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Title: What keycap set is this?
Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:19:04
Hey guys, what keycap set is this? I thought its originative dolch, but the color seems lighter than it shows on the website. Is it just the lighting?

Source:

http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/420-review-the-kmac-bro/
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/dolch
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:20:06
That's original Dolch. Colours should be pretty much identical.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:24:00
^
You can see it's OG Dolch and not GMK/Originative Dolch because of the print screen key has the "sys req" side printing which GMK/Originative does not.

(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/img_0926.jpg?w=770&h=)
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:30:22
Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:24:00
^
You can see it's OG Dolch and not GMK/Originative Dolch because of the print screen key has the "sys req" side printing which GMK/Originative does not.

Show Image
(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/img_0926.jpg?w=770&h=)


Thanks for your response! Is ther no way to get an OG dolch set now, and the only manufacturer that makes anything similar is GMK / Originative?
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:37:15
You can get an original Dolch set from Dolch PAC keyboards. They come up on ebay/classifieds sometime. Just make sure you get the MX version not the ML version.

They are 1800 layout though.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:38:34
Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:30:22
Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:24:00
^
You can see it's OG Dolch and not GMK/Originative Dolch because of the print screen key has the "sys req" side printing which GMK/Originative does not.

Show Image
(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/img_0926.jpg?w=770&h=)


Thanks for your response! Is ther no way to get an OG dolch set now, and the only manufacturer that makes anything similar is GMK / Originative?

Geekhack member Ivanivanovich will be running a Dolch group buy soon.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:26:38
He said on next month :p
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:45:41
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:38:34
Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:30:22
Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:24:00
^
You can see it's OG Dolch and not GMK/Originative Dolch because of the print screen key has the "sys req" side printing which GMK/Originative does not.

Show Image
(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/img_0926.jpg?w=770&h=)


Thanks for your response! Is ther no way to get an OG dolch set now, and the only manufacturer that makes anything similar is GMK / Originative?

Geekhack member Ivanivanovich will be running a Dolch group buy soon.

I'd be tempted just to get rid of this hideous Win 8 logo the Originative set has  >:D
Literally any other Windoiws logo would be fine

I just noticed they use blanks in their photos. What a load of horse **** that is.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 19:06:29
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:38:34
Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:30:22
Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 10:24:00
^
You can see it's OG Dolch and not GMK/Originative Dolch because of the print screen key has the "sys req" side printing which GMK/Originative does not.

Show Image
(http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/img_0926.jpg?w=770&h=)


Thanks for your response! Is ther no way to get an OG dolch set now, and the only manufacturer that makes anything similar is GMK / Originative?

Geekhack member Ivanivanovich will be running a Dolch group buy soon.

Cool, thanks. But aren't the group buys organized here usually different to the original sets? What I'm saying is, is it likely that the GB that will be organized will also be Cherry profile, dyesubbed on PBT keycaps?
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 30 April 2014, 19:08:50
The originals aren't dyesubbed PBT. You can't dyesub a lighter legend on darker plastic. The originals are doubleshot ABS.

Ivan will be doing the GB through GMK. GMK owns the original moulds used for Cherry doubleshots, including Dolch. They will be EXACT replicas. Same moulds.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 01 May 2014, 12:36:01
Only legend on some keys (tab, caps lock, shifts, enter, backspace, math keys on numpad) will differ from US Dolch but would be identical to DE Dolch in the upcoming groupbuy. Since it is all made on same tooling and equipment as original it's a re-run not a replica.
To me replica is something like my Chery style dyesubs I do. It has nothing to do with the original, it only appears to be similar.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: findingthelimit on Thu, 01 May 2014, 16:17:21
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 01 May 2014, 12:36:01
Only legend on some keys (tab, caps lock, shifts, enter, backspace, math keys on numpad) will differ from US Dolch but would be identical to DE Dolch in the upcoming groupbuy. Since it is all made on same tooling and equipment as original it's a re-run not a replica.
To me replica is something like my Chery style dyesubs I do. It has nothing to do with the original, it only appears to be similar.

Cool, thanks for answering my newbie questions. Can you clarify what the difference between US dolch and DE dolch is? Also, do you plan on having modifiers for winkey keyboards when you do the groupbuy?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 02 May 2014, 15:18:59
I'll just post photo as it is easy to see difference in modifiers and math legends. Keys do not have text shift, tab, backspace etc on, and with proper multiply and divide.
(https://i.imgur.com/eAY8J.jpg)

Yes there will be keys for standard 104/105 layout keyboard with Windows key.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:08:16
Will it be possible to also add a short right shift to the set like on an original Dolch?

It will satisfy all the KBT Pure owners :) There aren't enough sets with that key.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:29:27
Key selection will probably be this:
[attachimg=1]

I didn't make the colors right, so disregard that.
Title: Re: What keycap set is this?
Post by: padath on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:12:47
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 02 May 2014, 16:29:27
Key selection will probably be this:

So pleased that you are planning to keep the ISO/UK layout and legends on there (even if some of the legends are doubled-up with the ANSI legends).  :thumb: