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Title: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:16:29
White Side-Printed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Keycap-Set-Cherry-MX-based-Leopold-Keyboard-Top-Face-English-White-/271568532918)

Navy English/Korean Top Printed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Keycap-Set-Cherry-MX-based-Leopold-Keyboard-Top-Face-Korean-Englih-Navy-/281403275326)

Navy Blank/Unprinted (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Keycap-Set-for-Cherry-MX-based-Leopold-Keyboards-Blank-Non-Printed-Navy-/271530133899)

Navy Side-Printed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Keycap-Set-for-Cherry-MX-based-Leopold-Keyboards-Front-Face-Englih-Navy-/281374555860)

Black Side-Printed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Keycap-Set-for-Cherry-MX-based-Leopold-Keyboards-Front-Face-Englih-Black-/281377716241)

Each set $39.45 + $13 shipped from Korea.  Seller has 100% feedback.

Compatible Model : FC900R / FC750RT / FC700RT / FC660M / FC300R / FC500R / FC200RT / Filco / Ducky / WASD / Etc..





edit: Interesting observation: The specs list a FC900R as a compatible model.  Future fullsize FC750R perhaps?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:20:00
Also got (if you want to combine shipping)

leo numpad w/ reds
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leopold-FC210TP-Mechanical-Tenkeypad-Cherry-MX-Red-Switches-21-Key-PBT-Black-/281363798192?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item418296d8b0

leo 750r
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leopold-FC750R-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Brown-Switch-PBT-English-Korean-/281362178969?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item41827e2399

leo leather wrist rests
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Leopold-Keyboard-Palm-Rest-genuine-leather-Medium-Size-370mm-14-5-Black-/281336575763?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4180f77713
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:22:07
Nice find!

Is this Cherry profile? And what size is the second spacebar?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:24:02
Nice find!

Is this Cherry profile? And what size is the second spacebar?

I know it's shorter profile than OEM but not 100% certain if cherry profile.  The second spacebar is probably because almost every Leopold model has different stem spaces and probably ran out of room on the first.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:48:56
Looks pretty close to Cherry but not 100% as seen in these photo (https://imgur.com/gallery/h02Aw). I decided to try them out and grabbed a blank set. I suppose the other spacebar is for the older fullsize models as I recall they had a slightly different stem spacing for no reason.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:54:42
Looks pretty close to Cherry but not 100% as seen in these photo (https://imgur.com/gallery/h02Aw). I decided to try them out and grabbed a blank set. I suppose the other spacebar is for the older fullsize models as I recall they had a slightly different stem spacing for no reason.

Do you know if these are "Filco" compatible?

Yes, yes it is! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56442.msg1284601#msg1284601)

I bought a set for myself.  They will be going on a MX Black KUL when it becomes available.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 June 2014, 14:21:46
Oh yeah, it has normal stems in the spacebar... if only Leopold would quit being retarded and use that on the stabilizer itself.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Sun, 22 June 2014, 08:02:36
I just updated the OP's link for the Blank Unprinted keycaps.  WideBasket has restocked them so 3 more sets are available.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 22 June 2014, 08:57:41
I like the look of Navy blue but I don't think it would look so great on my black Leopold
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 June 2014, 09:14:31
Looks pretty close to Cherry but not 100% as seen in these photo (https://imgur.com/gallery/h02Aw). I decided to try them out and grabbed a blank set. I suppose the other spacebar is for the older fullsize models as I recall they had a slightly different stem spacing for no reason.

Please share your experience after you got your set.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:27:21
Of course, but I guess it won't be for awhile.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:29:49
Of course, but I guess it won't be for awhile.

You may get first your brand new Dolch set?  ;)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:33:57
Saw this post and was hoping it was for the FC660
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:36:23
I've had a Dolch set of my own for a LONG LONG time (it's in a nice bag in a box :))). I'm just basically assuming it will take a few weeks for delivery.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 June 2014, 19:17:28
Saw this post and was hoping it was for the FC660

it does not have a second 2.25u shift nor the 1u windows. I suppose its space bar fits the odd stems positions of the FC660M though.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 June 2014, 19:22:57
I've had a Dolch set of my own for a LONG LONG time (it's in a nice bag in a box :)) ). I'm just basically assuming it will take a few weeks for delivery.

I cannot imagine how cool your collection is, however I already know you should have most of the sought after items at GH.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Battou62 on Mon, 23 June 2014, 07:26:35
The caps are gone :( Maybe they will sell some more. I was thinking about picking up a set.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:50:54
Grabbed a blanks set.
I'm a sucker for really thick caps :)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Mon, 23 June 2014, 10:42:45
I updated the OP with the new links as he has restocked them.

Kind of a pain in the butt by only doing 3 sets in each listing.  So if these listings are out of stock again do a search on ebay as he likely has creating replacement listings for them.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 23 June 2014, 20:31:53
I am having trouble not buying these
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 26 June 2014, 01:24:09
Looks pretty close to Cherry but not 100% as seen in these photo (https://imgur.com/gallery/h02Aw). I decided to try them out and grabbed a blank set. I suppose the other spacebar is for the older fullsize models as I recall they had a slightly different stem spacing for no reason.

Those are my pics :D Did you ever get around to asking GMK about the universal spacebar option? Seemed like it was very much possible but there was no followup in your thread

It's an amazing keyset, I bought a set from another board. Quality is great, thick like GMK.

Here's some more pics compared to Cherry keys: http://m.imgur.com/a/tWAbu

Here's the spacebar, universal same as poker ii: http://m.imgur.com/a/nUPDj
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:34:30
I emailed GMK twice about it, still haven't heard an answer for that yet.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 08:17:12
So, are these compatible with other boards besides the leopold boards?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 26 June 2014, 08:19:31
So, are these compatible with other boards besides the leopold boards?

Yes, they are compatible with every standard board like Filco or Ducky.

I will wait for Ivan's review though :p

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 26 June 2014, 11:50:57
I emailed GMK twice about it, still haven't heard an answer for that yet.

Thanks Ivan! Much appreciated! Btw you'll like the set I would think. I'll post some pics also when mine arrives

I was actually going to do a review of the FC750r with the title "the TKL keyboard you should buy, if only for the keycaps"
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: jameslr on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:01:47
I just bought a set. I was waiting for them to be sold separately since I don't really want another MX keyboard. This set will go nicely on my CM Storm NovaTouch (when it's released).
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:27:52
One picture shows the capslock key like it is center stem.

There are two other pictures that show what looks like an off center caps lock.

Does the set have both?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:49:42
One picture shows the capslock key like it is center stem.

There are two other pictures that show what looks like an off center caps lock.

Does the set have both?

I noticed that also. I guess we have to wait for review.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:28:07
One picture shows the capslock key like it is center stem.

There are two other pictures that show what looks like an off center caps lock.

Does the set have both?

I noticed that also. I guess we have to wait for review.

No need to be so patient boys:

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59780.0;attach=69086;image)

Anymore questions feel free to ask, I'm only missing a few keys from the eBay and will probably have the eBay set soon.

Edit: Oh, yea they might include both (or all 3) but can't say for sure just yet.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:48:23
One picture shows the capslock key like it is center stem.

There are two other pictures that show what looks like an off center caps lock.

Does the set have both?

I noticed that also. I guess we have to wait for review.

No need to be so patient boys:

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59780.0;attach=69086;image)


Anymore questions feel free to ask, I'm only missing a few keys from the eBay and will probably have the eBay set soon.

So, which caps lock does this come with?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:58:00
So, which caps lock does this come with?

Heh I thought the question was more about the stem placement for some reason.

I would guess they would include both but maybe not the top printed Caps, though I'm sure that's not very re-assuring
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 08:29:57
got the keys today. Set includes the 2/3 caps lock keys I posted earlier. The top printed caps lock key is not included.

Also there are 2 6.25 spacebars, one is 6 stem (universal) and the other is 3 stem (660m spacing, not standard)

Nothing else really notable about the set that can't be seen from the eBay listing.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 30 June 2014, 08:30:43
Thanks for the update!

What's your first impression of the keys?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 08:47:46
Amazing! I already had a set since I owned the FC750r but really wanted another.

Each of the keys are 1.5mm thick, shift keys, enter, spacebar. Quality is unmatched, the keys all have nice clean square edges, not rounded.

I'm on mobile though I have posted some gallery links of pics.

Profile height is about identical to Cherry keys, difference being the shape (squared edges) and if most GMK sets are similarity produced to the 'authentic cherry keys' on elitekeyboards.com than I would say they are better made than GMK's in that each key is 1.5mm thick, whereas with GMK only the the 1u keys are 1.5mm, the others (alt, enter keys) were noticeably thinner (1.1-1.3).

Texture is really smooth but not slick like ABS.

Great value IMO, as mentioned earlier I was thinking of writing a review for the Leopold stating 'buy this board, if only for the keyset!'
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:00:23
Sounds great!

Now I have to decide between blank and sideprinted :p
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:17:08
Side-printed is pretty subtle and is nice for when you need to use characters like %$@

Took some pics of the keys on my Leopold Numpad!!

(http://i.imgur.com/6G28mOL.jpg)

More pics: http://imgur.com/a/W7eFz

Had to sub-in a few keys for the top row.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Battou62 on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:20:04
I wonder where these caps come from, and if they plan on making new colors available.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: damorgue on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:23:59
I am also curious as they are freakishly close to the real deal. They have what to me is Cherry profiles most notable feature, the gradual radii which approaches a sharp edge at the bottom corners instead of constant radii. Mostly posting to keep tabs of this thread and if people end up finding a manufacturer of PBT Cherry profile keys.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:33:56
(http://i.imgur.com/UyhZbCF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/eJi8rBw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/m4Lskdw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wzNqrYM.jpg)

Gallery Links:
http://imgur.com/a/tWAbu
http://imgur.com/a/h02Aw

Set compared to these keys:

Red Esc: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_redesc
Enter: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_red_enter
Ctrl: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_blu_ctrl
Alt Keys: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_grn_alt
Arrow Keys: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_red_arrow

Also bought yet another set, because dog victimized the other: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59984.0
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:37:00
I would also like to find out what factory is making them. It may be a nice source for future groupbuy sets.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:39:40
I would also like to find out what factory is making them. It may be a nice source for future groupbuy sets.

If I could get this in Red (other colors could work too) that would be sweett, with or without legends but would prefer with front printed.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:39:48
Thanks for the detailed comparison, Gsimon!

I think I might get these.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 30 June 2014, 09:41:13
I would also like to find out what factory is making them. It may be a nice source for future groupbuy sets.

Ivan, do you think you can dyesub these with black ink? That would be hawt!

Also, are you going to dye sub test the set that you just ordered?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 30 June 2014, 10:05:50
Blanks just ordered :D
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 13:39:42
Correction

The kit only includes two caps lock keys. The stepped key and the non-stepped key with the window (both with front printed legends). The one that has caps lock printed on top is not included and is only available as an extra if you own the Leopold FC750r

The stepped key was in a tiny bag with an additional shift key, which at first glance I thought was 2 caps lock keys
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 23:11:52
So I messaged widebasket, the person selling the caps, to see if I could any information about who produces the keys. I got this response:

Hello,
Thank you for your purchase and inquiry.
The Leopold company is residing in South Korea, and it is famous for their keyboards.
The brand is "Leopold".
They are produced in three different assembly locations depending on the models.
le.The models FC660M and FC210TP are produced (assembled) in South Korea, FC750R and FC600R are done in Taiwan, and the models FC660C and FC300R are assembled in China.
This KEYCAP is produced in Taiwan factory.
As if iPhone is produced in China, but the Apple Company is in the USA.
All the patents, designs, technologies, and the rights are owned by The Leopold Company.
thank you.

Probably not all that helpful but I tried!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 30 June 2014, 23:15:04
Well, that's solid information.

The factory in Taiwan must have an email address. So we should just try to contact them and ask for bulk orders.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 30 June 2014, 23:42:54
This is all I could dig up on where it could be:

http://www.taiwanservices.com.tw/org2/0/company_detail/en_US/164012

might just be the Leopold HQ and not the factory, but might be the same city at least?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:09:46
The biggest thing is that I doubt Leopold is making the keycap themselves, but outsourcing it to some other plastics company somewhere... the big trick is getting Leopold to tell us who... then trick 2 is to find out if those molds are exclusive to Leopold and if they will take custom orders for them if not.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 02 July 2014, 08:28:34
Leopold have probably bought rights of some sort and we need to ask them for permission either way, might was well put it in a way so that we don't appear to want to bypass them or leave them out of the supply chain. They might be more willing to help if they see potential profits or if they can get some benefit from it.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Thu, 03 July 2014, 12:26:35
I updated the OP link for side-print - they are back in stock.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:05:52
The seller now carries Black side-print PBT - I added the link to the OP; just incase the "Navy" color wasn't appealing to you.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:24:23
The seller now carries Black side-print PBT - I added the link to the OP; just incase the "Navy" color wasn't appealing to you.

Here's hoping for a blank black set  ;D
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Fri, 04 July 2014, 21:03:54
The seller now carries Black side-print PBT - I added the link to the OP; just incase the "Navy" color wasn't appealing to you.

Gah, had I known I would have waited to pick up this instead. Ah well, blue ain't so bad either.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 July 2014, 14:23:26
The seller now carries Black side-print PBT - I added the link to the OP; just incase the "Navy" color wasn't appealing to you.

Here's hoping for a blank black set  ;D

Me too :p
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: luisbg on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:57:36
I wish they had more colors. I want a white (or light color) spacebar that is compatible with my FC660M.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Sat, 05 July 2014, 20:47:13
I wish they had more colors. I want a white (or light color) spacebar that is compatible with my FC660M.

Regardless of color it wouldn't be the correct spacing.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: luisbg on Sun, 06 July 2014, 01:46:51
I wish they had more colors. I want a white (or light color) spacebar that is compatible with my FC660M.

Regardless of color it wouldn't be the correct spacing.

Really? I thought it would be compatible. Sad panda.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Sun, 06 July 2014, 08:00:49
I wish they had more colors. I want a white (or light color) spacebar that is compatible with my FC660M.

Regardless of color it wouldn't be the correct spacing.

The vendor lists the 660M as compatible.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: GSimon on Sun, 06 July 2014, 13:16:58
Oh ****, it does fit. The 2nd spacebar (3 stem) is the Leopold 660m spacing

I poorly reviewed this set initially, 2nd mistake I caught...
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: luisbg on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:53:14
Oh ****, it does fit. The 2nd spacebar (3 stem) is the Leopold 660m spacing

I poorly reviewed this set initially, 2nd mistake I caught...

Cool! Thanks for correcting and letting me know.

Will watch out to see if they release these in other colors.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:38:14
Got my set today. Very nice, definitely recommend.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: luisbg on Mon, 07 July 2014, 15:37:31
Got my set today. Very nice, definitely recommend.

Share some pictures. We want to see.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Mon, 07 July 2014, 19:44:54
Post Office has mine ... need to pick them up tomorrow.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Mon, 07 July 2014, 20:40:54
I asked the seller about blank black keys and this was his response
Quote
Hello,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The Leopold blank black keycap set are not available yet.
i will send you info then it available.
thank you.

- widebasket

So it sounds like they will be coming in the future  :cool:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 05:23:21
Got my set today. Very nice, definitely recommend.

How close to cherry profile are they?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 08 July 2014, 09:33:11
Close enough that if you mixed you wouldn't notice.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 08 July 2014, 13:28:56
I asked the seller about blank black keys and this was his response
Quote
Hello,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The Leopold blank black keycap set are not available yet.
i will send you info then it available.
thank you.

- widebasket

So it sounds like they will be coming in the future  :cool:

Thanks for sharing this info  :thumb:

Please post in this thread as soon as they are available so I don't miss them :p
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:15:51
 :-*  I received my set today.  I felt like a baller getting something delivered from South Korea - like either I'm a secret agent or I've got stacks ...

That being said !  It feels odd being the creator of this thread and saying this ... BUT I NO LIKE THEM  :eek: :p

Seriously though they are some nice keycaps to be sure - I just like POM better; that's the endgame keycap material for myself.

I may mix this up with the G81-3000 POM set that SP sells.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Battou62 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:33:32
:-*  I received my set today.  I felt like a baller getting something delivered from South Korea - like either I'm a secret agent or I've got stacks ...

That being said !  It feels odd being the creator of this thread and saying this ... BUT I NO LIKE THEM  :eek: :p

Seriously though they are some nice keycaps to be sure - I just like POM better; that's the endgame keycap material for myself.

I may mix this up with the G81-3000 POM set that SP sells.

But the legends are so dark : (

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58903.0
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:18:50
I received a blank "navy blue" kit today from the Korean seller on eBay, and I really recommend it.

The "navy blue" is so dark that it looks practically like black, unless you have something really black right next to it to compare against.

There are two 6.25u Space bars in the kit, one of which is a "universal" bar that fits not only some Leopold models but most others as well - including my Cherry G80-3000.
There are two centre-stemmed Caps Lock keys, one with a window and one that is stepped (1.5).
There is an extra 1.25u and an extra 1u key for the bottom row, so you would need only to add a L-shaped Return key to get a ISO set.

I did the "acetone test" on a few keys, and the keys passed, including the windowed keys and the space bars!

The profile is Cherry. The only differences are in the radiuses and sharpness of the edges to the top surface and that the sides are textured instead of gloss. There are sprues on the bottom of the keys that would make them look somewhat different if you compare them on a flat surface.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:28:36
Thanks for your review!

So far all first impressions were very positive. I can't wait to order a blank black set for myself  :)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: damorgue on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:50:48
Could someone please take a cloe-up picture with a Cherry profile cap. The first thing I noticed is that the radii looked a lot alike Cherry but the pictures aren't that great. Findecanor, did you compare it to Cherry PBT or Cherry ABS?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: luisbg on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:10:22
I tried taking off the spacebar of my Leopold FC660M and I just couldn't figure it out :(
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:15:03
Findecanor, did you compare it to Cherry PBT or Cherry ABS?
It is the radius at the corners of the top surface I was referring to. The corners are sharp at the bottom like on Cherry's keycaps. It might be that the radius is a tiny bit larger only because the edges around the top surface are sharper.

ps. I would have taken pictures if my camera hadn't acted up...
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: RED-404 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:40:59
I have the Navy Blank set on the way. Will take crappy pics when I get them in.
Can't stop checking tracking. https://www.aftership.com/b17WhuMp
I need help...

Edit: Spelling did I get them all this time??
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:50:51
GSimon has a bunch of comparison photos on the previous page. I am not sure how much more can be shown really?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Battou62 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 13:27:16
GSimon has a bunch of comparison photos on the previous page. I am not sure how much more can be shown really?

C'mon Ivan, It's not like you have GB's to run or anything :P
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 02:04:50
GSimon has a bunch of comparison photos on the previous page. I am not sure how much more can be shown really?
A side shot would be cool. To compare the slope of the key. And height.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: damorgue on Sat, 12 July 2014, 04:46:01
And to see the radii which Findecanor mentions. I still don't get if it is the radii around the edge of the top cylindrical surface, or if it is the radii between the four sides which at the top ends are too large/small. It would be neat to have a picture which shows this difference.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 17 July 2014, 03:37:50
vs. Imsto (on a QFR)

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 17 July 2014, 03:59:25
vortex - imsto - leo
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 08:21:14
Thank you for that comparison. I might as well go ahead and pick up a set to tide me over until my dolch set gets here. This seems like a really good deal.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 17 July 2014, 12:58:46
Thank you for that comparison. I might as well go ahead and pick up a set to tide me over until my dolch set gets here. This seems like a really good deal.

Yeah, but I am still waiting for the black blanks :)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Thu, 17 July 2014, 13:07:21
BTW: The seller (widebasket) can get you any switch FC750R you want as long as it has english/korean keycaps.  The sideprint/blank FC750R is out of stock everywhere and they are not sure when Leopold will produce more.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lazylex on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:18:27
Just got mine in today -- ordered on July 9th so roughly 7 business day delivery to AZ in case anyone is wondering about realistic delivery times. Not bad at all.

They feel and look absolutely fantastic -- thinking about picking up the navy set as well.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lolkey on Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:32:55
Anyone know how the navy pbt looks on black keyboard like a Filco?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: jameslr on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:56:51
Anyone know how the navy pbt looks on black keyboard like a Filco?

I just painted my Filco flat white with satin clear coat. With these keycaps it's a nicely understated aesthetic and the caps are a dream to type on. I really want a white set of these caps with navy dyesub printing.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lolkey on Mon, 28 July 2014, 05:56:49
Anyone know how the navy pbt looks on black keyboard like a Filco?

I just painted my Filco flat white with satin clear coat. With these keycaps it's a nicely understated aesthetic and the caps are a dream to type on. I really want a white set of these caps with navy dyesub printing.

Does the stepped capslock key fit?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:50:55
Does the stepped capslock key fit?
It does actually have a centred stem, so it should.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:45:14
updated OP links.  Seller has added white side print and navy top printed english/korea sets.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:48:07
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy" && Black 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 06 August 2014, 17:01:43
I asked the seller about blank black keys and this was his response
Quote
Hello,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The Leopold blank black keycap set are not available yet.
i will send you info then it available.
thank you.

- widebasket

So it sounds like they will be coming in the future  :cool:

Does leopold even make black blank pbt besides the Leopold FC660M? I've never seen them on a standard board.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 09 August 2014, 09:14:09
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.

I'm not really into doing reviews or anything but I'm still typing on these caps so that means I must be liking them and honestly I'm not usually a fan of PBT caps. The longer I type on these they just feel smooth as I type. It's weird and hard to explain. But for the price these are a definite buy, I'm also enjoying the side print although it makes for awkward conversation when my boss starts asking me how many keyboards I have.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 09 August 2014, 09:16:03
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.
it makes for awkward conversation when my boss starts asking me how many keyboards I have.

So what was your answer?

:p
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 09:19:10
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.
it makes for awkward conversation when my boss starts asking me how many keyboards I have.
So what was your answer?
:p

Let me guess, his answer could be "Don't you have anything to do, boss?"  :))
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 09 August 2014, 09:22:12
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.
it makes for awkward conversation when my boss starts asking me how many keyboards I have.

So what was your answer?

 :p
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.
it makes for awkward conversation when my boss starts asking me how many keyboards I have.
So what was your answer?
 :p

Let me guess, his answer could be "Don't you have anything to do, boss?"  :))

I was like oh that is the same keyboard I always use just with different caps......then has asked how many caps I had....I just avoided that question by changing the subject... :))

Thankfully no one ever asks what this stuff costs.... :-\
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Novus on Sat, 09 August 2014, 23:57:11
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.

what is your clack of keyboard (cup of tea)?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 10 August 2014, 00:17:47
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.

what is your clack of keyboard (cup of tea)?

So far I haven't found anything that suites me quite like double shot GMK caps, specifically dolch colorway.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 01:20:44
I was like oh that is the same keyboard I always use just with different caps......then has asked how many caps I had....I just avoided that question by changing the subject... :))
Thankfully no one ever asks what this stuff costs.... :-\
Indeed, we don't want to be judged based on the number of our keyboards. I kept 2 keyboards at my works so I cloaked the Leopold Ninja PBT black on the Cherry one to keep it look usual :cool:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lolkey on Fri, 15 August 2014, 06:49:37
Anyone know how to translate this? Trying to see if they sell black blanks.

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1404096898
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: bueller on Fri, 15 August 2014, 06:56:27
Anyone know how to translate this? Trying to see if they sell black blanks.

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1404096898
The eBay seller said that he confirmed they do and he should be putting some up for sale in the future.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: lolkey on Fri, 15 August 2014, 21:32:56
Anyone know how to translate this? Trying to see if they sell black blanks.

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1404096898
The eBay seller said that he confirmed they do and he should be putting some up for sale in the future.

Hmm? I asked him about black blank and he just said no.  :))
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: qwack on Fri, 05 September 2014, 07:50:39
Thanks for the find, I ordered one set and the quality is superb.

Just one thing, I ordered black caps (side-printed) and I think I got navy ones. They look black, except when there is something actually black next to them — then they look noticeably... bluer. And there is no color reference on the package, so I cannot check. Anybody noticed the same thing with their (supposedly) black keyset ?

I admit it's no big deal, as the bluish tint is barely noticeable, but now I'd like to know if navy blanks would be the same color as I got, or if they would have a more pronounced blue tint.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 05 September 2014, 08:28:58
Thanks for the find, I ordered one set and the quality is superb.

Just one thing, I ordered black caps (side-printed) and I think I got navy ones. They look black, except when there is something actually black next to them — then they look noticeably... bluer. And there is no color reference on the package, so I cannot check. Anybody noticed the same thing with their (supposedly) black keyset ?

I admit it's no big deal, as the bluish tint is barely noticeable, but now I'd like to know if navy blanks would be the same color as I got, or if they would have a more pronounced blue tint.

My black set is definitely black.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 05 September 2014, 09:01:46
Still waiting for my set to arrive. Seriously anxious now.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: saturnotaku on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:36:03
Still waiting for my set to arrive. Seriously anxious now.

When did you order? I bought a set of Realforce caps from that seller, and even though they shipped the next day, it took almost 3 weeks to arrive, despite my being in the US. You might have a similar wait, perhaps longer depending on how efficient/corrupt the Turkish postal system is.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:41:53
I ordered last Friday and it shipped on Tuesday. Turkish postal services aren't that terrible, stuff I order from China usually arrives in 3 weeks. UK is about a week. This is being shipped from Korea so I'm guessing 2 weeks or so, we'll see.

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Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: qwack on Tue, 09 September 2014, 06:22:01
My black set is definitely black.

Thanks for the feedback. Here is how my set looks:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1042331/Keyboard/Misc/Leo%20on%20Pure%20Pro.jpg)

I seem to be the only one complaining, so either I'm excessively picky or it was a one-time mistake from the seller. In any case, if this is indeed Leopold's navy and not black, it's good news — their navy set is dark enough for me and I'll probably get a blank set.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 09 September 2014, 06:59:18
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/09/db0b7d787c078c8cc15382a4903b228e.jpg)

A crappy cell pic of mine.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: oscillik on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:50:48
I bought the Black side printed ones, and I'm very very impressed with them. They've replaced the WASD ABS keycaps that came with my CODE Keyboard, and the difference is like night and day.

They have an almost ceramic quality to the feel of them. Makes me wish I could have PBT caps on my ThinkPad :(

edit: potato pic
(http://i.imgur.com/Uof6mVq.jpg)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 09 September 2014, 10:05:59
Good to hear that everyone is enjoying their sets, can't wait for mine to arrive.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 12 September 2014, 14:32:21
So mine arrived today and I must say that I am quite pleased with them. They look fantastic. One thing that surprised me was how much the sound got dampened, switching over from ABS caps. Not only is the sound dampened but it feels like the keys have built in o-rings in them, if that makes any sense. My board with MX Blues just got a lot quieter. Which is a tad disappointing perhaps.

Another gripe is the space bar but that's probably my fault for not fitting it properly, it tends to stick. I'll be playing around with that a bit more. Here are some pictures I just took.

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/1_zps3448574b.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/1_zps3448574b.jpg.html)

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/2_zpscd457062.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/2_zpscd457062.jpg.html)

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/3_zps5c1c2c5d.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/3_zps5c1c2c5d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:10:17
I love these caps. The profile is great and the texture feels nice. My problem is that they rub slightly against the Costar stabilizers on my QFR and RK-9000. I don't really feel like grinding down the lip of the keycaps, so I'm going to put these back in the closet until I can get in on a GB for a universal TKL plate and convert my QFR to Cherry stabilizers.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 12 September 2014, 17:52:33
I took them off the initial board I had put them on, I put them on my Poker II instead. The MX Blues were so muffled and I didn't like it, the sound was way too dampened and they just felt bad to press. I noticed that they are quite shorter in height than the stock Filco caps I had, so I guess that was interfering with the switch or something. They're about the same height as the stock Poker II caps, so they fit perfectly on there. Sadly, I had to put the crappy ABS caps back on the other board. I guess the profile just isn't correct.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: jameslr on Fri, 12 September 2014, 18:36:14
Thick cherry profile caps don't work the best with costar stabilized boards it seems. I have these on my novatouch and I love them.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 12 September 2014, 18:49:02
We need a supply of blank ISO Enter keys to go with these.
The legends on my lasered Cherry keys don't sand off so easily....
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 12 September 2014, 19:38:39
Thick cherry profile caps don't work the best with costar stabilized boards it seems. I have these on my novatouch and I love them.

Any sets that you could suggest? I'm looking for a black blank set preferably.

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: jameslr on Fri, 12 September 2014, 19:55:55
Thick cherry profile caps don't work the best with costar stabilized boards it seems. I have these on my novatouch and I love them.

Any sets that you could suggest? I'm looking for a black blank set preferably.

None that I can personally recommend. I'm not a fan of blank caps, and my current favorites are all cherry profile. I do know you can get a blank black set of DSA profile PBT caps from Signature Plastics via their pimpmykeyboard.com storefront. Can't really vouch for them personally though, but I do know many people like them.

It sounds like PBT may not be for you if you don't like the texture of the Leopold caps. I personally think the leopold caps have the best finish I've felt on any PBT.

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:08:28
Thick cherry profile caps don't work the best with costar stabilized boards it seems. I have these on my novatouch and I love them.

Any sets that you could suggest? I'm looking for a black blank set preferably.

None that I can personally recommend. I'm not a fan of blank caps, and my current favorites are all cherry profile. I do know you can get a blank black set of DSA profile PBT caps from Signature Plastics via their pimpmykeyboard.com storefront. Can't really vouch for them personally though, but I do know many people like them.

It sounds like PBT may not be for you if you don't like the texture of the Leopold caps. I personally think the leopold caps have the best finish I've felt on any PBT.

Oh I love the finish and texture on them, it just didn't work on my other board with Costar stabilizers. I'm guessing it's a height thing with the cap itself - it just didn't feel good pressing down on the MX Blues with them on. The tactility was pretty much gone, like it had o-rings on them. And I hate o-rings. They feel absolutely amazing on my Poker II, so I am very happy with them.

I may give those DSA caps a shot, I've been eyeballing them for a while. I'm just now afraid that I'll have the same problems like I did with this Leopold set. I wonder if they're okay with Costar stabilizers.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:13:59
Oh I love the finish and texture on them, it just didn't work on my other board with Costar stabilizers. I'm guessing it's a height thing with the cap itself - it just didn't feel good pressing down on the MX Blues with them on. The tactility was pretty much gone, like it had o-rings on them. And I hate o-rings. They feel absolutely amazing on my Poker II, so I am very happy with them.

I may give those DSA caps a shot, I've been eyeballing them for a while. I'm just now afraid that I'll have the same problems like I did with this Leopold set. I wonder if they're okay with Costar stabilizers.

It's usually the thickness of the keys that causes issues with Costar stabs, not so much the profile. The Leopold PBT keys are some of the thickest keys I think we've ever seen. I believe pretty much every DSA set produced so far is considered to be either "medium" or "thin" thickness so you should be fine to go with those.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:30:32
Awesome, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Arcoril on Sat, 13 September 2014, 01:51:45
Awesome, thanks for the info.

If you're looking for medium thickness PBT caps that'll play nicely with Costar stabilizers, I actually had some great luck with these cheap Banggood PBT caps (http://www.banggood.com/PBT-87-Blank-White-Key-Caps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84084.html).  The texture's pretty good and you can't beat the price. Plus they make a nice solid clunk when bottoming out without any rubbing.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Sat, 13 September 2014, 02:05:43
If you're looking for medium thickness PBT caps that'll play nicely with Costar stabilizers, I actually had some great luck with these cheap Banggood PBT caps (http://www.banggood.com/PBT-87-Blank-White-Key-Caps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84084.html).  The texture's pretty good and you can't beat the price. Plus they make a nice solid clunk when bottoming out without any rubbing.

+1

I love my BangGood PBT set. They could charge 2x as much and it would still be a good buy.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Sat, 13 September 2014, 10:59:34
Awesome, thanks for the info.

If you're looking for medium thickness PBT caps that'll play nicely with Costar stabilizers, I actually had some great luck with these cheap Banggood PBT caps (http://www.banggood.com/PBT-87-Blank-White-Key-Caps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84084.html).  The texture's pretty good and you can't beat the price. Plus they make a nice solid clunk when bottoming out without any rubbing.

Thanks, that's just perfect. I'm still not sure about the DSA profile, just seems weird to me. I'll definitely be going for these. Cheers!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Karura on Sun, 21 September 2014, 08:13:44
Anyone mix/matching the black and white keycaps?

I'm tired of my keycaps, need thick PBT!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 21 September 2014, 10:40:10
Was there any talk of finding the original vendor of the caps and using term to dye sub?

Imagine the navy blue caps with a black dye text. Very subtle effect.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: jameslr on Mon, 22 September 2014, 08:14:15
Was there any talk of finding the original vendor of the caps and using term to dye sub?

Imagine the navy blue caps with a black dye text. Very subtle effect.

I think Ivan was looking into who was actually making the caps. Dye sub legends on these caps would be nice, but I doubt they're equipped to do it. Might as well just get a set of imsto PBT with cherry legends.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Mon, 22 September 2014, 09:21:25
I think Ivan was looking into who was actually making the caps. Dye sub legends on these caps would be nice, but I doubt they're equipped to do it. Might as well just get a set of imsto PBT with cherry legends.

I don't think it would matter whether that particular manufacturer can handle it or not, I'm assuming Ivan would use the same process that the pitch black set is going through right now; KBC produced all the keys as blanks and then the ones that get dye-subbed get shipped to IMSTO.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: jameslr on Mon, 22 September 2014, 16:19:58

I think Ivan was looking into who was actually making the caps. Dye sub legends on these caps would be nice, but I doubt they're equipped to do it. Might as well just get a set of imsto PBT with cherry legends.

I don't think it would matter whether that particular manufacturer can handle it or not, I'm assuming Ivan would use the same process that the pitch black set is going through right now; KBC produced all the keys as blanks and then the ones that get dye-subbed get shipped to IMSTO.
I see. I did not think about that. Would be cool to see something like this come to fruition.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Tue, 23 September 2014, 07:23:35
Can anybody tell me if the spacebar is 6.25 factor and if the cherry stems placing would fit my WASD v2?
Any other keycaps that won't fit?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 07:41:32
Can anybody tell me if the spacebar is 6.25 factor and if the cherry stems placing would fit my WASD v2?
Any other keycaps that won't fit?
It is 6.25x size, and would fit perfectly in a WASD v2.  They actually include two spacebars in the pack, one with the standard stem spacing, and another with Leopold's older weird spacing that made changing spacebars almost impossible(I guess if you wanted to put it on an older Leopold?).  I'm glad to see they've decided to finally allow their spacebars to be interchangeable.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 23 September 2014, 09:44:18
I also find it funny how they can include TWO PBT space bars in a $40 set and HHKB comes with an ABS space bar..
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:55:10
Can anybody tell me if the spacebar is 6.25 factor and if the cherry stems placing would fit my WASD v2?
Any other keycaps that won't fit?
It is 6.25x size, and would fit perfectly in a WASD v2.  They actually include two spacebars in the pack, one with the standard stem spacing, and another with Leopold's older weird spacing that made changing spacebars almost impossible(I guess if you wanted to put it on an older Leopold?).  I'm glad to see they've decided to finally allow their spacebars to be interchangeable.
Thanks!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 25 September 2014, 07:09:03
Just bought the font facing black set :)

Do you guys know how long it takes to ship?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 September 2014, 07:15:52
Just bought the font facing black set :)

Do you guys know how long it takes to ship?

Mine took 3 weeks from day of purchase to the day I received them. Of course I'm CONUS so Canada could be different.

And on a side note I'm still using these caps on my daily driver, I may buy another set.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 07:43:06
Just bought the font facing black set :)

Do you guys know how long it takes to ship?

Mine took 3 weeks from day of purchase to the day I received them. Of course I'm CONUS so Canada could be different.

And on a side note I'm still using these caps on my daily driver, I may buy another set.  :thumb:
Your seal of approval actually helped persuade me to buy them since I know you're not usually a fan of pbt, so I knew they must be good!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:50:13
Running these on my Poker II and they feel amazing. Potato :

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/IMG_20140925_174607_zps100da1fa.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/IMG_20140925_174607_zps100da1fa.jpg.html)

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:29:11
Just bought the font facing black set :)

Do you guys know how long it takes to ship?

Mine took 3 weeks from day of purchase to the day I received them. Of course I'm CONUS so Canada could be different.

And on a side note I'm still using these caps on my daily driver, I may buy another set.  :thumb:
Thanks!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:37:22
Running these on my Poker II and they feel amazing. Potato :

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/IMG_20140925_174607_zps100da1fa.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/IMG_20140925_174607_zps100da1fa.jpg.html)

Looks great!

I like the classy look with the black gasmask and the Poker Mods  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:54:46
Running these on my Poker II and they feel amazing. Potato :

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/IMG_20140925_174607_zps100da1fa.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/IMG_20140925_174607_zps100da1fa.jpg.html)

Looks great!

I like the classy look with the black gasmask and the Poker Mods  :thumb:

Thanks!  :thumb: All it's waiting for now is the aluminum case I ordered from Massdrop.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 17:33:38
I hope people post more pics of these caps. I really want to try and jump on this.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Fri, 26 September 2014, 05:58:24
Thank you dante, for the tip.
Some potatos.

[attach=1]
vs. some taihao + qfr caps (I really need some stab lube to change them)

[attach=2]

[attach=3]
vs. imsto
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: JustDownloadMoreRAM on Fri, 26 September 2014, 20:39:56
Love these caps, by far my favorite ones. Now if only they used the font the Code uses...

(http://i.imgur.com/ihodL5e.jpg)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: saint_james on Wed, 01 October 2014, 22:43:24
I received my set of Leopold front-print keycaps from Widebasket earlier this week... absolutely satisfied.  Great quality and they feel awesome!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 02 October 2014, 00:58:50
I received my set of Leopold front-print keycaps from Widebasket earlier this week... absolutely satisfied.  Great quality and they feel awesome!
Pics?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: saint_james on Thu, 02 October 2014, 11:50:13
I will post some pics later tonight if I have time... although they look just like the other Leopold front-print PBT keycaps pictured elsewhere in this thread.  My keyboard is nothing special, black case WASD V2 104 fullsize.

I will add that I was concerned about the stabilized keys sticking on the Costar stabilizers... in fact my spacebar did stick on initial installation.  I added o-rings to the keys and the spacebar no longer sticks.  I theorize that adding the o-rings shortens key travel enough to prevent the stabilizers from interfering with the keycap.   
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: pyroman07 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 01:31:12
So will this work on the Leopold FC500R spacebar?  I found this picture, but idk which one of these the 500R uses: https://i.imgur.com/yN2LYfh.jpg

I bought this as my first mechanical looking to get into the scene, and I wanted to get keycaps for it earlier but I haven't been able to find one that will have a spacebar that fits so I never bought a set.

I'm afraid the spacebar will basically be this one (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=sb_u2) which specifically says "DOES NOT FIT Leopold FC500R!"

I can't find a pciture of the second spacebar int his set and I want to make sure I could actually use it.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Fri, 03 October 2014, 08:24:57
Your kb is listed.

[attach=1] [attach=2]
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: JustDownloadMoreRAM on Sat, 04 October 2014, 15:54:51
It'll use either the universal bar or the Leopold-specific one. The sets come with both (notice in my pic I'm using blue bars on the Poker and the 660M at the same time), so you'll be good to go.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: a Horde of Penguins on Mon, 06 October 2014, 17:55:45
will these keycaps work with a das ultimate s? the older vs.
ordered some but thought i should make sure real quick.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 07 October 2014, 05:34:56
will these keycaps work with a das ultimate s? the older vs.
ordered some but thought i should make sure real quick.

Yes.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Attack on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:38:42
Anybody know if either of the spacebars are compatible with an FC700R?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 12 October 2014, 03:40:49
Anybody know if either of the spacebars are compatible with an FC700R?

Yes, there are 2 spacebars in the pack. One fits the FC700R the other one is for regular stem positions.

Source:    I use the sideprinted black set on my FC700R :)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: sunshine on Mon, 13 October 2014, 01:32:00
 :thumb:nice find ,thank you
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Tue, 14 October 2014, 07:36:48
Here are some pics of the change.

http://imgur.com/a/3oczk
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: saint_james on Tue, 14 October 2014, 07:44:54
Here are some pics of the change.

http://imgur.com/a/3oczk
Looks great!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:10:03
Thanks :)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Jason761 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:11:46
Will these fit with Das Keyboard Model S Professional with media controls?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:41:10
Will these fit with Das Keyboard Model S Professional with media controls?

What do you mean by media controls? Do you mean the DAS 4 with the knob?

If so, this set should be compatible as it has the standard bottom row with these key sizes:

1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 (spacebar) - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25

1.0 and 1.5 modifiers are not included in the Leopold set!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Jason761 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 00:49:36

What do you mean by media controls? Do you mean the DAS 4 with the knob?

If so, this set should be compatible as it has the standard bottom row with these key sizes:

1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 (spacebar) - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25

1.0 and 1.5 modifiers are not included in the Leopold set!

I have the one with the fn key.
http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 18 October 2014, 02:05:34

What do you mean by media controls? Do you mean the DAS 4 with the knob?

If so, this set should be compatible as it has the standard bottom row with these key sizes:

1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 (spacebar) - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25

1.0 and 1.5 modifiers are not included in the Leopold set!

I have the one with the fn key.
http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/

Looks like at least the spacebar won't fit and there is no replacement key for the FN key. I wouldn't advise mixing the Leopold and the original keys, because they have different profiles (DAS keys are considerably higher).
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:51:58
I wish these were available in black blank...
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Jason761 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 17:28:59

What do you mean by media controls? Do you mean the DAS 4 with the knob?

If so, this set should be compatible as it has the standard bottom row with these key sizes:

1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 (spacebar) - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25

1.0 and 1.5 modifiers are not included in the Leopold set!

I have the one with the fn key.
http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/

Looks like at least the spacebar won't fit and there is no replacement key for the FN key. I wouldn't advise mixing the Leopold and the original keys, because they have different profiles (DAS keys are considerably higher).

Are there any keycaps that are compatible with my keyboard?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: spOOfy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 17:57:50
Purchased the white side printed keycaps for my black Filco. Now the wait begins.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:16:29
Looks like at least the spacebar won't fit and there is no replacement key for the FN key. I wouldn't advise mixing the Leopold and the original keys, because they have different profiles (DAS keys are considerably higher).
None of the Leopold Space Bars will fit, but the sets do contain eight 1.25 keys that fit the bottom row.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:17:56
Are there any keycaps that are compatible with my keyboard?

Im just guessing the layout from the link that was posted but it looks like your bottom row is:
1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 6 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25

So as long as you find a kit that offers a 6u (not 6.25u) spacebar along with 8x 1.25u mods you should be good to go.

It's closed now but something like the Granite Set that was on MassDrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open#tab-description) should have easily had more than enough keys to cover your Das board.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Veridis on Sat, 18 October 2014, 20:05:11
Just ordered a white side printed set for my Novatouch.  I wanted to get blanks but it would be a pain when having to type one handed or if someone else wanted to use the pc.

Will post potatos later!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:30:19
Are there any keycaps that are compatible with my keyboard?

Im just guessing the layout from the link that was posted but it looks like your bottom row is:
1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 6 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25

So as long as you find a kit that offers a 6u (not 6.25u) spacebar along with 8x 1.25u mods you should be good to go.

It's closed now but something like the Granite Set that was on MassDrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open#tab-description) should have easily had more than enough keys to cover your Das board.
I think the spacebar is only 5 unit. let me check.

yeah, it's 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 5 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:50:21
I think the spacebar is only 5 unit. let me check.

yeah, it's 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 5 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25

Good catch, my bad. I don't think I've ever seen a 5u spacebar offered in an aftermarket set?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:17:31
I think the spacebar is only 5 unit. let me check.

yeah, it's 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 5 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25 x 1.25

Good catch, my bad. I don't think I've ever seen a 5u spacebar offered in an aftermarket set?

SP might have them but I'm watching TV on my other screen and don't want to pause it so I can DL SP's keycap listing, but that's where I'd check.

Other options include: TG3 BL82 (I believe Sp made the keycaps anyway) and ricercar SPOS followed by japanese keyboards. Tipro has a 4 unit I believe. G80-1800 winkey is longer than 5 I believe. I can't think of other sources right now.

It would be a lot easier to sell that thing and buy a different keyboard.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:05:20
I asked widebasket if he had heard anything more about non-printed black PBT sets

Quote
According to Leopold they do not have any production plan for blank Black Keycap set in the near future.
thank you.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:09:23
I asked widebasket if he had heard anything more about non-printed black PBT sets

Quote
According to Leopold they do not have any production plan for blank Black Keycap set in the near future.
thank you.
I find it a little weird they decided to make navy blanks, but no black ones.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:18:20
I asked widebasket if he had heard anything more about non-printed black PBT sets

Quote
According to Leopold they do not have any production plan for blank Black Keycap set in the near future.
thank you.
I find it a little weird they decided to make navy blanks, but no black ones.

Was there most recent keyboard navy blue? That was the only thing I could think of, I was hoping for a blank black set as well.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:22:31
I asked widebasket if he had heard anything more about non-printed black PBT sets

Quote
According to Leopold they do not have any production plan for blank Black Keycap set in the near future.
thank you.
I find it a little weird they decided to make navy blanks, but no black ones.

Was there most recent keyboard navy blue? That was the only thing I could think of, I was hoping for a blank black set as well.
Yeah, the 750r did have a more navyish color to it.  It also came in white, but there aren't any blanks available for that either.  I guess Leopold is big fan of navy blue!  :))
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:24:17
It seems like a no-brainer to me to offer blank blacks, unless they are trying to limit their SKUs for some reason. They already offer side-printed black, just skip sending them to the laser-etcher and throw them in a box with a different label on it.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Mon, 20 October 2014, 10:35:58
I always found it comical how much of a 'struggle' it is for keycap makers to leave the legends off.  They act like they are creating an entirely new type of keycap.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 21 October 2014, 08:10:35
(http://troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/asians.jpg)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: pyroman07 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 02:27:18
I got mine in today.  I really like them so far.  My first PBT set and the spacebar fits the Leopold FC500R!  I was pretty sure it would, but I was still skeptical because no source I could find actually listed the FC500R as sharing the same stem placement as the FC660.

(http://i.imgur.com/XuVXb4t.jpg)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Wed, 22 October 2014, 05:29:04
Those look very nice.

Why did you pick white?
Can they be easily seen in low light?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Dreamnipples on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:12:40
Those look very nice.

Why did you pick white?
Can they be easily seen in low light?

(swithing account since I don't like the name of that other one, I don't really use tht name anymore online)

I chose white because it matches my computer case, and I want to get a few of the novelty dye-subs sometime that come in white.  I also just like the black and white look.  I changed the LEDs in my mouse to be white as well, but I'm not sure if I am going to keep it that way since it just looks so much different.  I don't like typing in the dark, and you can see the keys reasonably well in teh dark, but you can't read the legends as easily (though that isn't really a problem since I'm sure most of us know where everything is on the keyboard).

This is what my setup looks like at the moment.

(http://i.imgur.com/yqo8Mo0.jpg)

In the future I might buy a black set so I can change up the modifiers and the F-keys.  I have to stick to Cherry profile now, and I have no plans on mixing ABS into my PBT caps.


Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Wed, 22 October 2014, 07:14:57
I got mine in today.  I really like them so far.  My first PBT set and the spacebar fits the Leopold FC500R!  I was pretty sure it would, but I was still skeptical because no source I could find actually listed the FC500R as sharing the same stem placement as the FC660.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XuVXb4t.jpg)


Looks great! I'm a huge fan of the stormtrooper look (black and white)  (http://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/thumbsup.gif)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Veridis on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:03:11
Really nice setup Dreamnipples, can't wait for mine to arrive!

It seems like the white side-printed caps have more visibility than the black ones, which is good if someone else uses the keyboard occasionally.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Novus on Wed, 22 October 2014, 13:48:22
Hmm do you think navy will work well on a white keyboard?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: navicella on Wed, 22 October 2014, 19:59:53
I've just replaced my old key set with this leopold key set on my Filco MJ 2. The problem is the keys with stabilizer sometimes stuck and give a sticky feeling when typing. It doesn't happen when I put my old key caps on again. I can't figure out what makes the difference, I already tried to lube the stabilizer but the problem's still there. Can anybody shed some light on it?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: ynrozturk on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:34:24
Same thing happened to me. It also changed the entire feeling of the switch, as if I had put o-rings on it. I think the caps are just too low and just too thick, so they don't really play nice. I unfortunately gave up and ended up using my set on another board.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 23 October 2014, 08:40:55
I've just replaced my old key set with this leopold key set on my Filco MJ 2. The problem is the keys with stabilizer sometimes stuck and give a sticky feeling when typing. It doesn't happen when I put my old key caps on again. I can't figure out what makes the difference, I already tried to lube the stabilizer but the problem's still there. Can anybody shed some light on it?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63557.0
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 23 October 2014, 10:21:42
Yes... the wire.
There are actually few posts on the subject around here.
On QFR (for example) these caps work just fine. Same for imstos.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 23 October 2014, 14:18:49
I just ordered a set for myself.

Cheapish, and looking to replace my thin PBT front printed caps.

I wish they had more color options though. Would love a classic beige/gray combo
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 14:25:54
I just ordered a set for myself.

Cheapish, and looking to replace my thin PBT front printed caps.

I wish they had more color options though. Would love a classic beige/gray combo
I think you'll really like them, they're fantastic quality for the price.  Only downside is you'll need a bit of patience for them to arrive since they're coming from Korea.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: navicella on Fri, 24 October 2014, 01:44:58
I've just replaced my old key set with this leopold key set on my Filco MJ 2. The problem is the keys with stabilizer sometimes stuck and give a sticky feeling when typing. It doesn't happen when I put my old key caps on again. I can't figure out what makes the difference, I already tried to lube the stabilizer but the problem's still there. Can anybody shed some light on it?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63557.0

Wow thank a lot, will try to modify them tonight  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: yomammary on Fri, 24 October 2014, 07:09:53
I've just replaced my old key set with this leopold key set on my Filco MJ 2. The problem is the keys with stabilizer sometimes stuck and give a sticky feeling when typing. It doesn't happen when I put my old key caps on again. I can't figure out what makes the difference, I already tried to lube the stabilizer but the problem's still there. Can anybody shed some light on it?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63557.0

Wow thank a lot, will try to modify them tonight  :thumb:
No problem, I had the same issue haha.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: eten on Fri, 24 October 2014, 10:55:33
Looking to purchase a Filco MJ2 MX-brown onsale at NCIX and popping these key caps on. Reading through the posts, is there some compatibility issues with stabilizers?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: oscillik on Fri, 24 October 2014, 12:05:52
Looking to purchase a Filco MJ2 MX-brown onsale at NCIX and popping these key caps on. Reading through the posts, is there some compatibility issues with stabilizers?

if your board uses Costar stabilizers, you may need to file down the inside of the keycap for the left shift (and possibly the spacebar) to avoid scratchy action / sticking action.

My WASD CODE keyboard (which uses Costar stabs) hasn't had any trouble though. I guess mileage varies.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 24 October 2014, 17:32:25
I just bought two sets of these. One white side printed set and a navy blank set. I want to combine them, use the blue for mods and f keys, and the white for my alpha numeric keys. Can't wait for them to come in!

This seller actually combined shipping for me... so I got two sets and only paid $18 to the US. Not bad!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Veridis on Fri, 31 October 2014, 12:57:39
The stabilizers sound much louder with these keys, on the Novatouch.

A quick potato:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/Loner1337/DSC09470_zpsf92f194c.jpg)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: deci on Fri, 31 October 2014, 13:26:53
The stabilizers sound much louder with these keys, on the Novatouch.

A quick potato:
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/Loner1337/DSC09470_zpsf92f194c.jpg)


Because the Novatouch stabs only play nice with higher profile key cap profiles (like OEM).
The roof of lower profile keycaps like cherry profile actually hit the plastic nubs at the top of the stabilizer.

A thick or fat o-ring will work as long as it is tall enough to provide enough clearance (the thin stock ones work on some key sets but aren't thick enough for others).
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Veridis on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:36:43
The stabilizers sound much louder with these keys, on the Novatouch.

A quick potato:
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/Loner1337/DSC09470_zpsf92f194c.jpg)


Because the Novatouch stabs only play nice with higher profile key cap profiles (like OEM).
The roof of lower profile keycaps like cherry profile actually hit the plastic nubs at the top of the stabilizer.

A thick or fat o-ring will work as long as it is tall enough to provide enough clearance (the thin stock ones work on some key sets but aren't thick enough for others).

Thanks for the tip! I've tested the keys and the left shift was really clacking hard when depressed. The other stabilized keys only made noises when coming back up.
I prefer not using O rings, but the left shift was hitting the plastic nubs like you said. After putting a single O-ring on the left shift it sounded more like the other keys, with slightly reduced travel.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: spOOfy on Sat, 01 November 2014, 19:56:59
Picked my set up from the post office today since I was at work while  the mailman was making his runs.  Shipping arrival was definitely the minimum estimated delivery time for me. Ordered on Oct 16, arrived at customs on the Oct 26, attempted delivery on Oct 31. It was packed well.

Anyways, I bought the white side printed ones and I'm using it now on my Filco Majestouch 2 w/ MX Blues with no major issues.  The caps feel a bit tight on the keys with the stablizers but there isn't any rubbing or friction going on.  I did, however, had a problem with my left SHIFT key sticking so I just applied some pressure randomly around the keycap hoping it would fix itself and it did. Doesn't stick anymore and all the keys function normally now.  Keycaps feels great.

I'm also going to try them out on my KUL w/ MX Reds later tonight or tomorrow but I don't think there should be any issues seeing as the Cherry stabs are more friendly with this set.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: kebby on Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:40:23
Can anyone comment on how visible the legends are compared to for example the Ducky "gold" side-printed (http://keypuller.com/golden-side-print-by-ducky/) or the Leopold FC660M top printed ones that seem very similar to the Ducky prints? In some pictures they seem very bright white and less in some others. I'd actually prefer if they were fairly stealthy.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: JustDownloadMoreRAM on Wed, 05 November 2014, 00:44:28
Can anyone comment on how visible the legends are compared to for example the Ducky "gold" side-printed (http://keypuller.com/golden-side-print-by-ducky/) or the Leopold FC660M top printed ones that seem very similar to the Ducky prints? In some pictures they seem very bright white and less in some others. I'd actually prefer if they were fairly stealthy.
On the dark caps or the light?

The legends are a bit fainter on the navy caps than the linked Ducky set. The legends on white and blue sets are more legible than the terrible top lasered 660M caps.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: kebby on Wed, 05 November 2014, 02:01:59
Can anyone comment on how visible the legends are compared to for example the Ducky "gold" side-printed (http://keypuller.com/golden-side-print-by-ducky/) or the Leopold FC660M top printed ones that seem very similar to the Ducky prints? In some pictures they seem very bright white and less in some others. I'd actually prefer if they were fairly stealthy.
On the dark caps or the light?

The legends are a bit fainter on the navy caps than the linked Ducky set. The legends on white and blue sets are more legible than the terrible top lasered 660M caps.

I was thinking of the black ones specifically. I guess they could be what I'm looking for then if the ones on the ducky are more clearly visible.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Snowjay on Thu, 20 November 2014, 12:55:40
I want to ask the owners of the white keycaps: Are they snow-white or kind of creamy or beige?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Veridis on Tue, 25 November 2014, 19:23:33
I want to ask the owners of the white keycaps: Are they snow-white or kind of creamy or beige?
Not really white like bleached shirts, more on the creamy/beige side.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: tepoz on Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:13:14
I just bought two sets of these. One white side printed set and a navy blank set. I want to combine them, use the blue for mods and f keys, and the white for my alpha numeric keys. Can't wait for them to come in!

This seller actually combined shipping for me... so I got two sets and only paid $18 to the US. Not bad!

Hey man, do you have an update for us? :D
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: spOOfy on Tue, 02 December 2014, 21:08:51
These caps are great.

I've been using my white side printed caps for a little over a month on my KUL.

Thinking about buying a black keyset.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: tepoz on Thu, 04 December 2014, 02:00:48
I ordered navy blanks three weeks ago and still no dice. The shipping from Korea to Mexico was surprisingly fast, it arrived on the 14th of November, it's just my postal service that is being unusually slow. I hope I get them by next week or so, I'm getting really impatient :/
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 05 December 2014, 19:07:09
Here's mine on a modified QFR. I mixed up two sets... the navy blanks and the side printed white.

(sorry for the potato)

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Rayoui on Sat, 06 December 2014, 12:27:42
My WASDv2 TKL with MX blues.

(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_2949-Edit_zps7c69b209.jpg~original)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: PhatCraqHo on Tue, 23 December 2014, 18:16:51
thanks man, already bought a set a while ago!  :cool:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Wed, 24 December 2014, 09:16:48
Really nice snapshot there Rayoui.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 11 January 2015, 05:37:44
Does the spacebar is PBT also or ABS?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: bowji on Sun, 11 January 2015, 05:39:33
Does the spacebar is PBT also or ABS?

AFAIK the spacebar is also PBT.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 11 January 2015, 05:41:48
Does the spacebar is PBT also or ABS?

AFAIK the spacebar is also PBT.


Alright thanks. When you think of it 40$ shipped for a full thick PBT set, it is quite a bargain!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: bowji on Sun, 11 January 2015, 06:02:08
Does the spacebar is PBT also or ABS?

AFAIK the spacebar is also PBT.


Alright thanks. When you think of it 40$ shipped for a full thick PBT set, it is quite a bargain!

Absolutely, I got the side print version on my ducky and its great. Feel, quality and price speaks for itself  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 11 January 2015, 06:10:48
Does the spacebar is PBT also or ABS?

AFAIK the spacebar is also PBT.

I'm thinking of grabbing for my Novatouch that I'll buy soon.

Alright thanks. When you think of it 40$ shipped for a full thick PBT set, it is quite a bargain!

Absolutely, I got the side print version on my ducky and its great. Feel, quality and price speaks for itself  :thumb:
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 11 January 2015, 08:45:56
Used mine today. I'm not a huge fan of pbt but these are decent caps.

I'm not really into doing reviews or anything but I'm still typing on these caps so that means I must be liking them and honestly I'm not usually a fan of PBT caps. The longer I type on these they just feel smooth as I type. It's weird and hard to explain. But for the price these are a definite buy, I'm also enjoying the side print although it makes for awkward conversation when my boss starts asking me how many keyboards I have.
Still using these on my daily driver.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 11 January 2015, 09:49:35
Still no news of any black blank version?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 11 January 2015, 09:56:58
Still no news of any black blank version?
Widebasket himself said a long time ago that there were no plans to stock blank blacks unfortunately.  I hope with all the inquires he's probably gotten, that he might pass word to either the manufacturer or Leopold that there's lots of interest!  :thumb:

Also, does anyone know how these stack up with KBC/Vortex cherry profile? At first glace, they looked even lower than cherry profile, but not by much, I didn't have anything handy to compare it to though.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 11 January 2015, 10:41:23
Wtf the content of last message didn't show up ...


I was saying that I will buy one black set when I'll receive my NT.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 11 January 2015, 16:51:12
Widebasket himself said a long time ago that there were no plans to stock blank blacks unfortunately.  I hope with all the inquires he's probably gotten, that he might pass word to either the manufacturer or Leopold that there's lots of interest!  :thumb:
Yes — that is what he told me too when I asked him some months back. But I was hoping that maybe, by some miracle, things could have changed. It's just so silly, IMO, that Leopold does not manufacture black blanks...
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 11 January 2015, 16:54:07
Widebasket himself said a long time ago that there were no plans to stock blank blacks unfortunately.  I hope with all the inquires he's probably gotten, that he might pass word to either the manufacturer or Leopold that there's lots of interest!  :thumb:
Yes — that is what he told me too when I asked him some months back. But I was hoping that maybe, by some miracle, things could have changed. It's just so silly, IMO, that Leopold does not manufacture black blanks...


Especially considering they already do side printed version of it. They have all the materials needed for it. Just need to forget the printing process. What kind of printing process is used by the way? Dyesub?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Sun, 11 January 2015, 17:00:40
Especially considering they already do side printed version of it. They have all the materials needed for it. Just need to forget the printing process. What kind of printing process is used by the way? Dyesub?

Laser
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 11 January 2015, 17:16:13
Just need to forget the printing process.
Exactly. That's why it is mind boggling to me. Anyhow...
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 11 January 2015, 18:16:07
Just need to forget the printing process.
Exactly. That's why it is mind boggling to me. Anyhow...


Maybe there is something we don't know.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 11 January 2015, 20:11:34
This is AABCDD profile right?  Is the texture on these perhaps grainy like keycool and sp dcs caps? (I've been looking for caps like that with no success) Is there a version available with front facing legends?  Is anyone preferring these to bsp/gmk/cherry dyesub?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: dante on Sun, 11 January 2015, 20:32:25
Just need to forget the printing process.
Exactly. That's why it is mind boggling to me. Anyhow...


Maybe there is something we don't know.

This has been a mystery to me since joining GeekHack several years ago.

I think it boils down simply is that - we both know that the keycaps will eventually sell out - but they still don't want to take a risk of having to warehouse all those keycaps.  Hence why they want moq's of 400 and such.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 12 January 2015, 03:09:06
Just need to forget the printing process.
Exactly. That's why it is mind boggling to me. Anyhow...


Maybe there is something we don't know.

This has been a mystery to me since joining GeekHack several years ago.

I think it boils down simply is that - we both know that the keycaps will eventually sell out - but they still don't want to take a risk of having to warehouse all those keycaps.  Hence why they want moq's of 400 and such.


Maybe running the machines is quite expensive and they don't want to run them for nothing i.e really little quantity. Or perhaps they just don't give a **** about us  :'(
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 15 January 2015, 04:46:29
Just like to mention that the thick double-shot red ESC came as a gift for the white, side printed set.
(I already bought few various sets from the seller - don't know if that meant something)

A very nice touch.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:34:06
This is AABCDD profile right?  Is the texture on these perhaps grainy like keycool and sp dcs caps?
BBCDEE: yes
front-facing: yes
texture: more than Cherry/GMK, less than SP DCS.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:04:24
Just like to mention that the thick double-shot red ESC came as a gift for the white, side printed set.
(I already bought few various sets from the seller - don't know if that meant something)

A very nice touch.


Indeed that's a nice attention there. I wish I'll have one too once I'll order :D
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 17 January 2015, 10:16:37
For those who ordered a set, how long did it take to be delivered?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 January 2015, 10:19:11
For those who ordered a set, how long did it take to be delivered?

Just bought the font facing black set :)

Do you guys know how long it takes to ship?

Mine took 3 weeks from day of purchase to the day I received them. Of course I'm CONUS so Canada could be different.

And on a side note I'm still using these caps on my daily driver, I may buy another set.  :thumb:

Although time of year (holidays) could affect shipping time I'm sure.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 17 January 2015, 12:22:24
For those who ordered a set, how long did it take to be delivered?

Just bought the font facing black set :)

Do you guys know how long it takes to ship?

Mine took 3 weeks from day of purchase to the day I received them. Of course I'm CONUS so Canada could be different.

And on a side note I'm still using these caps on my daily driver, I may buy another set.  :thumb:

Although time of year (holidays) could affect shipping time I'm sure.


Thank for the quote.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Mon, 19 January 2015, 02:39:03
It took 11 days to arrive in RO.
(and another week to have them...)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: bueller on Mon, 19 January 2015, 02:53:53
Anyone know how tough the side printing is? I'm kind of tempted to get a set and see if I can remove the lettering with some rubbing alcohol.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Rayoui on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:17:36
It appears to be infilled. I do not believe it will come off easily.


(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_3054_zps3e5a3dca.jpg~original)

(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_3054-Edit-2_zpse498abee.jpg~original)
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:18:19
Are you sure that's not straight lasered?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: bueller on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:18:44
It appears to be infilled. I do not believe it will come off easily.


Show Image
(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_3054_zps3e5a3dca.jpg~original)


Show Image
(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_3054-Edit-2_zpse498abee.jpg~original)


Damn it. Cheers man.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Rayoui on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:29:00
Are you sure that's not straight lasered?

Could be, but I was under the impression if it was just lasered, it would be recessed into the surface. It's actually slightly risen from the surrounding surface.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:34:13
Are you sure that's not straight lasered?

Could be, but I was under the impression if it was just lasered, it would be recessed into the surface. It's actually slightly risen from the surrounding surface.

I was asking because it doesn't look like the infilled I'm used too.  Instead, it looks like the plastic was basically brought to a boiling point, causing it to raise, darken, and part of it to char. 
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 19 January 2015, 05:11:06
It took 11 days to arrive in RO.
(and another week to have them...)
Sorry but what is RO?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: strict on Mon, 19 January 2015, 07:52:10
Are you sure that's not straight lasered?

Could be, but I was under the impression if it was just lasered, it would be recessed into the surface. It's actually slightly risen from the surrounding surface.

I was asking because it doesn't look like the infilled I'm used too.  Instead, it looks like the plastic was basically brought to a boiling point, causing it to raise, darken, and part of it to char. 

It looks like pure lasered to me. Infilled is usually mostly flush and smooth. Lasered doesn't always mean it indents down into the key like you see on the Ducky sets. In this instance it looks like they got the laser to the point of basically deforming the plastic in a controlled manner.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: gigibecali on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:20:48
Lasered.

I've seen much worse jobs.
These are just fine if you're not looking too close.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:47:54
Sorry but what is RO?
Romania.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 24 January 2015, 09:00:06
I ordered my set on January the 17th and I just checked out today the set arrrived at Paris. It means it could be delivered during the next week. It was fast to come I didn't expect it to be that fast to arrive in France.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:52:55
Is this for your Novatouch, Ngt ?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 24 January 2015, 21:14:48
Is this for your Novatouch, Ngt ?
Yes I was looking for a PBT set that I could get quickly as most GB ATM will be received in few months. Why?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 25 January 2015, 06:12:43
Just asking. : )
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 25 January 2015, 09:43:33
Just asking. : )


Alright. :)


Are you from EU too?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 25 January 2015, 10:52:49
I am indeed.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:07:59
I am indeed.


Yeah that's what I recalled from reading a post of yours a while ago.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 25 January 2015, 18:15:05
J'vis actuellement dans le même pays que toi ;)

I did not see if you mentioned it elsewhere; have you received your Novatouch yet? If not what's the ETA?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 26 January 2015, 04:11:45
J'vis actuellement dans le même pays que toi ;)

I did not see if you mentioned it elsewhere; have you received your Novatouch yet? If not what's the ETA?
Haha je savais pas que tu étais en France aussi.

I did not receive my Novatouch yet. I think it is sitting in the post office atm. I just need to go there and pick it up.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 28 January 2015, 06:05:41
Received the PBT set yesterday. Ordered on the 17/01, delivered on the 27/01. Damn that's fast considering it traveled from South Korea to France.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 28 January 2015, 12:33:37
Indeed like I read on other comments depending on the light sometimes the keyset doesn't seem to have the same black as my keyboard. Maybe it is just the black of the set is lighter than we what we used to. But I like how the sound change a bit. It is definitely a bit deeper than with the stock ABS caps.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:26:24
Does anyone have some shots of the navy blanks? How bright is the color?

The ebay photos actually make them look very close to black.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:40:15
I put some pictures up over here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59950.msg1516646#msg1516646).  They definitely look black but if you put them next to the actually-black ones you will see a difference.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:44:58
Thanks! You wouldn't happen to have a comparison shot?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:54:19
Don't have the black ones with me at the moment.  I will try to remember to bring one to work tomorrow.  Unfortunately, white balance of pictures I take at home is quite bad due to my love of yellow lighting :))
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:05:26
Love these caps, by far my favorite ones. Now if only they used the font the Code uses...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ihodL5e.jpg)


I'm thinking the above pic shows black on top and blue on bottom.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:48:29
Love these caps, by far my favorite ones. Now if only they used the font the Code uses...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ihodL5e.jpg)


I'm thinking the above pic shows black on top and blue on bottom.

I must respectfully disagree.  Unless he said something to indicate this is the case, I think it more likely he is just mixing the white and the navy set across two boards.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 31 January 2015, 07:19:32
Love these caps, by far my favorite ones. Now if only they used the font the Code uses...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ihodL5e.jpg)


I'm thinking the above pic shows black on top and blue on bottom.

I must respectfully disagree.  Unless he said something to indicate this is the case, I think it more likely he is just mixing the white and the navy set across two boards.

Oops you are correct sir! I forgot the set comes with more than one spacebar. :facepalm:

It'll use either the universal bar or the Leopold-specific one. The sets come with both (notice in my pic I'm using blue bars on the Poker and the 660M at the same time), so you'll be good to go.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 31 January 2015, 07:47:31
The spacebar with the double stem was hard to put onto my Novatouch. I had to force his way in. At beginning I thought it wouldn't fit and it made me sad. I thought I would have to stick with the ABS but having a beautiful set of PBT caps nearby.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 31 January 2015, 13:59:40
My apologies for delaying this but I completely forgot to bring the caps to work.  Anyway this is a picture showing off the navy vs the black caps.  Forgive the focus.

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Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 31 January 2015, 17:49:57
My apologies for delaying this but I completely forgot to bring the caps to work.  Anyway this is a picture showing off the navy vs the black caps.  Forgive the focus.

(Attachment Link)


Black is on the right? It is hard to see the difference between the two colors to be honest.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 31 January 2015, 18:11:05
Thanks for the pic. Basically it's black vs. the blackest blackness.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 31 January 2015, 22:58:33
My apologies for delaying this but I completely forgot to bring the caps to work.  Anyway this is a picture showing off the navy vs the black caps.  Forgive the focus.

(Attachment Link)


Black is on the right? It is hard to see the difference between the two colors to be honest.

Black in the one on the yellow keyboard.  Navy is the one on the blue numpad.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: animated on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:07:31
I ordered the black set, its been stuck in customs for the last week  :(  great informative picture though, i was debating between black and navy for a couple of days.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 01 February 2015, 10:27:44
I still can't make my mind up if the Navy set will bother me or not (my keyboards are black). On some pics they look like very dark blue, on others like Vortex's dark grey.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 01 February 2015, 11:37:57
I still can't make my mind up if the Navy set will bother me or not (my keyboards are black). On some pics they look like very dark blue, on others like Vortex's dark grey.
Just pick the black. That's what I got and I love it so far. It is side printed but when the sun sets you get a blank keyboard if your place is not light that much.

However I had to force to put it onto my NT.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: KaLam1ty on Sun, 01 February 2015, 13:42:25
I still can't make my mind up if the Navy set will bother me or not (my keyboards are black). On some pics they look like very dark blue, on others like Vortex's dark grey.

It's all dependent on the lighting conditions of your room - that's how dark they are.
If anything, they appear to be a slightly greyer value under warm light. Otherwise, the blue is more obvious.

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 09 February 2015, 04:10:45
Did anyone try this key set on a Novatouch with some o-rings? I'd like to know if there is a difference with it on this key set. Thanks.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 09 February 2015, 04:55:00
Did anyone try this key set on a Novatouch with some o-rings? I'd like to know if there is a difference with it on this key set. Thanks.

Have tried GMK's Dolch Key-set (bought from Ivan) and the O-rings provided by CM is extremely useless and non-effectual.  Instead you have to learn to hold back the force of your typing because it's only 45g on these Novatouch's.

Nothing wrong with them just another type of keyboard that works better with a GMK set or even a BSP set.  Their original thin-walled garbage key-caps are terrible to use until you replace them all with a quality set Made in Germany  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 09 February 2015, 07:17:39
Did anyone try this key set on a Novatouch with some o-rings? I'd like to know if there is a difference with it on this key set. Thanks.

Have tried GMK's Dolch Key-set (bought from Ivan) and the O-rings provided by CM is extremely useless and non-effectual.  Instead you have to learn to hold back the force of your typing because it's only 45g on these Novatouch's.

Nothing wrong with them just another type of keyboard that works better with a GMK set or even a BSP set.  Their original thin-walled garbage key-caps are terrible to use until you replace them all with a quality set Made in Germany  :thumb: .


The dolch was DSA-like profil? I believe the o-ring are useful when you use low profile keys.


Or JD's SA profile.  :p
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 09 February 2015, 18:40:59
The dolch was DSA-like profil? I believe the o-ring are useful when you use low profile keys.


Or JD's SA profile.  :p

What on Earth are you talking about?

I bought into Ivan's, GMK Dolch Group Buy BECAUSE I wanted to have a fully Made in Germany Key-set.  To me that is the ONLY Dolch set worth buying and using on any keyboard made yesterday or today  :thumb: .

Another key thing of note if using an SA Profiled Key-set there is no O-ring that works with it, because it's too high in profile for it to be used, besides really good typists don't need O-rings since they can control their fingers effectively without noise emanating from their keyboards.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:32:36
The dolch was DSA-like profil? I believe the o-ring are useful when you use low profile keys.


Or JD's SA profile.  :p

What on Earth are you talking about?

I bought into Ivan's, GMK Dolch Group Buy BECAUSE I wanted to have a fully Made in Germany Key-set.  To me that is the ONLY Dolch set worth buying and using on any keyboard made yesterday or today  :thumb: .

Another key thing of note if using an SA Profiled Key-set there is no O-ring that works with it, because it's too high in profile for it to be used, besides really good typists don't need O-rings since they can control their fingers effectively without noise emanating from their keyboards.
What elrick means is gmk caps are cherry profile.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 10 February 2015, 02:50:43
The dolch was DSA-like profil? I believe the o-ring are useful when you use low profile keys.


Or JD's SA profile.  :p

What on Earth are you talking about?

I bought into Ivan's, GMK Dolch Group Buy BECAUSE I wanted to have a fully Made in Germany Key-set.  To me that is the ONLY Dolch set worth buying and using on any keyboard made yesterday or today  :thumb: .

Another key thing of note if using an SA Profiled Key-set there is no O-ring that works with it, because it's too high in profile for it to be used, besides really good typists don't need O-rings since they can control their fingers effectively without noise emanating from their keyboards.
What elrick means is gmk caps are cherry profile.


Thank you, you answered the post I was about to make.  :thumb:


The dolch was DSA-like profil? I believe the o-ring are useful when you use low profile keys.


Or JD's SA profile.  :p

What on Earth are you talking about?

I bought into Ivan's, GMK Dolch Group Buy BECAUSE I wanted to have a fully Made in Germany Key-set.  To me that is the ONLY Dolch set worth buying and using on any keyboard made yesterday or today  :thumb: .

Another key thing of note if using an SA Profiled Key-set there is no O-ring that works with it, because it's too high in profile for it to be used, besides really good typists don't need O-rings since they can control their fingers effectively without noise emanating from their keyboards.


IIRC, the NT o-ring are not for noise dampening but used in order to raise the low profile keys on this particular keyboard as it causes a problem in key travel. So I was interesting in dampening the sound but only asking if it makes a difference on this key set.


I'm happy that your Dolch key set suits you well.  ;) 
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: Lpwl on Wed, 11 February 2015, 11:03:44
The dolch was DSA-like profil? I believe the o-ring are useful when you use low profile keys.


Or JD's SA profile.  :p

What on Earth are you talking about?

I bought into Ivan's, GMK Dolch Group Buy BECAUSE I wanted to have a fully Made in Germany Key-set.  To me that is the ONLY Dolch set worth buying and using on any keyboard made yesterday or today  :thumb: .

Another key thing of note if using an SA Profiled Key-set there is no O-ring that works with it, because it's too high in profile for it to be used, besides really good typists don't need O-rings since they can control their fingers effectively without noise emanating from their keyboards.

Does it mean that you are not using the O-rings I sent you few months ago ?

:'(
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: joric on Wed, 28 October 2015, 07:32:11
I'm trying to find the BLACK (front-printed) set.
NAVY blanks are currently available on Ebay but I don't want NAVY, I think they look godawful ugly on the black keyboard.
Recently asked widebasket on ebay if he can order BLACK caps he just answered "out of stock".
These http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1404096898
I don't really know if they are available and google translate is useless with this site.
Is there anybody from Korea that can buy them and send them out?
Or at least make sure they are available and tell how to order them?
Or maybe someone just want to sell those caps?
I also voted on massdrop for them, if someone wants them too, please vote (for side-printed blacks):
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/keycap-set-for-leopold-fc660m
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/side-printed-keycap-set

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 October 2015, 07:37:54
@joric I'm hoping mechanicalkeyboards.com can get some of those.

They recently started selling Leopold boards.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 October 2015, 14:39:50
I just got a FC900 and I must say that I do not particularly fancy these pbt caps, the texture is not to my liking.  I really like the smoothness of bsp and they are the best pbt caps I've tried so far.  Does anyone know which caps come closest to them in feeling?  I have some gateron caps (enjoypbt) coming in from Taobao which I hope will resemble bsp more than these leopold caps.  Others which I haven't tried are these https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-pbt-keycaps but one would need to get them with side prints or blanks because I gather that laser edged legends can be felt.  Also I haven't tried the caps form Ivan's pbt runs, they are from vortex right?  I have pbt round 4 and dark second wave coming in, which are from vortex or gateron, and I also hope they are more like bsp's than these leopold caps.  Hopefully someone can enlighten me which of these I've mentioned are closest to bsp. 
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: joric on Thu, 29 October 2015, 19:57:14
Vortex side-printed keys are currently available here (not very expensive too):
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1336
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: joric on Fri, 30 October 2015, 16:48:24
Also very similar set is here, I think it's actually a better version of leopold caps (some people say it's not cherry but rather a leopold profile).
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-blank-thick-pbt-full-keyset/
I'm currently considering buying it. But it's pretty pricey ($59.95). Costs almost $25 more than navy caps, including shipping.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: samsam on Sat, 31 October 2015, 09:57:12
Just don't get a set from Qtang,

He really F... me when i got a Leopold FC660M with mx clears a while ago..
The key-cap set that came with that buy was really really bad  >:D
if i had to describe the keycap printing method using "Deskthority" it would be "Laser Foamed"
(just take a look at the my pics)

So i had to buy an extra set for $50 on top of the $154 for the Leopold FC660M ..Adding custom fee and tax the total came well over €200..
For that $$ i could have gotten a Leopold Topre switches from Ebay.. So be careful with that Qtang guy...

Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: joric on Fri, 18 March 2016, 12:48:12
The black front printed set is back on sale (was out of stock for about an year) http://www.ebay.com/itm/272166685744
Does it have a non-windowed and non-stepped capslock btw? Does it have non-windowed scrolllock and numlock as well?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: oscillik on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:39:33
The black front printed set is back on sale (was out of stock for about an year) http://www.ebay.com/itm/272166685744
Does it have a non-windowed and non-stepped capslock btw? Does it have non-windowed scrolllock and numlock as well?

unless it's been changed (and I doubt it has) nope, they're windowed only.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: steelcity on Fri, 18 March 2016, 23:08:31
hate to bring up an old thread, but does anyone know if the FC900s with Navy Front Print caps being sold at MK are pad printed or laser engraved?  The caps and boards being sold by widebasket say laser engraved, but the MK listing says pad printed.  I can't really tell from the ones I have from MK.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: shoehornhands on Sat, 19 March 2016, 16:49:43
If anybody is interested, the seller has quite a few of the Leopold keycap sets back up.

BLACK - SIDE PRINT:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272166685744

WHITE - TOP PRINT:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271910439599

WHITE - SIDE PRINT:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272166676378

NAVY - SIDE PRINT:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281963267732

NAVY - BLANK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281664522419

GREY / BLUE - TOP PRINT:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281936489670

GREY / BLUE - BLANK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272119853961
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: qwack on Sat, 19 March 2016, 17:02:05
That's great! I thought the black sets would never come back in stock again, that took ages. Those PBT caps really are superb, better than Gaterons, the only downside being that there are not as many extra keys for nonstandard layouts.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: steelcity on Sat, 19 March 2016, 21:39:44
yeah, these are really great caps.  with the price of a FC900 board at MK only $119 that really makes these boards a steal!  I already bought 4 of them and I am planning on swapping the switches out with Zealios.

I really just wish I knew if the ones I have are actually pad printed like it says on the MK website, or if they are laser printed like the boards and caps sold on ebay by widebasket say.  they are all front printed navy pbt.  is it really possible that the ones sold by mk are pad printed?
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: joric on Fri, 25 March 2016, 04:53:23
Just got this set (black, side-printed). There are non-windowed CapsLock (stepped even) and Insert is both non-windowed and windowed (probably will go for Varmilo), but it still kind of sucks because SCROLL-LOCK IS WINDOWED ONLY. So those who are too weak to ignore that window on non-backlighted keyboards should better get another set. NUM-LOCK IS WINDOWED TOO but it only matters for fullsize keyboards.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: frizzr on Mon, 27 June 2016, 15:14:37
These look amazingly like these Ducky keycaps here:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1806 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1806)

Do you think they are the same base manufacturer even though they are branded differently? They are the same price on eBay and Mechanical Keyboards after shipping, but I'm sure I would get the latter much faster...
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 27 June 2016, 15:18:03
These look amazingly like these Ducky keycaps here:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1806 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1806)

Do you think they are the same base manufacturer even though they are branded differently? They are the same price on eBay and Mechanical Keyboards after shipping, but I'm sure I would get the latter much faster...

The font on the leopold caps is completely different. And the leopold caps are their own profile very similar to cherry profile.

 Ducky caps are usually OEM profile but I can't tell from the info on the page you linked.
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: frizzr on Mon, 27 June 2016, 15:21:19
Good to know. I may go for them on eBay then and endure the wait. :) Thanks!
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 27 June 2016, 15:41:54
Good to know. I may go for them on eBay then and endure the wait. :) Thanks!

You could also buy a leopold keyboard form www.mechanicalkeyboards.com that comes with them :D
Title: Re: [ebay] Fullset Leopold "Navy", Black, White 1.5mm thick PBT Keycaps
Post by: MJL on Mon, 17 October 2016, 04:12:29
Not a great find but a couple of sets are available on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Geek-Compact-Keyboard-Keycap-104-Set-PBT-Dye-Sublimation-Cherry-MX-Leopold-Beige-/282140874719?hash=item41b0e817df, also in all gray. Pricey though.....