Hi All,
just wanna ask about Razer Switch, i found this image somewhere else :Show Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/03/07/Kailh+0001.jpg?t=original&k=e43bf09a)
about this Kailh Switch...is there any good? because razer used Cherry MX before...but why Razer choose Kailh switch to replace the cherry and say "NEW RAZER SWITCH"??? can anyone explain pros and cons about kailh switch.
Thanx :thumb: ;D
Hi,
okaiyy but cheaper?? i dont think so..because the price is not far from the previous BW...
some people said that kailh switch is the BOOTLEG from cherry....
From what other people have posted on this forum is that they are cheap knock-offs. They don't last as long as a cherry mx and are faulty. I tried them out at my local best buy and I wouldn't waste the money on them.
See here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56406.0
Hi,
okaiyy but cheaper?? i dont think so..because the price is not far from the previous BW...
some people said that kailh switch is the BOOTLEG from cherry....
Kailh switches are copies of Cherry MX. Like most other clones, they are regarded as being lower-quality than Cherry MX and there have been pictures of broken Kailh switches posted on this board and elsewhere.
Razer switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Razer_switch) are a new revision of Kailh switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Kaihua_PG1511_series), designed by Razer and Kailh/Kaihua in cooperation and made in Kaihua's factories. (Company name: Kaihua, Brand name: Kailh)
Razer claims that quality of materials and manufacturing has improved over Kailh switches (as well as over Cherry MX...), but as the switches are quite new, we still don't know how good they will fare in the long run.
One objective difference though, is that the Razer switches have gold-plated contacts inside (like Cherry MX) while Kailh switches don't.
There are rumours that new regular Kailh switches would be built like Razer switches, but that has yet to be confirmed.
Razer's motivation behind the "Razer switches" is not only to get them cheaper, but also because they have been afraid that Cherry GMBH wouldn't be able to fill their demand of key switches.
Hi All,
just wanna ask about Razer Switch, i found this image somewhere else :Show Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/03/07/Kailh+0001.jpg?t=original&k=e43bf09a)
about this Kailh Switch...is there any good? because razer used Cherry MX before...but why Razer choose Kailh switch to replace the cherry and say "NEW RAZER SWITCH" ??? can anyone explain pros and cons about kailh switch.
Thanx :thumb: ;D
Hi All,
just wanna ask about Razer Switch, i found this image somewhere else :Show Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/03/07/Kailh+0001.jpg?t=original&k=e43bf09a)
about this Kailh Switch...is there any good? because razer used Cherry MX before...but why Razer choose Kailh switch to replace the cherry and say "NEW RAZER SWITCH" ??? can anyone explain pros and cons about kailh switch.
Thanx :thumb: ;D
Check out my review on the latest Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition /w orange switches.
You may enjoy it.
Link here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57466.msg1316316#msg1316316
No, it's bad don't use it get a better keyboard.
One is made in China and one is made in Germany.
Think about that for a second.
Not sure if serious..
china is, in general, alot more about quantity than they are about quality.
i think kailh is just a matter of less quality for less money, compared to cherry.
razer is not exactly about quality, either.
i'd suggest to stay away from crap, but razer is obviously great at marketing.
and i'm not saying that they've only made crap but, in general, that's just what they do.
Of course it's more expensive, but you get what you pay for.
That's debatable. I mean, they're not that expensive. Not as expensive as Filco, Ducky or even Das. Sure there are better boards for cheaper (QFR) but Razer isn't stupidly expensive or anything. Except for some of their mice.
They DO make some nice products, but their marketing is just eeeehhh. Throws a lot of people off.
but the kailh switch model is more cool than standard cherry.. :p
Hi,
okaiyy but cheaper?? i dont think so..because the price is not far from the previous BW...
some people said that kailh switch is the BOOTLEG from cherry....
Hi All,
just wanna ask about Razer Switch, i found this image somewhere else :Show Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/03/07/Kailh+0001.jpg?t=original&k=e43bf09a)
about this Kailh Switch...is there any good? because razer used Cherry MX before...but why Razer choose Kailh switch to replace the cherry and say "NEW RAZER SWITCH"??? can anyone explain pros and cons about kailh switch.
Thanx :thumb: ;D
For one, I've heard they're cheaper. But I've also heard they are more prone to being faulty and breaking and similar stuff. And Razer in general being with quality checks. I might be wrong though. Other than cheaper and apparently worse quality (don't really think there's a huuuge difference tbh), there shouldn't be many differences between a Kailh and a Cherry switch :)
scumbag company making money from people who don't know better
scumbag company making money from people who don't know better, imo.
That's debatable. I mean, they're not that expensive. Not as expensive as Filco, Ducky or even Das. Sure there are better boards for cheaper (QFR) but Razer isn't stupidly expensive or anything. Except for some of their mice.
They DO make some nice products, but their marketing is just eeeehhh. Throws a lot of people off.
;D ;D agree....except for their Razer Blade.... :thumb:
but the kailh switch model is more cool than standard cherry.. :p
Damn, this boy wants to start another Cherry V's Razer War here on Geekhack :o .
Trust me, it won't be pretty.
Hi,
okaiyy but cheaper?? i dont think so..because the price is not far from the previous BW...
some people said that kailh switch is the BOOTLEG from cherry....Hi All,
just wanna ask about Razer Switch, i found this image somewhere else :Show Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/03/07/Kailh+0001.jpg?t=original&k=e43bf09a)
about this Kailh Switch...is there any good? because razer used Cherry MX before...but why Razer choose Kailh switch to replace the cherry and say "NEW RAZER SWITCH"??? can anyone explain pros and cons about kailh switch.
Thanx :thumb: ;D
For one, I've heard they're cheaper. But I've also heard they are more prone to being faulty and breaking and similar stuff. And Razer in general being with quality checks. I might be wrong though. Other than cheaper and apparently worse quality (don't really think there's a huuuge difference tbh), there shouldn't be many differences between a Kailh and a Cherry switch :)
Razer use something cheaper? You don't say?! haha.. scumbag company making money from people who don't know better, imo.
nope...just curious why Razer choose kailh? but true when the keycap is pulled, kailh switch model is cooler than standard cherry....my opinion ;)
The reason they did this is simple. It is cheaper and since the Razer name is more popular among the casual, they are able to capitalize on acting as if they created the switch.
Directly from the keyboard product description "Introducing the all new Razer Mechanical Switches, designed from the ground up for gaming".
So yesterday, I was removing keycaps from my older Razer BW TE MX brown, and in the process of trying to remove the spacebar - I snapped the keycap on the long edge. What happened was that I had every other key out so I pulled on the two ends of the spacebar and got it loose. Then I used my left hand to pull on the space (finger and thumb on the middle of the spacebar), and my right hand to keep the keyboard down.
One side of the spacebar literally cracked off. I'll post a picture later tonight. Not sure if this is normal (keycaps are thin plastic after all), but I've never had this happen with my other ABS and PBT keycaps.
The reason they did this is simple. It is cheaper and since the Razer name is more popular among the casual, they are able to capitalize on acting as if they created the switch.
Directly from the keyboard product description "Introducing the all new Razer Mechanical Switches, designed from the ground up for gaming".
To go with the marketing angle, I've also heard rumors that Cherry has been hard to source switches from lately. With their own switches, Razer gets to control its manufacturing chain and production times a bit more.
The reason they did this is simple. It is cheaper and since the Razer name is more popular among the casual, they are able to capitalize on acting as if they created the switch.
Directly from the keyboard product description "Introducing the all new Razer Mechanical Switches, designed from the ground up for gaming".
To go with the marketing angle, I've also heard rumors that Cherry has been hard to source switches from lately. With their own switches, Razer gets to control its manufacturing chain and production times a bit more.
Although a rumor, this makes a lot of sense.
It still frustrates me when companies rebrand something and call it their own. That's like me making a Gucci belt with the same design and slightly different logo and claiming "built from the ground up and engineered for people who like fashion". It's such a cheap form of marketing and blatantly misleading. It's also in the grey area of legality.
Hell, even their Razer laptop has a case design remarkable similar to the Mac book but in black. They copy and paste designs and try to capitalize on consumer ignorance.
Look at Corsair on the other hand. Even though I'm not a fan of their case designs, they have no problem developing for gamers who aren't keyboard enthusiasts but never hide they are using Cherry MX and give credit where it is due. Then look at how the product quality reflects between Corsair and Razer. Corsair has far superior hardware and doesn't try to capitalize on cheap PR. Sony is another company who focuses more on marketing than delivering a quality product.
The reason this bothers me so much is I feel like this is the nail in the coffin for Razer. I always felt they were going this direction but with this they've completely turned the corner in my eyes. There is no returning from it. First it was when I felt the horrible quality of their $300 keyboard with the LED keys. They called scissor switches "low profile keys for gaming and quick actuation", lmao.
Razer has become the Apple of gaming hardware.
The reason they did this is simple. It is cheaper and since the Razer name is more popular among the casual, they are able to capitalize on acting as if they created the switch.
Directly from the keyboard product description "Introducing the all new Razer Mechanical Switches, designed from the ground up for gaming".
To go with the marketing angle, I've also heard rumors that Cherry has been hard to source switches from lately. With their own switches, Razer gets to control its manufacturing chain and production times a bit more.
Although a rumor, this makes a lot of sense.
It still frustrates me when companies rebrand something and call it their own. That's like me making a Gucci belt with the same design and slightly different logo and claiming "built from the ground up and engineered for people who like fashion". It's such a cheap form of marketing and blatantly misleading. It's also in the grey area of legality.
Hell, even their Razer laptop has a case design remarkable similar to the Mac book but in black. They copy and paste designs and try to capitalize on consumer ignorance.
Look at Corsair on the other hand. Even though I'm not a fan of their case designs, they have no problem developing for gamers who aren't keyboard enthusiasts but never hide they are using Cherry MX and give credit where it is due. Then look at how the product quality reflects between Corsair and Razer. Corsair has far superior hardware and doesn't try to capitalize on cheap PR. Sony is another company who focuses more on marketing than delivering a quality product.
The reason this bothers me so much is I feel like this is the nail in the coffin for Razer. I always felt they were going this direction but with this they've completely turned the corner in my eyes. There is no returning from it. First it was when I felt the horrible quality of their $300 keyboard with the LED keys. They called scissor switches "low profile keys for gaming and quick actuation", lmao.
Razer has become the Apple of gaming hardware.
is that true that corsair has far superior hardware? love the design....but i dont really like the size....
The reason they did this is simple. It is cheaper and since the Razer name is more popular among the casual, they are able to capitalize on acting as if they created the switch.
Directly from the keyboard product description "Introducing the all new Razer Mechanical Switches, designed from the ground up for gaming".
To go with the marketing angle, I've also heard rumors that Cherry has been hard to source switches from lately. With their own switches, Razer gets to control its manufacturing chain and production times a bit more.