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Title: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: roaming pear on Wed, 14 May 2014, 00:00:20
Is the Poker 2 the only keyboard that has the PN key?
This is an amazing key......
But I haven't seen any other keyboards use such a programmable button..
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: spiceBar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 00:17:03
Is the Poker 2 the only keyboard that has the PN key?
This is an amazing key......
But I haven't seen any other keyboards use such a programmable button..

Poker Pure PRO and Ducky Mini also have it. I'm pretty sure the Pure PRO has the same controller as the Poker 2, as I own both. I'm not sure about the Ducky Mini, but it's probably the same.

Please note that the Poker PURE is not programmable. Only the Pure PRO is.

Here is a nice way to use the programming feature of the Poker 2:
  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.msg1313182#msg1313182
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:20:48
Is the Poker 2 the only keyboard that has the PN key?
This is an amazing key......
But I haven't seen any other keyboards use such a programmable button..

Poker Pure PRO and Ducky Mini also have it. I'm pretty sure the Pure PRO has the same controller as the Poker 2, as I own both. I'm not sure about the Ducky Mini, but it's probably the same.

Please note that the Poker PURE is not programmable. Only the Pure PRO is.

Here is a nice way to use the programming feature of the Poker 2:
  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.msg1313182#msg1313182

I think you meant KBT Pure Pro. KBT is the manufacturer, Poker is a model like Pure and Pure Pro. The Poker 2 and Pure Pro programmable feature is really cool, makes them REALLY flexible in terms of character layout. The Poker 2 has more aftermarket keycap options, though, since it has a standard ANSI layout.
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:21:18
Race 2 has one.
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: spiceBar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:35:43
Is the Poker 2 the only keyboard that has the PN key?
This is an amazing key......
But I haven't seen any other keyboards use such a programmable button..

Poker Pure PRO and Ducky Mini also have it. I'm pretty sure the Pure PRO has the same controller as the Poker 2, as I own both. I'm not sure about the Ducky Mini, but it's probably the same.

Please note that the Poker PURE is not programmable. Only the Pure PRO is.

Here is a nice way to use the programming feature of the Poker 2:
  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.msg1313182#msg1313182

I think you meant KBT Pure Pro. KBT is the manufacturer, Poker is a model like Pure and Pure Pro. The Poker 2 and Pure Pro programmable feature is really cool, makes them REALLY flexible in terms of character layout. The Poker 2 has more aftermarket keycap options, though, since it has a standard ANSI layout.

Yes, you are correct, it's KBT Pure Pro, not Poker.
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: roaming pear on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:32
Is the Poker 2 the only keyboard that has the PN key?
This is an amazing key......
But I haven't seen any other keyboards use such a programmable button..

Poker Pure PRO and Ducky Mini also have it. I'm pretty sure the Pure PRO has the same controller as the Poker 2, as I own both. I'm not sure about the Ducky Mini, but it's probably the same.

Please note that the Poker PURE is not programmable. Only the Pure PRO is.

Here is a nice way to use the programming feature of the Poker 2:
  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.msg1313182#msg1313182 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.msg1313182#msg1313182)

I think you meant KBT Pure Pro. KBT is the manufacturer, Poker is a model like Pure and Pure Pro. The Poker 2 and Pure Pro programmable feature is really cool, makes them REALLY flexible in terms of character layout. The Poker 2 has more aftermarket keycap options, though, since it has a standard ANSI layout.

I had already used deskthority's wiki on the poker 2 to program it, but I think the page you link to might have some info that wasn't there or wasn't clearly written. Thanks  ^_^
I love the PN key...



What does PN stand for anyway?
I assume FN is function... but how about PN? Punction?

Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: YummyTreeSap on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:33:49
Progranning.
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 14 May 2014, 14:34:19
My Ducky mini has it :)
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 May 2014, 15:05:08
What does PN stand for anyway?
I assume FN is function... but how about PN? Punction?

Like so many things with keyboards, the origin is in the distant past of computing, and is often forgotten in the modern use.

Keyboards have had Function keys for the longest time.  In modern use they are fairly generic but they were mostly application specific in the old days.  PC keyboards had F1 through F12, but other systems had more (F24, etc.).  "Fn" just refers to the scheme of calling them F with a number.  'N' = number

In addition to the dedicated, application-specific Fn keys, many systems had programmable function keys, PF1, PF2, PF3, etc.  Those keys could be programmed to extended characters or combination keystrokes and they were used extensively in point of sale systems, banking systems, booking systems, and the like.  They usually had the same numbering scheme.

So, "Fn" is an obvious shorthand for "Function", and "Pn" follows for "Programmable Function". 

These modern boards seem to use "Pn" for programming even though they don't have any PFn keys.
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: roaming pear on Wed, 14 May 2014, 15:32:15
I see.  Thank you for that info. ^_^
Title: Re: Keyboards with the PN key
Post by: Grendel on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:21:24
The new Deck boards have one. Although no PN-lock IIRC.