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Title: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:02:44: We've been having some interesting weather events this year. You think they may have been caused by an increase in atmospheric CO2 levels caused by mankind burning more fossil fuels? The absorption spectrum of CO2 indicates that it is a good absorber of infra-red radiation that leaves the Earth's surface.

So, do you think that mankind's recent activities have been warming the planet? Or will they cool the planet? What effects would it have on your life?
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:03:46: The climate of geekhack is changing very rapidly. Say the wrong thing, and your post is deleted or your thread is locked.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:04:06: inb4 lock

regardless of if we have changed the climate it can't just be undone the cycle has started now where it goes nobody knows
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:04:46: Trollfest 2014
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:04:54: BACK ON TOPIC! Spewing hot air out of your mouths is not enough to change the climate of the entire planet.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:09:02: Fiction. Climate change is not real.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:09:24: Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:09:02
Fiction. Climate change is not real.

Prove it.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:10:18: Shhh... the mods are watching.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:11:09: Don't worry....once the Earth warms up enough, the rise in sea level will flood out their computer stations. Being one who lives on the top of a hill, I will prevail!
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:11:25: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:10:18
Shhh... the mods are watching.

They ain't going to do jack ****.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:12:15: Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:11:25
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:10:18
Shhh... the mods are watching.

They ain't going to do jack ****.

They fell for my false sense of concern. I was actually making them leave.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:14:48: The planet is running a fever. Perhaps it is trying to kill off the virus that is stripping it of life (us). Things will cool down once the invader has been reduced or eliminated.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: JPG on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:14:58: Climate is changing. It's for sure changing because of humans. For sure, climate would change over time anyway, but for sure humans have an impact on climate right now. And global warming does not mean it will be more hot all the time. It means it will change the weather globally and with more entropy comes more extremes.

Ignoring it is pointless. We all know that there will be too much political pressure for humans to change their behavior before it starts to cost so much that we have no choice but to change. It will be way too late by that time. In some way, it's probably too late already.

The fun/sad part of it is that the Earth will get better at some point probably. This global heating is nothing compared to some era where the Earth was covered with volcano. But human kind will face some huge challenges in the years/centuries coming because of the climatic changes and the lack of resources as we know them today, combined with over population.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:15:20: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:12:15
Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:11:25
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:10:18
Shhh... the mods are watching.

They ain't going to do jack ****.

They fell for my false sense of concern. I was actually making them leave.

I was going to say even the EPA accomplishes more than the mods here.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:23:08: Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:15:20
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:12:15
Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:11:25
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:10:18
Shhh... the mods are watching.

They ain't going to do jack ****.

They fell for my false sense of concern. I was actually making them leave.

I was going to say even the EPA accomplishes more than the mods here.

If by accomplishments you mean annoying people, then I guess you're right.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:34:52: Are you f*cking serious?

Do you have to muck up a good forum with troll-fests like this?
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:42:41: Well, no one ever actually HAS to do anything, but he really wants to make these ****ing threads for sure.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:43:23: Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:34:52
Are you f*cking serious?

Do you have to muck up a good forum with troll-fests like this?

I am serious. Climate change is serious. You need to learn about the issue and take steps before it's too late!
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Malphas on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:46:42: Whether people believe in human activity caused climate change or not seems to depend more on political persuasion more than logic or reason. The reality is lay people don't have the first clue. It's not because they're stupid (well in some cases it is) but because to actually develop a reasoned conclusion requires far more effort and investment than an individual is willing to commit to. So basically the only people who have valuable opinions regarding climate change are those who do it for living, and spend the thousands of hours reading incredibly boring studies when they're released, and who actually have the background and specific education to properly analyse that information.

You have to be pretty naive to think you can just read a scientific explanation and draw a reasonable conclusion (regardless of whether it's pro or negative). To put it as another example; I have a fairly reasonable although basic idea of how atomic theory works, the explanation makes sense to me, but for all I know it could be complete horse**** because I don't have the resources or inclination to verify it for myself. The exact same is true of climate change theories, whichever way you go on the issue, what you're doing is putting your trust into relevant camp. You don't actually have a legitimate understanding of it yourself, even if you think you do.

So essentially it boils down to who you believe - the overwhelming majority of the scientific community, or the minority who claim otherwise.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:49:13: Sorry but when I asked the planets what they thought about climate change they said not to worry about it as Jesus is due soon and will save us all.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:57:02: These are my favorite threads. They get the most entertaining responses as people try to avoid seriousness. And then those that take things too seriously. The off-topic is my favorite place on this forum.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:58:13: Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:57:02

These are my favorite threads. They get the most entertaining responses as people try to avoid seriousness. And then those that take things too seriously. The off-topic is my favorite place on this forum.

I agree.

[insert Spock butthurt meme here]
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:58:18: Quote from: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:43:23
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:34:52
Are you f*cking serious?

Do you have to muck up a good forum with troll-fests like this?

I am serious. Climate change is serious. You need to learn about the issue and take steps before it's too late!

Climate change is not real.
You god damn liberal.

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:58:13
Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:57:02

These are my favorite threads. They get the most entertaining responses as people try to avoid seriousness. And then those that take things too seriously. The off-topic is my favorite place on this forum.

I agree.

[insert Spock butthurt meme here]

What level of butthurt are we taking here?
TOS?
TNG?
ABRAMS?
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Malphas on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:58:42: ;)
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: vasconqs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 15:01:27: Climate change is real, judging by the shear number or troll sightings which are no longer confined to Nordic landscapes.
(http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/61-trollhunter.jpg?itok=E1EEOgfg)
In view of this fact however, I foresee a decrease in temperature, which will render the whole planet a frozen hell scape filled with warring troll factions.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 15:02:53: Quote from: vasconqs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 15:01:27
Climate change is real, judging by the shear number or troll sightings which are no longer confined to Nordic landscapes.
Show Image
(http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/61-trollhunter.jpg?itok=E1EEOgfg)

In view of this fact however, I foresee a decrease in temperature, which will render the whole planet a frozen hell scape filled with warring troll factions.

Where the **** do you live?
That's already happened.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 15:03:36: Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:58:18
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:58:13
Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:57:02

These are my favorite threads. They get the most entertaining responses as people try to avoid seriousness. And then those that take things too seriously. The off-topic is my favorite place on this forum.

I agree.

[insert Spock butthurt meme here]

What level of butthurt are we taking here?
TOS?
TNG?
ABRAMS?

ALL OF THE ABOVE!
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:23:51: The world is flat and the centre of the universe! I have never seen the world curve from anywhere I have been.
The idea that the world would be a spheroid revolving around the sun is just a theory, anyway and should be treated as such. I am sick and tired of these so called "astronomers" getting all the attention without any globe-sceptics ever being invited to challenge them.

Yeah yeah, I have also seen the photos of the world taken during the moon landings. It looks like the world is round, but that is because it is a round disc, stupid! Why can't people get that into their heads!?
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:30:03: Quote from: Findecanor on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:23:51
The world is flat and the centre of the universe! I have never seen the world curve from anywhere I have been.
The idea that the world would be a spheroid revolving around the sun is just a theory, anyway and should be treated as such. I am sick and tired of these so called "astronomers" getting all the attention without any globe-sceptics ever being invited to challenge them.

Yeah yeah, I have also seen the photos of the world taken during the moon landings. It looks like the world is round, but that is because it is a round disc, stupid! Why can't people get that into their heads!?
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Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:34:49: Quote from: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:43:23
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:34:52
Are you f*cking serious?

Do you have to muck up a good forum with troll-fests like this?

I am serious. Climate change is serious. You need to learn about the issue and take steps before it's too late!

It is already too late.

Humans are destroying this planet.

It is the only one they have.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Novus on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:40:05: Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:34:49
Quote from: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:43:23
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 14:34:52
Are you f*cking serious?

Do you have to muck up a good forum with troll-fests like this?

I am serious. Climate change is serious. You need to learn about the issue and take steps before it's too late!

It is already too late.

Humans are destroying this planet.

It is the only one they have.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:18:39: Guess it's time to colonize deep space.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:24:11: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:18:39
Guess it's time to colonize deep space.

Mars would be the next best place, followed by Titan and Europa :thumb: . Can't wait for the holiday trips out to those places in the next few years.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:39:16: Quote from: Elrick on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:24:11
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:18:39
Guess it's time to colonize deep space.

Mars would be the next best place, followed by Titan and Europa :thumb: . Can't wait for the holiday trips out to those places in the next few years.

None of those have proper atmosphere, and the human race is nowhere near mature enough to live in domes happily together.
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:20:01: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:18:39
Guess it's time to colonize deep space.
Yeah, that sounds like the cheapest, most effective solution ...
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:20:32: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:18:39
Guess it's time to colonize deep space.

I wana get so deep
Title: Re: Climate Change: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:29:43: Quote from: the1onewolf on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:30:03
Quote from: Findecanor on Thu, 15 May 2014, 19:23:51
The world is flat and the centre of the universe! I have never seen the world curve from anywhere I have been.
The idea that the world would be a spheroid revolving around the sun is just a theory, anyway and should be treated as such. I am sick and tired of these so called "astronomers" getting all the attention without any globe-sceptics ever being invited to challenge them.

Yeah yeah, I have also seen the photos of the world taken during the moon landings. It looks like the world is round, but that is because it is a round disc, stupid! Why can't people get that into their heads!?
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Off topic- Your avatar of River Song inspiredness is inspiring. It's fun to go back to Silence in the Library after watching up current to pick out things.

On topic - I'm surprised no one has linked that new Last Week Tonight skit yet.