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Title: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Reckthor on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:34:47
I'm having an issue with my left shift rubbing on the case on my Filco not allowing it to move freely.

Anyone know a fix for this?

thank you for any help!
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:36:35
that shouldn't happen

did you put the stab inserts on the right way?
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Reckthor on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:37:50
that shouldn't happen

did you put the stab inserts on the right way?

Yes Sir
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:39:30
I'm having an issue with my left shift rubbing on the case on my Filco not allowing it to move freely.

Anyone know a fix for this?

thank you for any help!

Please make sure the Costa inserts were installed properly.
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58608.0;attach=65832;image)
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:39:43
post some pictures, this is quite strange
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Reckthor on Sun, 25 May 2014, 23:13:22
(http://i.imgur.com/JfY0Svcl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ArESAP5l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/g9fwKmzl.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 26 May 2014, 00:03:54
Do the other keys along the left side of the keyboard also rub?
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 26 May 2014, 01:15:09
How soon we all forget. :)

This is a known issue with Filco keyboards and SP keycaps. Sometimes the manufacturing tolerances for both overlap and you end up with a keycap that rubs against the side of the keyboard housing. To fix it, you can try shaving a tiny bit of plastic off the offending keycap, a bit at a time, until it clears the keyboard housing enough to function properly. It's been suggested to do this by sanding with fine grit sandpaper, going slowly, a little bit at a time.
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 26 May 2014, 02:09:06
How soon we all forget. :)

This is a known issue with Filco keyboards and SP keycaps. Sometimes the manufacturing tolerances for both overlap and you end up with a keycap that rubs against the side of the keyboard housing. To fix it, you can try shaving a tiny bit of plastic off the offending keycap, a bit at a time, until it clears the keyboard housing enough to function properly. It's been suggested to do this by sanding with fine grit sandpaper, going slowly, a little bit at a time.

Is this the case for all keycaps along the left side of the keyboard?

The OP's pics only show the left Shift in place.
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Hyde on Tue, 27 May 2014, 16:20:49
How soon we all forget. :)

This is a known issue with Filco keyboards and SP keycaps. Sometimes the manufacturing tolerances for both overlap and you end up with a keycap that rubs against the side of the keyboard housing. To fix it, you can try shaving a tiny bit of plastic off the offending keycap, a bit at a time, until it clears the keyboard housing enough to function properly. It's been suggested to do this by sanding with fine grit sandpaper, going slowly, a little bit at a time.

Is this the case for all keycaps along the left side of the keyboard?

The OP's pics only show the left Shift in place.

What jdcarpe said is correct, it has happened to me before on imsto thick PBT's enter key, also one of the shift on the new Vortex bi-color PBT.

Doesn't always happen, but once in a while if you get unlucky then it does.

Sometimes it rubs against the stabilizer wire, sometimes it rubs against the bottom plastic mount for stabilizers (the one that mount on the steel plate).

In this case you might have to shave off the inside of keycap a little bit, unless you can find a safe way to bend the keycap outwards.

Good luck my friend !
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 27 May 2014, 18:15:35
Sounds more like a Filco problem than a keycap problem, especially if it spans different keycap sets.
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 27 May 2014, 20:28:10
try setting the keycap on a table and seeing if it sits flat or is slightly warped. if it's warped, take a blow dryer to it.
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 27 May 2014, 20:39:21
try setting the keycap on a table and seeing if it sits flat or is slightly warped. if it's warped, take a blow dryer to it.

Looks pretty flat from the pictures.

This would work for a space bar, not so sure about the shorter keys.
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 28 May 2014, 18:18:26
I have the same problem on my Camo. Custom keycaps seem to have this issue with Filcos. I don't have this problem with GMK keycaps, however.
Title: Re: Red Alert left shift filco compatability issue.
Post by: ebacho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 18:30:31
I have the same problem on my Camo. Custom keycaps seem to have this issue with Filcos. I don't have this problem with GMK keycaps, however.

This is my experience too; SP left shift tends to grind against the left wall, while imsto/OG Cherry/GMK is fine.