Lasers are more accurate for close range and allow faster target acquisition as well as the ability to shoot from odd positions. Optical is better for long range due to (usually) less parallax and the possibility of magnification. Also optical is more reliable due to lower or zero battery consumption.Surely that's less about the type of sensor used, and the amount of mouse accel / sensitivity in play?
Thanks everyone, I have another questions and I don't want to create another thread.Therefore, when does the Coolermaster Mizar mouse come out for North America, thank you.
Here's a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yX_DQXSWJ4) I just made to show the difference between the 2.
Laser first with all forms of acceleration turned off(except the inherent negative laser-acceleration)
Optical second.
I'll let the results (http://gyazo.com/fa2ccdcb2bfcf46aaf4e483104797523) speak for themselves.
Which brings me quite a lot of shame, because I love the feel of my laser mouse, but it's not worth the 18% accuracy drop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqDHjAL7-U)
Lasers are more accurate for close range and allow faster target acquisition as well as the ability to shoot from odd positions. Optical is better for long range due to (usually) less parallax and the possibility of magnification. Also optical is more reliable due to lower or zero battery consumption.Surely that's less about the type of sensor used, and the amount of mouse accel / sensitivity in play?
That feel when you got all the crap off one of the roller wheels in one solid piece...
I don't use optical or laser mice. Ball mice are where it's at!Show Image(http://webpage.pace.edu/ms16182p/troubleshooting/ballmouse.jpg)
Not gonna lie, the Boomslang was probably the best mouse I ever had.
most laser sensors have inherent accelleration
most laser sensors have inherent accelleration
I would like to know where you get your Information from.
most laser sensors have inherent accelleration
I would like to know where you get your Information from.
afaik there are no Avago laser sensors that do not suffer from acceleration
Here's a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yX_DQXSWJ4) I just made to show the difference between the 2.
Laser first with all forms of acceleration turned off(except the inherent negative laser-acceleration)
Optical second.
I'll let the results (http://gyazo.com/fa2ccdcb2bfcf46aaf4e483104797523) speak for themselves.
Which brings me quite a lot of shame, because I love the feel of my laser mouse, but it's not worth the 18% accuracy drop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqDHjAL7-U)
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/gaming-mouse-sensor-listafaik there are no Avago laser sensors that do not suffer from acceleration
And that is flatout BS, its "just" a problem with the complete Package that is the A9500/A9800, and as i mentioned in another thread, it is not "acceleration", PMW3310 shows similar behaviour, altough on a much lower scale(PMW3310 is essentially a led lit A9800).
Here's a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yX_DQXSWJ4) I just made to show the difference between the 2.
Laser first with all forms of acceleration turned off(except the inherent negative laser-acceleration)
Optical second.
I'll let the results (http://gyazo.com/fa2ccdcb2bfcf46aaf4e483104797523) speak for themselves.
Which brings me quite a lot of shame, because I love the feel of my laser mouse, but it's not worth the 18% accuracy drop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqDHjAL7-U)
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/gaming-mouse-sensor-list
Well, given that there is literally only ONE other alternative laser sensor being used that isn't 9500/9800, I would say it's not "flatout BS" Unfortunately I don't have a 6000-sensor mouse to test, but I would be willing to be it also suffers from the same problem.
The fact is that the VAST majority of "gaming" laser mice have this acceleration is just a fact, trying to deny this just makes you look silly.
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/gaming-mouse-sensor-list
Well, given that there is literally only ONE other alternative laser sensor being used that isn't 9500/9800, I would say it's not "flatout BS" Unfortunately I don't have a 6000-sensor mouse to test, but I would be willing to be it also suffers from the same problem.
Well, 6006, 6010, 6018, 6090 have much lower variance than 9500 and 9800, so yes, saying that every Avago Laserstream sensor has "acceleration" is flatout BS. While tracking characteristics are influenced by illumination method, in the end it comes down to how the whole package works.The fact is that the VAST majority of "gaming" laser mice have this acceleration is just a fact, trying to deny this just makes you look silly.
Nobody denies anything, you just dont understand what im writing apparently.
Most mice on the market nowadays use the 9xxx tho, the mice using 6xxx are mostly EOL with the possible exception of budget brand mice.
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/gaming-mouse-sensor-list
Well, given that there is literally only ONE other alternative laser sensor being used that isn't 9500/9800, I would say it's not "flatout BS" Unfortunately I don't have a 6000-sensor mouse to test, but I would be willing to be it also suffers from the same problem.
Well, 6006, 6010, 6018, 6090 have much lower variance than 9500 and 9800, so yes, saying that every Avago Laserstream sensor has "acceleration" is flatout BS. While tracking characteristics are influenced by illumination method, in the end it comes down to how the whole package works.The fact is that the VAST majority of "gaming" laser mice have this acceleration is just a fact, trying to deny this just makes you look silly.
Nobody denies anything, you just dont understand what im writing apparently.
I understand your Pov, but in the end it is still the A9500/9800 platform that causes problems, and not the illumination method itself.True, it is poorly worded and can easily lead to misunderstandings.
The problem is that in the end when somebody reads a forum and then only finds stuff like "every lasermouse has acceleration", then this is the information that gets from here to another forum/communities/etc.
I understand your Pov, but in the end it is still the A9500/9800 platform that causes problems, and not the illumination method itself.True, it is poorly worded and can easily lead to misunderstandings.
The problem is that in the end when somebody reads a forum and then only finds stuff like "every lasermouse has acceleration", then this is the information that gets from here to another forum/communities/etc.
Not that it seems to have much effect, laser mice with the 9xxx are still being churned out on a regular basis and probably sell by the boatload.
[24/06/2013 20:24:09] Wellington Diesel: but be careful of AVAGO 9800
[24/06/2013 20:24:21] Wellington Diesel: there have been some problems everywhere with them
[24/06/2013 20:24:26] Carter Salley: avago 9800 is honestly just a sell for the masses
[24/06/2013 20:24:29] Carter Salley: I hate the sensor
[24/06/2013 20:24:33] Carter Salley: but DPI sells
[24/06/2013 20:24:34] Wellington Diesel: yeah
[24/06/2013 20:24:36] Wellington Diesel: I know, I know
[24/06/2013 20:24:40] Carter Salley: so we make flashy mice for those
[24/06/2013 20:24:54] Carter Salley: and I keep making the 3090 mice focusing on build quality and grip type
Do laser mice work better than optical mice on smooth, painted surfaces? That's where I always run into trouble with optical units.
Do laser mice work better than optical mice on smooth, painted surfaces? That's where I always run into trouble with optical units.
Yes, they do, but there are some optical sensors (AVAGO 3050, AVAGO M000, AVAGO M010) that also work quite well with painted surfaces.
And a few times, all you need to do to make some AVAGO 3090 mice work with painted surfaces is adjust the LOD to a higher setting (if the software/firmware allows that).
There's a new generation Philips laser doppler sensor on the market. Seems to be as accurate as the Twin Eye but with none of the problems.
First mouse to use it is the Mad Catz RAT TE (Tournament Edition). Getting good reviews so far.
Have we accounted for other near-by gravity sources (eg. A mountain?) or other forces (eg. Magnetic, air resistance, etc.)?most laser sensors have inherent accelleration
I would like to know where you get your Information from.
Just drop a laser sensor on the ground. It will accelerate at 9.8 meters per second.