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Title: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: dante on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:01:47

I've read of problems with costar - how about Cherry?

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:24:46

I have DSA keycaps, the Macross set, installed in a board with Cherry stabilizers with no issues at all.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: tbc on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:54:00

spacebar was slightly warped, so i had to push down hard and make sure boths ends caught properly.

but that's an installation only issue and not a daily use problem.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:57:38

Quote from: tbc on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:54:00

spacebar was slightly warped, so i had to push down hard and make sure boths ends caught properly.

but that's an installation only issue and not a daily use problem.

A hot water bath for 10 minutes and some bending may fix that issue easily.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: LURK on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:57:14

I had a set of SP DSA on Cherry stab's with no problems at all.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 08 June 2014, 21:01:43

I read somewhere that cherry stabs are smaller...

I don't have a caliper on hand to check though.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 09 June 2014, 08:45:23

Cherry stabs rock! No sqeak, no rattle, no binding, no fiddly bits on the keycaps and can be "clipped" to remove the "soft" bottom out. Awesome.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 09 June 2014, 08:45:59

They're very tight.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 09 June 2014, 10:05:49

Had a problem with it initially but managed to fix it.

Was sticky at first. Flipped it, still sticky. Changed to heavier spring, still sticky. Tried hot water and flattening it, much much better. which is what I'm using now but just not as good as it was when stock

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 09 June 2014, 19:19:16

Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 09 June 2014, 10:05:49

Had a problem with it initially but managed to fix it.

Was sticky at first. Flipped it, still sticky. Changed to heavier spring, still sticky. Tried hot water and flattening it, much much better. which is what I'm using now but just not as good as it was when stock

That sounds like ultra-sensitivity to keycap variations.

Cherry stabilisers are known for being sensitive to variations in keycap shape - sounds like these DSA ones are just more so.

That is one strong argument for Costar stabilisers - the inserts are free to move slightly along the stabiliser arms, and thus Costar stabs are more forgiving of imperfectly shaped keys.

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 10 June 2014, 04:44:15

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:24:46

I have DSA keycaps, the Macross set, installed in a board with Cherry stabilizers with no issues at all.

PCB-mounted stabilisers or the plate-mounted stabilisers with four upward-facing prongs?

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 10 June 2014, 07:57:12

Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 09 June 2014, 19:19:16

That sounds like ultra-sensitivity to keycap variations.

Cherry stabilisers are known for being sensitive to variations in keycap shape - sounds like these DSA ones are just more so.

That is one strong argument for Costar stabilisers - the inserts are free to move slightly along the stabiliser arms, and thus Costar stabs are more forgiving of imperfectly shaped keys.

                                                           
Yeah looking at the design of cherry stabs I have to agree with this. They're forced to move in a very fixed up-down motion within their sockets

Title: Re: Has anyone had difficulty with SP DSA on Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 June 2014, 08:52:17

Quote from: Findecanor on Tue, 10 June 2014, 04:44:15

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 08 June 2014, 13:24:46

I have DSA keycaps, the Macross set, installed in a board with Cherry stabilizers with no issues at all.

PCB-mounted stabilisers or the plate-mounted stabilisers with four upward-facing prongs?

I have tried DSA caps with both types. The Poker X has PCB mounted stabilizers, and the FC660M has plate mounted ones. Both have no issues at all.