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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: E TwentyNine on Wed, 28 May 2014, 14:31:10
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-IBM-Model-M-M13-Clicky-Mechanical-Keyboard-13H6705-13H6710-Black-PS-2-/151313549441?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item233afd8881
Nine remaining at the moment. Shipping is $4 for each additional one.
Listed as working with 14 day DOA warranty.
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Necrobump; has anyone here been able to submit an offer that the seller accepted?
If so, how much did you offer?
For what it's worth they've increased it up to $99.99 + $8 shipping.
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Wow, this is still active! It consistently shows 9 left, but now he's sold over 50. I've modified the price in the title.
I have to wonder where there was an office filled with M13's.
Just make a low offer and see what happens...
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Seller accept my $50 offer
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Seller accept my $50 offer
Mine was auto-accepted at $50 as well.
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Got one for $50 here, as well. :thumb:
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M13 Club? ;D
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I need a NIB Black M13 to complete my collection ::)
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I need a NIB Black M13 to complete my collection ::)
You need all 3. A beige, a black, and an industrial. Only my industrial is NIB, but the beige is mint and a few of my blacks are near mint (one may be mint, have to check the keys on them again....).
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Nice! Seller is still accepting $50!
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I need a NIB Black M13 to complete my collection ::)
You need all 3. A beige, a black, and an industrial. Only my industrial is NIB, but the beige is mint and a few of my blacks are near mint (one may be mint, have to check the keys on them again....).
Right... I have a NIB beige and indy but not black :/
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Right... I have a NIB beige and indy but not black :/
Awesome, we should start a club. :P
I'm a little surprised you manged to snag the industrial before finding a NIB black. Is it a Maxiswitch or Unicomp?
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Nobody offer today! I want to see if he takes me up on my $45. :p
I figured I might as well join the club.
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Nobody offer today! I want to see if he takes me up on my $45. :p
Make that two of us.
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I sent an offer of $45, and the seller counter-offered $60. I counter-offered $55 and he accepted.
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I sent an offer of $45, and the seller counter-offered $60. I counter-offered $55 and he accepted.
Same here, he countered with $60 for me too.
I countered with $50, so we'll see.
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I sent an offer of $45, and the seller counter-offered $60. I counter-offered $55 and he accepted.
Same here, he countered with $60 for me too.
I countered with $50, so we'll see.
Here's hoping.
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Mine shipped out today.
Haha I guess they're punishing those that push the envelope too far or they've caught on.
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I sent an offer of $45, and the seller counter-offered $60. I counter-offered $55 and he accepted.
Same here, he countered with $60 for me too.
I countered with $50, so we'll see.
Here's hoping.
he accepted my $50.
Now tell me which of you bought 7?
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Damn. I just grabbed one at the 99 dollar price, didn't even think to give an offer the deal looked so good.
Oh well, it's my first M and I'm a nipple mouse lover! So I guess I'll deal
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The seller just keeps updating the listing to add more inventory....
How many do they have?!?!
Damn. I just grabbed one at the 99 dollar price, didn't even think to give an offer the deal looked so good.
Oh well, it's my first M and I'm a nipple mouse lover! So I guess I'll deal
Think about it like this, you could've paid a whole lot more for a tex yoda for a board with a trackpointer.
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The seller must've found a huge stash in a warehouse.
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Here's one reason why you'd want to buy a black M13:
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$50 seems like a good price (paid mine $95).
The white letters are known to fade quickly so you probably don't want to use such a setup your daily keyboard: mine is hooked to a secondary computer which I don't use very often.
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Right... I have a NIB beige and indy but not black :/
Awesome, we should start a club. :P
I'm a little surprised you manged to snag the industrial before finding a NIB black. Is it a Maxiswitch or Unicomp?
IIRC It's Unicomp, I picked them up from the same guy for super cheap.
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Finally received my boards, and they're all in really good, if not great, shape. The coiled cable on a couple of them is a bit tangled and disheveled, but that's a minor quibble. The boards themselves should look as good as new once they're wiped down.
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Finally received my boards, and they're all in really good, if not great, shape. The coiled cable on a couple of them is a bit tangled and disheveled, but that's a minor quibble. The boards themselves should look as good as new once they're wiped down.
was it you that got 7 of them?
I received mine: looks to be in excellent shape, legends all perfect. Just a little dust (which I don't mind) and the cable was sorta bent: otherwise perfect!
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It's not a bad board to get into Buckling Spring with. Made him an offer. :D
EDIT: Accepted $50. That's a little over €75 including shipping and taxes. Not bad
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Got mine early this morning right before I left for work.
Mine was surprisingly clean and dust free. No shine, looks practically brand new and the coiled part of the cable still had its clear plastic packaging twisty tied on.
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Finally received my boards, and they're all in really good, if not great, shape. The coiled cable on a couple of them is a bit tangled and disheveled, but that's a minor quibble. The boards themselves should look as good as new once they're wiped down.
was it you that got 7 of them?
No, I ended up buying 3 because, at $50 each (well, two of them anyway), I plan on using the caps from two of those to create the color scheme that I wanted for my F-122, and I'll have a complete M13 left over.
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$50 isn't a bad deal for one of those keyboards. How well does the trackpoint work on them?
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$50 isn't a bad deal for one of those keyboards. How well does the trackpoint work on them?
I actually didn't try the trackpoint on mine when I tested them yesterday. Anyone else?
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$50 isn't a bad deal for one of those keyboards. How well does the trackpoint work on them?
I actually didn't try the trackpoint on mine when I tested them yesterday. Anyone else?
As a daily thinkpad user; it's as good as a thinkpad's. Meaning it's a full-fledged IBM trackpoint with force meter to gauge cursor acceleration with how hard you push it.
My only peeve is there's no scroll button. Also, it's a bit stiffer than my thinkpads which helps gauge how fast you want the cursor to move easier imo*.
The trackpoint cap is interchangeable w/ thinkpads so you guys can buy a set of caps off ebay considering the seller does not include the set that would've otherwise came with it new.
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$50 isn't a bad deal for one of those keyboards. How well does the trackpoint work on them?
I actually didn't try the trackpoint on mine when I tested them yesterday. Anyone else?
As a daily thinkpad user; it's as good as a thinkpad's.
It's not. It's good, but not as good as the ones on thinkpads which are later generations of the design.
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$50 isn't a bad deal for one of those keyboards. How well does the trackpoint work on them?
I actually didn't try the trackpoint on mine when I tested them yesterday. Anyone else?
As a daily thinkpad user; it's as good as a thinkpad's.
It's not. It's good, but not as good as the ones on thinkpads which are later generations of the design.
I guess I have offended the cult of thinpad users then. Oops. Death by thinkpad? (it's like stoning but with thinkpads instead)
I was asserting functionality; probably my 2nd part is relevant to what you mean.
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Grabbed one @ $50 :thumb:
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Finally received my boards, and they're all in really good, if not great, shape. The coiled cable on a couple of them is a bit tangled and disheveled, but that's a minor quibble. The boards themselves should look as good as new once they're wiped down.
was it you that got 7 of them?
No, I ended up buying 3 because, at $50 each (well, two of them anyway), I plan on using the caps from two of those to create the color scheme that I wanted for my F-122, and I'll have a complete M13 left over.
I should have got 2.
I was thinking of putting the caps on my F122. Relegendables of course for the extra function keys at the top. Maybe I'll just use it as-is, though.
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$50 isn't a bad deal for one of those keyboards. How well does the trackpoint work on them?
I actually didn't try the trackpoint on mine when I tested them yesterday. Anyone else?
As a daily thinkpad user; it's as good as a thinkpad's.
It's not. It's good, but not as good as the ones on thinkpads which are later generations of the design.
I guess I have offended the cult of thinpad users then. Oops. Death by thinkpad? (it's like stoning but with thinkpads instead)
I was asserting functionality; probably my 2nd part is relevant to what you mean.
Yeah, I gotta agree. It's as good as the one on my 380ED thinkpad, from around the same time period. The ones on my t61p and x220 are way better. But really, the only big problem I have with the trackpoint 2 vs. the trackpoint 3 is that they weren't designed for high resolution monitors. The fastest you can get them to move is just slow as hell by modern standards. Trying to go from one corner of a 1080p monitor to the other on a trackpoint two takes agessssssssssss. I hope noone with a 4k monitor got one of these, lol.
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Finally received my boards, and they're all in really good, if not great, shape. The coiled cable on a couple of them is a bit tangled and disheveled, but that's a minor quibble. The boards themselves should look as good as new once they're wiped down.
was it you that got 7 of them?
No, I ended up buying 3 because, at $50 each (well, two of them anyway), I plan on using the caps from two of those to create the color scheme that I wanted for my F-122, and I'll have a complete M13 left over.
I should have got 2.
He's got some left in stock if you're still interested.
I was thinking of putting the caps on my F122. Relegendables of course for the extra function keys at the top. Maybe I'll just use it as-is, though.
I really love the black and white color scheme on the F-122, myself. My original plan was rather profligate. I was planning to use two of the boards specifically for harvesting their function keys in order to fill out and cover all of the F-122's function rows and the third for the F-row and its modifiers, however I'm finding it difficult to justify pillaging three perfectly good M13's solely for their key caps. They're unique and I'd kind of like to have one that's complete for the collection.
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Weren't these things normally going for 200-300 bucks before? This guy must have found a bunch and just thought he couldn't sell them all for that price. Do you think this will undercut the price of m13s in the future? clickykeyboards.com usually buys bulk m's, I wonder what they would have offered for all his stuff,
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Does the offer $50 included shipping? or $50 + shipping?
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$50 plus shipping. Better hurry, only 3 left now. :)
I'm not saying I just bought 2 more, but I'm not denying that, either.
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$50 plus shipping. Better hurry, only 3 left now. :)
I'm not saying I just bought 2 more, but I'm not denying that, either.
Share the love :))
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$50 plus shipping. Better hurry, only 3 left now. :)
I'm not saying I just bought 2 more, but I'm not denying that, either.
Not a bad price coz I've seen some M13 sold around $100 on ebay recently. I was wondering why the seller put a very dusty keyboard photo for the list...
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$50 plus shipping. Better hurry, only 3 left now. :)
I'm not saying I just bought 2 more, but I'm not denying that, either.
Not a bad price coz I've seen some M13 sold around $100 on ebay recently. I was wondering why the seller put a very dusty keyboard photo for the list...
Because some buyers on eBay are extremely picky and are quick to open a case for item not as described. Considering he has a fairly huge quantity, he's using a worst case scenario image to represent the item in order to be on the safe side.
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Yeah, the one I bought before and already received is in really good condition. One of these will be sacrificing its black badge and the keycaps for an industrial case I have that has no badge, with bolt modded 1390131 internals.
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I tried the trackpoint on one of the M13's with Windows 7 and I'm wondering if I need drivers? The keyboard works, but neither the trackpoint or its buttons respond. What am I missing? I'm using a Bluecube adapter. Do I need to use additional cables or something?
I'm replying here as I believe this is the thread where you meant to post this.
There's two cables coming out of an M13 - ok, technically one cable that splits into two.
The keyboard one needs to go thru a quality active adapter, though you might get away with one of those cheapo ones depending on your hardware.
The mouse one can be put thru a cheaper adapter, thought I don't recall if a passive adapter would work. I think it did, but can't say definitively.
I have run M13's with one of those cheap Y cables, beige cable with purple and green ps/2 connectors, but a few years back the newer thinkpads stopped liking those and had to switch to bluecube for the keyboard side while leaving the mouse side plugged into the Y cable.
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I tried the trackpoint on one of the M13's with Windows 7 and I'm wondering if I need drivers? The keyboard works, but neither the trackpoint or its buttons respond. What am I missing? I'm using a Bluecube adapter. Do I need to use additional cables or something?
I'm replying here as I believe this is the thread where you meant to post this.
There's two cables coming out of an M13 - ok, technically one cable that splits into two.
The keyboard one needs to go thru a quality active adapter, though you might get away with one of those cheapo ones depending on your hardware.
The mouse one can be put thru a cheaper adapter, thought I don't recall if a passive adapter would work. I think it did, but can't say definitively.
I have run M13's with one of those cheap Y cables, beige cable with purple and green ps/2 connectors, but a few years back the newer thinkpads stopped liking those and had to switch to bluecube for the keyboard side while leaving the mouse side plugged into the Y cable.
That explains it. Thank you.
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The seller just restocked.
It appears they're sitting on a mountain of them.
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One thing I'll say about these M13's... even though they're manufactured by Maxi Switch, they seem to be of the same quality as earlier Model M's manufactured by IBM. Unicomp's weigh a little under 4 lbs, whereas these, like earlier Model M's, weigh closer to 5 lbs. Further, there's no case creak, and the cases feel a lot more rigid / solid compared to Unicomp's. I also don't see any cosmetic imperfections on the surface of the case which I've noted with Unicomp's. I'll have to check for flashing around the key caps, but considering the boards I received were made in '95, I'm impressed. Like earlier Model M's, these make Unicomp's look like cheap imitations, in my opinion.
EDIT: Changed Lexmark to Maxi Switch.
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One thing I'll say about these M13's... even though they're manufactured by Lexmark, they seem to be of the same quality as earlier Model M's manufactured by IBM. Unicomp's weigh a little under 4 lbs, whereas these, like earlier Model M's, weigh closer to 5 lbs. Further, there's no case creak, and the cases feel a lot more rigid / solid compared to Unicomp's. I also don't see any cosmetic imperfections on the surface of the case which I've noted with Unicomp's. I'll have to check for flashing around the key caps, but considering the boards I received were made in '95, I'm impressed. Like earlier Model M's, these make Unicomp's look like cheap imitations, in my opinion.
Agreed.
My only jeer is the keys are 1 piece and not 2 piece.
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I just got me M13, I do really like it except one thing. The little trackpoint red dot doesn't provide enough grip for my finger. Any idea where I can get some cheap and good grip little red dot?
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I just got me M13, I do really like it except one thing. The little trackpoint red dot doesn't provide enough grip for my finger. Any idea where I can get some cheap and good grip little red dot?
What you want to look for is thinkpad trackpoint caps. Besides the ones that came for free with my thinkpad, ebay is a cheap place for spares.
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I cant get the TP on mine to work with my ID innovations. I'll use a different PS/2 to USB converter and a different cable just in case.
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Plugged in both PS/2 cables (my motherboard has both) and mousenippled away.
It works really well but yeah I would really like a scroll wheel.
Other than that. For an old board like this it's surprisingly clean. The tiniest hint of dust between the keys and a tiny scratch on some keys but no other imperfections.
Quite pleased with these. :)
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Went back at looked at the auction today: 99 sold. 99.
Where the hell does someone get a supply of 100+ M13s in nice shape in 2014?
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Just one left ;)
I sold mine after I realized I just couldn't work with full-sized anymore. But I can see where people get their preference for BS from.
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Got the last one. Seller declined my $50 offer but accepted my next offer of $60. Have been considering getting one for a while but was putting it off to use the money on other things. I was in a buckling spring mood today after getting my Checkey clacks so I decided to jump on it :p
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"9 available / 100 sold"
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Got the last one.
"9 available / 100 sold"
He's been adjusting his "how many left" count the whole time. Swear this guy has a production line building these things.
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Well okay.
Glad I got one anyway.
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Well okay.
Glad I got one anyway.
Even at $60, totally worth it: these are in amazing shape. Like new I would say
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Well okay.
Glad I got one anyway.
Even at $60, totally worth it: these are in amazing shape. Like new I would say
Good to hear. I was a little worried about keycap wear but that makes me even more glad about my purchase.
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He relisted , and keep going ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-IBM-Trackpoint-II-Model-M-M13-Clicky-Mechanical-Keyboard-13H6705-PS-2-/151407153547?hash=item234091d18b
Yes, it has a production line for sure.
Unfortunately I am way over my budget this month but can somebody post some nice/detailed pictures of actual keyboard received from this seller ?
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He relisted , and keep going ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-IBM-Trackpoint-II-Model-M-M13-Clicky-Mechanical-Keyboard-13H6705-PS-2-/151407153547?hash=item234091d18b
Yes, it has a production line for sure.
Unfortunately I am way over my budget this month but can somebody post some nice/detailed pictures of actual keyboard received from this seller ?
Mine looks almost unused (just dust). I can take some pictures with the last of today's light, but I don't think they will be "good".
edit: nevermind, can't find it in time, maybe tomorrow.
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He relisted , and keep going ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-IBM-Trackpoint-II-Model-M-M13-Clicky-Mechanical-Keyboard-13H6705-PS-2-/151407153547?hash=item234091d18b
Yes, it has a production line for sure.
Unfortunately I am way over my budget this month but can somebody post some nice/detailed pictures of actual keyboard received from this seller ?
I've been meaning to take pics of mine, I can probably take some later today.
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As promised:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/15263072892_72a00b22db_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pfKePb)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3839/15076896287_b4ef6cfa40_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oYi2ZH)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3881/15240456406_52e65b8ef3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pdKjHL)
The pictures don't quite show it, but the pad printing is unfortunately fairly obvious. Overall though, the board could pretty much pass for being new.
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Those are some jaw-dropping photos.
Just DL'd the highest resolution.
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The 1st pic is my wallpaper now. :D
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Thank you for the pictures, you convinced me to try to get one, considering the track-point was the original reason I get in to the "keyboard mania" in the first place.
Still hope that some day I will manage to mod some F 122 with a track point IV :)
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Thank you for the pictures, you convinced me to try to get one, considering the track-point was the original reason I get in to the "keyboard mania" in the first place.
Still hope that some day I will manage to mod some F 122 with a track point IV :)
Sethstorm has you covered:
http://sethstorm.net/images/keyboards/6110668-F13.jpg
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Is he running that server on a teensy embedded in the F122?
In the interests of sanity, an imgur mirror of that:
(http://i.imgur.com/GO4xipH.jpg)
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Seller accepted my 50$ offer. Total cost 115$ ( 50$ Shipping + 15 Import charges ). If I will continue collecting keyboards I should really move to US in order to save a a fortune on shipping.
@dorkvader: Do you have any idea where (and how) did he put the trackpoint buttons ? :P
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I purchased one of these from him yesterday although I could not get two because he did not allow me to have two boards shipped together in one package and I really did not feel paying over 10% of the price I paid for it in shipping =( It was a bit depressing because it almost felt like he ignored all my messages about having the two items ship together (I sent many) and only read my other message saying I want to purchase another one.
NVM he just resent me a new invoice and he dropped the shipping for the second board. I guess he just really legitly missed the other messages I sent him