lock
- 6.25x spacebar
- 1.75x right shift as a bonus
There are quite a few folks with winkeyless BSP classic beige PBT sets, but it's next to impossible to find the right doubleshot mods to make them work on modern keyboards.
If we have GMK make these, we'll be mixing plastics, but it will make the Originative and upcoming Imsto sets much more useful. There really isn't a better option, AFAIK, since BSP doesn't have 1.25x molds.
Or, maybe it is time for a bona fide classic beige group buy? ^-^
What do you guys think?
Tell me, would you buy:
A) This bundle
B) Full classic beige GMK
C) Both
Also, how many folks would like to add a 7x spacebar to the bundle as well?
ALSO, does anyone have both BSP and GMK sets? If so, can you photograph the keys side by side so we can see how close of a match the colors are?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:39:58
is it a classic beige set with 1.25x mods and a 6.25x spacebar, and comes with a 1.75 shift and a 7x spacebar (and an offset caps lock)?
I'm so confused
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:41:48
Post by: b7ad on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:42:18
Post by: epzy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:43:36
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:48:01
There are quite a few folks with winkeyless BSP classic beige PBT sets, but it's next to impossible to find the right doubleshot mods to make them work on modern keyboards.
What molds doubleshot do we can't find ?
Post by: epzy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:48:04
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:52:11
There are quite a few folks with winkeyless BSP classic beige PBT sets, but it's next to impossible to find the right doubleshot mods to make them work on modern keyboards.
What molds doubleshot do we can't find ?
If you want 1.25x mods or the center-stem caps lock, you have to find someone willing to break up an existing classic beige set. So it's nigh impossible. The 1.75x right shift is even harder to find, AFAIK you have to find an old school Cherry one.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 16:59:11
Post by: b7ad on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:03:45
OK thanks ur anwser :) But what logo we 'll go to for wincaps? I like old windows logo & hate win8 logo :p
Also would vote for the classic windows logo, although I'd personally be looking ideally for a blank set!
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:04:06
OK thanks ur anwser :) But what logo we 'll go to for wincaps? I like old windows logo & hate win8 logo :p
I completely agree. I want something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/gUWgQxq.png)
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:06:20
+1 :thumb:OK thanks ur anwser :) But what logo we 'll go to for wincaps? I like old windows logo & hate win8 logo :p
I completely agree. I want something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gUWgQxq.png)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:14:49
Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:25:02
Post by: b7ad on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:27:07
Post by: cphead on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:29:31
Anyways I'd love a blue font classic beige set (a la olivetti). Classic beige is always in demand.
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:32:22
I love 1.75 right shifts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for championing it!
Anyways I'd love a blue font classic beige set (a la olivetti). Classic beige is always in demand.
Olivetti is great, but I think black font on beige is a safer choice.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:04:56
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:15:55
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:16:48
Post by: avtar on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:17:20
Tell me, would you buy:
A) This bundle
B) Full classic beige GMK
C) Both
B) -- I would prefer to pick up a full set.
A) -- Failing that I would get this bundle.
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:22:00
Why not just do a full set + this bundle + 1 fn key? I'd buy the **** out of that.
That's probably the smartest thing to do. Replies so far indicate that people want both, which is not really a surprise. Obviously the key question is whether people will buy both :p Let's see what people say over the next week or so.
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:23:40
Also, how many folks would like to add a 7x spacebar to the bundle as well?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:30:33
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:32:25
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:34:33
Does anyone have both BSP and GMK sets? If so, can you photograph the keys side by side so we can see how close of a match the colors are?Ugh, I've got Cherry dyesubs and NIB Cherry doubleshots if that helps. Not sure if colours are exactly the same though.
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:41:12
I'm sure somebody has the exact stuff...
Post by: epzy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:44:43
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:50:49
I vote for B though lets just do a classic beige GB it should sell well. Maybe have this as an add on?
Tinlong also has an IC going for a moogle but its seems to be dead for now.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56588.0
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:53:06
This is essentially a moogle kit right? If not seems like it may as well be so that you could use these with vintage cherry sets that have 1.5 mods. Should only be a few more keys. I think there are more people with incomplete doubleshot sets that could add to the MOQ than there is with incomplete PBT sets.
I vote for B though lets just do a classic beige GB it should sell well. Maybe have this as an add on?
Tinlong also has an IC going for a moogle but its seems to be dead for now.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56588.0
It's pretty close, I am open to adding the rest of the Moogle parts if it's affordable and people want it.
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:12:34
Top is 3000SAG dyesubs
Bottom is 5000HAMPO doubleshots. No yellowing, from a NIB board.
Colours are definitely a little different.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:30:13
OK thanks ur anwser :) But what logo we 'll go to for wincaps? I like old windows logo & hate win8 logo :p
I completely agree. I want something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gUWgQxq.png)
^ +1 ^
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:10:35
Post by: ironic moustache on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:16:57
Post by: anoxy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:55:38
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:09:55
And, I'll be aggravated if the full set undermines the bundle, 'cause that's what I need ;)
Also, how many folks would like to add a 7x spacebar to the bundle as well?
I would be in for that. 1.5x and 1x mods too?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:15:28
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:17:18
Chance of hitting MOQ for a full set is almost zero. There are so many classic beige floating around and there are so many ways you can get a set.
I actually couldn't disagree more. It's not particularly easy to round up a set with all the right parts, and there's a reason why the Originative sets are in such high demand on the secondary market.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:19:33
Chance of hitting MOQ for a full set is almost zero. There are so many classic beige floating around and there are so many ways you can get a set.
Please describe where to get them. Only places I know are originative (sold out) classifieds (nutin) and OG cherry boards (even more scarce)
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:33:04
Chance of hitting MOQ for a full set is almost zero. There are so many classic beige floating around and there are so many ways you can get a set.
Please describe where to get them. Only places I know are originative (sold out) classifieds (nutin) and OG cherry boards (even more scarce)
Post by: avtar on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:41:48
Chance of hitting MOQ for a full set is almost zero. There are so many classic beige floating around and there are so many ways you can get a set.
I actually couldn't disagree more. It's not particularly easy to round up a set with all the right parts, and there's a reason why the Originative sets are in such high demand on the secondary market.
Exactly. I would like to have a decent and complete set (6.25u spacebar, all the mods, etc) but don't want to go through the mix and match game.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:50:12
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:51:10
Well, maybe it's only true in China, where it's easy to find old Cherry board and caps. To be honestly, I know very little about old Cherry board market in US. I would really love to see a full set classic beige hitting MOQ but Ivan's failure in recent full set group buy and the fact that there are many old Cherry sets floating around in China makes me pessimistic.Yes, there are lots of Cherry sets out there. How many are mint condition? In fact, how many don't have any shine?
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:52:43
Well, maybe it's only true in China, where it's easy to find old Cherry board and caps. To be honestly, I know very little about old Cherry board market in US. I would really love to see a full set classic beige hitting MOQ but Ivan's failure in recent full set group buy and the fact that there are many old Cherry sets floating around in China makes me pessimistic.
Can you link to the Ivan GB you're talking about?
Post by: avtar on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:54:49
Well, maybe it's only true in China, where it's easy to find old Cherry board and caps. To be honestly, I know very little about old Cherry board market in US. I would really love to see a full set classic beige hitting MOQ but Ivan's failure in recent full set group buy and the fact that there are many old Cherry sets floating around in China makes me pessimistic.
Can you link to the Ivan GB you're talking about?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0
Yes, there are lots of Cherry sets out there. How many are mint condition? In fact, how many don't have any shine?
This. And I can't comment on the state of sets that you mention are floating around in China, but how much would it cost someone to proxy one?
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:00:04
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0
Oh, that one. Yes, a shame, but frankly I think classic beige is in considerably higher demand than WoB/gray. I have only anecdotal evidence to support that claim, but it's a strong feeling.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:06:03
Well, maybe it's only true in China, where it's easy to find old Cherry board and caps. To be honestly, I know very little about old Cherry board market in US. I would really love to see a full set classic beige hitting MOQ but Ivan's failure in recent full set group buy and the fact that there are many old Cherry sets floating around in China makes me pessimistic.Yes, there are lots of Cherry sets out there. How many are mint condition? In fact, how many don't have any shine?
I'm not trying to argue that it's easy to get classic beige set in good condition. The price of old Cherry caps have been ridiculously high in China recently AFAIK and it still doesn't stop people from trying their luck. I saw a lot of people posting old classic beige set on keyboard forums in China and that's why I was under the impression that a lot of people have that set. That explains why I voiced my concern about hitting MOQ. I could be completely wrong. I just thought this might be some information whoever is interested in this groupbuy wanted to know. That's it.
Post by: avtar on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:08:23
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0
Oh, that one. Yes, a shame, but frankly I think classic beige is in considerably higher demand than WoB/gray. I have only anecdotal evidence to support that claim, but it's a strong feeling.
It seems a lot of people were also pretty hung up on Dolch sets as opposed to the proposed grey one. I still hope the grey one happens at some point :/ In any case, I agree that the classic beige set will probably be pretty popular like Dolch.
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:10:31
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0
Oh, that one. Yes, a shame, but frankly I think classic beige is in considerably higher demand than WoB/gray. I have only anecdotal evidence to support that claim, but it's a strong feeling.
It seems a lot of people were also pretty hung up on Dolch sets as opposed to the proposed grey one. I still hope the grey one happens at some point :/ In any case, I agree that the classic beige set will probably be pretty popular like Dolch.
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:16:04
I'm not trying to argue that it's easy to get classic beige set in good condition. The price of old Cherry caps have been ridiculously high in China recently AFAIK and it still doesn't stop people from trying their luck. I saw a lot of people posting old classic beige set on keyboard forums in China and that's why I was under the impression that a lot of people have that set. That explains why I voiced my concern about hitting MOQ. I could be completely wrong. I just thought this might be some information whoever is interested in this groupbuy wanted to know. That's it.
It's cool man, it's never a bad thing to have a dissenting voice. Some organizations even have a system where one man is obligated to dissent when there is unanimous agreement. You could be right (but I hope you're not) :p
Post by: bazh on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:29:10
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:36:25
All of which is to say: full set, and let the GB numbers speak for themselves.
Post by: avtar on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:58:14
Post by: bazh on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:07:37
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:08:21
or for hitting MoQ, we can have some interesting sub-legend, like the purple one on some G80-1000 boardNot sure UK ISO would hit MOQ :))
Post by: bazh on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:09:49
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:17:55
do it in ANSI \m/I think those purple legends on that 1000HAG only have a purpose on UK ISO, unless you're thinking of making up some new purple legends.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:27:38
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 28 April 2014, 23:44:26
It's everything you need to use an Originative or IMSTO set with a standard board. But speak up if you would also like/prefer a full classic beige GMK set.
I would love to get a full classic white/beige GMK set.
Also would be interested in getting a separate pro pack with the 1.25 mods, center stem caps lock, etc. (Depending on price)
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 29 April 2014, 00:05:22
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 00:07:07
Post by: Heezy on Tue, 29 April 2014, 00:45:47
could there be a mod only set?
I think this should be included, a full set and a mod bundle.
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 29 April 2014, 03:53:10
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 29 April 2014, 04:14:38
I know there are plenty of people that will buy the whole set and there are those that need the moogle so why not both? I would buy both!
Post by: iAmAhab on Tue, 29 April 2014, 05:03:33
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 29 April 2014, 07:43:49
will be pretty nice if i can get a winkey bottom row to perfect the set:thumb:
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 17:08:00
We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps :p
(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1651391789_4c31dadc_kmacotd2.jpg)
(picture of Dubs)
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 17:15:31
Vote C
We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps :pShow Image(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1651391789_4c31dadc_kmacotd2.jpg)
(picture of Dubs)
That does look good, but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.
Post by: UniClown on Tue, 29 April 2014, 17:19:34
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 17:27:51
Vote C
We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps :pShow Image(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1651391789_4c31dadc_kmacotd2.jpg)
(picture of Dubs)
That does look good, but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.
Yeah of course :) but we can add it as options. May be someone wanna it :p
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 17:35:35
Vote C
We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps :pShow Image(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1651391789_4c31dadc_kmacotd2.jpg)
(picture of Dubs)
That does look good, but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.
Yeah of course :) but we can add it as options. May be someone wanna it :p
If they were a add on option I would get them :D
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 17:36:27
Vote C
We can go to Capslock & Scroll lock arrow as below picture? Even add some windowed caps :pShow Image(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1651391789_4c31dadc_kmacotd2.jpg)
(picture of Dubs)
That does look good, but I think that text looks better on a classic scheme.
Yeah of course :) but we can add it as options. May be someone wanna it :p
If they were a add on option I would get them :D
Yeah same me hahaha :p
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 20:44:59
Post by: avtar on Tue, 29 April 2014, 20:53:32
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:05:47
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:09:08
Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.
Sure we will. Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57669.0;topicseen). I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down. Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:12:18
Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.
Sure we will. Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57669.0;topicseen). I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down. Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.
What happened to last Ivan's fullset GB?
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:14:07
Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.
Sure we will. Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57669.0;topicseen). I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down. Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.
OC peeps think alike ;)
Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.
Sure we will. Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57669.0;topicseen). I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down. Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.
What happened to last Ivan's fullset GB?
That was a not so popular single color set. Classic beige is classic beige.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:14:38
Post by: cphead on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:15:39
Full set? We will never hit the MOQ.
Sure we will. Or are you just crapping the thread because you want your more expensive set to be successful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57669.0;topicseen). I'd rather buy a marginally more expensive full set and would definitely be down. Hell, if we had a $100 full set, I'd be down for two or three, even if I just resold one or two later.
What happened to last Ivan's fullset GB?
The demand for two tone classic beige is much higher than single tone white on dark gray. The idea for white on dark gray was to have a base set for mixing and matching mods and alphas, but with classic beige you don't have to do that. It's also much more attractive to people just getting into keyboards.
Of course, no one knows if this will reach MOQ without trying it :p
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:16:48
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:18:55
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
^ this. Ivan's dark grey full set is $120 for almost all layout you can think of but it still didn't hit MOQ.
link: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.0)
Again, I'm just trying to provide the right information. Not saying this buy won't hit MOQ or anything.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:19:53
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
I don't consider it selfish to want a GB to succeed. :rolleyes:
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:27:17
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP? I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK. If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras. They can sell them to recoup their losses.
And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:28:34
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP. I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it.
Typical American.
I mean ISO users also pay what they don't/have no use. We have this discussion for so many times so I'm not going to bring this up again.
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And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time.IVAN thinks the same.
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If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.MOQ of SP sets - 1
MOQ of GMK sets - 250
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:29:52
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:30:47
IVAN thinks the same.Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP. I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it.
And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.
Well we don't even have one going right now.
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:49:12
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:50:53
What GB is Ivan running right now?
Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)
Post by: bazh on Tue, 29 April 2014, 22:02:21
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 22:09:49
What GB is Ivan running right now?
Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)
I thought the black on black PBT was finished just waiting on samples. I know that he is taking polls for R2 novelty caps.
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 22:40:14
What GB is Ivan running right now?
Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)
I thought the black on black PBT was finished just waiting on samples. I know that he is taking polls for R2 novelty caps.
Well yeah I meant thats what he has going on. He has no current GMK buy as far as I know.
Post by: pasph on Wed, 30 April 2014, 04:07:28
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP? I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK. If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras. They can sell them to recoup their losses.
And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.
Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 April 2014, 04:23:51
What GB is Ivan running right now?
Black on black PBT. He said he will be doing a Dolch GMK soon. (I think he is also doing a novelty key buy as well. Dude is a GB stud!)
I thought the black on black PBT was finished just waiting on samples. I know that he is taking polls for R2 novelty caps.
Well yeah I meant thats what he has going on. He has no current GMK buy as far as I know.
Yeah I think he is still deciding whether he is doing his next set in PBT or GMK. I hope it's a classic beige/white PBT set.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 30 April 2014, 04:55:41
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP? I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK. If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras. They can sell them to recoup their losses.
And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.
Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".
Ughhh neither of those have the MOQ of GMK, how is that a fair comparison?
Post by: Candyflip on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:09:59
Nor the GMK price..Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP? I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK. If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras. They can sell them to recoup their losses.
And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.
Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".
Ughhh neither of those have the MOQ of GMK, how is that a fair comparison?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:24:20
Even still... that groupbuy came only 40 sets short of the 250 MOQ. If Korea forums participated at all then it probably would have happened but I have no idea what their deal is lately. Seems like they have all gone back to separatist stance.
Dolch buy will start soon, next month sometime.
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 13:00:54
With GMK... offering DE,IT,ES,NO,SE,FR...etc. there is not enough interest from those people to reach MOQ of 250. With SP stuff you can offer anything as long as it makes like MOQ of 10 and people will pay that price it can be made. For GB though... it's like 4 keys extra on US so it's not a big deal to offer that ISO. But even still I will probably be cutting those dedicated keys and have the GB alternate letter pad side print on the US ones along with chopping some of the extra others that are not so common that were on the white/grey set from before.
Even still... that groupbuy came only 40 sets short of the 250 MOQ. If Korea forums participated at all then it probably would have happened but I have no idea what their deal is lately. Seems like they have all gone back to separatist stance.
Dolch buy will start soon, next month sometime.
If you don't go ISO kit, maybe we can't to lead some member on DT to participate group buy who they like ISO layout
Good news about dolch :thumb:
Post by: Signature on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:11:45
+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 April 2014, 23:15:30
+1+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
Post by: avtar on Wed, 30 April 2014, 23:41:21
+1+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
+1
Post by: chongu on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:23:02
+1. Like a previous guy said: no harm trying.+1+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
+1
Post by: TBone on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:31:06
+1 I'd be in!+1. Like a previous guy said: no harm trying.+1+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
+1
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 01 May 2014, 01:00:27
+1 I'd be in!+1. Like a previous guy said: no harm trying.+1+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
+1
+1 especially originative can not be trusted right now
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 01 May 2014, 12:04:23
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 01 May 2014, 13:55:43
After Dolch I wanted to try Commodore style inverted beige/white.Pics?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 01 May 2014, 13:59:10
After Dolch I wanted to try Commodore style inverted beige/white.Pics?
From Ivan, in the dark grey groupbuy thread.
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/0e30fc6f.jpg)
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 01 May 2014, 15:03:03
Interesting thanksAfter Dolch I wanted to try Commodore style inverted beige/white.Pics?
From Ivan, in the dark grey groupbuy thread.Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/0e30fc6f.jpg)
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 01 May 2014, 22:19:59
After Dolch I wanted to try Commodore style inverted beige/white.
Yes. This is what I'm waiting for. Not really interested in dolch.
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 22:22:47
+1s all around+1 I'd be in!+1. Like a previous guy said: no harm trying.+1+1Ideally I wish we could get a GB that offers a full set of GMK white/beige.
+1
+1
+1 especially originative can not be trusted right now
Post by: padath on Fri, 02 May 2014, 02:10:10
With GMK... offering DE,IT,ES,NO,SE,FR...etc. there is not enough interest from those people to reach MOQ of 250. With SP stuff you can offer anything as long as it makes like MOQ of 10 and people will pay that price it can be made. For GB though... it's like 4 keys extra on US so it's not a big deal to offer that ISO. But even still I will probably be cutting those dedicated keys and have the GB alternate letter pad side print on the US ones along with chopping some of the extra others that are not so common that were on the white/grey set from before.
I really hope that you can include those additional ISO/UK keys like you did in the ill-fated grey group buy.
AFAIK nobody has done a GMK ISO Dolch set before so you are our only hope...
Post by: pasph on Fri, 02 May 2014, 19:02:11
Ivan's current BSP set looks like it's going forward. His last full set was unsuccessful because he was trying to please everyone and it was something like $200 to get a normal usable set. A more standard $100 full set ANSI layout will easily hit the MOQ.
It was like $130 or $120 at the end. Also, only ANSI? That's selfish.
EDIT: I don't think it's good to have 2 GMK full sets GB at the same time.
Emphasis on at the end. I stopped following the thread because the price was all over the place. I'm sure tons of other people stopped looking because they only knew about the incredibly expensive $200+ full set and never saw the price changes. If you have a low initial price, more people are willing to commit.
And what's selfish about ANSI? Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. Why should the community carry ISO on GMK when they can't even hit minimum quantities at SP? I'm all for making ISO and helping if it's a little short, but when you can't even hit the low SP minimums, it's not fair to the community to subsidize it on GMK. If you want ISO, split the cost of the minimum and give the ISO buyers the extras. They can sell them to recoup their losses.
And who cares what you think about two GMK sets at the same time. If we can have multiple people committing to $150+ on two different SP sets being made at the same time, who's to say they can't commit to $200 on two higher quality good GMK sets.
Have you seen Granite GB?
Have you seen R5 GB?
Iso people (not you) has paid for their INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE KITS (not for 4 Keys iso kit).
I don't want your "charity".
Ughhh neither of those have the MOQ of GMK, how is that a fair comparison?
Please note that he was talking of GBs in general and also of SP gbs:
" Honestly, ISO is the biggest drag on any GB. If you look at the numbers, Tsangan kits get more commits than ISO sets in group buys. ISO just fails, even with SP numbers. "
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:22:24
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:26:27
Is there any estimates on when this will happen (if it does)?
I have been contacted by a couple other GH users that have been planning something like this for a while. They asked me not to share details yet. So I probably won't run this as a GB, but there should be a chance in the not-too-distant future to get this stuff. In the mean time, pipe up if you have suggestions.
Post by: anoxy on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:27:43
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:30:27
Is there any estimates on when this will happen (if it does)?
I have been contacted by a couple other GH users that have been planning something like this for a while. They asked me not to share details yet. So I probably won't run this as a GB, but there should be a chance in the not-too-distant future to get this stuff. In the mean time, pipe up if you have suggestions.
Would that happen to be Bunny :)?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:31:13
So vague.
It's not vague. intelli78's reply just reveals what Bunny's next group buy would be. I know I have the right guess. I know that!
EDIT: hahahahaaha. CommonCurt knows what I'm thinking about.
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:38:17
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:53:17
I am not trying to mislead or obscure my intentions in any way. They said they'll be offering a chance to get this stuff, but explicitly asked me to keep the details private for now. They asked me not to do this GB, because it would undermine what they're planning. I am respecting their wishes. I can't make any promises because it's out of my hands right now, but just sit tight, and if what they say is true, all will be good.
Hopefully it is bunny, and hopefully he includes a full beige set!!!!!!
Bunny the people must know!!! :D
Post by: anoxy on Fri, 02 May 2014, 21:11:49
I am not trying to mislead or obscure my intentions in any way. They said they'll be offering a chance to get this stuff, but explicitly asked me to keep the details private for now. They asked me not to do this GB, because it would undermine what they're planning. I am respecting their wishes. I can't make any promises because it's out of my hands right now, but just sit tight, and if what they say is true, all will be good.Ok fine, I am appeased. :cool:
Post by: avtar on Fri, 02 May 2014, 21:46:51
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 03:50:09
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 13:07:41
Post by: Karura on Thu, 21 August 2014, 03:50:29
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 04:41:33
I honored the request. We will see what happens...
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 21 August 2014, 05:01:27
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:41:52
I would really like a classic beige GMK set, curious on who will run it. Hope is ivan I like his style :thumb:
+1
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:55:31
As I mentioned, a couple users contacted me about this IC and asked that I not run it because they were planning something similar. They also asked me not to name them or mention any further details...
I honored the request. We will see what happens...
Its been a number of months. Seems like they weren't very serious about it...
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 22 August 2014, 08:05:32
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 21 September 2014, 11:42:07
I'm now sure! ;D This will be happening soon. Classic black on beige done properly.
Any suggestions on keys please let me know.
The current plan for the sets is :
Main set :
- Full winkey set
- B-profile winkeyless modifiers
- Stepped and full-touch caps locks
- Full winkeyless, A-profile bottom row
- Windowed lock keys
- UK ISO keys
- Short right shift + 1u key
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
All legends will be standard ANSI, just like the original Cherries.
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 21 September 2014, 11:48:08
I would like the modifiers to be the classic ones, with legends not the new icon ones (handbag Caps). The icon ones look unbalanced, I would get it anyway, but would like it more this way :)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 21 September 2014, 11:56:53
Cool :cool: I wanted a classic black on beige for some time, love the classic look :thumb:They will be like this dude :cool:
I would like the modifiers to be the classic ones, with legends not the new icon ones (handbag Caps). The icon ones look unbalanced, I would get it anyway, but would like it more this way :)
(http://i.imgur.com/W121N.jpg)
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 21 September 2014, 11:58:52
That's what I'm talking about :thumb: the real s**t :cool:Cool :cool: I wanted a classic black on beige for some time, love the classic look :thumb:They will be like this dude :cool:
I would like the modifiers to be the classic ones, with legends not the new icon ones (handbag Caps). The icon ones look unbalanced, I would get it anyway, but would like it more this way :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/W121N.jpg)
I have WoB so that part is covered, if I get also this I don't need anything else :d
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 21 September 2014, 12:10:50
- C Profile - Home and End
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 21 September 2014, 12:16:15
Post by: billnye on Sun, 21 September 2014, 13:11:22
Sorry for keeping you guys in the dark about this. It's me and some others that have been working on this. I just did not want to announce this until I was sure it would happen.
I'm now sure! ;D This will be happening soon. Classic black on beige done properly.
Any suggestions on keys please let me know.
The current plan for the sets is :
Main set :Extra set :
- Full winkey set
- B-profile winkeyless modifiers
- Stepped and full-touch caps locks
- Full winkeyless, A-profile bottom row
- Windowed lock keys
- UK ISO keys
- Short right shift + 1u key
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
All legends will be standard ANSI, just like the original Cherries.
:) :)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 21 September 2014, 13:26:57
Can't believe I didn't see that thread when it was originally posted :D
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 21 September 2014, 13:59:08
For MX5000, right? Can be added to the extra set, because currently there really aren't many keys there.
Yeah. Sounds good.
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 21 September 2014, 14:31:43
Sorry for keeping you guys in the dark about this. It's me and some others that have been working on this. I just did not want to announce this until I was sure it would happen.Oh yes
I'm now sure! ;D This will be happening soon. Classic black on beige done properly.
Any suggestions on keys please let me know.
The current plan for the sets is :
Main set :Extra set :
- Full winkey set
- B-profile winkeyless modifiers
- Stepped and full-touch caps locks
- Full winkeyless, A-profile bottom row
- Windowed lock keys
- UK ISO keys
- Short right shift + 1u key
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
All legends will be standard ANSI, just like the original Cherries.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 21 September 2014, 17:52:02
Sorry for keeping you guys in the dark about this. It's me and some others that have been working on this. I just did not want to announce this until I was sure it would happen.
I'm now sure! ;D This will be happening soon. Classic black on beige done properly.
Any suggestions on keys please let me know.
The current plan for the sets is :
Main set :Extra set :
- Full winkey set
- B-profile winkeyless modifiers
- Stepped and full-touch caps locks
- Full winkeyless, A-profile bottom row
- Windowed lock keys
- UK ISO keys
- Short right shift + 1u key
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
All legends will be standard ANSI, just like the original Cherries.
Great news. What style win keys will be used?
Post by: Karura on Sun, 21 September 2014, 18:02:19
Cool :cool: I wanted a classic black on beige for some time, love the classic look :thumb:They will be like this dude :cool:
I would like the modifiers to be the classic ones, with legends not the new icon ones (handbag Caps). The icon ones look unbalanced, I would get it anyway, but would like it more this way :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/W121N.jpg)
I would like to see extra spacebars as an option. Kinda like what Ivan did for a set of 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u extra spacebars set for the Dolch GB.
Post by: feizor on Sun, 21 September 2014, 18:49:46
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 21 September 2014, 18:51:47
Great news. What style win keys will be used?I would like to go with old style winkeys, but I think they would have to be pad printed.
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/tinlong117/IMG_0376.jpg)
Can't stress this enough! Really would like any input I can get! :thumb:
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
Post by: pasph on Sun, 21 September 2014, 19:09:07
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 21 September 2014, 21:38:19
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 21 September 2014, 21:42:40
Great news. What style win keys will be used?I would like to go with old style winkeys, but I think they would have to be pad printed.Show Image(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/tinlong117/IMG_0376.jpg)Can't stress this enough! Really would like any input I can get! :thumb:
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
Excellent. I always prefer the old school logo. Especially with the classic color combos.[/list]
Post by: feizor on Sun, 21 September 2014, 22:26:13
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 21 September 2014, 22:41:30
Great news. What style win keys will be used?I would like to go with old style winkeys, but I think they would have to be pad printed.Show Image(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/tinlong117/IMG_0376.jpg)Can't stress this enough! Really would like any input I can get! :thumb:
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
The old style win logo is cool, but pad printing really sucks. Maybe you can offer doubleshot win8 keys as well?
Concerning extra keys:
What about 1unit keys for the bottom row with the cherry logo? This way you could use vintage sets on korean customs ;)[/list]
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 21 September 2014, 22:56:13
Post by: luckyryan333 on Sun, 21 September 2014, 23:28:06
Sorry for keeping you guys in the dark about this. It's me and some others that have been working on this. I just did not want to announce this until I was sure it would happen.
I'm now sure! ;D This will be happening soon. Classic black on beige done properly.
Any suggestions on keys please let me know.
The current plan for the sets is :
Main set :Extra set :
- Full winkey set
- B-profile winkeyless modifiers
- Stepped and full-touch caps locks
- Full winkeyless, A-profile bottom row
- Windowed lock keys
- UK ISO keys
- Short right shift + 1u key
- Space for more keys-- Input needed!
All legends will be standard ANSI, just like the original Cherries.
Sounds great!
Well, I know at least 10 or more guys aka "CLASSIC-CHERRY-KEYCAP-HOLICS" around me.
Maybe or not, they would get crazy if they heard about this EXCITING news.
If needed, I'll let you know how many guys are interested.
Hope 1x win key and 1x context menu key would be included in the set.
and pad-printing for win logo is not preferred.
Wait for your new thread for this GB.
Post by: TBone on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:08:29
Even if pad printed, I'd still like them!
Something like this but without the window, maybe black?
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9507/cherrycap1.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:10:57
The pad printed windows key is a turn off for me, I won't put pad printed keys on my boards. I second the suggestion of having a doubleshot W8 key.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:32:57
Great news. What style win keys will be used?I would like to go with old style winkeys, but I think they would have to be pad printed.Show Image(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/tinlong117/IMG_0376.jpg)
If you end up going with the win8 logo, please offer another option for those of us that don't like it. [/list]
Post by: Sempre on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:36:24
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:39:50
Will the set include space bars?
Strongly suggest you make 6.25x and 7x spacebars available as an add-on, because they seem to be so hard to find. I'm sure these options would be huge.
Post by: bueller on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:46:22
Great news. What style win keys will be used?I would like to go with old style winkeys, but I think they would have to be pad printed.Show Image(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/tinlong117/IMG_0376.jpg)
If you end up going with the win8 logo, please offer another option for those of us that don't like it. [/list]
Every time.
Post by: Karura on Mon, 22 September 2014, 01:14:45
Would be cool to know :)
Post by: DanielT on Mon, 22 September 2014, 03:29:04
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 September 2014, 06:27:17
That said, I think the best solution is to have 2 of each.
Thanks all for the input. It helps.
Post by: DanielT on Mon, 22 September 2014, 06:32:31
It's worth noting that GMK pad printing can barely be considered pad printing. It's really, really great. When it's dark print on lighter keycap it's just as clear as doubleshot. No, really, it looks _exactly_ the same. I guarantee you can't tell the difference without taking macro photos. And.. since it has a clear coat it won't wear out for a long time.+1 here :) I like GMK pad printing, and to have the old Win logo it priceless :cool: I kind of hate the Win8 one, not a big fan.
That said, I think the best solution is to have 2 of each.
Thanks all for the input. It helps.
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 22 September 2014, 07:14:29
R1 1u backslash/pipe
R2 1.5u backspace/delete
R3 1.75u control
Maybe this could be part of the set with the split R-shift since it's *HHKB-like*
Post by: bueller on Mon, 22 September 2014, 07:52:34
Post by: Orca on Mon, 22 September 2014, 07:57:54
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 22 September 2014, 08:14:13
Extra sets are mostly pointless unless they're color accent sets, the MOQ is killer.
I think you're right that most extra sets wouldn't make MOQ, but it might still be worthwhile to offer the kit to gauge interest for the future.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 22 September 2014, 08:21:03
Cherry logos aren't possible, GMK isn't allowed to make them without permission from Cherry.
The pad printed windows key is a turn off for me, I won't put pad printed keys on my boards. I second the suggestion of having a doubleshot W8 key.
the vintage windows logo's detail is too small to be double-shot, the old double-shot logo like Sherry's GB is suck to me compared to the win8 one
//and yes, please, bring the A-profile back
Post by: bueller on Mon, 22 September 2014, 08:25:54
Totally agree, I have both the old and new style windows keys in double shot and I much prefer the new style. In saying that it's not a deal breaker for me either way so long as there is a DS one included.Cherry logos aren't possible, GMK isn't allowed to make them without permission from Cherry.
The pad printed windows key is a turn off for me, I won't put pad printed keys on my boards. I second the suggestion of having a doubleshot W8 key.
the vintage windows logo's detail is too small to be double-shot, the old double-shot logo like Sherry's GB is suck to me compared to the win8 one
//and yes, please, bring the A-profile back
Post by: bazh on Mon, 22 September 2014, 08:28:08
Totally agree, I have both the old and new style windows keys in double shot and I much prefer the new style. In saying that it's not a deal breaker for me either way so long as there is a DS one included.Cherry logos aren't possible, GMK isn't allowed to make them without permission from Cherry.
The pad printed windows key is a turn off for me, I won't put pad printed keys on my boards. I second the suggestion of having a doubleshot W8 key.
the vintage windows logo's detail is too small to be double-shot, the old double-shot logo like Sherry's GB is suck to me compared to the win8 one
//and yes, please, bring the A-profile back
I don't mind the padded key after I see some of them in the origin Cherry set, really high quality printed :p
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 22 September 2014, 12:55:29
Additionally, and I may have said so before, but vintage Cherry came in a myriad of different beige shades, so the best thing to do on a beige modifier kit would be to go all the way so there are not any shade mismatches. Or at least do all of tab, caps, shifts, ctrls, alts, wins, menu, enter, backspace... and np enter, +, -, ÷, × and numlock so at least sections are all uniform.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:07:09
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:19:44
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:27:56
I thought this would be going on as a full set?Yes, that's what I'm planning.
Additionally, and I may have said so before, but vintage Cherry came in a myriad of different beige shades.Does GMK offer any colours that come very close to any of the original colours? [I don't yet have a colour ring :p]
Post by: swornxin on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:32:56
Post by: Karura on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:36:18
I would be in for a full set of classic beige if it were GMK. Or I'd be in for a 7x space bar alone if that were an option.
There are lots of sets out there that are only missing the 6.25u and 7u spacebar, so it would be really awesome if we could have an option just for that.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 22 September 2014, 21:23:57
I was planning on doing inverse, so the alphanumerics are 'beige' and the mods and stuff is on 'white'.
Is this still going to happen sometime after the Dolch GB finishes up? I was pretty excited about that.
Post by: Patchwrks on Mon, 22 September 2014, 22:38:20
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:31:41
I was planning on doing inverse, so the alphanumerics are 'beige' and the mods and stuff is on 'white'.
Is this still going to happen sometime after the Dolch GB finishes up? I was pretty excited about that.
Yes, will probably start it in the next few week.
(https://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
N9 legend with U9 alphas and L9 mods. Essentially Goupil colorway but flipped like Commodore.
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:40:19
I was planning on doing inverse, so the alphanumerics are 'beige' and the mods and stuff is on 'white'.
Is this still going to happen sometime after the Dolch GB finishes up? I was pretty excited about that.
Yes, will probably start it in the next few week.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
N9 legend with U9 alphas and L9 mods. Essentially Goupil colorway but flipped like Commodore.
Instabuy as all your GBs :p
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 23 September 2014, 22:22:56
It's worth noting that GMK pad printing can barely be considered pad printing. It's really, really great. When it's dark print on lighter keycap it's just as clear as doubleshot. No, really, it looks _exactly_ the same. I guarantee you can't tell the difference without taking macro photos. And.. since it has a clear coat it won't wear out for a long time.
That said, I think the best solution is to have 2 of each.
Thanks all for the input. It helps.
Sorry if this has been answered already, but about how long until this GB starts?
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 24 September 2014, 13:32:15
Sorry if this has been answered already, but about how long until this GB starts?Hopefully November. It would be sooner, but don't want to get in the way of another GB that will be coming soon from someone else ;)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 24 September 2014, 14:11:11
Sorry if this has been answered already, but about how long until this GB starts?Hopefully November. It would be sooner, but don't want to get in the way of another GB that will be coming soon from someone else ;)
Are you talking about Hyperfuse GMK? I can't wait for that one!
But don't worry, I'll buy your set as well :p
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 24 September 2014, 15:18:26
Actually I think the L9 is a little bit more "lime color" than the original cherryI was planning on doing inverse, so the alphanumerics are 'beige' and the mods and stuff is on 'white'.
Is this still going to happen sometime after the Dolch GB finishes up? I was pretty excited about that.
Yes, will probably start it in the next few week.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
N9 legend with U9 alphas and L9 mods. Essentially Goupil colorway but flipped like Commodore.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:32:09
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 25 September 2014, 19:43:47
Lime color? AE is the one closest to lime color. I think your display must be broken as it's L9 more like one of those 'bisque' color shades.I am sorry, i shouldn't say lime color, i just don't know how to describe it. but the color of the gmk one and the original one are quite different
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Post by: TBone on Thu, 25 September 2014, 19:50:12
Which one is GMK? Left?Lime color? AE is the one closest to lime color. I think your display must be broken as it's L9 more like one of those 'bisque' color shades.I am sorry, i shouldn't say lime color, i just don't know how to describe it. but the color of the gmk one and the original one are quite different
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The right just looks more white to me, left one looks a little yellower, maybe.
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 25 September 2014, 20:15:00
the left one is GMK. I have placed the left one under no direct sun light, so there should be no yellowingWhich one is GMK? Left?Lime color? AE is the one closest to lime color. I think your display must be broken as it's L9 more like one of those 'bisque' color shades.I am sorry, i shouldn't say lime color, i just don't know how to describe it. but the color of the gmk one and the original one are quite different
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The right just looks more white to me, left one looks a little yellower, maybe.
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 25 September 2014, 21:01:37
Lime color? AE is the one closest to lime color. I think your display must be broken as it's L9 more like one of those 'bisque' color shades.I am sorry, i shouldn't say lime color, i just don't know how to describe it. but the color of the gmk one and the original one are quite different
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I believe that the different shades of double shot layers affect the outer second shot colour. I'll take some pics of some GMK keys in a few. Hopefully it'll be noticeable in picture.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 25 September 2014, 21:10:54
Lime color? AE is the one closest to lime color. I think your display must be broken as it's L9 more like one of those 'bisque' color shades.I am sorry, i shouldn't say lime color, i just don't know how to describe it. but the color of the gmk one and the original one are quite different
(Attachment Link)
I believe that the different shades of double shot layers affect the outer second shot colour. I'll take some pics of some GMK keys in a few. Hopefully it'll be noticeable in picture.
I doubt that very much, keen to see pics though if you're sure.
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 25 September 2014, 21:52:23
Lime color? AE is the one closest to lime color. I think your display must be broken as it's L9 more like one of those 'bisque' color shades.I am sorry, i shouldn't say lime color, i just don't know how to describe it. but the color of the gmk one and the original one are quite different
(Attachment Link)
I believe that the different shades of double shot layers affect the outer second shot colour. I'll take some pics of some GMK keys in a few. Hopefully it'll be noticeable in picture.
I doubt that very much, keen to see pics though if you're sure.
Only have phone pics for now, since I don't have a macro lens yet :'( (Camera failed miserably at focusing on the keys)
I took the following two pics last week when I was discussing colours combinations with some friends: (Took the pics at night, so colour shift is a bit exaggerated)
GMK "Raindrop" down arrow key. N5 blue on UN0001. You can see the blue actually made the creamier white "colder". For reference, GMK UN0001 white is a warmer tone than Vortex PBT White.
(http://i.imgur.com/sgUwdWt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xFd5P9n.jpg)
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I just took the following two pics right now:
GMK "Red Alert" arrow keys.
CP white on V1 Red. IRL, the side walls of these keys are a touch lighter than the V1 Red from the GMK colour ring.
(http://puu.sh/bO7hY/7ea0389973.png)
Another shot of the GMK "Raindrop" arrow key. N5 blue on UN0001 white. Whites on the arrow key is a touch colder:
(http://puu.sh/bO7jo/fae1f33975.png)
*Blue is a bit off from the real thing (on my monitor set to sRGB at least)
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 September 2014, 21:57:19
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:14:25
GMK Raindrop?
My precious... :rolleyes:
Post by: bueller on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:28:31
GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:34:32
GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
GMK Olivetti Originative sold uses N5 blue on L9 beige for the arrow keys. This is N5 on UN0001.
Post by: TBone on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:39:32
GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
GMK Olivetti Originative sold uses N5 blue on L9 beige for the arrow keys. This is N5 on UN0001.
When and where did GMK do raindrop?? Did I miss this? :(
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:47:17
+1...GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
GMK Olivetti Originative sold uses N5 blue on L9 beige for the arrow keys. This is N5 on UN0001.
When and where did GMK do raindrop?? Did I miss this? :(
Post by: bueller on Thu, 25 September 2014, 23:06:50
GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
GMK Olivetti Originative sold uses N5 blue on L9 beige for the arrow keys. This is N5 on UN0001.
When and where did GMK do raindrop?? Did I miss this? :(
They haven't, I'm guessing this is some sort of sampler? OP give us some details.
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 26 September 2014, 00:24:33
GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
GMK Olivetti Originative sold uses N5 blue on L9 beige for the arrow keys. This is N5 on UN0001.
When and where did GMK do raindrop?? Did I miss this? :(
They haven't, I'm guessing this is some sort of sampler? OP give us some details.
Mhm, it came as part of the sampler kit I requested. I've got lots of ideas for GMK GBs. ;) Don't want to derail the thread anymore, so IC ideas will come soon.
Post by: Karura on Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:15:37
GMK Raindrop?
I'm guessing he means Olivetti?
GMK Olivetti Originative sold uses N5 blue on L9 beige for the arrow keys. This is N5 on UN0001.
When and where did GMK do raindrop?? Did I miss this? :(
They haven't, I'm guessing this is some sort of sampler? OP give us some details.
Mhm, it came as part of the sampler kit I requested. I've got lots of ideas for GMK GBs. ;) Don't want to derail the thread anymore, so IC ideas will come soon.
Looking forward to it. As another fellow BC person, I don't mind helping out if you need assistance.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 28 September 2014, 10:49:58
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 02 October 2014, 22:41:16
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 10 November 2014, 22:30:36
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 November 2014, 22:33:43
WHatever happened to talk of a full classic beige set? Still holding out hope it will happen.Depending on who you listen to there's a 'secret' buy coming.
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 10 November 2014, 22:35:12
I have heard whispers of such a buy. I hope the secret part means its kept a secret until it gets revealed. I guess you couldn't really do a hush hush GB with GMK with the moq and all.WHatever happened to talk of a full classic beige set? Still holding out hope it will happen.Depending on who you listen to there's a 'secret' buy coming.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 10 November 2014, 23:29:50
Post by: Karura on Mon, 10 November 2014, 23:35:16
WHatever happened to talk of a full classic beige set? Still holding out hope it will happen.Depending on who you listen to there's a 'secret' buy coming.
Secret? Secret as in someone will buy GMK keycaps and mail em to me??
Seriously though.. we really need this GB to happen. What is the status of it?
There are so many BSP sets from IMSTO that would benefit from these :P
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 11 November 2014, 07:26:43
WHatever happened to talk of a full classic beige set? Still holding out hope it will happen.It's happening. The fire at my place has delayed things, but it's happening rest assured.
I haven't heard anything about a 'secret buy' :confused:
Post by: findingthelimit on Sun, 16 November 2014, 21:10:00
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 17 November 2014, 00:40:51
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 17 November 2014, 01:03:45
Can this pleassse come out? I have the GMK mods for one of my boards. I need this for my other board with G80 set on it.
We'll apparently have not just one, but two chances to get this kit. Photekq's group buy (if/when it finally happens), and Ivan said he's going to run it too (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1537051#msg1537051).
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 17 November 2014, 01:46:41
Can this pleassse come out? I have the GMK mods for one of my boards. I need this for my other board with G80 set on it.
We'll apparently have not just one, but two chances to get this kit. Photekq's group buy (if/when it finally happens), and Ivan said he's going to run it too (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1537051#msg1537051).
Awesome! Thank you very much! :-)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 17 November 2014, 01:50:00
Can this pleassse come out? I have the GMK mods for one of my boards. I need this for my other board with G80 set on it.
We'll apparently have not just one, but two chances to get this kit. Photekq's group buy (if/when it finally happens), and Ivan said he's going to run it too (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1537051#msg1537051).
Too many GMK sets have been stuck in "soon" limbo this year, I'm not getting excited until there's money down and the MOQ is met. Was excited for Feng's Cyan mod pack but then it got changed to a full set so I had to get a refund.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 17 November 2014, 02:05:28
Too many GMK sets have been stuck in "soon" limbo this year, I'm not getting excited until there's money down and the MOQ is met. Was excited for Feng's Cyan mod pack but then it got changed to a full set so I had to get a refund.
If you just stopped being poor, that wouldn't be a problem. Come on man.
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 17 November 2014, 02:05:35
Post by: bueller on Mon, 17 November 2014, 02:09:34
Too many GMK sets have been stuck in "soon" limbo this year, I'm not getting excited until there's money down and the MOQ is met. Was excited for Feng's Cyan mod pack but then it got changed to a full set so I had to get a refund.
If you just stopped being poor, that wouldn't be a problem. Come on man.
I could probably afforded it but I honestly couldn't ever see myself using those alphas. Never been a fan of light coloured legends on white.
Post by: GoatMaster on Mon, 17 November 2014, 03:09:39
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 17 November 2014, 04:08:23
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 17 November 2014, 06:07:46
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Post by: billnye on Mon, 17 November 2014, 06:29:12
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
I belief in u photek man :-)
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 17 November 2014, 07:26:23
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Good to hear. I'm looking forward to it.
Post by: bueller on Mon, 17 November 2014, 07:49:18
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Awesome man. I might actually have to buy a second set seeing as how my Originative set has seen so much use.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 17 November 2014, 07:59:29
Great to hear this. I am fan of classic beige set. But Originative set have Tab issue, and i can't accept. I hope this gb can fix that :)If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 17 November 2014, 08:02:55
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Looking forward to this!
Can you tease which kits you will offer?
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:30:38
I don't think it will be much easier to order on a website.
We'll still pass a 45 day window.
You'll still have to pay all applicable fees.
It will probably save you some organizational time, sure;
this could be handy if you plan on running multiple or concurent GBs.
Not crapping, cause I'll be buying this.
I'm just wondering if it's more of a stall, whether or not it's intentional.
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:34:35
I'm just not sure the point of the site.It's necessary because Paypal hates preorders/group buys. Stripe will be used instead, and for Stripe a website is quite useful.
I don't think it will be much easier to order on a website.
We'll still pass a 45 day window.
You'll still have to pay all applicable fees.
It will probably save you some organizational time, sure;
this could be handy if you plan on running multiple or concurent GBs.
Not crapping, cause I'll be buying this.
I'm just wondering if it's more of a stall, whether or not it's intentional.
Oh, and it'll be bilingual to get orders from other communities, to ensure MOQ is reached.
Why would I be stalling? I want to get this going as much as everyone else!
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:44:38
It's necessary because Paypal hates preorders/group buys. Stripe will be used instead, and for Stripe a website is quite useful.
Oh, and it'll be bilingual to get orders from other communities, to ensure MOQ is reached.
Why would I be stalling? I want to get this going as much as everyone else!
I said whether or not it's intentional.
Never used stripe, interested to see it in action.
Edit: nm, stripe does international banks too.
Wonder if the validation is quick, paypal is slow as snails.
Post by: TBone on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:49:57
Great to hear this. I am fan of classic beige set. But Originative set have Tab issue, and i can't accept. I hope this gb can fix that :)If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Pardon my ignorance, what's the tab issue? I couldn't find anything about this.
Post by: billnye on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:51:28
Great to hear this. I am fan of classic beige set. But Originative set have Tab issue, and i can't accept. I hope this gb can fix that :)If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Pardon my ignorance, what's the tab issue? I couldn't find anything about this.
He used a weird legend, I'll find a pic of it.
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:57:50
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/26/original/qapusuny.jpg)
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 17 November 2014, 12:01:54
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Thanks for the input! Cool, a new website. Will it be your website? GMK? Gh? Who's website? Very interested to see and buy!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 17 November 2014, 13:41:51
If neither of those materialize, then I will do it myself. That was my original plan, but Photekq asked me not to run the GB so he could roll it into his. One way or another, we'll get these kits.Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Thanks for the input! Cool, a new website. Will it be your website? GMK? Gh? Who's website? Very interested to see and buy!
It's his own website. ;)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 19 November 2014, 09:40:28
Post by: frosty on Thu, 20 November 2014, 04:09:00
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 November 2014, 23:47:59
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 20 November 2014, 23:54:35
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 November 2014, 23:58:15
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 00:02:07
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 21 November 2014, 00:13:51
Can you do symbol & text legend instead only symbol legend?
I prefer text + symbols also :thumb:
If it has to be one or the other then text.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 21 November 2014, 00:19:23
I'm just waiting for pricing on all the kits from GMK and I'll be kicking off the new buy as soon as I have them in.
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 21 November 2014, 08:06:13
Maybe I do one type, Photekq does the other, everyone happy?I think this is a good idea. I'm doing text+icon modifiers, just like 3000HAU.
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 21 November 2014, 11:35:10
Maybe I do one type, Photekq does the other, everyone happy?I think this is a good idea. I'm doing text+icon modifiers, just like 3000HAU.
Yeah, let's just hope this won't make it more difficult to reach MOQ.
Having said that I'll order both of course :thumb:
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 22:19:44
Text only mods are going to be default in the next base set so I'll either be running symbols and text
Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy??
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 21 November 2014, 23:05:04
Maybe I do one type, Photekq does the other, everyone happy?I think this is a good idea. I'm doing text+icon modifiers, just like 3000HAU.
Do you think this GB will happen before, or after Xmas?
Post by: Karura on Wed, 26 November 2014, 01:57:09
Text only mods are going to be default in the next base set so I'll either be running symbols and text, or symbols only again for mods pack.
I'm just waiting for pricing on all the kits from GMK and I'll be kicking off the new buy as soon as I have them in.
Maybe I do one type, Photekq does the other, everyone happy?I think this is a good idea. I'm doing text+icon modifiers, just like 3000HAU.
What color codes do you guys plan to use? Just wanting to make sure everything will match up nicely
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 November 2014, 10:22:11
row E: `~ , \| , Num Lock, divide, multiply, minus, Backspace (1x & 2x), 2 blank 1x
row D: Tab, \| , delete 1.5, 2 blank 1x
row C: 1.75 Caps Lock (fulltouch and stepped), 1.75 Control, 2.25 Enter, ISO Enter, plus, 2 blank 1x
row B: Shift (1, 1.25, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75), 2 Control (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Alt (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Windows (1, 1.25), Menu (1, 1.25), Fn, Blanks (2 1x, 2 1.25, 2 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75)
A little larger and more expensive, but should be able to patch kits for nearly any keyboard out there. Mine will be starting very soon, perhaps as early as next week.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 26 November 2014, 10:42:09
I'll be using all U9 key. Kit will include:
row E: `~ , \| , Num Lock, divide, multiply, minus, Backspace (1x & 2x), 2 blank 1x
row D: Tab, \| , delete 1.5, 2 blank 1x
row C: 1.75 Caps Lock (fulltouch and stepped), 1.75 Control, 2.25 Enter, ISO Enter, plus, 2 blank 1x
row B: Shift (1, 1.25, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75), 2 Control (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Alt (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Windows (1, 1.25), Menu (1, 1.25), Fn, Blanks (2 1x, 2 1.25, 2 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75)
A little larger and more expensive, but should be able to patch kits for nearly any keyboard out there. Mine will be starting very soon, perhaps as early as next week.
Damn that look nice .
When you say 2 Windows (1, 1.25) , that mean there's a total of 4 ? 2*1u & 2*1.25u ?
It sound like this kit will be about 40-50$ ?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 November 2014, 11:17:54
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 26 November 2014, 13:56:25
I'll be using all U9 key. Kit will include:
row E: `~ , \| , Num Lock, divide, multiply, minus, Backspace (1x & 2x), 2 blank 1x
row D: Tab, \| , delete 1.5, 2 blank 1x
row C: 1.75 Caps Lock (fulltouch and stepped), 1.75 Control, 2.25 Enter, ISO Enter, plus, 2 blank 1x
row B: Shift (1, 1.25, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75), 2 Control (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Alt (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Windows (1, 1.25), Menu (1, 1.25), Fn, Blanks (2 1x, 2 1.25, 2 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75)
A little larger and more expensive, but should be able to patch kits for nearly any keyboard out there. Mine will be starting very soon, perhaps as early as next week.
Great kit! It includes everything I could ask for.
I assume you will do icon only again? Or is there a chance for text + icon?
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 26 November 2014, 16:04:18
I'll be using all U9 key. Kit will include:
row E: `~ , \| , Num Lock, divide, multiply, minus, Backspace (1x & 2x), 2 blank 1x
row D: Tab, \| , delete 1.5, 2 blank 1x
row C: 1.75 Caps Lock (fulltouch and stepped), 1.75 Control, 2.25 Enter, ISO Enter, plus, 2 blank 1x
row B: Shift (1, 1.25, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75), 2 Control (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Alt (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Windows (1, 1.25), Menu (1, 1.25), Fn, Blanks (2 1x, 2 1.25, 2 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75)
A little larger and more expensive, but should be able to patch kits for nearly any keyboard out there. Mine will be starting very soon, perhaps as early as next week.
Great when i have heard this :thumb: And all things is ABS Double shot?
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 16:37:04
I'll be using all U9 key. Kit will include:
row E: `~ , \| , Num Lock, divide, multiply, minus, Backspace (1x & 2x), 2 blank 1x
row D: Tab, \| , delete 1.5, 2 blank 1x
row C: 1.75 Caps Lock (fulltouch and stepped), 1.75 Control, 2.25 Enter, ISO Enter, plus, 2 blank 1x
row B: Shift (1, 1.25, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75), 2 Control (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Alt (1, 1.25, 1.5), 2 Windows (1, 1.25), Menu (1, 1.25), Fn, Blanks (2 1x, 2 1.25, 2 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.75)
A little larger and more expensive, but should be able to patch kits for nearly any keyboard out there. Mine will be starting very soon, perhaps as early as next week.
Great kit! It includes everything I could ask for.
I assume you will do icon only again? Or is there a chance for text + icon?
+1 sounds good. I would also like to know if you decided to go with text , icon, or both?
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 26 November 2014, 16:53:16
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:00:34
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:44:58
Please be text + legend...
This has my vote. :thumb:
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 November 2014, 18:34:37
Post by: Karura on Thu, 27 November 2014, 00:14:31
I will be doing symbols only since photekq will be doing symbols w/text whenever they are ready to move forward.
You set looks good to me. Any chance of including a down-arrow Capslock logo?
I could probably just buy a German cherry set, but it would be awesome if your set came with it :)
Otherwise, looks solid to me.
Edit:
Also what about spacebars? I would like the chance to get both extra 6.25u and 7u ones.
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 27 November 2014, 07:10:05
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 27 November 2014, 12:10:40
Post by: ninjadoc on Thu, 27 November 2014, 13:19:00
Post by: geogga on Thu, 27 November 2014, 13:33:58
Post by: Karura on Thu, 27 November 2014, 15:14:10
Since Cherry used at least 2 dozen different tones of 'beige' between 1984 and 2009 the chances that it will all match are pretty slim hence the full blocks instead of only 1.25 mod and fulltouch caps lock. Many people have been interested in spacebars again... so I may offer them in random colors once again but request to have different colors than last time. I suppose I can take the inverted shift arrow for caps lock legend if it's preferred over the lock. Makes no real difference to me.
Additional coloured space bars will be nice :P
What I am trying to say is that I would like to see the U9 kit include matching U9 spacebars in both 6.25u and 7u, for the sake of completeness (unless I'm mistaken, I don't see it included). That way, it will truly be a complete set, allowing for the possibility of completing BSP sets, in either winkey or winkeyless layouts.
As much as I love padlock, I think downshift arrow would be a nice change and add some variation to our GMK sets that have almost all been padlocks lately :)
Not sure if others feel the same way; we will see.
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 28 November 2014, 11:33:31
I suppose I can take the inverted shift arrow for caps lock legend if it's preferred over the lock. Makes no real difference to me.
My vote goes to the down arrow caps lock key :thumb:
Never really liked the lock...
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 28 November 2014, 13:33:22
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 November 2014, 15:52:41
I suppose I can take the inverted shift arrow for caps lock legend if it's preferred over the lock. Makes no real difference to me.
My vote goes to the down arrow caps lock key :thumb:
Never really liked the lock...
+1
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 30 November 2014, 11:32:36
Post by: billnye on Sun, 30 November 2014, 11:45:16
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 30 November 2014, 14:16:26
Post by: billnye on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:07:19
what group buy?
Apologies to everyone who's waiting for a beige GB for this. The original plan was to have this happen quite a while ago, and it's been in the works before this thread was even made. But various things got in the way. Quotes/mockups from GMK are ready, I'm just waiting for the website to be finished [which is necessary, and very close to happening, just delayed by the fire in my place].
Needless to say I wouldn't have asked intelli to let me do it if I weren't confident I could make it happen. I'm still confident, I'm just annoyed by all the delays. I could have done it sooner with the classic spreadsheet/Paypal gift approach but I feel this is a much neater alternative and that it'll be worth the wait. As most people know, I'm a huge fan of the beige colour scheme and I'll be making sure it's done justice.
Watch this space.
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 01 December 2014, 09:13:37
Post by: swornxin on Wed, 03 December 2014, 15:31:45
(http://i.imgur.com/QbptGG8.png)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 December 2014, 18:05:55
Will be starting as soon as I have the pricing... probably next week.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 03 December 2014, 18:08:47
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 18:21:50
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 December 2014, 19:22:19
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bZ3UXkz.png)
Will be starting as soon as I have the pricing... probably next week.
Yay :) I plan on getting this set + the one Photekq is doing with text legends. Can never have enough black on beige ;)
How long will this GB run for?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 December 2014, 19:56:12
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 20:19:43
Post by: ebacho on Wed, 03 December 2014, 21:06:04
Post by: Elocutive on Wed, 03 December 2014, 21:07:29
Post by: bueller on Wed, 03 December 2014, 21:19:57
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bZ3UXkz.png)
Will be starting as soon as I have the pricing... probably next week.
R3 Control key?!?!?! You just got my money.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 December 2014, 21:41:14
Plan to collect order for 1 month from launch date.
I noticed Feng doing it also. Why are you making the division and multiplication symbols next to the Numlock key on the numpad instead of / and * ?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 December 2014, 21:56:14
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:19:35
Why not have the correct ÷ and × when they are available? / and * are stand ins for the same thing divide and multiply.
Oh I didn't know that was the correct layout. I have a G80-3700HQAUS and it has the / and *. In fact all the numpads I have seen have had the / and * next to Numlock.
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:39:16
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58608.0;attach=83177;image)
That mean GMK can do 2 type? True? If so, you can do both?
Post by: swornxin on Wed, 03 December 2014, 23:44:19
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 23:46:12
So wait are you doing classic beige or reverse classic beige?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bZ3UXkz.png)
Will be starting as soon as I have the pricing... probably next week.
Post by: Razer1987 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 02:43:47
I am a newbie in the vintage Cherry world. I am gonna received my first Cherry DS set from a G81-1000HDF (azerty). It seems that modifiers are more grey than beige and alphas are black on white. I understand that i will never be able to find a matching moogle kit in terms of colour and profile. So i would like to keep the white Alphas and find a modifiers kit from a future GMK group buy.
Classic beige modifiers were orginally mixed with black on white alphas ? (do you have a keyboard reference number ?)
I am curious, why this IC kit seems to cover only 60% keyboard and numpad ? What about F5 to F8, cursors, end, home etc., they weren't beige ?
Last question, i am little confused by the read of the 10 pages, it's gonna be PBT dyesub or DS ABS ?
Thank you for your help.
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 03:32:02
I am curious, why this IC kit seems to cover only 60% keyboard and numpad ? What about F5 to F8, cursors, end, home etc., they weren't beige ?
This IC kit is only extendsion kit for special keyboard & symbol keycaps. So it 's not enough for modifier of keyboard.
So, you should wait photek 's group buy to get full modifier. He 'll run full set in the future :)
Last question, i am little confused by the read of the 10 pages, it's gonna be PBT dyesub or DS ABS ?
All is ABS Double shot
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 04 December 2014, 04:31:33
@Photekq Any idea when we'll be able to see your intended layout (for lack of a better term) so we can decide if we need Ivan's mod pack also?I'm still waiting for final mockups/quotes. I had to go back and change a few things.
Post by: Razer1987 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 06:30:24
I am curious, why this IC kit seems to cover only 60% keyboard and numpad ? What about F5 to F8, cursors, end, home etc., they weren't beige ?
This IC kit is only extendsion kit for special keyboard & symbol keycaps. So it 's not enough for modifier of keyboard.
So, you should wait photek 's group buy to get full modifier. He 'll run full set in the future :)
Last question, i am little confused by the read of the 10 pages, it's gonna be PBT dyesub or DS ABS ?
All is ABS Double shot
Thank you for your answer.
It's like a moogle kit for various keyboard layout. I get confused by the presence of numpad modifiers.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 December 2014, 08:37:55
I'm doing reverse beige for the full set, and also these modifier add on/patch kit in beige.
I only have the main typing block modifiers and the numpad keys for balance. I think it's OK if the nav and function keys were a different tone, it are different section of keys and looks fine aesthetically in my opinion. There exists some sets where they were another color for a purpose. Leaving out all those nav and function keys will save a lot on cost.
For example:
(http://i.imgur.com/I2qpug6.jpg)
looks good to me.
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 04 December 2014, 12:28:29
All good! Thank you for the reply. Will be waiting for an update! ;D@Photekq Any idea when we'll be able to see your intended layout (for lack of a better term) so we can decide if we need Ivan's mod pack also?I'm still waiting for final mockups/quotes. I had to go back and change a few things.
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 04 December 2014, 15:02:33
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 04 December 2014, 16:54:37
I saw your mock up Commondore keyset.Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58608.0;attach=83177;image)
That mean GMK can do 2 type? True? If so, you can do both?
Definitely like the way the reversed black on beige looks :thumb:
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 20:01:05
If i want, i can change :) Only use a style is boring :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:28:28
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 05 December 2014, 12:11:45
My version of this is live! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66364.0
Yes! :thumb:
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 08 December 2014, 12:12:54
So no caps lock legend or handbag and neither Alt Gr? :/Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bZ3UXkz.png)
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 08 December 2014, 12:14:37