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Title: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:35:30
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Pic for the whole keyboard
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57948.msg1344671#msg1344671



Hi,   its me again.

I have had a thought of linking up the chinese market with the world before
and after a chat with berserkfan weeks ago, I am even more confident that this is gonna work.
It was about a plan to start up GB one in a short period about the chinese products that are cheap and fun

And this is the very first project that I have been working on since last month,
a value-edition DIY keyboard bundle that includes everything you need for a working keyboard other than keycap.

this is a bundle that may suit your need if you'd like to try and build your customized keyboard but you don't know where(or too lazy) to get everything, in a cheaper price
And its also an Aluminium Housing Keyboard that meets its price

I did not open any GB nor IC before as I would like to gather more information and samples before i start it, to show that I am kind of prepared before starting an IC
yet I am introducing this now because I found that ppl actually feel interested about this board :)
I would try not to let this project fail due to diluted orders 

As I have said      this bundle would include nearly everything that u originally might have to source from different places
I grouped all of them up from the China market and put them all in.
By the mean time, I would also like to introduce the products from china to you guys. There are these many options to build a board when sourcing china!
And if you guys would like, we can hold more GBs to get these with cheaper price

With a large batch, it comes with a pretty decent price!
The following are included

1.)Red Scarf II GH-DT version (Named : Red Scarf II ISO)
More
In short, a GH and DT only version of Red Scarf II  with addition of an ISO layout to the PCB
So it is capable of doing all the things it can do now + ISO layout ( a more complete /versatile version)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57424.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57976.0
77 key layout ,Runs Atmel 32U4, Fully programmable , full led support with 3 levels of light and a breathing mode
and its good with both PCB mounted and Plate mounted switches

The numpad part can be dislocated, to form a 60% keyboard.   
But it still can be soldered back to form a whole 77.

All IC and SMD parts are presoldered, the only soldering work need to do is to solder the switches and LED to the PCB!


The Red Scarf 2 is actually designed for the chinese market, it does not contain an ISO layout as most chinese uses standard ANSI layout

This is kind of the first custom keyboard with new layout that is designed originally in china, and is also for sale in the market
I think this is a pretty good product which is attractive with its layout and at the same time, do not touches the Copyright issue

As i have actually been playing keyboard for quite a long period of time in china, and 悬壶济世 is one of my very good friend
I asked him to provide me an ISO version of the 77 (red scarf 2) and asked for more anodizing options (more colours, as theres only 3 colours in china)
And he is nice enough to promise that this particular version will be exclusive for GH and DT

But as he is doing his GB in China, he said he will handle orders from us at late may or early June
but i will be getting some colour platesas as sample of the anodized aluminium soon!

(http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/bed1d077gw1efptlvgvngj20vy0biq5f.jpg)


2.)Aluminium Housing + MKC legs
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[attach=2]


An Aluminium Housing (semi aluminium-housing to be precise) that comes in 3 parts

Top :  3mm Anodized  Aluminium
Middle : 12mm acrylic
Bottom : 3mm Anodized  Aluminium


Footings : MKC Metal Feets

For Chinese version, there will only be three anodizing colour : Red, Black and original Silver
For the GH-DT version (Red Scarf II ISO), we are gonna have more anodizing options
Samples will be sent to me very soon and i will update you guys ASAP

(http://gd4.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/T1IxaRFQpbXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg_460x460.jpg_.webp)
(http://gd1.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i1/T17dPpFA0dXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg_460x460.jpg_.webp)


3.) Anodized Aluminium Plates
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1.5mm Anodized Aluminium Plates, similar to the case, originally with only 3 anodizing option.
And we have more options coming up soon that is exclusively for the GB in GH and DT

The plate will be ISO || ANSI compatible, but the 1800 and winkey|winkeyless layout will be seperated into two style
(http://img04.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i4/657078890/T2Nq_SXH0aXXXXXXXX-657078890.jpg)

This is how the plate looks like at the ISO || ANSI compatible part
[attach=1]


4.) 100 Plate Mounted Black Swithces
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I have only sourced black swithces atm, I will keep on trying to get more options


5.) Stablizers
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The brand new stabalizers are product from the Hammer, which u may have heard of his 60% case and plates
It comes with black wire in 7 2x , 1 6.25x  and 1 7x stablizer which can fit any layout you like!



(http://gd3.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/T1pNyDFK8dXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg_460x460.jpg_.webp)


6.) Switch Stickers
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switch stickers designed and manufactured by hc3277738
they are made of PET or PVC, with varies kinds of colours which can be chosen in the bundle!
From my experience, PVC are more rigid and sticks better


(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/588074550/T2hdUiXytaXXXXXXXX-588074550.jpg)


7.)Lindy Cable
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Quality Cable!
Lindy Cable are very popular in china, mainly because of the style added to your board with its coiled cable
But as i know, ppl may need a longer cable rather than the 0.5m -ish coiled cable
therefore i have also sourced for options like 1m and 2m straight cables from lindy
(http://gd1.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i1/T1fnp7FJtaXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg_460x460.jpg_.webp)


8.) LED
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Very cheap in china, I will likely be ordering 2x3x4 LED
as normal 3mm LED may be too high and top cherry profile keycaps
though 3mm has more colour options, i think 2x3x4 LED are easily if its do no have much experience in this
4-6 colours will be available, eg Green, Red, Blue, White, Orange, Yellow


(http://i04.c.aliimg.com/img/product/79/59/06/79590641.310x310.jpg)


With the above bundle, what u need next is a set of keycaps that you would love to be on this set


This bundle will come at price around 150-200 USD + shipping and paypal fee, depending on the amount of orders we have
Accepts Seperate orders from the bundle (like  i only want item 1 2 3)


for shipping fee, you can take reference of the following price list
http://www.hongkongpost.hk/eng/postage/overseas/parcel/air/index.htm

As my taihao gb may arrive in similar time, i think its better for me to ship both this bundle and the keycap together if some of you ordered them both


This GB will start once i got the samples, (hopefully late may - early June(turbo on, asking 悬壶济世 to speed our progress up )to make sure everyone knows what they would get and for me to confirm everythings going according to the plan


Options of buying above item separately will be provided



Since the last IC , which is the Taihao GB, there are quite a lot of ppl judging me by the experience and period of time that i have join the community
I think the best way to prove myself is to work hard on every GB i start, and make sure everything's fine.

Sourcing the above is not an easy task for a beginner, which i hope somehow gives confident to you guys that im not that green
I have actually been playing keyboard in China for quite a long time and would like to provide more options to the community
and at the same time, to show u guys that there are decent products developed in china and hopefully in HK in the future!

Please feel free to show ur interest or ask question below!
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:37:20
I'd be interested for ANSI :O but this is nice for ISO users.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:39:46
I'd be interested for ANSI :O but this is nice for ISO users.

it supports both ISO and ANSI :)

i asked him to add ISO layout to the PCB

one of the beauty of this pcb is that you can use cheap 1800 doubleshots on it :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:53:12
Possibly interested in ANSI.  When will you have pictures of the cases?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:58:21
Possibly interested in ANSI.  When will you have pictures of the cases?

As 悬壶济世 have not even get the case himself.......

I will use the picture he take when he got his sample, to show you guys how the case looks like
(though his photography skills s___)

it is pretty much a 3 layers case, with a 12mm acrylic between 3mm anodized aluminium on top and bottom of it
MKC feet are needed or there will be two big holes at the bottom part of the case
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.hlC7TD&id=37977513691
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: pasph on Tue, 06 May 2014, 18:03:38
Interested in ISO
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 06 May 2014, 18:10:06
悬壶济世 FTW.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 May 2014, 18:16:33
I'm down

that price is pretty good, too
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 18:23:11
悬壶济世 FTW.

Classic 悬壶济世.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 06 May 2014, 19:42:31
Interested...
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: minho on Tue, 06 May 2014, 20:03:37
Super interested/excited ;D

Thanks Harry! 加油 and stuff woot :p
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle - Red Scarf II ISO version
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 21:30:38
I'd really like the combination provided here but I need ANSI.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 06 May 2014, 21:33:44
sorry for my misleading title

The PCB in the IC is actually capable of doing both ISO and ANSI
18xx, winkey, winkeyless
its just that   the title of the PCB will be "Red Scarf II ISO",  addition of ISO to the board :)

so ANSI ppl has no worries

Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 06 May 2014, 22:04:24
I know you mentioned combining shipping for folks who do this and your Tai Hao buy but I think it might be better to do one group buy at a time. All inclusive group buys like this one can get fatally popular. Poor Sprit is still trying to sort out his entire round one half a year later. Make your Tai Hao buy ultra successful and use it to learn lessons and make mistakes with items of considerably smaller value than an entire keyboard kit. That would be my recommendation anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 22:15:03
I know you mentioned combining shipping for folks who do this and your Tai Hao buy but I think it might be better to do one group buy at a time. All inclusive group buys like this one can get fatally popular. Poor Sprit is still trying to sort out his entire round one half a year later. Make your Tai Hao buy ultra successful and use it to learn lessons and make mistakes with items of considerably smaller value than an entire keyboard kit. That would be my recommendation anyway.

^^ much wisdom.

OP I'm sure you mean very well and am glad to see people wanting to get us things that might normally be hard to get however you should take it slow and not get in over your head. Because even though your new and unknown some people will still throw money at you, that puts you in a dangerous spot. We don't need more failed buys around here.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 06 May 2014, 22:19:34
no worries :)

i have back ups with me  ;)

At the stuffs comes in the designated packings.
We wouldn't have to count too much of them

It is too risky and too greedy to do two gbs alone

I'm not alone doing all these:)
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 22:25:34
sorry for my misleading title

The PCB in the IC is actually capable of doing both ISO and ANSI
18xx, winkey, winkeyless
its just that   the title of the PCB will be "Red Scarf II ISO",  addition of ISO to the board :)

so ANSI ppl has no worries

Good to hear, I'll stay tuned in here and the Qtan / Taobao thread.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: ebacho on Tue, 06 May 2014, 22:48:41
Interested in ANSI.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: minho on Tue, 06 May 2014, 23:11:30
Interested in ANSI.

Just FYI, it's all the same - he called it the Red Scarf 77 ISO because the regular edition is only ANSI compatible, while this special edition is compatible with both layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Harrowed on Wed, 07 May 2014, 04:57:51
Very interested in red scarf ;) Now, where do I get all the money I need for your group buys...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 07 May 2014, 08:13:23
Interested in ANSI. <3
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: feizor on Wed, 07 May 2014, 08:41:18
Also interested. Bringing us all the good stuff Harry :)
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:03:09
thinking to put this as one of the giveaway in the GB...

A beta sample from the designer
Good enough to be a stock product
Cherry MX compatible capacitor board
you cannot buy this anywhere atm

i think some of you may feel interested about it

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/IMG_4473.jpg)

More
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/IMG_4482.jpg)

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/IMG_4480.jpg)

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/IMG_4491.jpg)

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/IMG_4504.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:14:59
So the Universal 77-key plate will look something like this, correct?

(http://i.imgur.com/XVvGN0n.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: rsheldiii on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:23:38
noob here so forgive me if this is dumb, I was just wondering, is the numpad hot swappable? or does it have to start attached to the board? I've been looking for something unique for a first board project and I think a 60% with a breakaway numpad is damn well unique enough
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:26:19
So the Universal 77-key plate will look something like this, correct?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XVvGN0n.png)


That appears to match very closely to the pictures in the OP.  Impressive!
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:27:35
So the Universal 77-key plate will look something like this, correct?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XVvGN0n.png)


yes

i am not sure about the bottom left part though, at the left Ctrl and alt
悬壶济世 planned to put two 1.5x ctrl alt beside the spacebar.
making it similar to the 1838
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:28:22
So basically this is a GH60 with an attached GHPad?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 May 2014, 10:32:31
So basically this is a GH60 with an attached GHPad?

That's exactly what it is, Ray.



i am not sure about the bottom left part though, at the left Ctrl and alt
悬壶济世 planned to put two 1.5x ctrl alt beside the spacebar.
making it similar to the 1838

You're right, I forgot to add the 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1 layout.


This is better:

(http://i.imgur.com/WOswHMI.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:01:30
So basically this is a GH60 with an attached GHPad?

That's exactly what it is, Ray.



i am not sure about the bottom left part though, at the left Ctrl and alt
悬壶济世 planned to put two 1.5x ctrl alt beside the spacebar.
making it similar to the 1838

You're right, I forgot to add the 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1 layout.


This is better:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WOswHMI.png)

iso 1.25 shift
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:02:26
iso 1.25 shift

It's there. :)


Of course, I can't be sure my stabilizer holes are pointed the right direction, or are 180-degrees rotated, without seeing the actual PCB with stabilizer holes drilled.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:04:03
noob here so forgive me if this is dumb, I was just wondering, is the numpad hot swappable? or does it have to start attached to the board? I've been looking for something unique for a first board project and I think a 60% with a breakaway numpad is damn well unique enough


The numpad can only be attached at the right hand side of the 60%
the connection can also be soldered back later on .

The numpad must be attached to the board to be used as it does not have a I/O port
The 60% part can still be used if u have cut away the numpad part



So basically this is a GH60 with an attached GHPad?

That's exactly what it is, Ray.


Sorry for letting you guys to think like so.

As far as i know, the PCB has difference in a few parts
As the numpad is added, it gives some new layout like 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1  bottom row
also, the board is compatible with the two size of IC

i am not a pro to board designing but i will ask him to clarify if theres need of it

i dont mean to take advantage of the GH60 and GH pad design , or any kind of disrespect to the authors
if there are conflict of interest or so
I am willing to stop this project immediately
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:09:30
Sorry for letting you guys to think like so.

As far as i know, the PCB has difference in a few parts
As the numpad is added, it gives some new layout like 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1  bottom row
also, the board is compatible with the two size of IC

i dont mean to take advantage of the GH60 and GH pad or any kind of disrespectful
if there are conflict of interest or so
I am willing to stop this project immediately

Yes, I'm positive there are differences in the PCB. It's not a direct copy of the design, but a nice modification by 悬壶济世. I'm not offended, and I think this has a place in the community. He took two open source designs, combined them, and made some changes, such as the LED backlighting modes, controller ICs, etc.

I wouldn't want you guys to stop doing this project at all. On the contrary, please proceed when ready. This will have demand in the market, and if you can get them completed in a short amount of time, so much the better.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: rsheldiii on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:22:34
noob here so forgive me if this is dumb, I was just wondering, is the numpad hot swappable? or does it have to start attached to the board? I've been looking for something unique for a first board project and I think a 60% with a breakaway numpad is damn well unique enough

The numpad can only be attached at the right hand side of the 60%
the connection can also be soldered back later on .

The numpad must be attached to the board to be used as it does not have a I/O port
The 60% part can still be used if u have cut away the numpad part


right, maybe my question is silly, but I was planning on wiring the connections so that I could reattach the numpad with a wire when I wanted to, and design my own cases for both pieces. You have through-holes on both sides of the break so it wouldn't be too hard, but I'm not an electrical guy, so I wasn't sure if that would mess something up

thanks for all your hard work on this by the way
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:27:44
So basically this is a GH60 with an attached GHPad?

That's exactly what it is, Ray.


Sorry for letting you guys to think like so.

As far as i know, the PCB has difference in a few parts
As the numpad is added, it gives some new layout like 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1  bottom row
also, the board is compatible with the two size of IC

i am not a pro to board designing but i will ask him to clarify if theres need of it

i dont mean to take advantage of the GH60 and GH pad design , or any kind of disrespect to the authors
if there are conflict of interest or so
I am willing to stop this project immediately

Don't worry my friend. JD said that just to make it easier to understand what this project is. He's not saying this project is a copy of what's already there. And of course 悬壶济世 won't do that anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:35:43
Sorry for letting you guys to think like so.

As far as i know, the PCB has difference in a few parts
As the numpad is added, it gives some new layout like 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1  bottom row
also, the board is compatible with the two size of IC

i dont mean to take advantage of the GH60 and GH pad or any kind of disrespectful
if there are conflict of interest or so
I am willing to stop this project immediately

Yes, I'm positive there are differences in the PCB. It's not a direct copy of the design, but a nice modification by 悬壶济世. I'm not offended, and I think this has a place in the community. He took two open source designs, combined them, and made some changes, such as the LED backlighting modes, controller ICs, etc.

I wouldn't want you guys to stop doing this project at all. On the contrary, please proceed when ready. This will have demand in the market, and if you can get them completed in a short amount of time, so much the better.

 :p phew   pressure released

I think i can actually start this GB even earlier than the Taihao im having,
because in this GB, i have better communications with all the parties and most of them are stock product.
it only takes 2-3 days to come to play place and i can start sorting them
i can start collecting orders that are similar to

The pcb and housing would take around 1 month though, but sorting these large component shouldnt be a difficult task

It feels good to contribute to the community and to be be recognized
i have been planning this with my fd
thinking of what product to be included and try to lower the cost as much as possible
calculating risks and expenses
if MOQ are enough, i can also order some latest project from hc3277738 and include them in every order

he is making some embossed led keycaps which looks really nice
and its fully customizable , applicable in spacebar, R1-R4  row a - row e
More
(http://puu.sh/8yrEK)
(http://puu.sh/8yrEp)
(http://puu.sh/8yrFG)
(http://puu.sh/8yrGl)
(http://puu.sh/8yrEb)

its better than anything as long as you guys like it!
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:38:48

Don't worry my friend. JD said that just to make it easier to understand what this project is. He's not saying this project is a copy of what's already there. And of course 悬壶济世 won't do that anyway.

caomu....in the past few days, i couldnt sleep becuz i was so excited about adding different great stuffs from china to this bundle

haha   this is a really fun project and i love it

Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:49:06
1.)Red Scarf II GH-DT version (Named : Red Scarf II ISO)
2.)Aluminium Housing + MKC legs
3.) Anodized Aluminium Plates

Will it be possible to buy only these parts?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:50:56
1.)Red Scarf II GH-DT version (Named : Red Scarf II ISO)
2.)Aluminium Housing + MKC legs
3.) Anodized Aluminium Plates

Will it be possible to buy only these parts?

yes

will accept seperated orders in the GB
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: sublime on Wed, 07 May 2014, 22:34:54
Interested in this for sure  :thumb: However I may only order only certain parts of the order, ie PCB, plate, and case
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 07 May 2014, 22:38:29
any hard anodizing options?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 22:42:21
any hard anodizing options?

its possible

but the price will not be as cheap as now it is
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 07 May 2014, 22:44:20
any hard anodizing options?

its possible

but the price will not be as cheap as now it is

I don't mind. Its hard finding hard anodized cases
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 07 May 2014, 22:57:48
any hard anodizing options?

its possible

but the price will not be as cheap as now it is

I don't mind. Its hard finding hard anodized cases

ok :thumb:

i will see if i can make this happen

Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: mashby on Thu, 08 May 2014, 12:12:44
1.)Red Scarf II GH-DT version (Named : Red Scarf II ISO)
2.)Aluminium Housing + MKC legs
3.) Anodized Aluminium Plates

Will it be possible to buy only these parts?

yes

will accept seperated orders in the GB

Fantastic. If the PCB is available by itself, then I'm definitely going to buy one.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 08 May 2014, 17:46:45
What is the matrix on the numeric keypad? Could I cut off a column or two from the right to make a semi-TKL and it would still work?
I have been planning such a keyboard for a while, and this might be perfect for it, I think. I already have everything but the PCB to put it together, having originally planned to hard-wire it.

ps. If this is a "GH-DT Version", then post about it on DT already! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 08 May 2014, 19:15:28
I am not familiar with the 1800 layout, but the idea of having most of a full keyboard in a fraction of the space is really attractive.

What seems to be missing though are three modifiers on the bottom left row as this is a win keyless?

There was mention of a win keyless and winkey variant of the 1800. I am trying to work out what kind of layout it would involve?

1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1 - normal 1800?

1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1.5-1.5-1-1-1-1-1-1 - for a winkey 1800?

One way to add an extra modifier on the bottom, but obviously requires a mis-match in size, and a wide plate hole. But at least it preserves the standard 6.25 spacebar.

Otherwise, a collection of 1 units on the bottom right gives an extra winkey, but a busier look

1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 08 May 2014, 19:36:15
What you suggested is only possible with an universal plate, which is still being designed. The possible layouts right now is what you see in OP.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:27:31
is the controller reprogramble?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 08 May 2014, 22:15:02
is the controller reprogramble?

yes it is

Will provide more info bout the GUI programming in gb

What you suggested is only possible with an universal plate, which is still being designed. The possible layouts right now is what you see in OP.

actually, i have suggested the plate that JD has draw early in this post to 悬壶济世
and i think we are gonna have a universal plate in our GB

Big thanks to JD!
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 09 May 2014, 06:22:24
Interested in an ISO version for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 09 May 2014, 14:38:28
If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: clongetty on Fri, 09 May 2014, 15:15:41
Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sat, 10 May 2014, 01:06:00
Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.


If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 10 May 2014, 06:49:48
u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board
I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good. :)
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sat, 10 May 2014, 06:56:36
u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board
I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good. :)
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: rosslerosa on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:54:52
u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board
I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good. :)
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?
From looking at TaoBao I see that they offer a 60% case and plate if you just wanted the numpad removed. Hope that helps. I'm also planning on buying this but not sure if I should wait for group buy or buy the parts myself after seeing this post.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 12 May 2014, 04:45:04
Whoa, nice layout! Can't wait to get one of these!!!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: feizor on Mon, 12 May 2014, 06:37:28
u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board
I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good. :)
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?
From looking at TaoBao I see that they offer a 60% case and plate if you just wanted the numpad removed. Hope that helps. I'm also planning on buying this but not sure if I should wait for group buy or buy the parts myself after seeing this post.

Could you please post a link to the tao bao ad for the 60% case and plate? I can't see it anywhere but my Chinese ain't great.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:19:57
Def interested  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: bianco on Mon, 12 May 2014, 08:02:30
interesting. is there a version with the full esc/function row on top?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:20:43
interesting. is there a version with the full esc/function row on top?

i would suggest u to take a look at duck lightsaver
to me, its literally what u are talking about :)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: bianco on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:34:18
interesting. is there a version with the full esc/function row on top?

i would suggest u to take a look at duck lightsaver
to me, its literally what u are talking about :)

yup, that's exactly what i wanted.
sadly, it was filled up before i could join in.
looking for a similar option
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:06:02
I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning.
Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?
No, there wouldn't be any case available for 16,17,18 wide keyboards. The beauty with the Poker case design though is that it is very simple: a one-piece tray with some spacers and a hole for the USB port, and a plate is optional.
Building a Poker case is therefore not very difficult. Several home-made Poker cases have been shown on GH. I could probably whip one up from ABS plastic within half an hour + some time for the solvent-adhesive to evaporate.

Yet another PCB design mod that would help though, would be to elongate the mounting holes in the keypad area so that there is some left when the column to the right has been cut off.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:46:32
I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning.
Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?
No, there wouldn't be any case available for 16,17,18 wide keyboards. The beauty with the Poker case design though is that it is very simple: a one-piece tray with some spacers and a hole for the USB port, and a plate is optional.
Building a Poker case is therefore not very difficult. Several home-made Poker cases have been shown on GH. I could probably whip one up from ABS plastic within half an hour + some time for the solvent-adhesive to evaporate.

Yet another PCB design mod that would help though, would be to elongate the mounting holes in the keypad area so that there is some left when the column to the right has been cut off.

i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him

i have once asked him to try to make alps available on this PCB,
Or to add some print onto the PCB,
but there are too little space for us to do so.

I think there are difficulties in doing this but i will try to ask him if this is  feasible.

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: rosslerosa on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:12:50
u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board
I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good. :)
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?
From looking at TaoBao I see that they offer a 60% case and plate if you just wanted the numpad removed. Hope that helps. I'm also planning on buying this but not sure if I should wait for group buy or buy the parts myself after seeing this post.

Could you please post a link to the tao bao ad for the 60% case and plate? I can't see it anywhere but my Chinese ain't great.
Here is the link for the 60% case, for 60% the pcb is just cut or snapped off
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.iCB8CI&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=38804678406&pvid=fa741bb0-1b34-43c4-b045-f509f319580f
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: feizor on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:19:53
Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:01:48
i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him
Awesome. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 15 May 2014, 17:43:41
i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him
Awesome. Thanks!

some pretty big improvement had made to the PCB and the Case!

Hopefully i can have a sample or at least a picture of it by the begining of next week
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: feizor on Thu, 15 May 2014, 18:11:58
i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him
Awesome. Thanks!

some pretty big improvement had made to the PCB and the Case!

Hopefully i can have a sample or at least a picture of it by the begining of next week

Can't wait, I'm definitely in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: ChillyVanilly on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:09:51
In, but why not have the arrow keys in the 10 key cluster like a Model F? 1.25s in R1 and a regular size right shift would make a lot of caps sets immediately compatible.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: feizor on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:31:09
In, but why not have the arrow keys in the 10 key cluster like a Model F? 1.25s in R1 and a regular size right shift would make a lot of caps sets immediately compatible.

I believe that configuration is available, just get the winkey plate.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: bcg on Wed, 21 May 2014, 14:05:00
Interested
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 21 May 2014, 23:17:00
Interested, but I don't need switches!  Too many already
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 21 May 2014, 23:20:27
Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.


If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

Any update bout anodizing?
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 22 May 2014, 11:11:11
Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.


If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

Any update bout anodizing?

Design of pcb and case was changed.
And designers hdd crashed
I asked him and he said things should be done this week, samples to show u guys

 Even Chinese side gb is stopped
Just finished my finals yesterday and I will start updating all threads of mine after collecting info
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: two4teezee on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:52:03
I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Value-Edition DIY keyboard Bundle
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sun, 25 May 2014, 02:05:52

Any update bout anodizing?

yo pacifist,
sadly, the factory does not have option of hard anodizing.
If hard anodizing is wanted, i might have to try seek for other company in hk / china for re-anodizing

other anodizing options sample have arrived and are ready to be shipped to me
i will ask him to send them to me tmr or day after tmr
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: feizor on Sun, 25 May 2014, 02:55:36
Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.


If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

Any update bout anodizing?

Design of pcb and case was changed.
And designers hdd crashed
I asked him and he said things should be done this week, samples to show u guys

 Even Chinese side gb is stopped
Just finished my finals yesterday and I will start updating all threads of mine after collecting info

Hope you did OK in your exams. How time for fun keyboard stuff!

Really looking forward to this GB!

Are you able to get cherry mx clear switches? And 62g springs?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 25 May 2014, 09:44:21
Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sun, 25 May 2014, 09:46:32
Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition}
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 25 May 2014, 09:49:05
Thanks for the ultra fast reply ;)

Now it's a must have for me!

Would it be possible to bundle this with the Tai Hao keycaps from your other GB to save some shipping costs?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: feizor on Mon, 26 May 2014, 06:46:15
Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)


Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 26 May 2014, 12:13:25
Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)


Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

i can try to include them

some more photo of the 77 keyboard!

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: minho on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:19:41
Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)


Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

i can try to include them

some more photo of the 77 keyboard!

Damn that looks amazing  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:33:43
to be honest,
after several modification of the PCB and the case, i would say this keyboard can stand toe-to-toe against any other DIY keyboard in the market.

I doubt saying its a "value edition " item is the right thing to do, as it is a keyboard that has its own specialty.

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: minho on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:44:44
to be honest,
after several modification of the PCB and the case, i would say this keyboard can stand toe-to-toe against any other DIY keyboard in the market.

I doubt saying its a "value edition " item is the right thing to do, as it is a keyboard that has its own specialty.

Yea when I hear "value edition" I kind of imagined something cheaper, but this looks amazing - given the choice between this and other customs, this is a pretty competitive choice (and even more so considering the price)  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: Doesntknowwhattosay on Mon, 26 May 2014, 15:52:53
 :eek: After seeing these pics I am pretty convinced. Have to wait for eltons GB for the viper and eagle before I decide but I'm definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: yuiop on Mon, 26 May 2014, 16:26:52
I'd like to declare my interest.  Probably for 1~2 sets of pcb, plate, case combo.
I like the fact it has aluminum top and bottom plates, pretty thick too. 
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: feizor on Mon, 26 May 2014, 16:39:09
Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)


Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

i can try to include them

some more photo of the 77 keyboard!



The keyboard in the pictures, is that without a plate? I can't see the plate layer. But it looks fantastic! Love the color matched screws. Very classy. I hope the final product will be such good quality.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:02:49
U don't usually see the plate as it's under the keycaps 
But u can review another pic I post and u can see how the plate looks
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:03:31
how good is the reprogramablilty?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:11:51
how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

Process is of designing ur keymap is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep with the keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://keyboard-layout-editor.com) and enjoyclick.org/tkg# (http://enjoyclick.org/tkg#) combo

i will upload the dfu-reflasher in the gb for easier firmware flashing
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:13:35
how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

While process is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep through keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://keyboard-layout-editor.com) and enjoyclick.org/tkg# (http://enjoyclick.org/tkg#)

how many layers are there if I do the hex file flash? I know metalliqaz gets 10 with his hex file maker
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:17:39
how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

While process is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep through keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://keyboard-layout-editor.com) and enjoyclick.org/tkg# (http://enjoyclick.org/tkg#)

how many layers are there if I do the hex file flash? I know metalliqaz gets 10 with his hex file maker

if u are generating ur .EEP via enjoyclick.org/tkg#
there are in total 8 layers for you to use
but some of the fn keys have to be used for dedicated LED config

i usually use 3 fn keys for led config, so i have at most 5 layers to program
so if u have only one LED mode toggle, u can have 7 layers
if u dont give a _ about led, u can have all 8 layers for ur own use

for further details, i can ask kai1103 for more info
he can reply ur answer much clearer
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Housing+Plate look)
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:18:28
how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

While process is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep through keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://keyboard-layout-editor.com) and enjoyclick.org/tkg# (http://enjoyclick.org/tkg#)

how many layers are there if I do the hex file flash? I know metalliqaz gets 10 with his hex file maker

if u are generation ur .EEP through enjoyclick.org/tkg#
there are in total 8 layers for you to use
but some of the fn keys have to be used for dedicated LED config

i usually use 3 fn keys for led config, so i have at most 5 layers to program
so if u have only one LED mode toggle, u can have 7 layers
if u dont give a _ about led, u can have all 8 layers for ur own use

That's plenty, thanks for the info
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: feizor on Tue, 27 May 2014, 16:28:36
I think the case would look even nicer using 1x12mm acrylic layer instead of 3 x 4mm layers.

As per this tao bao add:
http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=38804482367&spm=0.0.0.0&rn=8L78NCOB2-XzfRe6hkYAX1IkyU5B-XVW2VfO-aCNZ&sid=4a141a341016cca2de531d6e672c3a64&abtest=6&bagtype=
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 27 May 2014, 16:30:15
I think the case would look even nicer using 1x12mm acrylic layer instead of 3 x 4mm layers.

As per this tao bao add:
http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=38804482367&spm=0.0.0.0&rn=8L78NCOB2-XzfRe6hkYAX1IkyU5B-XVW2VfO-aCNZ&sid=4a141a341016cca2de531d6e672c3a64&abtest=6&bagtype=

But where to find a shop that will supply the 12mm acrylic? The thickest I've found at a cutter (to be honest, I haven't looked around that much) was 9mm.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 28 May 2014, 09:38:19
I think the case would look even nicer using 1x12mm acrylic layer instead of 3 x 4mm layers.

As per this tao bao add:
http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=38804482367&spm=0.0.0.0&rn=8L78NCOB2-XzfRe6hkYAX1IkyU5B-XVW2VfO-aCNZ&sid=4a141a341016cca2de531d6e672c3a64&abtest=6&bagtype=

But where to find a shop that will supply the 12mm acrylic? The thickest I've found at a cutter (to be honest, I haven't looked around that much) was 9mm.

yes  you are correct   12mm is rare..

and actually, after the modification, the thickness of acrylic needed is 15mm in order to cover the switches

so the design now is 3x 5mm acrylics

BTW

Blue and Gold anodizing option is added!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: rosslerosa on Wed, 28 May 2014, 14:07:16
I really can't wait for the group buy! I have been holding off and trying to not buy from TaoBao through agent in hopes that this group buy will be better!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 28 May 2014, 22:15:58
I really can't wait for the group buy! I have been holding off and trying to not buy from TaoBao through agent in hopes that this group buy will be better!

we have a lot of improvement from the one in taobao

tried to perfect this board to show that there are also fine product in china

you will no be disappointed to join this GB later :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 28 May 2014, 23:29:34
I really can't wait for the group buy! I have been holding off and trying to not buy from TaoBao through agent in hopes that this group buy will be better!

we have a lot of improvement from the one in taobao

tried to perfect this board to show that there are also fine product in china

you will no be disappointed to join this GB later :thumb:

Of course there are good products from China. OMG...
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 28 May 2014, 23:40:36
I really can't wait for the group buy! I have been holding off and trying to not buy from TaoBao through agent in hopes that this group buy will be better!

we have a lot of improvement from the one in taobao

tried to perfect this board to show that there are also fine product in china

you will no be disappointed to join this GB later :thumb:

Of course there are good products from China. OMG...

and you know very well about this :p
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: feizor on Fri, 30 May 2014, 18:22:01
Hey Harry

Can you please confirm whether the silver color for the case and the plate are anodised silver or just raw aluminium? And whether the nuts for the case will be color matched?

I noticed that in your first photo the hex nuts were silver and in other photos they are black?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sat, 31 May 2014, 09:24:57
Hey Harry

Can you please confirm whether the silver color for the case and the plate are anodised silver or just raw aluminium? And whether the nuts for the case will be color matched?

I noticed that in your first photo the hex nuts were silver and in other photos they are black?

Thanks!

just asked

its a sanded aluminium,     raw colour of it
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: feizor on Sat, 31 May 2014, 09:54:53
Hey Harry

Can you please confirm whether the silver color for the case and the plate are anodised silver or just raw aluminium? And whether the nuts for the case will be color matched?

I noticed that in your first photo the hex nuts were silver and in other photos they are black?

Thanks!

just asked

its a sanded aluminium,     raw colour of it

Ah ok, cool thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: RESPRiT on Sat, 31 May 2014, 13:42:47
This looks really great Harry!

Maybe we can start having Chinese customs now :D
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: genkidama on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:57:41
How much would one keyboard weigh if you used the whole bundle to put a mech together?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: nereme on Sun, 01 June 2014, 15:29:13
Deffinately might be interested in all this, need to wait and see the final price for the full bundle
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 June 2014, 15:48:28
It looks cool, but it appears to take a lot of special keys, doesn't it?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: ebacho on Sun, 01 June 2014, 16:06:16
It looks cool, but it appears to take a lot of special keys, doesn't it?

1.75x RShift, 1x numpad 0, 1.5x mods, and stepped caps are special keys now?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 01 June 2014, 18:52:16
It looks cool, but it appears to take a lot of special keys, doesn't it?
You haven't seen the options. ;)

It supports 2.75u or 1.75u right Shift, 1.25u or 1.5u bottom-row modifiers, 7u, 6.25u or 6u Space bar,  1×1u or 1×2u numpad-+, 1u or 2u numpad-0, 1u or 2u Backspace, ISO or ANSI Return, if 1.5 mods you can choose between 1 or 2 1u keys between right Alt and Ctrl, you can have two 1u keys instead of a 1×2 numpad-Enter.

Click on the first "More" link in the first post to see some of the options for the bottom row. There is also more to see if you study pictures of the PCB carefully (links in the first post). Support for ISO Return key isn't there in the shots of the PCB, but we have been promised it for the revision that is going to be offered in this round.

This keyboard is like the GH60 + GHpad in one case, with all the layout options that it has ... plus the option of arrow-keys in the space in-between plus backlighting. And if all you wanted was a 60% keyboard with backlighting, you could order the PCB, easily cut away the numpad-portion and put that into a Poker-compatible case.
The controller is an ATmega32u4 - the same as in the Teensy and the GH60, plus a chip that helps with backlighting. I expect to be able to convert any of the open firmwares that exist out there to work with this board (without backlighting at least).

Edit: I discovered even more options that I hadn't listed above.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 02 June 2014, 02:27:20
It looks cool, but it appears to take a lot of special keys, doesn't it?
You haven't seen the options. ;)

It supports 2.75u or 1.75u right Shift, 1.25u or 1.5u bottom-row modifiers, 7u, 6.25u or 6u Space bar,  1×1u or 1×2u numpad-+, 1u or 2u numpad-0, 1u or 2u Backspace, ISO or ANSI Return, if 1.5 mods you can choose between 1 or 2 1u keys between right Alt and Ctrl, you can have two 1u keys instead of a 1×2 numpad-Enter.

Click on the first "More" link in the first post to see some of the options for the bottom row. There is also more to see if you study pictures of the PCB carefully (links in the first post). Support for ISO Return key isn't there in the shots of the PCB, but we have been promised it for the revision that is going to be offered in this round.

This keyboard is like the GH60 + GHpad in one case, with all the layout options that it has ... plus the option of arrow-keys in the space in-between plus backlighting. And if all you wanted was a 60% keyboard with backlighting, you could order the PCB, easily cut away the numpad-portion and put that into a Poker-compatible case.
The controller is an ATmega32u4 - the same as in the Teensy and the GH60, plus a chip that helps with backlighting. I expect to be able to convert any of the open firmwares that exist out there to work with this board (without backlighting at least).

Edit: I discovered even more options that I hadn't listed above.  :p

yes u are correct fidecanor :thumb:

and thx for your detail explaination
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: feizor on Tue, 03 June 2014, 07:46:28
Is there much difference in feel between 1.75u right shift without stabilizer and a 2.75u stabilized right shift? I'm trying to decide on the ideal layout for me.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:40:31
Is there much difference in feel between 1.75u right shift without stabilizer and a 2.75u stabilized right shift? I'm trying to decide on the ideal layout for me.

I think that it's rather subjective, like most things with mechs. Have you tried comparing how things feel on your own mech between something like the lshift and capslock?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 03 June 2014, 16:12:49
Ghost of Harry

Great! I haven't checked the IC threads for a long time and I see you have made so much awesome progress! I'm delighted to see so much potential.

That said, may I suggest you go easy on your option 4, the black switches? I think most geekhackers have little difficulty in getting their own switches. Blacks aren't that popular and the extra weight shipping from China is usually unnecessary when they could get switches in their own countries.

If I remember correctly Cherry MX switches are getting hard to buy in China due to lack of supply. It might be better to just forego that option. Saves you some work too!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: RESPRiT on Tue, 03 June 2014, 23:23:54
Ghost of Harry

Great! I haven't checked the IC threads for a long time and I see you have made so much awesome progress! I'm delighted to see so much potential.

That said, may I suggest you go easy on your option 4, the black switches? I think most geekhackers have little difficulty in getting their own switches. Blacks aren't that popular and the extra weight shipping from China is usually unnecessary when they could get switches in their own countries.

If I remember correctly Cherry MX switches are getting hard to buy in China due to lack of supply. It might be better to just forego that option. Saves you some work too!

Agreed, if switches will slow things down or be troublesome in anyways, it's probably better to just let people get their own.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 04 June 2014, 03:28:56
Is there much difference in feel between 1.75u right shift without stabilizer and a 2.75u stabilized right shift? I'm trying to decide on the ideal layout for me.

I think that it's rather subjective, like most things with mechs. Have you tried comparing how things feel on your own mech between something like the lshift and capslock?

Good idea, I'll try the caplock.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 04 June 2014, 03:33:24
Ghost of Harry

Great! I haven't checked the IC threads for a long time and I see you have made so much awesome progress! I'm delighted to see so much potential.

That said, may I suggest you go easy on your option 4, the black switches? I think most geekhackers have little difficulty in getting their own switches. Blacks aren't that popular and the extra weight shipping from China is usually unnecessary when they could get switches in their own countries.

If I remember correctly Cherry MX switches are getting hard to buy in China due to lack of supply. It might be better to just forego that option. Saves you some work too!

The only other countries that supply switches are US and Germany AFAIK.

Maybe leave it as an option for people who don't have readily accessible suppliers of switches? As long as it doesn't cause delays for the people who don't want switches...
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 05 June 2014, 11:27:47
Just in case anybody here would love to program their board themselves, or wanna know more about how you can program your rs 77

just asked the firmware writer kairyu (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21199) from china, all his fireware are open source
you can find them below

firmware for the keyboard
https://github.com/kairyu/tmk_keyboard_custom/tree/redscarfII

GUI of the system
source code: https://github.com/kairyu/tkg

website to design ur keymap : http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com
** for you to design your layout, save you layout to get the link    or use the raw data below

website to generate eep: http://www.enjoyclick.org/tkg/#
**simply copy your saved link or raw data of your layout and copy to this website and u can get your eep file



i am a total noob to these program stuff
but kai reminds me to thank hasu (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3412), writer of tmk
who have provide the structure of open source tmk for kai to add some additional functions to it!
THX!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 05 June 2014, 16:12:20
That's awesome! Hasu's firmware is pretty well known, and is feature-rich. The addition of backlight support and remapping in a GUI is great.

By the way, will there be any support for bicolour LEDs? I am not talking about the entire keyboard like on Ducky's  prototypes, but about being able to change the colour on the Caps Lock key when it is active.

For myself, I think I will only light the numeric row when I press the Fn key. I'm a C programmer by trade, so I could modify the firmware myself. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 05 June 2014, 22:54:18
If we don't buy a case, what other case options would we have?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: minho on Thu, 05 June 2014, 22:55:28
Will this group buy be pushed back because of the extended deadline of the TaiHao groupbuy?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: RESPRiT on Thu, 05 June 2014, 23:08:44
Will this group buy be pushed back because of the extended deadline of the TaiHao groupbuy?

I'm pretty sure Harry doesn't want to run two GBs at once, so if TaiHao is going to take a bit longer, this one is probably going to as well.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:42:24
its ok, we can do this 2 together

The things stopping us now is that i would have to pay for the deposit for some of the item first, as there are MOQ




Also, i have helping hands besides. No worry for the workload.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:54:19
This kit is looking good and has a nice price. I hope it comes to life, and the leader makes a good work. I may be in for some parts of the offer. PCB, plate, and tray, switches only if brown or red are offered.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 June 2014, 09:17:25
It looks cool, but it appears to take a lot of special keys, doesn't it?
You haven't seen the options. ;)

It supports 2.75u or 1.75u right Shift, 1.25u or 1.5u bottom-row modifiers, 7u, 6.25u or 6u Space bar,  1×1u or 1×2u numpad-+, 1u or 2u numpad-0, 1u or 2u Backspace, ISO or ANSI Return, if 1.5 mods you can choose between 1 or 2 1u keys between right Alt and Ctrl, you can have two 1u keys instead of a 1×2 numpad-Enter.

Click on the first "More" link in the first post to see some of the options for the bottom row. There is also more to see if you study pictures of the PCB carefully (links in the first post). Support for ISO Return key isn't there in the shots of the PCB, but we have been promised it for the revision that is going to be offered in this round.

This keyboard is like the GH60 + GHpad in one case, with all the layout options that it has ... plus the option of arrow-keys in the space in-between plus backlighting. And if all you wanted was a 60% keyboard with backlighting, you could order the PCB, easily cut away the numpad-portion and put that into a Poker-compatible case.
The controller is an ATmega32u4 - the same as in the Teensy and the GH60, plus a chip that helps with backlighting. I expect to be able to convert any of the open firmwares that exist out there to work with this board (without backlighting at least).

Edit: I discovered even more options that I hadn't listed above.  :p

yes u are correct fidecanor :thumb:

and thx for your detail explaination

Coolness, the explanation helps a lot to understand the options, this seems like a great, and flexible option for a semi custom keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Updated Whole keyboard look)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sun, 08 June 2014, 10:03:20
a little bit of IC

Leather palm rest / Wooden Palm Rest

Which one do u prefer?

(http://img04.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i4/158471868/T2s.ncXA8XXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)
(http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/158471868/T2xSG7XzRXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)


(http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/787854409/T2ke9CXFRXXXXXXXXX_!!787854409.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:22:26
Wow! This GB is getting better and better :)

Depending on the price I am interested in both kinds of palm rest.

Preferably a dark color that will fit most cases.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: minho on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:35:18
Is the palm rest specifically designed for the length of the Red Scarf? And I'm good with either one, but have a slight preference towards wooden.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: RESPRiT on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:58:33
Leather :D
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:30:52
+1   Leather.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:42:26
why not both
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: minho on Sun, 08 June 2014, 17:29:44
why not both

Probably to help hit MOQ?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 08 June 2014, 18:01:23
wood
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: daddytime on Mon, 09 June 2014, 02:11:32
This is downright sexy.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: vultures on Mon, 09 June 2014, 02:27:28
when roughly you going to get the ISO sample from your supplier?

Can't wait to join in this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 09 June 2014, 06:55:32
The pros and cons of leather and wood palm rest

Leather
Feel: soft touch
Structure : Latex sponge, with a metal plate under it, and wraped the top with leather
(i think we will use the highest level First layer of leather import from other country (not china) (i dunno if i stated this correctly))
Pros: machine made, short lead time, a lot of colours to choose, can create your own stamp on the leather if you are willing to pay more
Cons: errrm.... i dont know


Wooden
feel : hard touch
Structure : A cut of a naturla piece of wood with wax coated on it
Pros : Natural, Elegant, hand made,
Cons : longer lead time, may not have accurate dimension




the latest version of plate is still under production

after that i will have the ANSI sample

so I will start the GB after receiving the ANSI sample, or it will be rather late




Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Mon, 09 June 2014, 07:18:13
The pros and cons of leather and wood palm rest

Leather
Feel: soft touch
Structure : Latex sponge, with a metal plate under it, and wraped the top with leather
(i think we will use the highest level First layer of leather import from other country (not china) (i dunno if i stated this correctly))
Pros: machine made, short lead time, a lot of colours to choose, can create your own stamp on the leather if you are willing to pay more
Cons: errrm.... i dont know


Wooden
feel : hard touch
Structure : A cut of a naturla piece of wood with wax coated on it
Pros : Natural, Elegant, hand made,
Cons : longer lead time, may not have accurate dimension




the latest version of plate is still under production

after that i will have the ANSI sample

so I will start the GB after receiving the ANSI sample, or it will be rather late






Cant wait!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 09 June 2014, 09:56:49
one disadvantage of leather is that, its not perfect fit for the board, the height and so
unlike wooden one, which u can adjust the height

although if we have large amount of order, we can specifically order a dimension for it.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:59:12
I'm not buying as I have no need and the layout is not what I want.

But I REALLY wish you guys the best.

The experience is extremely valuable.

Maybe 1 year from now you'll do another DIY bundle for a layout I want and I'll be on this like a rat jumps on big rice. (Is that song really true? Rats love rice?  :p)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Tue, 10 June 2014, 04:07:32
one disadvantage of leather is that, its not perfect fit for the board, the height and so
unlike wooden one, which u can adjust the height

although if we have large amount of order, we can specifically order a dimension for it.

I have a similar leather wrist rest and yes the standard height is not quite high enough.

How do you adjust the height on the wooden ones?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 10 June 2014, 04:39:28
one disadvantage of leather is that, its not perfect fit for the board, the height and so
unlike wooden one, which u can adjust the height

although if we have large amount of order, we can specifically order a dimension for it.

I have a similar leather wrist rest and yes the standard height is not quite high enough.

How do you adjust the height on the wooden ones?

Simply give them the height of edge of the case and match the edge of wood palm rest

For leather.  U can never fit it as the edge of palm rest is not a sharp one
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: nereme on Wed, 11 June 2014, 15:12:34
+1 for leather looking forward to this GB
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 11 June 2014, 15:31:01
I would say wood, but only if it is a perfect fit, if there is any chance it would have a gap or whatever, then leather would be my vote. This is the most comprehensive GB i've seen. I hope we aren't overextending ourselves.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Wed, 11 June 2014, 15:36:49
Leather! And more colors would be awesome! White for example!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Thu, 12 June 2014, 08:34:52
I would say wood, but only if it is a perfect fit, if there is any chance it would have a gap or whatever, then leather would be my vote. This is the most comprehensive GB i've seen. I hope we aren't overextending ourselves.

Dude try putting a book or something right up to the edge of your keyboard and type fast. The space bar becomes really hard to press.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 12 June 2014, 17:42:04
have asked about the leather one

With all the colour stated above and you can provide ur OWN logo to be stamped onto the palm rest
though extra cost will be needed as a new mold will be made to do so

Logo that they provide which do not require extra cost
More
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/158471868/T2YHO8XptXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)



so... customizable parts = leather colour, string colour, and logo


I'm not buying as I have no need and the layout is not what I want.

But I REALLY wish you guys the best.

The experience is extremely valuable.

Maybe 1 year from now you'll do another DIY bundle for a layout I want and I'll be on this like a rat jumps on big rice. (Is that song really true? Rats love rice?  :p)

Thx berserkfan!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 12 June 2014, 17:48:10
have asked about the leather one

With all the colour stated above and you can provide ur OWN logo to be stamped onto the palm rest
though extra cost will be needed as a new mold will be made to do so

Logo that they provide which do not require extra cost
More
Show Image
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/158471868/T2YHO8XptXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)




so... customizable parts = leather colour, string colour, and logo


Even if I end up not being able to get one of the keyboard kits I would really like to get a leather TKL wrist rest with one of these logos.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: minho on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:27:48
have asked about the leather one

With all the colour stated above and you can provide ur OWN logo to be stamped onto the palm rest
though extra cost will be needed as a new mold will be made to do so

Logo that they provide which do not require extra cost
More
Show Image
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/158471868/T2YHO8XptXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)


so... customizable parts = leather colour, string colour, and logo


 :eek: My vote has changed to leather
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:34:30
have asked about the leather one

With all the colour stated above and you can provide ur OWN logo to be stamped onto the palm rest
though extra cost will be needed as a new mold will be made to do so

Logo that they provide which do not require extra cost
More
Show Image
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/158471868/T2YHO8XptXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)




so... customizable parts = leather colour, string colour, and logo


Even if I end up not being able to get one of the keyboard kits I would really like to get a leather TKL wrist rest with one of these logos.

Which logo will you get?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 12 June 2014, 21:56:58
have asked about the leather one

With all the colour stated above and you can provide ur OWN logo to be stamped onto the palm rest
though extra cost will be needed as a new mold will be made to do so

Logo that they provide which do not require extra cost
More
Show Image
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/158471868/T2YHO8XptXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)




so... customizable parts = leather colour, string colour, and logo


Even if I end up not being able to get one of the keyboard kits I would really like to get a leather TKL wrist rest with one of these logos.

Which logo will you get?

Cherry or Filco.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 June 2014, 02:38:31
Oh boy, this is getting better and better!

I'll get the keyboard kit and 2 wrist rests with logos.

Hope guys can handle all of this and this doesn't get delayed forever like the GH60 group buy...
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Fri, 13 June 2014, 04:52:40
Oh boy, this is getting better and better!

I'll get the keyboard kit and 2 wrist rests with logos.

Hope guys can handle all of this and this doesn't get delayed forever like the GH60 group buy...

I won't collect any money unless I am sure that all the source have steady supply and price is correct
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 June 2014, 05:11:30
That sounds like the perfect approach to such a huge thing!

Thank you very much for doing this - I really appreciate all the efforts you already put in  :thumb:

I really like your active communication in all of your threads and am looking forward to the final product!

By the way, would it be possible to bundle this GB with your Tai Hao GB so I can save some shipping costs? Time is not a problem ;)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Fri, 13 June 2014, 05:58:35
That sounds like the perfect approach to such a huge thing!

Thank you very much for doing this - I really appreciate all the efforts you already put in  :thumb:

I really like your active communication in all of your threads and am looking forward to the final product!

By the way, would it be possible to bundle this GB with your Tai Hao GB so I can save some shipping costs? Time is not a problem ;)

yes

i can ship them togehter
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 June 2014, 06:27:55
Thank you  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 07:11:43
no logos on the wrist rests
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 13 June 2014, 07:19:57
Does somebody know what these red circled words in the following picture are? Somewhat they seem familiar.

Somehow I cannot put this pic in spoilers, so here's the link to the pic instead:
http://i.imgur.com/5pYuY8k.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Fri, 13 June 2014, 07:37:01
Does somebody know what these red circled words in the following picture are? Somewhat they seem familiar.

Somehow I cannot put this pic in spoilers, so here's the link to the pic instead:
http://i.imgur.com/5pYuY8k.jpg

the upper one is "Unscientific"

the lower one is "Buck Teeth Jane"

they are some chinese words popular on the internet and movies
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: rosslerosa on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:38:12
This GB just gets better and better, I am just getting more anxious the more I wait!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Heliosphere on Sun, 15 June 2014, 03:24:59
Wouldn't it be neat to have a custom "GeekHack" logo on the palmrest?
Title: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 03:37:24
have asked about the leather one

With all the colour stated above and you can provide ur OWN logo to be stamped onto the palm rest
though extra cost will be needed as a new mold will be made to do so

Logo that they provide which do not require extra cost
More
Show Image
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/158471868/T2YHO8XptXXXXXXXXX_!!158471868.jpg)




so... customizable parts = leather colour, string colour, and logo


Even if I end up not being able to get one of the keyboard kits I would really like to get a leather TKL wrist rest with one of these logos.

Which logo will you get?

Lol I have an urge to get the madoka one, just cause no one else will

Edit: That taiga :s
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Sun, 15 June 2014, 04:27:07
Wouldn't it be neat to have a custom "GeekHack" logo on the palmrest?

I would need permission from admins :-[
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 15 June 2014, 04:37:58
Wouldn't it be neat to have a custom "GeekHack" logo on the palmrest?

I would need permission from admins :-[

I guess this shouldn't be a problem. Just send the mods a PM:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34190

If the geekhack logo becomes available, I'll have to get a 3rd wrist rest in this GB :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 15 June 2014, 04:40:25
Wouldn't it be neat to have a custom "GeekHack" logo on the palmrest?

I would need permission from admins :-[

I guess this shouldn't be a problem. Just send the mods a PM:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34190

If the geekhack logo becomes available, I'll have to get a 3rd wrist rest in this GB :thumb:

I think Bunny had some made. So I wouldn't think it would be a problem as long as you get permission.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Mon, 16 June 2014, 05:58:51
Are there any updates on the keyboard side of the GB?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Tue, 17 June 2014, 13:04:50
What would a custom logo cost on the palmrest? Just to know if it would be affordable
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 13:41:36
Are there any updates on the keyboard side of the GB?

i was wondering the same thing
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 17 June 2014, 23:23:22
Are there any updates on the keyboard side of the GB?

i was wondering the same thing


It's around $10

Still pending to deposit.....
Will update if there's any news
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 18 June 2014, 00:08:53
What's 10$?

Do you mean getting a custom logo? That would be pretty good price!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: minho on Wed, 18 June 2014, 00:42:40
What's 10$?

Do you mean getting a custom logo? That would be pretty good price!

Is there a MOQ for custom logos, or can you get single custom orders? (MOQ for custom logos would make this GB a lot harder I think...  :eek:)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:37:00
If the mold would cost 10$ I would get it ;)
Any news when the group buy would start? Just an estimate?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Flamingchook on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:53:40
Definitely going to be in for one of these kits! I absolutely adore the layout.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 19 June 2014, 14:27:14
yes
custom logo Mold should be around $10 dollars as far as i know
i will reconfirm about it
No MOQ is needed

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 19 June 2014, 15:17:02
Nice only 10$ :)

Have you asked about using the Geekhack logo?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Sun, 22 June 2014, 15:55:18
yes
custom logo Mold should be around $10 dollars as far as i know
i will reconfirm about it
No MOQ is needed



That's good price! I will certainly get one of those and maybe a few rests in different colors.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 22 June 2014, 17:05:45
would it be possible to get a plate where the numberpad is located on the left?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: wiredPANDA on Sun, 22 June 2014, 19:51:10
Almost missed this IC.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: twiddle on Sun, 22 June 2014, 19:55:59
I'm interested also.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:17:39
would it be possible to get a plate where the numberpad is located on the left?

sorry  i dont think thats possible

and the PCB does not allow that layout too
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:35:42
would it be possible to get a plate where the numberpad is located on the left?

sorry  i dont think thats possible

and the PCB does not allow that layout too

It would be possible to cut away the numpad and solder small cables directly to the pcb and have the numpad on the left. But how easy it is, i want to be untold. What I can see is that it only has three pcb traces over the cutting line, but maybe I have missed something.

EDIT: That would maybe be a good modification to the PCB, to add solder points on the traces just before and after the cutting line, so if you cut off the numpad it would be quite easier to add it back if you would like to. Or you could solder a own connector.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 29 June 2014, 18:56:58
EDIT: That would maybe be a good modification to the PCB, to add solder points on the traces just before and after the cutting line, so if you cut off the numpad it would be quite easier to add it back if you would like to.
It already has them, but spread over four groups.
See the pictures in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57976.0).
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Mon, 30 June 2014, 07:33:59
EDIT: That would maybe be a good modification to the PCB, to add solder points on the traces just before and after the cutting line, so if you cut off the numpad it would be quite easier to add it back if you would like to.
It already has them, but spread over four groups.
See the pictures in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57976.0).

hi Findecanor

i have asked him about cutting off any of the column of the numpad part
but he said there is too little space to do so
so its rather impossible

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:30:17
EDIT: That would maybe be a good modification to the PCB, to add solder points on the traces just before and after the cutting line, so if you cut off the numpad it would be quite easier to add it back if you would like to.
It already has them, but spread over four groups.
See the pictures in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57976.0).

hi Findecanor

i have asked him about cutting off any of the column of the numpad part
but he said there is too little space to do so
so its rather impossible



I didn't see that. Or actually missed it.
But seems like if you use a very thin blade on a dremel it may be possible. Maybe I will try this if the group buy happens. I would love to change side to use that side as macro keys in games. You can use 1x keys over the whole numpad right?

You can use these pins for the solder points right?
http://www.trainweb.org/girr/tips/tips8/sd45_pin_grid_header.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 01 July 2014, 09:01:02
EDIT: That would maybe be a good modification to the PCB, to add solder points on the traces just before and after the cutting line, so if you cut off the numpad it would be quite easier to add it back if you would like to.
It already has them, but spread over four groups.
See the pictures in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57976.0).

hi Findecanor

i have asked him about cutting off any of the column of the numpad part
but he said there is too little space to do so
so its rather impossible



I didn't see that. Or actually missed it.
But seems like if you use a very thin blade on a dremel it may be possible. Maybe I will try this if the group buy happens. I would love to change side to use that side as macro keys in games. You can use 1x keys over the whole numpad right?

You can use these pins for the solder points right?
http://www.trainweb.org/girr/tips/tips8/sd45_pin_grid_header.jpg

not sure

i have little knowledge about PCB production....simply a messenger asking this

but from the current structure, i think there wont have enough space for putting that soldering point on every space between numpad column
and thats what xhjs (the designer) had told me

maybe you can provide me a clearer illustration so i can ask him about it? :)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:13:17
but from the current structure, i think there wont have enough space for putting that soldering point on every space between numpad column and thats what xhjs (the designer) had told me
The discussion about soldering points was about relocating the numpad to the left side. I don't think that anyone who is now interested in cutting away individual columns from the right side would be interested in reconnecting any of those.

For me at least, I am just interested in getting the smd components for the keys on the left of the cut out of the way so that I could make a clean cut and not have to reconnect anything. Instead of having so many to the right of switches, have them to the left, above and below.
Having milled grooves between columns would not be necessary, but would make things easier.
Having additional solder pads would be completely unnecessary.

Here is an illustration of what I mean. The PCB is seen from the bottom, so left <=> right from the description above. (click the picture to magnify)
[attach=1]

BTW, I would use a 4" razor saw. Wear a dust mask and keep the vacuum cleaner held close all the time for safety.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:17:08
but from the current structure, i think there wont have enough space for putting that soldering point on every space between numpad column and thats what xhjs (the designer) had told me
The discussion about soldering points was about relocating the numpad to the left side. I don't think that anyone who is now interested in cutting away individual columns from the right side would be interested in reconnecting any of those.

For me at least, I am just interested in getting the smd components for the keys on the left of the cut out of the way so that I could make a clean cut and not have to reconnect anything. Instead of having so many to the right of switches, have them to the left, above and below.
Having milled grooves between columns would not be necessary, but would make things easier.
Having additional solder pads would be completely unnecessary.

Here is an illustration of what I mean. The PCB is seen from the bottom, so left <=> right from the description above. (click the picture to magnify)
(Attachment Link)

BTW, I would use a 4" razor saw. Wear a dust mask and keep the vacuum cleaner held close all the time for safety.


what he replied me is that this place made this impossible

(http://i.imgur.com/jy9fz5o.jpg)

and he replied me that theres really too little space for him to move stuff around

hope this could reply your question :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 01 July 2014, 13:24:23
what he replied me is that this place made this impossible
...
and he replied me that theres really too little space for him to move stuff around
Thanks. That's not a problem for me though, as I will be keeping two columns. :)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 02 July 2014, 10:42:08
not sure if that problem lead to all the column cannot be cut or not

but he said its not feasible :confused:

sorry
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: tinlong117 on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:00:40
not sure if that problem lead to all the column cannot be cut or not

but he said its not feasible :confused:

sorry

He means he will cut them by himself.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:04:29
not sure if that problem lead to all the column cannot be cut or not

but he said its not feasible :confused:

sorry

He means he will cut them by himself.

diodes and resistors on the line of cutting?
i thought that is the concern?

forgive me if i have got it wrong :p
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 02 July 2014, 17:46:25
diodes and resistors on the line of cutting?
i thought that is the concern?
Yes. I am also somewhat concerned that the could be a diode or resistor on the wrong side of the cutting line.

Personally, I'm committed for a couple of boards anyway. :) I will have to study the traces carefully when I get it and decide then how I'll do.
I enough people are interested, maybe I could get a small run made of 1,2 and/or 3-column boards that could connect to the numpad's headers.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 08 July 2014, 02:01:10
I dont know if this was already answered or not, but if you'll provide a 60% case will the GH60 PCB fit in this?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 08 July 2014, 09:10:32
i can include it as an extra option in the set :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: apathy3cs on Fri, 11 July 2014, 00:10:37
I'll also have some interest in this + the palm rest.  will it be possible to buy multiple palm rests or 1/ ?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Thu, 24 July 2014, 02:07:54
Any updates on the red scarf 77 Harry? I've been excited about this since May haha.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: ChillyVanilly on Fri, 15 August 2014, 14:02:45
Any updates? Are you going to wait until after the current TaiHao GB ships?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 18 August 2014, 23:51:00
I would also love to know.
I'm itching for a new keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 19 August 2014, 05:24:50
No we do not have to wait until the TaiHao GB ships, but I have only just received the sample from the supplier. Will upload a few photos as soon as I've got my camera back - stay tuned!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 19 August 2014, 05:27:29
No we do not have to wait until the TaiHao GB ships, but I have only just received the sample from the supplier. Will upload a few photos as soon as I've got my camera back - stay tuned!  :D

Sounds great!

Thanks for the update Harry  :thumb:

Hope the custom wrist rests will still happen!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Tue, 19 August 2014, 11:55:33
FINALLY

(http://i.imgur.com/TSSwW6S.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zfhBuAK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y6FXhBD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Xxag3Mo.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 19 August 2014, 12:01:11
Wow!

Looks great  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: jameslr on Tue, 19 August 2014, 12:18:36
I'm interested in this as well, but not with the 100 MX blacks. Would that change the price at all? Sorry if this has already been answered. I didn't read every single post. As an aside - I would really like to try one of those Noppoo 108-EC pro boards!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Harrowed on Tue, 19 August 2014, 12:23:40
FINALLY

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TSSwW6S.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zfhBuAK.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y6FXhBD.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Xxag3Mo.jpg)

I ran out of money so I'm signing loan contracts and throwing those at my computer screen
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 13:35:37
awesome! i am so very excited for this.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 20 August 2014, 03:58:26
Looks great! Red and gold reminds me of Iron Man!
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Wed, 20 August 2014, 15:11:23
Looks good. Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: witbliz on Thu, 21 August 2014, 12:06:08
Very impressed - sign me up for one of these :)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:13:00
communicating with other sources of products

will post updates here

btw, are there any interest in high-quality made in china mx-compatible switches
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:16:41
btw, are there any interest in high-quality made in china mx-compatible switches

No, at least not for me.

With Cherry MX I know what I get - I don't like to gamble on the quality of a switch ;)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:23:27
communicating with other sources of products

will post updates here

btw, are there any interest in high-quality made in china mx-compatible switches

no switches, no wrist rests, just keyboard!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Harrowed on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:54:00
btw, are there any interest in high-quality made in china mx-compatible switches
Not interested in those or MX blacks. I rather harvest cheap used MX blues from classifieds.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: witbliz on Sun, 24 August 2014, 01:34:09
Seems i'm on the same boat with everyone, rather have have the choice to choose our own switches :)

Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 24 August 2014, 01:54:43
I would not be interested in any clone switch until it has been properly examined, tested, evaluated and judged to be of as high quality as Cherry MX, by people on Geekhack.

Right now, for me, vintage Cherry MX switches from old keyboards are superior to everything else, and I've got enough of them for a while.  I would only be interested in samples of clone switches for testing.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 24 August 2014, 03:20:24
only want my own mx switches tuned to my liking.
very much want a keyboard and wrist rest though. =3
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: beltet on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:21:26
communicating with other sources of products

will post updates here

btw, are there any interest in high-quality made in china mx-compatible switches

That depends on the price and recommendations. If they are as good as advertised and much cheaper than Cherry I would like to test them.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: sosthaboss on Sun, 31 August 2014, 13:08:01
I'm definitely interested in this group buy. I'd love to try out DIYing a keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: kitsun8 on Sun, 14 September 2014, 19:05:10
i'm just interested in the switch stickers  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:25:06
Any updates? It has been a while...
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: ChillyVanilly on Fri, 10 October 2014, 16:39:05
Is this still happening?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 15 October 2014, 11:03:35
I'm also curious if this is still happening.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 15 October 2014, 12:30:46
I bet he is just busy with the Tai Hao Sale as he received the keycaps and is sorting and preparing for shipping them out.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 02 November 2014, 13:59:43
Was just browsing TaoBao and saw this then came straight to GeekHack and saw this thread.

In for just the keyboard, no switches, no wrist rest!

 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: corydora on Sun, 02 November 2014, 15:12:22
This is really lovely, I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 30 November 2014, 21:40:21
Oh I hope this is still going on. If so I am interested in just the keyboard case and pcb. Got myself plenty of the other stuff.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 27 December 2014, 07:06:58
is this still happening?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: genkidama on Sat, 27 December 2014, 13:23:43
I bet Harry is just very busy with the TaiHao Keycaps shipments and the holidays :)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: ChillyVanilly on Tue, 03 February 2015, 12:28:42
Is this still happening?
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: agbockus on Fri, 06 February 2015, 00:35:58
Holy crap would I probably be in on this.

No switches - looking for MX Clears on this board.

Other than that, it's perfect for me. In my budget too...kind of.....man I hate how expensive college is...

Haha :)
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: mogo on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:35:40
I hope I don't ruffle any feathers by digging up this thread from the grave, because even though it's been a year since GhostofHarry chimed in on this thread, I hope he knows just that there are those still watching and hoping for a GB for this board!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:36:44
I hope I don't ruffle any feathers by digging up this thread from the grave, because even though it's been a year since GhostofHarry chimed in on this thread, I hope he knows just that there are those still watching and hoping for a GB for this board!  :thumb:

Considering how his other group buy went I don't think people will be wanting to throw money at anything he sponsors.
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: mogo on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:38:02
Oop. I didn't dig around enough to notice controversy over his GB, I got the impression that the keyset may have taken a while to complete but that's about it...
Title: Re: [IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 07 October 2015, 15:27:52
Unfortunately still many wait on their sets..  :(