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Title: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 02:09:16
after thoroughly evaluating their use.

ive determined that theyre rather expensive alarm clocks
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: paicrai on Fri, 06 June 2014, 03:22:41
k






now plz lock
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 04:36:39
haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: feizor on Fri, 06 June 2014, 04:41:59
haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)

I spend too much time on GH with my phone, should invest
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Beca on Fri, 06 June 2014, 04:46:40
ur a gimmick :(
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 06 June 2014, 04:48:27

haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)

Looks like you don't really need those Clacks now, do you? I mean, you can't put them on a iPad 2.. Send them to me bro!
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: madhias on Fri, 06 June 2014, 04:49:28
I use my Nexus 7 almost every day for about 1h surfing the web and reading comics or magazines. It's great! Lay back on the couch, read in the bed, in the kitchen, no battery issues, long runtime, great display - so way better than reading on a laptop or PC/Mac.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 05:03:30

haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)

Looks like you don't really need those Clacks now, do you? I mean, you can't put them on a iPad 2.. Send them to me bro!

Not quite there yet  :)) I still spend a good 8 - 9 hours a day on a real machine :) also when someone gets a bluetooth adapter going for the HHKB I will be able to use those clacks with my iPad  :thumb:
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Beca on Fri, 06 June 2014, 05:20:00
haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)
it's great for playing candy crush and farmville 2.  :-[
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 05:27:15
haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)
it's great for playing candy crush and farmville 2.  :-[

Don't even joke like that! FTL however is great on iPad  ;)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: UnlikeAny on Fri, 06 June 2014, 05:57:30
It's better than newspaper or phone with small screen when you are on the toilet. You know... for browsing geekhack. ;)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Beca on Fri, 06 June 2014, 05:58:55
haha, ok I am gonna chime in a little here because I felt much the same way until I won an iPad 2 at a business function. They do actually come in a lot more useful then you would think and I actually use it an amazing amount. I often just prefer browsing on the couch with it rather than on a laptop or PC. They not really great if you want to input anything but for consuming content they are perfect. Much of my GH time is from my tablet :)
it's great for playing candy crush and farmville 2.  :-[

Don't even joke like that! FTL however is great on iPad  ;)

I wish I was joking... :))
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 06:16:55
I've tried using the tablet for ALL of those things...


Light gaming (FTL)

Internet Browsing

Comics

Books


ALL amount to a considerably more physically taxing experience.


To use a tablet, You have to bend at the neck, OR raise it really high..  There's no real comfortable way to do this..


Bro.. I don't lift either...  So there's also the arms issue...




Tablets are incredibly slow compared to a laptop or PC...


You can't use Adblock on android effectively yet, and even having it turned on greatly slows down browsing..


Books and Comics...   I'd much rather read on my PC, much larger screen, and I don't gotta hold nothing...


If i'm on the couch..  it's better to just use the TV as a monitor....



AT no point has the tablet ever been the best solution..




I agree that if you're OUT in the middle of no where, Tablet may be the ONLY option...   but that would mean it's still your fault for not having brought a laptop..


(http://eemoticons.net/Upload/big%20onion/th_7.gif)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: vun on Fri, 06 June 2014, 06:29:29

Comics

Books


I find that I'd much rather read sitting on the couch or something, using the TV isn't really an option unless you're alone, although I don't think I'd want to read on the TV anyway.

Tablets definitely have their uses, I'd love to have one for reading, although tablets are a bit too expensive to be used as basically just a fancy e-reader, but e-readers are sorta lacking in features.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 June 2014, 07:15:23
Having a kid I can honestly say when my wife took her in for surgery a while back letting her play on her Nexus 7 saved the day, it was the perfect distraction. So they certainly aren't a gimmick. :D
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:10:39
I've tried using the tablet for ALL of those things...


Light gaming (FTL)

Internet Browsing

Comics

Books


ALL amount to a considerably more physically taxing experience.


To use a tablet, You have to bend at the neck, OR raise it really high..  There's no real comfortable way to do this..


Bro.. I don't lift either...  So there's also the arms issue...




Tablets are incredibly slow compared to a laptop or PC...


You can't use Adblock on android effectively yet, and even having it turned on greatly slows down browsing..


Books and Comics...   I'd much rather read on my PC, much larger screen, and I don't gotta hold nothing...


If i'm on the couch..  it's better to just use the TV as a monitor....



AT no point has the tablet ever been the best solution..

Same here...
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: paicrai on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:30:15

Comics

Books


I find that I'd much rather read sitting on the couch or something, using the TV isn't really an option unless you're alone, although I don't think I'd want to read on the TV anyway.

Tablets definitely have their uses, I'd love to have one for reading, although tablets are a bit too expensive to be used as basically just a fancy e-reader, but e-readers are sorta lacking in features.
you'd buy one anyway
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:36:25
I've heard tablets are great for p0rn. The screen can be wiped off easily..
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: paicrai on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:46:21
I've heard tablets are great for p0rn. The screen can be wiped off easily..
i think you have bigger problems if you're hitting the screen
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: osi on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:55:23
TP MASTAR TROLL. :D

I use my tablet everyday, 1st gen nexus 7. Sure you lose out on a few things such as performance and screen real estate vs a laptop but the difference is convenience which makes those trade off much less significant.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 09:40:13
TP MASTAR TROLL. :D

I use my tablet everyday, 1st gen nexus 7. Sure you lose out on a few things such as performance and screen real estate vs a laptop but the difference is convenience which makes those trade off much less significant.

I thought it would be convenient.. but at what cost...

For the most part... tablet has made it such that it takes me forever to do something..

Even for example making this forum post...



I can turn on my PC and type this post out faster than I could on a tablet that's already on..

Oh, also my Onion Cat emoticons, Only available on PC

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: eth0s on Fri, 06 June 2014, 09:50:28
I have to agree with tp4. Tablets are not that great. Biggest downside is no keyboard. Also they are horrible if u have any amount of Carpal Tunnel syndrome or RSI.  Much painful.   I have latest ipad.  But now I'm looking at getting one of those windows 8 hybrids.  They are part netbook/ part tablet. I was hoping somebody here can recommend a good one with USB port for my HHKB.   Maybe i should just go full notebook?  I need light and portable. I don't need desktop replacement.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:11:23
i have this bendy tablet arm hanging over the top of the head board

tablet arm (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JORP0SW/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00JORP0SW&linkCode=as2&tag=420usa-20&linkId=6JRARMQP34BCUBBV)

for ipad, it's a "bit" too heavy imo, it doesn't stay in the exact position i want.

however for lighter 8in tablets, it's perfect
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:24:37
Well...

I have a Galaxy Note 2 phablet... I use it mostly for tablet-type stuff. It's a great kindle reader, decent for browsing sites that don't require interaction and a lot of really quick tasks, like taking simple notes with the stylus or checking the weather, etc. Some games are really nice on it, too (Angry Birds, Bad Piggies, etc.)

I often use it for similar things you use books for (reading and taking notes). You have to hold a book up or angle your neck down just the same as with a tablet. I wouldn't want one bigger than 7" since it then becomes too unwieldy for the type of tasks I use it for.

I wouldn't use it or another tablet as my primary browsing device or for any long period task. Laptop or PC is much better for most of those.

I admit I have fallen asleep a number of times reading an e-book on my phone only to have it fall on me and wake me up  :)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:53:10
Well...

I have a Galaxy Note 2 phablet... I use it mostly for tablet-type stuff. It's a great kindle reader, decent for browsing sites that don't require interaction and a lot of really quick tasks, like taking simple notes with the stylus or checking the weather, etc. Some games are really nice on it, too (Angry Birds, Bad Piggies, etc.)

I often use it for similar things you use books for (reading and taking notes). You have to hold a book up or angle your neck down just the same as with a tablet. I wouldn't want one bigger than 7" since it then becomes too unwieldy for the type of tasks I use it for.

I wouldn't use it or another tablet as my primary browsing device or for any long period task. Laptop or PC is much better for most of those.

I admit I have fallen asleep a number of times reading an e-book on my phone only to have it fall on me and wake me up  :)

Even 7"...  too big too heavy for  Serious Internet Use...

doesn't matter how light it feels for the first 10 minutes.... 

my arms are to blame really.. they're too damn heavy on their own

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bad-atmosphere-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:57:20
I agree. Between my phone and computer, there is no need for another device. I think this will become a more popular opinion as 6"+ phones become more common.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 14:07:23
I agree. Between my phone and computer, there is no need for another device. I think this will become a more popular opinion as 6"+ phones become more common.

i think the note 3 is about as big as it can get for a phone... pocket wise...


Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Lain1911 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 14:20:00
I can not think of a situation I've ever been in where I've been away from home and could say "I wish I had some kind of device that I could go online with because I just can not wait till I get to a desktop computer."

But hey, people are different :)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: epzy on Fri, 06 June 2014, 14:27:03
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 14:30:35
I can not think of a situation I've ever been in where I've been away from home and could say "I wish I had some kind of device that I could go online with because I just can not wait till I get to a desktop computer."

But hey, people are different :)

Not sure if trolling.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:14:30
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: user 18 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:27:06
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down

I usually lie on my side and prop up my phone or tablet against a pillow or other object. Comfy as all get out.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: UnlikeAny on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:29:52
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down

That's why you need to have your head a bit higher. Then you can support tablets weight with your chest. Or lie down on your side, this way tablet will stand on something.

But to be honest, you will get uncomfortable after a short time...
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: epzy on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:30:26
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down

I back it up with the use of a pillow...

You could also try to find something similar to this: (http://gadgetsin.com/uploads/2010/07/innopocket_hexapose_ipad_stand_1.jpg)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Lain1911 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:44:12
I can not think of a situation I've ever been in where I've been away from home and could say "I wish I had some kind of device that I could go online with because I just can not wait till I get to a desktop computer."

But hey, people are different :)

Not sure if trolling.

I am obvious troll when trolling and this sir is not trolling. My trolling would be silly like "I have zero devices that can go online." (catchy lame punchline)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: madhias on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:54:02
In bed reading with tablet right now :-*
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 18:43:36
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down

I usually lie on my side and prop up my phone or tablet against a pillow or other object. Comfy as all get out.


You know what... I think this is where I've differed greatly from ya'll properly padded folks.. I don't have enough belly to sleep on my side..

i got 25" circumference waist, and 47" shoulder circumference.

So It's impossible to have my spine straight when I lie on my side.. I just can't do it...   it almost becomes L shaped..
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: user 18 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:02:06
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down

I usually lie on my side and prop up my phone or tablet against a pillow or other object. Comfy as all get out.


You know what... I think this is where I've differed greatly from ya'll properly padded folks.. I don't have enough belly to sleep on my side..

i got 25" circumference waist, and 47" shoulder circumference.

So It's impossible to have my spine straight when I lie on my side.. I just can't do it...   it almost becomes L shaped..

pillow(s) under waist?
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:03:27
I use my tab for watching netflix, and streams on twitch.tv in bed - works great for those things.

it's hard though...  my triceps give out after about 20 minutes... holding the tablet upwards when I'm lying down

I usually lie on my side and prop up my phone or tablet against a pillow or other object. Comfy as all get out.


You know what... I think this is where I've differed greatly from ya'll properly padded folks.. I don't have enough belly to sleep on my side..

i got 25" circumference waist, and 47" shoulder circumference.

So It's impossible to have my spine straight when I lie on my side.. I just can't do it...   it almost becomes L shaped..

pillow(s) under waist?

not a good fit..   i'd need a really precise triangle to make it work
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:04:15
I kid you not, I looked at the thread title in spy and even without looking at the OP said to myself "oh, look... it's a tp4 thread."
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:08:08
I kid you not, I looked at the thread title in spy and even without looking at the OP said to myself "oh, look... it's a tp4 thread."

It's called... Style... Tp4 haz it...   you Jelly -jwaz- ?? (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:09:06
It's called... Style... Tp4 haz it...   you Jelly -jwaz- ??
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)


impressed by consistency, more like.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:21:29
I have an iPad Mini, a very clean and easily portable device. I tried a first generation Kindle Fire, but that only worked best as an e-reader and some apps in my opinion, and I wanted better functionality. My iPad works well with those items and more. Plus, since I have iPhone, iMac, Macbook Pro…it fits into the Apple universe and I must benefit somehow because they tell me I do.

I'm looking for an iPad Mini case, probably with a built in keyboard. Any feedback on folio-style cases with keyboards? Even if for other devices? Not sure I need it, but I had to make a spreadsheet one night in a hotel and didn't have my laptop…a mini keyboard would have been sweet!
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:32:53
I have an iPad Mini, a very clean and easily portable device. I tried a first generation Kindle Fire, but that only worked best as an e-reader and some apps in my opinion, and I wanted better functionality. My iPad works well with those items and more. Plus, since I have iPhone, iMac, Macbook Pro…it fits into the Apple universe and I must benefit somehow because they tell me I do.

I'm looking for an iPad Mini case, probably with a built in keyboard. Any feedback on folio-style cases with keyboards? Even if for other devices? Not sure I need it, but I had to make a spreadsheet one night in a hotel and didn't have my laptop…a mini keyboard would have been sweet!

If you KNOW you're gonna need spreadsheets...  You gotta have something with an i7 with at least 2.5ghz...  you just gotta....

Nothing else will do the job without frustrating you.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:48:26
I have an iPad Mini, a very clean and easily portable device. I tried a first generation Kindle Fire, but that only worked best as an e-reader and some apps in my opinion, and I wanted better functionality. My iPad works well with those items and more. Plus, since I have iPhone, iMac, Macbook Pro…it fits into the Apple universe and I must benefit somehow because they tell me I do.

I'm looking for an iPad Mini case, probably with a built in keyboard. Any feedback on folio-style cases with keyboards? Even if for other devices? Not sure I need it, but I had to make a spreadsheet one night in a hotel and didn't have my laptop…a mini keyboard would have been sweet!

If you KNOW you're gonna need spreadsheets...  You gotta have something with an i7 with at least 2.5ghz...  you just gotta....

Nothing else will do the job without frustrating you.

IPad Mini using Numbers. It just worked.
Not major number crunching workbooks with complicated algorithms and carry overs.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 14 June 2014, 12:53:12
Ok, I see the tablet limitation first hand.

I had to create a long, highly detailed email with photographs. I spent 5 hours in the hotel until 1AM composing, typing, inserting, editing, wishing I had my laptop the whole time. The tablet limitation was mostly with the viewing and editing…MUCH slower/laborious. I was hating life. The spreadsheet I worked on previously, had it been more constructed/evolved, would have been a similar nightmare as well.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:47:49
Ok, I see the tablet limitation first hand.

I had to create a long, highly detailed email with photographs. I spent 5 hours in the hotel until 1AM composing, typing, inserting, editing, wishing I had my laptop the whole time. The tablet limitation was mostly with the viewing and editing…MUCH slower/laborious. I was hating life. The spreadsheet I worked on previously, had it been more constructed/evolved, would have been a similar nightmare as well.

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/victory-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)

Everytime I gotta use anything that's not my 5ghz 2500k or 4.6ghz 3570k ivy or my new 4.8ghz 4650k haswell.. I feel like I want to kill myself..
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:57:40
I use a graphic tablet at school and find it pretty useful ;)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:59:23
I use a graphic tablet at school and find it pretty useful ;)

that's totally N0t what we're talking about (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 14 June 2014, 14:36:57
Ok, I see the tablet limitation first hand.

I had to create a long, highly detailed email with photographs. I spent 5 hours in the hotel until 1AM composing, typing, inserting, editing, wishing I had my laptop the whole time. The tablet limitation was mostly with the viewing and editing…MUCH slower/laborious. I was hating life. The spreadsheet I worked on previously, had it been more constructed/evolved, would have been a similar nightmare as well.

Maybe a bit more detail is needed for some….

Cut/paste, moving around the screen, reviewing anything that's not visible at the same time, scrolling, massive editing, combined with the normal composing and misc…it was a chore. But this was also a difficult/political task designed to sink a contractors excuses/lack of performance, so there was a negative aspect to the tack to begin with. Plus, I'm not used to doing this on a tablet, maybe it gets easier, but I don't want to try it anymore. Obviously this is not a tablets main function/strong point. If I had an iPad mini case with bluetooth keyboard that might have helped. I'll look for one today.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 15:04:14
Ok, I see the tablet limitation first hand.

I had to create a long, highly detailed email with photographs. I spent 5 hours in the hotel until 1AM composing, typing, inserting, editing, wishing I had my laptop the whole time. The tablet limitation was mostly with the viewing and editing…MUCH slower/laborious. I was hating life. The spreadsheet I worked on previously, had it been more constructed/evolved, would have been a similar nightmare as well.

Maybe a bit more detail is needed for some….

Cut/paste, moving around the screen, reviewing anything that's not visible at the same time, scrolling, massive editing, combined with the normal composing and misc…it was a chore. But this was also a difficult/political task designed to sink a contractors excuses/lack of performance, so there was a negative aspect to the tack to begin with. Plus, I'm not used to doing this on a tablet, maybe it gets easier, but I don't want to try it anymore. Obviously this is not a tablets main function/strong point. If I had an iPad mini case with bluetooth keyboard that might have helped. I'll look for one today.

pretty much mouse and keyboard fixes most of those problems..  assuming the screen's large enough.

but over all TOUCH, is NOT there ...
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 14 June 2014, 15:18:50
Looking at keyboard cases…but haven't seen an iPad mini with mouse/touchpad…that's the problem.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: osi on Sat, 14 June 2014, 16:16:20
Too much hate here!! Tablets are a relatively cheap way to provide the masses access to information and hopefully some internatz.

Also a real world example in favor of tablets.

Recently, I had the privilege of adding a small addition to the family. Holidays come, travel undoubtedly in the future --- wat do?

- Load up tablet with movies.
- Velcro the tablet to the headrest

When needed, we could also run audio through the aux in, set the fade to rear and it became a little theater.

Also netflix via hotspot.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 16:16:35
Looking at keyboard cases…but haven't seen an iPad mini with mouse/touchpad…that's the problem.

ipad mini is still a bit hard to work with. if you have the space you're better off carrying a mac air, or a surface pro
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:01:46
ipad mini size i think is subjective.

my wife likes the dell venue 8 over the ipad, besides ipad just sucking balls and not being able to use flash.

it's also more comfortable for her to hold and use.

while i also find the 8in screen comfortable i'd sacrifice that to use the 10in ipad.

so imo, ipad mini's and the like are great for woman.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:21:27
This is although true, it would have been nice to have a tablet that can run PPT, word and such during the last two projects this year.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 14 June 2014, 18:15:37
I thought this thread was about the functionality and validity of a tablet and verses a laptop as a comparison.

I was originally pretty gung-ho thinking a tablet was pretty similar to a laptop, but after some heavier use see the limitations more clearly now, even if you use a bluetooth keyboard. A tablet is primarily for content consumption and very light creation, and light communication. Whereas smartphones are communication heavy, consumption light, and creation absolutely minimal. Laptops/desktops are creation heavy.

IOS at this point doesn't support bluetooth mouse, and I've noted the on screen keyboard doesn't have an "enter" so a massive texting session can't be via keyboard without using screen input, so that hampers the keyboard usage for communication, but the keyboard is valuable for straight emailing, document input. I guess a netbook would bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop (since I'm a Mac guy I'd look at the smallest Macbook Air). At this point I'll use my 17" Macbook Pro.

I'm not slamming tablets, they are what they are. I like my iPad Mini, just not for the work I did with it last week.

And yes, maybe the iPad Mini size is part of the restriction that I suffered from working on it last week.

Was gonna get an iPad Mini case with a keyboard, but now will just get a case.


Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:18:46
PC for media creation.

Tablet for media consumption.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 15 June 2014, 06:13:24
Then again, consumption is much more fun on a 30" monitor + Good sound setup...
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Coreda on Sun, 15 June 2014, 06:19:41
Maybe a bit more detail is needed for some….

From the above description it sounds like a Windows Surface tablet with true W8 on it might be a better alternative, although tbh no tablets have particularly interested me before.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: sacratoy on Sun, 15 June 2014, 08:42:26
I travel quite a bit for pleasure, and my iPad Air works great as a substitute for a laptop. I can write emails, browse the web, watch videos, play FTL (and Threes, and Battlefield 4 Commander mode), and use apps designed for travel that could benefit from the increased screen real estate.

I don't think tablets are a "gimmick" in and of themselves, they just serve a niche purpose that everyone isn't going to benefit from.

;;edit;;

For me, it's also an issue of weight.

I spent two months solo traveling around Europe with just a regular (school) sized backpack and a rollaway carry-on. A good tablet can pack a lot of power and utility, and not take up a lot of space.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:25:43
I'm not complaining about what a tablet is or isn't. I think it's an awesome product overall. My only experience is an iPad Mini.

The Windows Surface is a tablet with a real keyboard that converts it into a laptop, that's pretty neat, too bad it's Windows…. Does is have a mouse/touchpad?

With the limitations I noted previously, a larger screen would have helped a bit (iPad Air or larger) but a keyboard and mouse are also what was needed. It's not a laptop replacement. That's  all. Nor is a Windows Surface.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Coreda on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:17:20
The Windows Surface is a tablet with a real keyboard that converts it into a laptop, that's pretty neat, too bad it's Windows…. Does is have a mouse/touchpad?

It's not a laptop replacement. That's  all. Nor is a Windows Surface.

It has a touchpad on the keyboard, apart of course from the touchscreen. In the scenario you described I could imagine it being the more productive device of the two, although if screen real estate is an issue nothing compares to a good laptop.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:36:23
I love my iPad Mini! It is very light and small. Perfect tablet! I mainly use it for reading geekhack. lol
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 15 June 2014, 12:10:52
I love my iPad Mini! It is very light and small. Perfect tablet! I mainly use it for reading geekhack. lol

Yep. Consumption.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 June 2014, 12:22:50
I love my iPad Mini! It is very light and small. Perfect tablet! I mainly use it for reading geekhack. lol

Yep. Consumption.

nonononono...

Surface PRO... it's full windows 8..  no gimmicky iOS/android
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 15 June 2014, 12:34:39
I love my iPad Mini! It is very light and small. Perfect tablet! I mainly use it for reading geekhack. lol

Yep. Consumption.

nonononono...

Surface PRO... it's full windows 8..  no gimmicky iOS/android

Unfortunately it's Windowzzzz. Windowz gave computers a bad name…..
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 15 June 2014, 13:10:23
I have to agree with tp4. Tablets are not that great. Biggest downside is no keyboard. Also they are horrible if u have any amount of Carpal Tunnel syndrome or RSI.  Much painful.   I have latest ipad.  But now I'm looking at getting one of those windows 8 hybrids.  They are part netbook/ part tablet. I was hoping somebody here can recommend a good one with USB port for my HHKB.   Maybe i should just go full notebook?  I need light and portable. I don't need desktop replacement.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter?fnode=3a Now you have an hhkb with your ipad.


Also, you're slipping tp, you made this thread like a year ago.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 June 2014, 14:14:11
I have to agree with tp4. Tablets are not that great. Biggest downside is no keyboard. Also they are horrible if u have any amount of Carpal Tunnel syndrome or RSI.  Much painful.   I have latest ipad.  But now I'm looking at getting one of those windows 8 hybrids.  They are part netbook/ part tablet. I was hoping somebody here can recommend a good one with USB port for my HHKB.   Maybe i should just go full notebook?  I need light and portable. I don't need desktop replacement.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter?fnode=3a Now you have an hhkb with your ipad.


Also, you're slipping tp, you made this thread like a year ago.

I did.. but NOW.. i have much more experience with it.

because of all the tablets that have accumulated around the house.. I've attempted to really put it into my life..

and the results, i've thus shared.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 15 June 2014, 19:15:38
You guys are brutal.

See you at Keycon.
Title: Re: tablets, what a gimmick
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 15 June 2014, 19:20:05
I am of the belief that a proper tablet (no droid or iOS) that has the full functionality of the laptop is a fantastic device. Wouldn't you want what is essentially a touchscreen laptop without the useless membrane keyboard in the way?