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geekhack Community => Input Devices => Topic started by: dw_junon on Wed, 22 April 2009, 14:37:59

Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: dw_junon on Wed, 22 April 2009, 14:37:59: Wolfking Warrior Game Pad - "The ultimate FPS gaming keyboard!" (http://www.wolfkingusa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9&Itemid=7)

How I found it (and since it seems to be a clearer picture of the layout than is immediately found on the site):
(http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/42/6e/90d6_1.JPG) (http://search.ebay.co.uk/270378558972)

Extraordinary. I do wonder what the x is xKRO.

And or the record, I don't have any affiliation with these parties either.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 22 April 2009, 14:51:13: When I was a gamer. I thought about getting one of these, but I always thought the Nostromo n52 was better since I used the d-pad on the thumb as my WASD keys freeing up my other four fingers for buttons.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: IBI on Wed, 22 April 2009, 14:55:35: I might get one of these sorts of things (there are several) if I end up with a small keyboard.

The thing that strikes me about that one is that the U key is missing, rather bizzare considering that it's the default key for team chat in both the battlefield series and most of valve's games.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: IBI on Wed, 22 April 2009, 18:09:57: Quote from: ripster;86860
I'm waiting for Rev 2 of this to replace my Nostromo.- Ripster

What differences will rev 2 have?
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 23 April 2009, 06:35:05: I could imagine that the Wolfking would be good for Photoshop work. I use my right hand for the mouse and the left hand to enter commands. Similar as in gaming.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 23 April 2009, 06:43:44: I am not sure I would like the stick on the Logitech over the d-pad on the Nostromo. To me, that would seem kinda awkward for FPS control (which is what I mainly played). It might be good for flight/space simulation, but I would rather use an all out joystick for that.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: pex on Fri, 24 April 2009, 08:20:02: Nothing on the product page that claims any feature of rollover, and I see "Plug & Play - USB. No drivers required".

Looks like another wasted engineering or marketing opportunity.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: megarat on Sat, 20 March 2010, 23:02:56: I just picked up one of these (in Ferrari red) from a local yard sale today for US$6. I'll post some thoughts after I get some time to make it squeal.

Here's a link to a photo (http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=83162), a link to a positive but casual review (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/wolf_king_warrior_review/), and a link to the company's official propaganda (http://www.wolfkingusa.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9&Itemid=7).

For a start, it's rubber dome all the way.

UPDATE: I couldn't help but add this item I found from a review (technically of the successor product, the Warrior XXTreme) ... statements of such glowing, incisive authority just make my day: "Will the (WolfKing Warrior XXTreme) make you a better gamer? Almost possibly."
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: Nonmouse on Sat, 20 March 2010, 23:13:57: Quote from: megarat;165780

For the start, it's rubber dome all the way.

No, no, no- it's silicone dome all the way. From the earlier link:
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flexible 3-layer silicon membrane allows you to play quietly.

Wait- is it silicone or silicon? I'd tend to think a silicon membrane would be kinda "clicky", or at least "crackly"... not to mention not good for many keystrokes before failure...
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Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 21 March 2010, 00:45:17: I think the Wolfking has too many keys too poorly laid out. It simply doesn't do what gamers need IMO.

I use a Nostromo gamepad and Logitech G9 mouse. The gamepad gives me movement keys plus 18 more buttons the way I use it. The mouse has 7 'buttons' in addition to left/right and scroll, but I use the 2 side buttons as Ctrl and Shift to select four layers of commands in the game. That gives me 4*(18+5)=92 commands if I want. All of them usable without stretching or fumbling or having to look at the controls.

And that's without using the Nostromo's own three layer system. That could give me 4*(3*18+5)=236 commands. More than enough. The real limit is how many commands I can memorise.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: megarat on Sun, 21 March 2010, 01:48:41: Quote from: dw_junon;86842

Extraordinary. I do wonder what the x is xKRO.

Just tested ... it's 2KRO.
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: gcogger on Sun, 21 March 2010, 05:07:02: Quote from: megarat;165803
Just tested ... it's 2KRO.

Thanks for that info - I was thinking of getting one to try, but I don't think I'll bother now!
Title: 52 key FPS layout
Post by: hyperlinked on Sun, 21 March 2010, 07:32:22: Quote from: lowpoly;86919
I could imagine that the Wolfking would be good for Photoshop work. I use my right hand for the mouse and the left hand to enter commands. Similar as in gaming.

There's no need to get a special keyboard so you can make your keyboard more Photoshop friendly. Just setup some special shortcuts with a key remapping program to give you access to things that normally require you to take you hand off the mouse. For example, my Caps Lock is mapped to the control key and when I hold down CNTRL and hit the space bar, it hits the keypad's ENTER key. This allows me to accept active changes and type edits without having to click out of the working window or take my hand off the mouse.