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Title: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:12:54
Holy crap. This is probably the best typing experience I've ever had. It's hard to describe, but it's sooooo smooth and sexy on my fingertips. I used to think that I really wouldn't like the sound of silenced Topres, but this is just so good.

If you're on the fence, do it. I can't recommend it highly enough.

Bands I used here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141017868936?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141017868936?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:15:37
Holy crap. This is probably the best typing experience I've ever had. It's hard to describe, but it's sooooo smooth and sexy on my fingertips. I used to think that I really wouldn't like the sound of silenced Topres, but this is just so good.

If you're on the fence, do it. I can't recommend it highly enough.

Bands I used here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141017868936?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141017868936?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)
Good to know!  I've seen some who like the mod on the hhkb, and some who don't.  Is the travel altered at all like it is slightly on bottom row of the hhkb?
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:18:26
I can't notice any travel distance difference at all, personally. Some people might be more sensitive to that than I am, but to me it's just Topre goodness without any high pitched clack on the rebound.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:19:29
I can't notice any travel distance difference at all, personally. Some people might be more sensitive to that than I am, but to me it's just Topre goodness without any high pitched clack on the rebound.
that's awesome, i'll definitely have to try the mod out should I ever pick up a 660c, thanks so much for sharing your experience!
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Rafen on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:24:49
Thanks a lot! I might try this to the HHKB I just ordered and if I like it might end up doing it to the Realforce I'm typing on.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:25:48
I really like the dental bands, too. Mine are some of the plain beige ones left over from my daughter's braces.

I wish that there was real information available on long-term durability.

They are thinner and softer than the thinnest O-rings I have tried, and I consider that to be a good thing. But I have only tried them on black and blue Cherry switches.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:27:36
Yeah, I wasn't a fan at all of the O-rings I tried on my previous Cherry boards. There's something about the way a Topre dome collapses that makes the soft landing pleasant. But on a Cherry board, it felt really, really weird.

I might try the super soft O-rings on the Code board though.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: OnTheBrink on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:01:06
I have my 660C in the mail. Is there a guide to install them or they go on just like the O-Rings for Cherry?

I know the landing pad mod that reduced the clack from the key upstroke needed to be modded by taking apart the board.

Does this mod reduce the same sound?
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:12:52
I have my 660C in the mail. Is there a guide to install them or they go on just like the O-Rings for Cherry?

I know the landing pad mod that reduced the clack from the key upstroke needed to be modded by taking apart the board.

Does this mod reduce the same sound?

That is this mod, yes. You don't need to worry about the downstroke on Topres since the plunger lands on top of the cup. This reduces the clack of the upstroke, and requires removing quite a few screws.

I followed this (http://imgur.com/a/duUmk) guide (yeah, Ri**ter, I know...). The only trick is popping the plungers out. I used a small flathead screwdriver and just pushed down on the inside of the plunger until it popped out.

Then you just wrap the bands around the stem of the plunger, and pull them down until their around the base of the stem. Pop the plungers back in, put it back together and you're good to go.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: OnTheBrink on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:41:10
I have my 660C in the mail. Is there a guide to install them or they go on just like the O-Rings for Cherry?

I know the landing pad mod that reduced the clack from the key upstroke needed to be modded by taking apart the board.

Does this mod reduce the same sound?

That is this mod, yes. You don't need to worry about the downstroke on Topres since the plunger lands on top of the cup. This reduces the clack of the upstroke, and requires removing quite a few screws.

I followed this (http://imgur.com/a/duUmk) guide (yeah, Ri**ter, I know...). The only trick is popping the plungers out. I used a small flathead screwdriver and just pushed down on the inside of the plunger until it popped out.

Then you just wrap the bands around the stem of the plunger, and pull them down until their around the base of the stem. Pop the plungers back in, put it back together and you're good to go.

Oh boy. that guide makes me very nervous. However, all I hear are amazing things about the mod. This obviously voids the warranty, correct?
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:06:06
daerid, i think this thread warrants a typing video!
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:08:18
excellent, I'm going to put this on my 30g and see what happens.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:28:30
daerid, i think this thread warrants a typing video!

Apologies for the potato video (shot with an iPhone 5S):


It's probably a manifestation of the way the mic picks up the sound, but the actual sound is much softer and smoother than what it sounds like in this video.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:41:12
daerid, i think this thread warrants a typing video!

Apologies for the potato video (shot with an iPhone 5S):


It's probably a manifestation of the way the mic picks up the sound, but the actual sound is much softer and smoother than what it sounds like in this video.
It sounds wonderful, thanks for taking the time to post one!  ;D
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:28:20
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:37:22
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)

What? Are you kidding?

Key caps look almost exactly like molars.

Imagine how cool a set of "dental" keycaps would be!
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: OnTheBrink on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:51:40
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)

What? Are you kidding?

Key caps look almost exactly like molars.

Imagine how cool a set of "dental" keycaps would be!

This thread officially got weird lol.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:53:32
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)

What? Are you kidding?

Key caps look almost exactly like molars.

Imagine how cool a set of "dental" keycaps would be!

http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key (http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key)
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:15:19
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)

What? Are you kidding?

Key caps look almost exactly like molars.
 
Imagine how cool a set of "dental" keycaps would be!

http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key (http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key)

If I saw an entire board covered in those, I'd probably get really creeped out.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Novus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:46:46
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)

What? Are you kidding?

Key caps look almost exactly like molars.
 
Imagine how cool a set of "dental" keycaps would be!

http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key (http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key)

If I saw an entire board covered in those, I'd probably get really creeped out.

Great post!

Yea.
It'd make me overly conscious about dental/oral hygiene.
Then I'd brush my teeth over my keyboard and ruin it :/
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: nobee on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:19:46
daerid, i think this thread warrants a typing video!

Apologies for the potato video (shot with an iPhone 5S):


It's probably a manifestation of the way the mic picks up the sound, but the actual sound is much softer and smoother than what it sounds like in this video.

Wow, very nice. No annoying upstroke 'clack'!
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:21:21
Dental bands, denture tabs ... who knew that dentistry was so closely interwoven with keyboards ;)

What? Are you kidding?

Key caps look almost exactly like molars.
 
Imagine how cool a set of "dental" keycaps would be!

http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key (http://techkeys.us/collections/artisan/products/molar-key)

If I saw an entire board covered in those, I'd probably get really creeped out.

Great post!

Yea.
It'd make me overly conscious about dental/oral hygiene.
Then I'd brush my teeth over my keyboard and ruin it :/

It would make cleaning keycaps a little bit easier :))
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: Dyslexic on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:32:45
Can confirm, dental banded and krytox lubed my FC660C a couple weeks ago, it's bliss.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: laffindude on Mon, 12 May 2014, 21:53:24
Apologies for the potato video (shot with an iPhone 5S):


It's probably a manifestation of the way the mic picks up the sound, but the actual sound is much softer and smoother than what it sounds like in this video.

Is that a dye-sub version? I have one on the desk as well. I been using MX reds so much. This is heeeaavy ;(
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Mon, 12 May 2014, 22:37:30
Yes, that's the dye sub version.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: laffindude on Mon, 12 May 2014, 23:07:08
Nice. I have a squeaky case lasered version as well ;o
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: redskull on Mon, 12 May 2014, 23:19:20
glad you enjoyed your silencing mod daerid. i did mine before and i did not really like the difference in key travel those rings caused.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: SonOfSonOfSpock on Mon, 12 May 2014, 23:31:31
I got a good laugh out of this thread from the teeth/dental jokes.
Title: Re: [Topre owners] Just dental banded my 660C
Post by: daerid on Tue, 13 May 2014, 17:05:37
Update:

Just finished doing this to my 55g 87U. I can definitely feel the key shortened key travel on this, although, in a way it's increased the tactility slightly. Still feels soft an buttery smooth. I don't think it's going to be a deal breaker for me, as I prefer shorter throw switches generally. There's huge difference in noise though. Super, super quiet. The 660C still thocks louder though. I'll try to get a video of the 55g 87U up soon.

*EDIT*

Okay this is driving me insane. Taking it off the RF...