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Title: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:31:41
Anybody have this set and can comment on the quality? It looks like they're ABS doubleshot, but it says nothing about the thickness.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:34:41
They're GMK caps, so they're thick Cherry doubleshot caps. The white is doubleshot on the black. The red is pad printed, then the cap is covered with a layer of protection. I've never used them, so I can't speak to the protection, but Cherry doubleshots are the best, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:34:49
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:31:41
Anybody have this set and can comment on the quality? It looks like they're ABS doubleshot, but it says nothing about the thickness.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic

I just placed an order for them this morning. I believe they are the same thickness as all other doubleshot GMK caps, which is to say, quite thick. So everything you read about thickness/quality of GMK caps will apply to them. Other than that, the main variable is the Cyrillic pad printing + clear coat. From what I have read, the clear coat makes the caps feel as if they were slightly shiny, but is quite effective and will preserve the pad printing for years.

I can post photos and more commentary when I receive the caps next week.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:38:00
Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:34:49
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:31:41
Anybody have this set and can comment on the quality? It looks like they're ABS doubleshot, but it says nothing about the thickness.

http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic

I just placed an order for them this morning. I believe they are the same thickness as all other doubleshot GMK caps, which is to say, quite thick. So everything you read about thickness/quality of GMK caps will apply to them. Other than that, the main variable is the Cyrillic pad printing + clear coat. From what I have read, the clear coat makes the caps feel as if they were slightly shiny, but is quite effective and will preserve the pad printing for years.

I can post photos and more commentary when I receive the caps next week.
Awesome, please do post pics and comments when they arrive. I'm strongly considering buying a set, but I hate shiny caps with a passion.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:41:50
The clear coat makes keycaps feel different. A tiny bit more grippy. Not shiny though.. They still have a texture to them.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:44:24
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:38:00
Awesome, please do post pics and comments when they arrive. I'm strongly considering buying a set, but I hate shiny caps with a passion.

No problem. I don't like shiny looking/feeling caps either and I try to stick to all PBT when possible. However, the Originative Cyrillic set just looks a lot nicer than Imsto's PBT winkey set (http://i.imgur.com/6jce9h1.jpg) (it's so blindingly white and plain, as compared to hellgrau). Imsto's current cyrillic GB is super awesome and I may get it too, but no 1.25x mods = not nice.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:46:00
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:41:50
The clear coat makes keycaps feel different. A tiny bit more grippy. Not shiny though.. They still have a texture to them.

Interesting, thanks for the info. If you have a set, would you mind posting some pics? Also, does the clear coat cover the entire keycap surface or just the printing?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:47:39
Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:46:00
Interesting, thanks for the info. If you have a set, would you mind posting some pics? Also, does the clear coat cover the entire keycap surface or just the printing?

I can't speak for GMK pad printing (but it's literally the same production) but I can for original cherry pad printing
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1312771#msg1312771
there's a point outlining the appearance

they feel slightly different, but practically the same.

you can definitely feel the glaze. It's not a bad thing but you can tell it's there. still the best feelin' keycaps around
Basically if you weren't told that they were there, you wouldn't notice them

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3802/12512905703_fa3ed28507_o.jpg)

photo of my 5000 where you can see them
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:47:52
Is hellgrau leaning towards light grey, or is it like the classic beige color that cherry replica sets tend to use?

The photos on Originative make it seem like the caps are blindingly white, which I don't like either. I'd ideally like an off-white/beige set, but those are so expensive.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:48:35
The pic last time I checked showed ISO. Is the set ANSI as well?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:49:26
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:47:52
Is hellgrau leaning towards light grey, or is it like the classic beige color that cherry replica sets tend to use?

The photos on Originative make it seem like the caps are blindingly white, which I don't like either. I'd ideally like an off-white/beige set, but those are so expensive.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)

This is 'hellgrau'

All white mods / alphas
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:49:47
Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:48:35
The pic last time I checked showed ISO. Is the set ANSI as well?

It is only ANSI. Although the stock pic shows ISO, there is a note that ISO isn't actually available.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:52:37
I don't have one of these cyrillic sets. I do, however, have a mint 5000HAMPO in front of me that has a few pad printed keys that have a clear coat.

Here's a macro shot of one of those keys. (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3781/13696313055_25486e12e3_o.jpg)

The clear coat is done in a square covering most of the top surface of the keycap. It will be the same on those cyrillic keys. (http://i.imgur.com/RtnCj6c.png)
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:53:28
IMO, shiny Cherry doubleshots feel heavenly. They don't necessarily look as nice as a set that's not shiny, but they feel nice on the fingers.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:48:28
Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:53:28
IMO, shiny Cherry doubleshots feel heavenly. They don't necessarily look as nice as a set that's not shiny, but they feel nice on the fingers.

This man knows what he's talking about right here.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:58:14
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:48:28
Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:53:28
IMO, shiny Cherry doubleshots feel heavenly. They don't necessarily look as nice as a set that's not shiny, but they feel nice on the fingers.

This man knows what he's talking about right here.

Seriously I'm beginning to understand the smoothness as my dolch set starts to shine.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:04:08
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:58:14
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:48:28
Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:53:28
IMO, shiny Cherry doubleshots feel heavenly. They don't necessarily look as nice as a set that's not shiny, but they feel nice on the fingers.

This man knows what he's talking about right here.

Seriously I'm beginning to understand the smoothness as my dolch set starts to shine.

Literally shine? Or figuratively?

You guys have almost convinced me to buy this set. Hoping I'll like it coming from PBT.

Only ABS caps I've used are the WASD sets and the stock caps from my old QFR, and I didn't like either.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:05:01
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:04:08
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:58:14
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:48:28
Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:53:28
IMO, shiny Cherry doubleshots feel heavenly. They don't necessarily look as nice as a set that's not shiny, but they feel nice on the fingers.

This man knows what he's talking about right here.

Seriously I'm beginning to understand the smoothness as my dolch set starts to shine.

Literally shine? Or figuratively?

You guys have almost convinced me to buy this set. Hoping I'll like it coming from PBT.

Only ABS caps I've used are the WASD sets and the stock caps from my old QFR, and I didn't like either.

literally...ABS shines you know, I've been using them everyday for 8-10hrs for a while now
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:05:45
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:05:01
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:04:08
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:58:14
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 May 2014, 22:48:28
Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:53:28
IMO, shiny Cherry doubleshots feel heavenly. They don't necessarily look as nice as a set that's not shiny, but they feel nice on the fingers.

This man knows what he's talking about right here.

Seriously I'm beginning to understand the smoothness as my dolch set starts to shine.

Literally shine? Or figuratively?

You guys have almost convinced me to buy this set. Hoping I'll like it coming from PBT.

Only ABS caps I've used are the WASD sets and the stock caps from my old QFR, and I didn't like either.

literally...ABS shines you know, I've been using them everyday for 8-10hrs for a while now

So does PBT and pretty much everything else after a while
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:26:21
How long has this set been out??? I would love one, but I needs that winkeyless set... :/
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:34:27
Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 15 May 2014, 23:26:21
How long has this set been out??? I would love one, but I needs that winkeyless set... :/

A month I think
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)

There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:49:26
Show Image
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)


This is 'hellgrau'

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)

Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:49:23
Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)


There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:49:26
Show Image
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)


This is 'hellgrau'

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)

Those are pretty sweet. It's hard to pass on anything GMK but I'm holding out for dolch.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Mon, 19 May 2014, 19:28:41
Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)


There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)


That looks really fantastic....excited to get mine. Was hoping I'd get shipping info today but I guess not....I'm in WA though so it should be pretty quick shipping from Monterey, CA.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 19 May 2014, 19:48:27
Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)


There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 15 May 2014, 20:49:26
Show Image
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/716/rnk4.jpg)


This is 'hellgrau'

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)


Oh wow that's really fast! I was thinking of getting the charred orange set from them
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 20 May 2014, 07:17:10
can someone confirm me , does the cryllic set has the 1x "0" keycap in it?
I know it doesn't say it has one, but just in case since something similar happen with the ISO
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: HipsterPunks on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:42:13
love it! however i wish i ordered the IMSTO first, those dyestubs just looks so much better than the glazed GMK, but i love GMK's mods  :-\
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 20 May 2014, 12:57:36
they need to restock the black blanks
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 13:18:39
Quote from: jokrik on Tue, 20 May 2014, 07:17:10
can someone confirm me , does the cryllic set has the 1x "0" keycap in it?
I know it doesn't say it has one, but just in case since something similar happen with the ISO

Sorry, it does not.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:25:55
Quote from: HipsterPunks on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:42:13
love it! however i wish i ordered the IMSTO first, those dyestubs just looks so much better than the glazed GMK, but i love GMK's mods  :-\

You've compared the two side by side?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:35:51
Quote from: anoxy on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:25:55
Quote from: HipsterPunks on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:42:13
love it! however i wish i ordered the IMSTO first, those dyestubs just looks so much better than the glazed GMK, but i love GMK's mods  :-\

You've compared the two side by side?

I haven't seen the glazed personally but GMK legends are usually more crisp compared to IMSTO's. imo of course.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: HipsterPunks on Tue, 20 May 2014, 23:29:04
Quote from: anoxy on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:25:55
Quote from: HipsterPunks on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:42:13
love it! however i wish i ordered the IMSTO first, those dyestubs just looks so much better than the glazed GMK, but i love GMK's mods  :-\

You've compared the two side by side?

A bunch of people compared our different sets (1 GMK and 1 IMSTO) in the what did you get in the mail thread last month when the Orginative sets started shipping out. Ill try and dig up the page on break, working right now.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 May 2014, 22:45:36
Quote from: anoxy on Mon, 19 May 2014, 19:28:41
Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)


There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)


That looks really fantastic....excited to get mine. Was hoping I'd get shipping info today but I guess not....I'm in WA though so it should be pretty quick shipping from Monterey, CA.

Have you heard back from Sherry yet? You ordered some sets right?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 22:47:34
Quote from: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 May 2014, 22:45:36
Quote from: anoxy on Mon, 19 May 2014, 19:28:41
Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)


There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)


That looks really fantastic....excited to get mine. Was hoping I'd get shipping info today but I guess not....I'm in WA though so it should be pretty quick shipping from Monterey, CA.

Have you heard back from Sherry yet? You ordered some sets right?

No dice. Placed the order on Sunday and haven't heard anything. I think I';; give it one more day and then contact them.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 May 2014, 23:23:50
Quote from: anoxy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 22:47:34
Quote from: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 May 2014, 22:45:36
Quote from: anoxy on Mon, 19 May 2014, 19:28:41
Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:35:58
I got my caps from Originative today. As expected, same quality and thickness of all GMK doubleshot caps. You can feel the glaze, but just barely. The glazed keys are just slightly rougher than the others. Also, it makes the surface flush -- you don't feel the shape of the pad printing, which is a very nice bonus.

The color is pleasant. Somewhat hard to capture on camera.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VWQuR40.jpg)


There are a lot of variables at play in reproducing the color (lighting, cameras, monitors, etc.) but I'd guess they're pretty much the same as the keyboard Dubsgalore posted earlier.

Also, mine came with two ISO keys only. For a full ISO set, you'd need a 1.25x left shift and another punctuation cap (not sure off the top of my head what it is)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/coInrfr.jpg)


That looks really fantastic....excited to get mine. Was hoping I'd get shipping info today but I guess not....I'm in WA though so it should be pretty quick shipping from Monterey, CA.

Have you heard back from Sherry yet? You ordered some sets right?

No dice. Placed the order on Sunday and haven't heard anything. I think I';; give it one more day and then contact them.
That's a little nerve wracking. Sucks with Sherry because we never know when he's going to flake again. He's got some stuff I want but don't have the money for. Keeping an eye on things.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 21 May 2014, 23:24:47
I emailed sherry about splitting up a set and he responded quite quickly. Sent him a couple other emails, and he responded in less than 5 minutes. So at least he's communicating
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 May 2014, 23:50:57
Yes I've gotten multiple responses from him in emails as well.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:53:31
Just an update for anyone who was wondering about my recent orders from Originative.

I e-mailed him last night and he got back to me this morning:

"I am absolutely sorry about that. There were some fraudulent orders recently, and I thought they were yours. I am completely sorry, and I will have that shipped out as soon as tomorrow."

So it looks like everything is gravy. I think he thought my orders were fraudulent because I used two different credit cards with different billing addresses.....in other words my fault.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:01:04
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:53:31
Just an update for anyone who was wondering about my recent orders from Originative.

I e-mailed him last night and he got back to me this morning:

"I am absolutely sorry about that. There were some fraudulent orders recently, and I thought they were yours. I am completely sorry, and I will have that shipped out as soon as tomorrow."

So it looks like everything is gravy. I think he thought my orders were fraudulent because I used two different credit cards with different billing addresses.....in other words my fault.

He's giving that same excuse to others as well....
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:01:45
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:53:31
Just an update for anyone who was wondering about my recent orders from Originative.

I e-mailed him last night and he got back to me this morning:

"I am absolutely sorry about that. There were some fraudulent orders recently, and I thought they were yours. I am completely sorry, and I will have that shipped out as soon as tomorrow."

So it looks like everything is gravy. I think he thought my orders were fraudulent because I used two different credit cards with different billing addresses.....in other words my fault.


Hmm, now I'm starting to get a bad feeling.

- Last month, I ordered from him and had a big episode where he thought my credit card was issued in China. He eventually decided that he had it mixed up with another order.

- When I ordered the KMAC this week, I emailed him a question, and he responded that my credit card "may have been through a fraud." I offered to pay another way, and he said it wouldn't be necessary.

- I placed another order shortly thereafter for the Cyrillic extras he recently posted. I paid through Bitcoin this time to avoid more credit card BS. What do you know, he tells me yesterday that the order "failed" even though Bitpay has my money.

I followed up about both of these issues yesterday, and he did not get back to me this morning, even to tell me when the KMAC will ship (I've been asking him about it).

Riiiight... how can he have THIS much trouble processing orders?

Even though I've had 5+ successful orders from him this year, he is starting to get very flaky.  :confused:
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:16:31
Well shoot. I wonder if it would be inappropriate to mention some of this to him in an e-mail? This is rather disconcerting, especially since he now has ~$240 of mine....

I am beginning to dislike this guy, and I don't even know him.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:17:51
Quote from: anoxy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:16:31
Well shoot. I wonder if it would be inappropriate to mention some of this to him in an e-mail? This is rather disconcerting, especially since he now has ~$240 of mine....

I am beginning to dislike this guy, and I don't even know him.

This is why you see so many people warning against ordering from him....and why he no longer has a vendor forum here.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:23:50
I sent him another email requesting an update. I am hoping he'll respond and just get the stuff shipped out.

I stood up for him when I suggested he be notified about the vendor review. Since he'd processed all my stuff without a problem, I thought he may have been turning over a new leaf.

The flaky communication combined with all the talk about fraud and failed orders does not put the mind at ease...
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:25:01
OK, he responded super fast this time:


Quote
Hello Aaron,

Your package is ready to ship.
I'm about to head out to USPS.

Regards

Sheraton

Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: t2russo on Thu, 22 May 2014, 15:41:40
I'm not sure it's malicious as much as incompetent.  Everything seems rushed, botched, and generally mucked up, and I'm a strong believe in Hanlon's razor-

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

I've stopped ordering from Originative, even though a black lightsaver is calling my name.  I just don't really want to deal with the hassle should anything go wrong.  I can't recommend anyone order from them, but I can also believe that it's not just a gigantic rip-off outfit.  My belief is that it's a group of people WAY over their head with running a webstore and when push comes to shove, they just take a step back rather than buckling down and powering through things.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 16:00:59
you could always order a lightsaver from OTD and have them proxy it to you

sherry is super shady
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 19:37:21
He might also really be being hit by people placing fraudulent errors to "get back" at him for previous errors and omissions.

He has a lot of bad publicity around GH, and unfortunately a few people seem to want to take matters into their own hands.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 22 May 2014, 19:42:05
I checked out his Facebook page....dude doesn't look shady, but that really doesn't mean anything.

In any case, he's at least responding to e-mails quickly so I'm not super worried. But if he breaks his word and doesn't ship my order tomorrow I'll be elevating my tone of voice a little in the next e-mail  :thumb:
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:08:20
So, did you get a tracking number? My KMAC order apparently shipped out, but he is ignoring my emails about my other order (~$20) for the Cyrillic addons. He said the Bitpay payment "failed" - even though they have my funds - and won't respond to my emails about it. 

So, even if you've had recent successful orders from him, it's no guarantee that he won't randomly flake out.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:14:51
In short, **** this dude. Seriously.

I got a little impatient and this was my latest e-mail to him last night:

"Hi Sheraton,
Can I please get a response to my previous two e-mails? Some form of acknowledgement would be nice. You have nearly 250 of my dollars in your possession and I have no confirmation that you will be shipping my items. I have several people on geekhack.org telling me that you have given them the same excuse of fraudulent payment methods, and this is rather unsettling.

Thank you"


No response yet, so we'll see how it goes. Hopefully my e-mail doesn't just make him want to steal my money even more. But what can I do.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:27:25
Quote from: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:14:51
In short, **** this dude. Seriously.

I got a little impatient and this was my latest e-mail to him last night:

"Hi Sheraton,
Can I please get a response to my previous two e-mails? Some form of acknowledgement would be nice. You have nearly 250 of my dollars in your possession and I have no confirmation that you will be shipping my items. I have several people on geekhack.org telling me that you have given them the same excuse of fraudulent payment methods, and this is rather unsettling.

Thank you"


No response yet, so we'll see how it goes. Hopefully my e-mail doesn't just make him want to steal my money even more. But what can I do.

So you still haven't even got a shipping notice. Jeez Sherry, man this guy is such a flake. Who knows whats really going on but how many "issues" can one guy have?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:43:44
If you wanted a painless purchase you shouldn't have ordered anything from originative :))
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Sykes on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:49:46
x
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:19:33
Quote from: Sykes on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:49:46
I think you sohuld "Deal with it." as u put is nicelly. ; ) Medicine for u.

Why are you following me around everywhere? Are you really that butthurt?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: feizor on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:44:20
Is cyrillic used for typing Russian? Or is it just for aesthetics?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:45:19
Quote from: feizor on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:44:20
Is cyrillic used for typing Russian? Or is it just for aesthetics?
If you speak russian it's used for typing russian. If you don't speak russian it's just aesthetics.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:57:42
Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:45:19
Quote from: feizor on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:44:20
Is cyrillic used for typing Russian? Or is it just for aesthetics?
If you speak russian it's used for typing russian. If you don't speak russian it's just aesthetics.

Why is cyrillic the most wanted set? I doubt there are that many russians, so why cyrillic over arabian or hangul or bopomofo?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 20:02:57
Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:57:42
Why is cyrillic the most wanted set? I doubt there are that many russians, so why cyrillic over arabian or hangul or bopomofo?
I guess people just like how it looks.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 May 2014, 20:15:51
Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 20:02:57
Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:57:42
Why is cyrillic the most wanted set? I doubt there are that many russians, so why cyrillic over arabian or hangul or bopomofo?
I guess people just like how it looks.

I don't know if I'd call it the most wanted either.  It's just the most done since I think people knew about it before some of the others.  As such, it has a kind of following.

Personally, I would kill for a Japanese sublegend like these

(http://i.imgur.com/5s15xKG.jpg)

or like the ones on my IBM keyboard with Alps t-mount switches.  Greek sublegened would be cool too.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 20:32:33
The Cyrillic just adds a nice accent color and design to the normal black legends.

I'd like Hangul as well, but those are more difficult to find.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:47:40
I would kill for a DS hiragana set

or a chinese legend set

or any SEA language other than Korean or Thai
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:49:57
Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:47:40
I would kill for a DS hiragana set

or a chinese legend set

or any SEA language other than Korean or Thai

+1 to chinese

Won't use it but at least its somewhat relevant to me
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:51:44
Gimme an arabic set
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 23:18:40
Quote from: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:51:44
Gimme an arabic set
(http://i.imgur.com/T4x9kVd.jpg)

go find it
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:19:08
I would like Arabic caps too. I studied it for 4 years in college and went through the Middlebury immersion program. :)

Are those caps dye subbed? $_$
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:19:58
Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 23:18:40
Quote from: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:51:44
Gimme an arabic set
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T4x9kVd.jpg)


go find it

arabic all looks like the same swigly lines :confused:
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:22:42
Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:19:58
Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 24 May 2014, 23:18:40
Quote from: anoxy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:51:44
Gimme an arabic set
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T4x9kVd.jpg)


go find it

arabic all looks like the same swigly lines :confused:

Welcome to the world of languages.  They don't make sense if you aren't socialized into them and don't learn them.  I'm sure English looks weird as **** to people who write with, say, the cyrillic alphabet or in Japanese.

Edit:

And Arabic isn't any weirder than, say, the shorthand/stenographer alphabet:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eTyiEm62sQ0/Ug9EiQEGwII/AAAAAAAAKZs/gZCFCsWQfto/s1600/130817-B-long-live-pitmans-shorthand-blogspot-EeZee-Alphabet.jpg)

And yes, that's English.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: t2russo on Sun, 25 May 2014, 12:20:41
I hadn't even thought about asking for a shorthand PBT dyesub set... plus dat blue, beautiful.  It should be mandatory for any squiggly dyesub to get that gorgeous shade.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 25 May 2014, 18:12:19
Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:47:40
I would kill for a DS hiragana set

or a chinese legend set

or any SEA language other than Korean or Thai
+1 for hiragana
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: Kayla on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:43:46
Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 25 May 2014, 18:12:19
Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:47:40
I would kill for a DS hiragana set

or a chinese legend set

or any SEA language other than Korean or Thai
+1 for hiragana
I would be in for this too. +2 for Hiragana. :p
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Tue, 27 May 2014, 21:28:47
I don't know a hint of Japanese, nor do I pretend to be involved in the culture in any way other than watching some Hayao Miyazaki, but I agree that a Hiragana set would look rad.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 27 May 2014, 21:50:53
Quote from: anoxy on Tue, 27 May 2014, 21:28:47
I don't know a hint of Japanese, nor do I pretend to be involved in the culture in any way other than watching some Hayao Miyazaki, but I agree that a Hiragana set would look rad.

So did your stuff ever get shipped? Or did you hear from Sherry?
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: anoxy on Tue, 27 May 2014, 22:07:22
Yep, everything is all good now. Here is the PM I sent intelli78, since he was wondering as well:

I got a few responses this morning and exchanged e-mails with Sheraton. He said "Sorry for troubling you, I will trust you" and sent me a tracking number for my packages. He even combined both orders in to one and refunded me the extra shipping cost, as well as threw in a number pad (whatever that means)...I'm guessing he means like a set of numpad keys, not a full blown number pad, though that would be rad haha.

So hopefully it's all sorted now, USPS says my keysets will be here Thursday. Can't say I'm ready to purchase from his store again, but at least he came around and handled his incompetence respectably.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 27 May 2014, 22:47:47
Quote from: anoxy on Tue, 27 May 2014, 22:07:22
Yep, everything is all good now. Here is the PM I sent intelli78, since he was wondering as well:

I got a few responses this morning and exchanged e-mails with Sheraton. He said "Sorry for troubling you, I will trust you" and sent me a tracking number for my packages. He even combined both orders in to one and refunded me the extra shipping cost, as well as threw in a number pad (whatever that means)...I'm guessing he means like a set of numpad keys, not a full blown number pad, though that would be rad haha.

So hopefully it's all sorted now, USPS says my keysets will be here Thursday. Can't say I'm ready to purchase from his store again, but at least he came around and handled his incompetence respectably.

Thats good to hear. I have been eyeballing an rgb set. Might have to try my luck using paypal.
Title: Re: Originative Cyrillic set
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 28 May 2014, 18:01:46
if he lift 10lbs, he gets 90 flat