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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Ragwolfe on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:23:26
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Does anyone have a recommendation of which Cherry MX keyswitches would be best for League of Legends, so far it seems to be either brown or black? Is the feedback on the browns a hinderance to reactions (as this is quite an important factor in league or any other MOBA)?
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It really doesn't matter. Get the switch that you think you'll enjoy typing on the most.
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Does anyone have a recommendation of which Cherry MX keyswitches would be best for League of Legends, so far it seems to be either brown or black? Is the feedback on the browns a hinderance to reactions (as this is quite an important factor in league or any other MOBA)?
Honestly, for league, it doesn't matter what switch since the apm isn't very high and I've played league using 'typing' switches like blues and ergo clears.
What matters is that you're comfortable with them, and that they're not too heavy.
If you can get used to linear switches like reds, then you'll find that you can spam buttons faster; yet it really isn't necessary for league.
Edit: Add yourself to the GH LoL thread :P
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It's pretty evenly spread among pro players. A lot of them use Blues and browns, but that's mostly because of Razer/Logitech sponsorships. I played LoL on blacks and was gold before I stopped playing. So it really doesn't matter at all.
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Does anyone have a recommendation of which Cherry MX keyswitches would be best for League of Legends, so far it seems to be either brown or black? Is the feedback on the browns a hinderance to reactions (as this is quite an important factor in league or any other MOBA)?
Honestly, for league, it doesn't matter what switch since the apm isn't very high and I've played league using 'typing' switches like blues and ergo clears.
What matters is that you're comfortable with them, and that they're not too heavy.
If you can get used to linear switches like reds, then you'll find that you can spam buttons faster; yet it really isn't necessary for league.
It really doesn't matter. Get the switch that you think you'll enjoy typing on the most.
I think then I will probably go for blacks as linear switches supposedly last longer than the ones with feedback and I don't want to spend £150 on a keyboard too frequently :P
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All switches should last the same amount of time. I don't know where you heard that.
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Blacks arent that great to type on since they require more force. You could try reds which are a lighter black .
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All switches should last the same amount of time. I don't know where you heard that.
Yeah the commercial crap is contagious
Even razer's supposed '60 million clicks' is more like 'up to 60 million' and as low as 20; just ignore this marketing crap and research stuff through some reputable reviewers or websites.
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All switches should last the same amount of time. I don't know where you heard that.
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/official-mechanical-keyboard-guide#post_6009482
If you click on common switch types it says the advantages of blacks/linear is they last slightly longer!
It does also kind of make sense, especially with less longevity on the blues (more moving parts) and the linear one's will move the metal leaf less than the ones with feedback.
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All switches should last the same amount of time. I don't know where you heard that.
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/official-mechanical-keyboard-guide#post_6009482
If you click on common switch types it says the advantages of blacks/linear is they last slightly longer!
It does also kind of make sense, especially with less longevity on the blues (more moving parts) and the linear one's will move the metal leaf less than the ones with feedback.
In theory, since blacks don't have as many friction points and a heavier spring, there should be less contact with the actuation mechanisms. However in practice, it doesn't really make a difference IMO. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've played league on browns, reds and buckling springs. All fine!
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by the time you break a key on your board, you will have already bought 10 other boards
so I won't worry about lifetime
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by the time you break a key on your board, you will have already bought 10 other boards
so I won't worry about lifetime
can confirm, just bought 11th keyboard
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most of my friends use either blues or browns, I like to use browns/reds - just choose the switch you like :thumb:
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Honestly, I've tried all the Cherry MX switches besides Clears and Greens. For gaming, and I've played a lot of games on these boards (LoL included), Cherry MX Red all day.
Opinion is highly subjective of course, but I love the fact that if I need to act fast, the slightest reach over to the key and it will actuate. So much easier to spam keys on Reds. As a Rogue in WoW, the ease of the linear switch felt very crisp while spamming to make sure the ability executed the second it was off cool down.
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All switches should last the same amount of time. I don't know where you heard that.
Blues used to advertise a lesser number of actuations before failure. Perhaps he read it out of the cherry datasheets.
for gaming, clears can be nice, as they actuate just past the tactile bump, so it is very easy to bounce them at that point.
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Whatever you use isn't going to magically make you a better player. That being said, I like gaming on clears.
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I play a lot of LoL on reds. I used a brown board for gaming before this one, and I definitely prefer reds for this purpose. But your mouse is going to have a much great effect than your keyboard on league performance (and for most games).
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Whatever you use isn't going to magically make you a better player. That being said, I like gaming on clears.
Not true. With my new uber l33t razer switches, I've gone from a total n00b to a professional gamer
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it doesnt matter what you use. some of the best sc2 players still use dome keyboards up to this date. just try all the switches and go with whatever you like the best
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I used to play League with a Razer rubber dome one-hand-keypad thingy, and that was definitely NOT okay. If I missed slightly and pressed a key too far from the centre it would sometimes stick and not actuate. Not all the time, but often enough that I wouldn't want to go back to using one. I've had no issues with any of the mechanical switches I've played with.
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Topre
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Topre
has less lifespan than Cherry MX
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Got diamond on a mix of blues, Stock Clear, Buckling Spring (even with 2KRO...this game is so low APM lol), 62g ergo clear, 62g lubed blacks.
Played a few norms with a 55g Topre and did fine. As long as you know how to use the switch you have, you'll be fine. That being said, from a switch design perspective, blues are garbage for gaming but any other switch will work (I love blues, but just look at how they're designed...no way was this made with gaming in mind).
I recommend trying panda clears or ghost blacks.
I'm starting to realize that Ghost Blacks (black stem, clear spring) is the best for 90% of gaming. Recommend everyone to try gaming for 3-5 hours on ghost blacks before judging and dismissing.
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Topre
has less lifespan than Cherry MX
Do the Maths: At either 20 millions or 50 millions strokes before a key fails, there's more chance something else will have broken by then.
As for the choice of switches, just try to decide the one you would prefer to use. And don't think your keyboard will increase your skill. You won't be better but you should still enjoy more using your keyboard if it's a good one.
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Do the Maths: At either 20 millions or 50 millions strokes before a key fails, there's more chance something else will have broken by then.
Precisely. Besides with thorpies, the silicone will split before the actual spring wears out. With a Cherry you just de-solder/remove the older worn out switch with a newer model and hey presto, you're back in the game :thumb: .
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I used to play League with a Razer rubber dome one-hand-keypad thingy, and that was definitely NOT okay. If I missed slightly and pressed a key too far from the centre it would sometimes stick and not actuate. Not all the time, but often enough that I wouldn't want to go back to using one. I've had no issues with any of the mechanical switches I've played with.
yup mustve been the dome keyboard because I was diamond 1 in season 3 and I got there with ****ty microsoft dome keyboard
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... guys you're supposed to say TOPRE isn't a cherry mx switch.
Geez.
Plz read the OP.
In all seriousness, reds are the best MX switch for gaming.
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For me it's cherry Brown, definitively not green for gaming it's too heavy to be reactive
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I used to play League with a Razer rubber dome one-hand-keypad thingy, and that was definitely NOT okay. If I missed slightly and pressed a key too far from the centre it would sometimes stick and not actuate. Not all the time, but often enough that I wouldn't want to go back to using one. I've had no issues with any of the mechanical switches I've played with.
yup mustve been the dome keyboard because I was diamond 1 in season 3 and I got there with ****ty microsoft dome keyboard
Well obviously you would have been diamond if you had a real keyboard.
I bet your mouse isn't 100 bucks either, so Bing-Bing-Bing!
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Whatever you use isn't going to magically make you a better player. That being said, I like gaming on clears.
Not true. With my new uber l33t razer switches, I've gone from a total n00b to a professional gamer
LMAO
On a serious note: with consumers and gamers becoming more knowledgeable about Cherry MX and mechanical switches, why would they switch (no pun intended) to a knock off? This is why I will only buy Razer mice and nothing else from them.
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Hate brown for gaming. Either go linear or go clicky.
I'd actually recommend reds, but what do I know :P
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It really doesn't matter. Get the switch that you think you'll enjoy typing on the most.
I agree, I've played quite a lot of League at a moderate level (high-silver, gold nearly!) and I've used all sorts of switches. Blues were fine, Reds were nice (maybe a little better for playing, but since I'm used to Blues I like them more), and now I use Topre. Most of my champions are pretty mechanically difficult (lots of Zed mostly), but it's not like you're ever going to be pressing switches at StarCraft speed, just in short combinations, so anything was fine for me. I just recommend you use whatever feels best, sorry that it's so unhelpful!
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Buy a switch tester. It includes different type of switches. (http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3900/acc24/products/659/images/3805/Tester_05__36815.1383751830.1280.1280.jpg?c=2)
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I used to play League with a Razer rubber dome one-hand-keypad thingy, and that was definitely NOT okay. If I missed slightly and pressed a key too far from the centre it would sometimes stick and not actuate. Not all the time, but often enough that I wouldn't want to go back to using one. I've had no issues with any of the mechanical switches I've played with.
yup mustve been the dome keyboard because I was diamond 1 in season 3 and I got there with ****ty microsoft dome keyboard
That's... nice for you. I had issues with one particular device, I was just relating my experience.
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I am using topre and I was diamond last season.
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If you buy an HHKB type S and a proper mouse you'll be 95 percentile in no time.
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I play league with blue switches, but I'm only gold ranked. I feel like it's a good in-between for everyday typing and gaming.
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Clearly blue is for plebes. Get a type s today